Benn Beckman HATED Ace... Kinda (New Info) - One Piece Discussion | B.D.A Law

Vol 2 of the Ace Novel is out and there was an interesting conversation involving Shanks and Benn Beckman. He had some very interesting things to say about Ace and his decisions...
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[@red6093]

I think it's fair to say that Benn Beckman comes off as a guy that doesn't pull any punches when giving his opinion. It's easy for us to view Ace in this super positive light, because, through Luffy's conception of him, Ace is a big brother, a natural leader, and an amazing human with limitless potential. Luffy looked up to Ace, as the flashbacks showed us. To him, he seemed infallible. In the eyes of a realist, and a well-traveled experienced pirate, however, Ace was a mess. He lived a very reckless life without much purpose in it beyond deeply desiring to find a place where he belonged. Which he didn't really find until he met Whitebeard. Some people might be put off by Beckman's observation, but I see it as great writing.

[@ohmangoddamn1986]

In the end, Ace is just like Whitebeard. A great human being. While Luffy is just like Roger. A great pirate. One pair was directionless, extremely caring, and desired a family more than anything. The other was obsessed with one goal of being the Pirate King.

[@rishabhanand4973]

@@ohmangoddamn1986 actually, roger's goal was just to turn the world on it's head. when roger started his journey, I'm pretty sure the concept of pirate king was not a thing, nor was the one piece. roger made both those things. i think he just wanted to make a mark on the world, then happened upon a poneglyph, found out he could "hear" what was on it.

[@notorioushkm97]

Ayoo Oda wasn't lying when he said Ben Beckmann had the highest IQ in the East Blue. He pulled a Sherlock Holmes on freaking Ace

[@UnexpectedWonder]

Exactly!!! 😁😁😊😊

[@FireAngelChris]

He very intelligent

[@sakar6996]

Oda said that he was most intelligent character introduced in East Blue Saga. He isn't the most intelligent in East Blue.

[@bartroger7734]

@Wanji spoiler warning ⚠️ sanji during the war against kaido : *sees a lady bathing*. Sanji: adios bitchz im out of here. Sanji and logic are 2 things that cannot live in one box🥴👍

[@OfficialEdwardNewgate]

@Wanji stop trolling

[@JYGtube]

It’s funny that Beckman mentioned it’s like he’s trying to be a gladiator because when we first see Sabo, it’s during those gladiator esque battles in the colosseum, he’s fighting for Ace’s fruit and is also part of the revolutionaries.

[@akaksjskk3775]

ooh shit

[@ajc090]

Honestly what Ben said was valid and shows his intelligence as well as the respect shanks has for Ben seeking his wisdom, also to top it off ace’s devil fruit eventually ended up with the revolutionaries

[@Blvck_Meijin]

That’s perception for that ass so he eventually went to revolutionaries

[@asoiaf.got.3048]

What he said was stupid he said that ace doesnt want to protect the common people so he should be a revolutionary that doesnt make sense at all

[@conanarthur4358]

Aside of not making any sense in insight, everything Beckman says here speaks bad writing. He said Ace destroying the world order including the 4 emperors isn't pirate like... Okay, so Luffy isn't a pirate if I get it well, because destroying the etablishment is part of his goal to become the PK. By the way, who the hell is Beckman to define the pirate's life ? Roger and Whitebeard had a totally different goal and a totally different view of the pirate's life. It didn't prevent them from achieving what they did. Ace's mouth back then was closer to Roger (putting the world upside down) while his heart was closer to Whitebeard (a place to belong). The rest about his limitation is the kind poor so-called forshadowing you expect in these kind of badly written prequel. (Kid will be a mere fleet captain). History gives him reason since his character is actually written in insight to look clever -- while it's actually stupid because nothing led to such conclusion. I would have loved him to meet a young Whitebeard to laugh.

[@Teddy_Gautier]

What??! Ok after watching this, I gotta say, Ben Beckman is amazing. He encapsulated everything I’ve ever thought about Ace, but couldn’t necessarily phrase accurately. To my fellow Hunter x Hunter fans, remember Hisoka vs Castro. The reason Castro lost was because he didn’t focus in his area of expertise. I feel like the same applies to Ace here. In terms of what made him happy, he found everything he had ever wanted in Whitebeard and his crew. As far as his dreams and ambitions go, he never bothered to seek what it was he was meant for in this world. Essentially, he settled for operating under Whitebeard Ace was a good pirate. I don’t think Ben Beckman disagreed that Ace was a good pirate. However, because of where his mindset was at, he was limited to one ship. The real question is, was Ace happy with chasing greatness or chasing happiness? For Ace, it was acceptance and happiness, and there is nothing wrong with that. I think Benny was 100% spot on in his assessment. If you ask me personally, Ace was never destined to be a pirate because of who he was as an individual. He used piracy as a means to gain purpose in life, which is something that applies to a lot of us in real life, but ultimately that wasn’t the road for him to maximize his potential, just like Castro. Sorry for the long comment. I kinda got passionate about this.

[@ohmangoddamn1986]

Bingo. Ace was a near perfect human. However, he was not a near perfect pirate like Luffy is. Luffy is the perfect fit for the pirate king. However, Luffy is not nearly as moral or justice seeking as Ace. Ace wanted to be a pirate for the namesake of it alone. And in the end, it was his own downfall. He attacked Blackbeard why? To avenge a fallen comrade. He attacked Akainu why? To protect the name of Whitebeard. He died how? Saving his little brother. Ace is a hothead version of simply a great human being. Hes TOO caring to be pirate king, simply put. His want in life (eventually) was to have companions and family. And guess who that mirrors? Whitebeard. While Luffy mirrors Gold Roger. the perfect human vs the perfect pirate.

[@JYGtube]

@@ohmangoddamn1986 Tbh like Beckman said, all of those qualities you listed, it would have made sense for him to just join the revolutionaries. But tbh that’s probably why Oda made Sabo join and get his fruit too.

[@vincelarkin3548]

@@ohmangoddamn1986 the irony of it all? Garp was right. Ace would’ve made a great marine

[@tresnonugroho6397]

I like discussion like this. Whether we disagree each other or even if we're all wrong, but it's really, really nice to have something worthy of reading. Not people spouting nonsense for trying so hard to be funny, or get Likes or getting pinned. **smh**

[@Teddy_Gautier]

@@tresnonugroho6397 of course. I wish more people were down for discussions like this, rather than seeking attention all the time. I guess we need a little bit of everything? Lol

[@shainiecemccarty9645]

Whoa Mr.Beckman is extremely perceptive.. his observation haki is crazy bro he read ace to a T..

[@conanarthur4358]

More like Beckman's writer is provided with info to make him look good. None of his reasoning makes any sense for him to reach that conclusion.

[@shainiecemccarty9645]

Brago u gotta chill with all this heat bro my KZbin account is melting lol

[@bdalaw]

🔥

[@A-Ylover0FtheLordJesus]

Bro that’s cheesy

[@shainiecemccarty9645]

@@A-Ylover0FtheLordJesus and you are u hater 👍🏾👍🏾

[@LocallyConstantDuck]

That entire sequence with Shanks and Ace is super interesting. Highly recommend you read it yourself. I got the impression Ben doesn’t like how directionless he is. Ace pre-WB is kind of a sociopath, and given how intentional the Red Hair pirates are it makes sense Ben wouldn’t like him.

[@UnexpectedWonder]

Truly.

[@Lakersfansince95]

Where can I read this novel? Seems very interesting

[@theboujeeman867]

I don't think Ben had any emotions attached to his comments he was highly perceptive so he doesn't need to not like ace to be honest

[@Electric.Lightning]

Nah you guys just through around the word sociopath alot

[@musicf3b]

He was right when he met Ace, but Ace found his goal: making Whitebeard king. He learned to put someone over his own glory

[@thesniperhendogxxx2271]

No Ace was gonna be king and White beard was going to help him

[@TheWillszy]

@@thesniperhendogxxx2271 That is what Whitebeard wanted. Ace wanted the opposite.

[@errdaykam4662]

But whitebeard never wanted to be king of the pirates. If so he could have after roger fell, that’s generally accepted. Ultimately that’s what’s sad tho. R.I.P Ace

[@asmmahfuz8569]

Ben beckmenn is obviously wrong. Because his comment about ace in 2.30-3.30 is literally what luffy is except luffy wants to be the pirate king (ace also wanted to be the pirate king until he met whitebeard, didn't he?). Luffy is doing what ace wanted to do. He already destroyed warlord system, the yonko system is in the process and the WG will be destroyed by him in future. Yes, luffy wants to be the pirate king, but even that is different that what everyone else thinks about pirate king. To luffy, being the pirate king means being the free-est pirate on the sea. I don't think any other supernova think this way. So, according to ben beckmenn, luffy isn't a true pirate and only will be a captain of a single ship. This is true but ben is being extremely narrow minded here and it doesn't math up his high IQ. Because roger was the captain of only one ship and afawk, shank is also captain of only one ship. LOL. Or does he think that being secretly allied with the WG like his captain did, makes a person a true pirate?

[@JRRadee]

But deep down He knew WB was at death's door

[@isaiahdavis9653]

Ironic that he thought ace would’ve been good in the revolutionary and now Sabo has aces devil fruit in the revolutionary.

[@mstr293]

Shanks during Marineford War: I can see Marineford from here, I think I see Luffy releasing Ace. We should help ou... Ben Bekham: No need to rush! Let's wait a few more minutes.

[@jenothemississippianofmand5202]

I think everyone is ignoring the fact that benn beckman a yonko crewmate implying that the world government and yonko are more intertwined than just being an opposing force.

[@trevon444]

Every time I see bennies name I say it in kizarus voice

[@sv4647]

Without, ever completely closing your mouth

[@leosmith3519]

Every time!!!!!

[@unknownvariable9239]

Benuuu Beckuumannnn

[@shainiecemccarty9645]

Hearing Mr Beckman talk about ace Like that hits.. especially since he follow shanks who followed roger..it just shows how the son ace can grow up and be soooooo different from his father roger.

[@mamboking0134]

I, personally, found Beckman's comments about the Revolutionaries more interesting.

[@minatodroger7890]

Well they are terroist to be fair.

[@stretch3472]

It's really nice to hear that you're an Ace fan like me, because a lot of ppl usually slander his name.

[@ProdigalSonAD70]

It is easier to criticize and breakdown the spirit of others but to know yourself takes perhaps maybe a lifetime!

[@gurumasteryang8732]

As a older brother living in my dads shadow I really get why ace did what he did

[@BiBi-mc9dj]

Damn yo dad is the King of the pirates !!!??;P

[@gurumasteryang8732]

@@BiBi-mc9dj 😭😭😭 yes in a sense

[@bigdaddyb1837]

Itachi is better

[@burngrace5205]

Who’s your dad

[@bigdaddyb1837]

@@burngrace5205 Kishimoto

[@kazemizu]

Benn Beckman's description of Ace was a bit smiliar to Roger. Roger was someone who wanted to turn the world on its head. Their motivations were probably different though.

[@ajaystephen869]

Ace meet Benn Beckman before he met Whitebeard. His character grew after he mets his pops soo Benn wasnt wrong. Ace changed with a matured mentor 🧡

[@ncloud1]

Everything was good with whitebeard then Blackbeard killed Thatch and Ace wanted to punish him.

[@cacadordevacilao6788]

Ace it's such a good character with so little scenes, like shanks

[@Nubin2000]

Sabo who inherited Ace's will is a Revolutionary. If something happens to Dragon during the Great War then he will be the one to bring down the World government order along with Luffy destroying the Yonko order as Pirate King. Both Luffy and Sabo will fulfill Ace's dreams and goals, they both inherited Ace's will and carry his legacy into the future through different means.

[@kugansivasakthy2091]

If Beckmann can drop wisdom like that on someone like Ace imagine if he switched to roasting people in the OP verse.....😓😂 I gotta say it was a nice perspective you gave on Ace to incorporate his flaws but also his values (not running away, protecting people,acceptance,etc.) Good job with the vid Brago 🙏

[@mrs.j9116]

Lol, we need a Beckman commentary of all One Piece episodes/chapters.

[@susmitislam1910]

The problem with Beckman's analysis is that the reason he placed Ace within the revolutionaries, is the same reason he wanted to be a pirate. He wanted his name to be not associated with anyone or thing other than himself. He couldn't have done that if he'd joined someone else. Think of it as in the business world. Being an entrepreneur is the only way to make yourself renowned for nothing but your own empire. Joining as an employee and working up the corporate ladder to become the CEO of say, Microsoft, makes you renowned not for your empire, but for someone else's. Joining the revolutionary army would NOT allow Ace to achieve his goal at that time, which was to make the entire world acknowledge him for his own feats, rather than for being the son of Roger or something. This, by the way, is a strong parallel between Ace and Zoro that I don't see explored that much. Both were/are men of incredible ambition and potential, and indeed could have become emperors of the sea in their own rights. But instead they, at some point down the line, made the choice of sacrificing their dreams for someone else's, when they had to pick one of the two.

[@TheHopeIs]

I think it’s an interesting outlook on Ace as flawed character. You are right he was both right and wrong about Ace. He carried such a heavy burden that he never realized until the bitter end just how loved he really was. Whitebeard was such an impact on him I think if he didn’t feel indebted to the man he may not have tried so hard to get back at Blackbeard. Perhaps if Ace never knew who his father was until he was older he may have turned out different. Something to add is that if Sabo hadn’t “died” Ace personality may have been more brash then it was because he purposely took those lessons from Makino because he was too harsh on Luffy and realized he had to do better. Ace wanted to be free of his father’s name but also wanted to be have that fatherly love he was deprived of. Such a tragic character honestly and one that is very relatable. It would have been interesting to see what kind of character he would have been if he had lived and gotten passed his issues with his father. It may have been good for him to have actually sat down with someone like Rayleigh even if he still hated his father afterwards at least he would have known how the man really was. I think fanfic does a good job exploring a what if situation though. It’s so also sad that he never knew Sabo lived before he died.

[@ohmangoddamn1986]

Yup. Its interesting. Ace is certainly flawed, but Ace is the closest thing in One Piece to the perfect HUMAN. However, he just wasnt the perfect PIRATE. His desire for family ended up being stronger than any of his pirate goals despite his raw strength and potential. And thats perfectly fine because that directly mirrors Whitebeard, who we know did not care about the One Piece and was content just having his family.

[@MisterPrince01]

Man Benn was right, that man really is intelligent.

[@davidbowen9596]

I think Benn was dead on in his assessment. The only thing I would question is the part about Ace never being more than a captain of a single ship. I feel like Whtiebeard was the father figure Ace needed to get over his feelings about Gol D Rogers. Plus Whitebeard was grooming Ace to take over someday, which shows that Ace was maturing.

[@gojumjilen1396]

Well that's true he was never more than a captain of single ship

[@sia5926]

He was right at the first because before Ace meet WB he really was searching for death in some way. He was in hurry. But when he found WB and find all this love he changed. And in the end there was a lot of people who wanted to save him and WB wanted to make him a Pirate King what's means that he saw that Ace changed himself

[@youtubealias_yeah3541]

"from the outside looking in, you're spot on. From the inside looking out.... You have no idea" 💯💯💯

[@shainiecemccarty9645]

Benn Beckman is the ultimate right hand..he just seems like he been around might have been apart of other crews before shanks

[@UnexpectedWonder]

Exactly! 😁😁😊😊

[@FireAngelChris]

He gives off that vibe and is older than his captain.

[@rishabhanand4973]

@@FireAngelChris he is older. shanks is either 39 or 40, ben beckman is 50

[@FireAngelChris]

@@rishabhanand4973 lol it’s a typo meant to say he is older than his captain. Shanks is 39 and he is 50.

[@rishabhanand4973]

@@FireAngelChris oh my bad

[@UnexpectedWonder]

Naw...First Mate Benn Beckman was right on the Money and showed his Wisdom, Experience, and Intelligence. Ace's actions proved that he was right. Sabo is also a Revolutionary. 😏😏😎😎

[@FireAngelChris]

Wonder this old news,I gave y’all these novels awhile back 🤣🤣🤣

[@aysitalownatlanch1052]

nah, sabo became revolutionary cause he has amnesia and the revolutionary adopted him. Before the accident he wants to be a pirate, he might change his mind even if he didn't have an accident but he definitely wanted to be a pirate first

[@MisterPrince01]

Exactly

[@akin242002]

But Sabo was always the smart one as kids.

[@UnexpectedWonder]

@@aysitalownatlanch1052 He didn't know anything other than being a Pirate...

[@FullRamenAlch3mist]

It shows growth more than anything. As that was how Ace was when he met with Shanks, prior to joining WB.

[@Scionofgreyhaven]

I want to see this type of story more in the manga, Ace still plays a pivotal role to this day and that is an interesting observation by Benn Beckmann, kinda ironic with Ace and Luffy, also the gladiator thing reminds me of when Doffy called Luffy out for having Hero syndrome

[@cosmicklutz1675]

Ace really did fall in love with whitebeard, he admired him as a truly great pirate and was able to experience what it was like having a father. For the time ace spent on WB's crew he really didn't grow up, he was living the childhood that Roger denied him. No wonder he wouldn't let Akainu talk down to WB. In hindsight you really feel for ace as Akainu knew exactly what he needed to say to get under his skin.

[@blackbladeszoro2984]

Bro I wouldnt be surprised if it was Benn Beckmann who taught Kidd a lesson and took his arm 😂

[@whatt57]

Hahaha. It could be something like: Shanks: Oh...another red haired guy...he could be interesting. What do you think Ben? Benn Beckmann: Meh....needs work (Takes arm) Now go out there and be somebody!

[@somedrunkjunkie1748]

So WB knew that ACE was in a hurry to die, he knew he needed directions, so he became his daddy.

[@whatt57]

Exactly!

[@LocallyConstantDuck]

I think Ben’s quote highlights the different between a conqueror and a leader. With CoC Haki it’s easy to confuse the two. Young Ace just wants to destroy everything, and he has no plans about how to deal with the fallout. This is exactly the type of thinking Shanks tries to steer Luffy away from. Ben saying he won’t ever be the captain of anything more than 1 ship is a pretty damning indictment of Ace at this point. Something he outgrows after meeting WB

[@UnexpectedWonder]

Truly!

[@mrgoldyblocks7935]

He never became a captain

[@UnexpectedWonder]

@@mrgoldyblocks7935 He was though.

[@taylork1922]

What makes Ace so tragic is the fact he doesn’t get to realize this and he doesn’t get a second chance, Ace could have been great once he overcame himself but never did

[@sia5926]

I think he overcome himself when he said "I want to live" but it was only few moments before his death(

[@siddhantjain2402]

I think Benn Beckmann was right, and we are missing out on a crucial point. What is the difference between a Pirate and a Revolutionary? In my opinion, and correct me if I am wrong, a Revolutionary has a purpose of bringing down the Celestial Dragons and consequently changing the world order. While a Pirate's main drive is to "gain" something, whether it is Power, Freedom, Money or whatever. Pirates takes. If you think about it, what Benn Beckmann said may sound harsh, but could be interpreted as that Ace might have reached the full scale of his caliber in the Rev Army but he limited himself as a Pirate because his aims and his profession does not coincide (unless you are a Straw Hat and you have plot armor).

[@D-Johnson2001]

Facts

[@kenyattafrazier]

I think we need to be asking what this tells about Shanks as well. You get a taste of what Benn Beckmann views as the criteria for being a pirate, and here he is following Shanks. What does this mean for Shanks? Based on what he said it seems Shanks isn’t going after the celestial dragons, because like Beckmann said, why not join the revolutionary army? Pirate King possibly? Not enough to say for sure, but I believe there’s enough here to ignite another discussion about what Shanks’ goals may be.

[@rupertgordonii6623]

Exactly, I was kind of thinking the same

[@xxQrchinaxx]

Remember that one time at Marineford when Ace got freed and was about to esacpe and then easily got triggered by Akainus words and basiclly threw away all the effort from everyone that helped him to get free? Not very bright... That moment really pissed me off cause i love Ace Beckman was on point

[@mimzymo2024]

yea he easily one of the most annoying one piece characters imo ....his stupidity led to the fall of whitebeard and rise of blackbeard..

[@Lil_lulu_heartfilia]

I can see your point but honestly Ace never runs away like his father in that sense. Also Ace had a very complicated childhood and he was very desperate to save Luffy of course that was due to his own actions but I probably would've acted on my emotions if someone talked bad about the person I consider to be a father.

[@gojumjilen1396]

@@Lil_lulu_heartfilia save Luffy shit if he didn't went back to fight then Luffy wouldn't have been in that position also let's say and everyone escape like plan and ace fights Akainu will you think he will win

[@Lil_lulu_heartfilia]

@@gojumjilen1396 Well in anime character's do that shit all the time. Don't know why your getting so heated bro. And Ace was trying to protect Luffy and thanks to Ace dying, Luffy realized he needed to train to get stronger. Simple as that. I just clearly wish Ace lived plain and simple.

[@ayeekoolaid520]

@@Lil_lulu_heartfilia true but only difference is roger had the power to back it up

[@ArthurPrince03]

what if the one piece turns out to be an eye patch

[@ehsanrahee7411]

His whole concept of Ace having the temperament (for lack of a better word) for being a revolutionary yet choosing piracy makes me think about the parallels with Shanks. Maybe he's trying to do the same?

[@WolfX48]

Not sure how you determine a true pirate in One piece, however Ben was right about Ace on most points. Not all but most. Ace character is someone that didn't managed to realize his true potential, he died way before his time unfortunately. He was strong, smart and courageous but also naive, hot-headed and clouded in his decision. The moment he decided to go after Blackbeard himself kind of sealed his fate. I know this hurts slightly but its the truth, I do feel that when Ace join the Whitebeard pirates. His had finally chose his path and its was the best decision he ever made in his life. If Ace had made it pass the time skip, he would have been even more impressive.

[@WolfX48]

@Zero Gravity ?? I am sorry I think you misread my comment. I said above (Benn was right about Ace on most points. Not all but most). As for the wrong parts, I belief BDA explained well what Benn was not right about. But simply putting, Benn had his own idea of what would make a good or true pirate in his word. His thinking of Ace is slightly narrow minded abit. Now Ben got a lot right just by observing Ace during their meeting, which show he is very intelligent. But he did not know Ace truly, which means there were qualities of Ace he wasn't aware of.

[@eustasszay608]

Reads Title: Me: What?

[@ralph39er73]

😂😂 deadass

[@unknownvariable9239]

Nani?!

[@sniperqueen1681]

You can tell how much Brago loves Ace by how he talks about Aces character. It’s beautiful lol 💓

[@KingJinzo2125]

I swear I can’t be the only one who has to replay the intro more than once

[@bdalaw]

Same bro

[@avenue.central]

It always made me wonder how he'd would've turned out had he met Rayleigh along the way

[@RyogaEchizen]

Ace should be more like Dragon while Luffy is trying to be the next Roger... nice

[@SonnyChenova]

Here's a thought: Everyone is Talking About Black Blades. But, can an extremely strong Gunslinger i.e. Yasopp, Benn Beckman, maybe also Shanks (as seen on Pirate Warrior Games) and maybe Izo can turn their pistols into "Black Guns"?

[@vikaskyatannawar8417]

no they need to do that to bullets

[@BlackSmokeDMax]

Maybe, but it doesn't seem likely the bullets would be black bullets. They don't spend enough time being used like a sword, or the gun itself. Certainly they could be haki infused bullets though, similar to the warriors of Amazon Lily.

[@faresbouaziz9292]

there is already some special kind of bullet ( like those doffy used against law , n i guess they use them since kizaru was tryin to " avoid " being shoot by one :v

[@taimoorshah8230]

When ace left the village he had no vision. He just left to become something who he wasn't. Ben Beckman was right. But along the way whwn he met whitebeard he learned that he had no aim no vision, he was just wondering. Whitebeard gave him a cause, a reason to be alive. Ace had a very strong but strange character. That is why I guess oda had to kill him. Otherwise in the future he would had to clash with luffy and shanks. He was a broken character only because of his bloodline.

[@angushorton7498]

Ace's character before and after his adoption by Whitebeard is like night and day

[@Coffee2024.]

After Wano expect: Luffy vs Shanks, Zoro vs Mihawk, Sanji vs Beckman, Jinbei vs Roo, Usopp vs Yasopp

[@ericeroles9285]

This convinced me that I need to read the Ace Novels.

[@blakeisaac7895]

He was directionless and fatherless in a sense. When he met Whitebeard he found what he thought he never needed, a father, who gave him direction and love. It makes his death more impactful, he couldn't bear hearing anyone speak ill of the man who gave him everything. Beckman was right in many ways, but he was just a man critiquing from the sidelines. Whitebeard was the man willing to shape Ace's potential.

[@SnowyWolborg]

That's exactly what it was! As another commenter said, it's easy to see Ace in a positive light because we look at him from Luffy's lens. But Beckmann didn't have that bias. He correctly pointed in that Ace has a lot of potential. But, he was stuck at "good" and wouldn't ever reachthe pint of "great" because he was running around with a hollow goal.

[@aikawarazuchan5947]

I knew going into things that Ace had... An expiration date. But I never expected to fall in love with this character the way I have. My big brother died when I was 17, you could say at the neglect of the government, others say it was his own arrogance. I reacted exactly the same way Luffy did... But it took me years to come to terms with it. I wish I'd had a Jinbe to slap me around a bit sooner. And I have dealt with plenty of Ben Beckmann's with choice words to say about him and what he 'could have been'. I guess my point is that Oda wrote a character that feels so undeniably human... Because we're all flawed.

[@chancebaraks741]

Another fire video my man your grind is impeccable.

[@lillydee5978]

No where in those statements did Beckman say he Hated Ace ffs! He just pointed out that Ace's goals (at that time) would have been better served in the Revolution Army. You can say the exact same thing about Law. Law has no interest in being Pirate King, he wants to take down the world government, it's no wonder he teamed up with Luffy who declared war on the WG.

[@timothypolanco8622]

This is one of the best ace videos I've seen in a long time 🔥💯

[@ivanborong8374]

I agree wholeheartedly with this video 👏🏾 Beckman was right about Ace but also wrong at the same time and I can respect that fr

[@professionalEdater]

This shows how Ben Beckmann he is probably one of the most smartest people in OP

[@thechablo4301]

Ace is a great character. Thank you for the analysis!

[@ArtofGuilt]

Beckman has crazy perception haki. This is why kizaru considered him a threat. He knows where he would be shooting at before kizaru would be there. Its possible he even knew what shanks saw in luffy and maybe where everything will end up. With ace i think he was aware of the dead end for ace and as the second of shanks, confirmed shanks fear with teach. The irony is if beckman somehow pointed him towards the revolutionary army he would find find sabo. If his perception haki was so strong this could also imply where ace could have gone to fulfill his needs or why beckman thought as much.

[@courtz266]

That makes sense

[@marcosmendez8805]

I always thought that black beard was a true pirate compare to anyone else. He’s living the dream, taking over showing no mercy. He does whatever it takes to get to the top. If you ever wonder how a pirate would be like and you would see black beard you’ll probably be like “oh wow that’s a true pirate”

[@JR-ct6wi]

1:59 so we not gonna talk about Shanks having his left arm

[@Greatsharkbite]

He piccolo'd.

[@bdalaw]

His true form

[@bigdaddyb1837]

He's had plastic surgery in past

[@darkkingsilversrayleigh8203]

For anyone who doesn’t know, it was an animation error

[@bigdaddyb1837]

@@darkkingsilversrayleigh8203 did animators told you ?

[@jhherkert]

Teach and his interactions with Ace & Thatch were the hidden gems of the Ace novels

[@MattJDylan]

It doesn't bother me, because ben beckmann was right: by thay point, ace had no clear objective, just a rough idea of what he wanted. He was searching for his place in the world, just like luffy, but knowledge was a burden to him, unlike luffy. Which brings me to parallel we can make with another character: Do Flamingo. They both wanted to burn the world, while also secretly searching for their place in it. Doffy was burdened by even more knowledge by ace, and that's a key factor in the development of their characters. By the initial point of their career, with their crew there was a "blind leading the blind" type of situation: they both were blinded by hate and didn't knew exactly what they wanted to do, other than just pay back the hate they received for no apparent (to them) reason. But while ace had luffy, sabo, garp, dadan and the bandits to care for him, doffy had a crew only fueling his "fire". And then it comes whitebeard, the one showing there's love in this world other than just hate. Although he was his rival, he showed no sign of hate for roger: I think that was also a turning point for ace, not so much about accepting roger but rather by witnessing there's a way to fight without being guided only by hate. Do flamingo didn't had a figure like that, his crew let him had his way in his boss game as a kid, so he never found his way. He returned to dressrosa and put up all that facade only to make people accept and love him, but ultimately mistaking his way through it, just how ace was using the wrong way to make people accept and value him for who he was, rather than being "the son of someone": in the end his way was indeed to be the son of someone, one of the sons of WB.

[@LeftEyeGod]

Can’t wait for luffy to try and recruit Ben beckman

[@Electric.Lightning]

No the fuck he wont

[@sia5926]

There will be volume 3 of this novel??

[@cacadordevacilao6788]

Ace revolutionary could be so cool

[@kingdavis9240]

So do I mister Beckman, So do I

[@alwaysalem]

How can u hate ace

[@kettlepotcorporations3891]

@@alwaysalem Akainu is hotter

[@kevol9843]

@@kettlepotcorporations3891 if you know what I mean 😉

[@10bayekofsiwa15]

Yesssir broo

[@9Zzz16]

@@alwaysalem how can you not hate Ace?... because of his stupidity he went after Blackbeard after Pops told him not too. Then he gets himself captured... his friends and family go through troubles to save him. Oars dies, Jozu gets his arm cut off. Then instead of running away he gets himself killed. He just spit in everyones faces; those who risked their lives to save him.

[@GrayComics]

Do you think Ace and Sabo are like two sides of a coin then? One following the path best suited and the other not knowing where to go. Both failing, but Luffy succeeds because he defies expectations?

[@anshgawai]

Ben was right about ace not knowing his place, the end goal in his life was to know whether it was good that he was born, that he himself could make a difference and not be judged by his heritage, so ben was not correct about him being like a revolutionary, he didnt want to bring the world into chaos, defeating pops was just a challenge for himself, not an end goal, just like how luffy talks about beating all 4 yonkos, but all in all, I have to ask did ace find his truth before dying?? I think it took the war of the best to make ace realise that there are people that will fight the whole world just so that he could live, it's a shame that he couldn't cherish it for long

[@shriramthakare2]

Look at the wanted poster 2:14

[@laolu6973]

Inspire of him(ace) not having a concrete goal and being all over the place........he was still a lovable character to watch

[@capitanspoiler7393]

Well, there is another way to look at this, Benn Beckman met Ace when he wasn't part of Whitebeard's crew yet, in that early stage Ace was, indeed, nothing. he didn't have a real dream until he met Whitebeard and vowed to make him the king. so, when he first met Shanks' crew, he indeed was NOT a real pirate since he lacked the ambition of one

[@uncoolkeanu5207]

The title got me so confused

[@Meshifuari]

@Tyriek Craddock Wdym? His description is spot on.

[@Meshifuari]

@Tyriek Craddock He didnt knew the reason why Ace was acting the way he did, that's true. But that literally doesnt change anything. Hell if he knew his reasoning he could dislike him even more for all we know . For Whitebeard it was not a big deal. For someone like Benn or Shanks ... It could be even a bigger sign of stupidity... "So you want to do All of that... Because you have daddy isues?"

[@Meshifuari]

@Tyriek Craddock Even with the right Guidance from Wb and his entire crew Ace was doing his own thing. He didnt listen to Wb when it mattered. Brago mentioned in the video how one of his friends told him that ACE HAS NOT MATURED at all since the time he was a child. And he himself as Ace fan agrees with it. The thing is ACE had a proper Guidance from several people before... Makino, Dadan, Garp to extend, even some of his spade pirates and of course Whitebeard. The problem with Ace is that he wouldnt listen to anyone. He always was giving it to his anger which is even clear in Ace's novel. How long would we had to Wait for him to mature? As Benn has stated He Had No Potential, he wouldnt have MATURED. He wouldnt have become a Yonko, no matter how much time you would give him, he would eventually fall.

[@Meshifuari]

@Tyriek Craddock The thing is I agree that he would have a lot of potential if he were to get rid out of his anger but the main point is that he would never get rid of it. No matter what would have happened. Benn literally predicts it with the whole "zero potential" quote.

[@loicrutabana1884]

Whitebeard is the only one who 'lost' to Roger but still Respected and Accepted Ace

[@Greatsharkbite]

Also super huge contrast here..in chapter 1 of the manga, Ben Beckmann flat out says "That kids going to be big" referring to Luffy. Insane..

[@JmirePhysX]

Ben wasn't wrong. If you think about it Ace was reborn as a revolutionary through Sabo, who now holds his fruit.

[@Izziy]

I feel as the the analysis is right even to end of his life. Yes Ace found a “purpose” making white beard king of the pirate. But at the end of the day he died because of his naivety. Instead of being focused and focus escape he instead got killed without achieving the new goal he set for himself. He just a kid right till the end.

[@mattbinkowski2095]

True he makes alot of dumb decisions and I suspect we will learn more in wano. Luffy is similar but he has the will to push through and found strong allies to help while it seems like ace spent more time on his own.

[@Adimas0]

I love your videos bro. I would save some of your new videos to listen to in my car on the way back home from an early morning gym session and just cruise home with the window down and listen to your smooth voice

[@Good-advocate]

Nice to hear your audio was volumed up!

[@yudodis333]

Damn... been saying this for years and Benn Beckman confirms it.... Ace's death was not Luffy's failure, it was Ace's... Luffy succeeded, he freed Ace and they woulda escaped if Ace didn't give into Akainu's taunts...

[@artbunker]

Ace hadn't met Whitebeard at that point. Hee had no family to defend or fight for.

[@justinalexander1056]

nice snapshot. everyone please get the ace light novel so much is revealed not just about him but the one piece story in general whether your an ace fan or not it is worth the buy.

[@howwii]

Great video Brago loved hearing about the new info. I can't wait to learn more about Benn Beckman.

[@Klipik12]

I think it's a cool reversal that the son of the pirate King fits best as a revolutionary and the son of the revolutionary will become the pirate King.

[@tobiaswedin]

If that quote is canon then Ben Beckman shouldn't like Luffy either; he also acts more like a Revolutionary by topple Warlords one after the other and going after the 4 Emperors. It's the exact same behaviour pattern he finds at fault with Ace. He doesn't act like a pirate at all, even less so than Ace since he doesn't kill anyone, he's actually even saving people and countries. Just like a gladiator Revolutionary. Luffy is the least piraty pirate in the four seas.

[@bigpeaness5331]

Brago going crazy with dropping all these videos. Appreciate it by liking this man videos.

[@abhisekroy7426]

Isn't taht what law wants too?? To break the wheel?? To change the world?? Maybe it's a different type of "D" which Ace-Law posses than Luffy or Kid !!

[@Greatsharkbite]

It is interesting..I assumed Ace wanted to be a better version of Roger since he hated him, but if he really hated him would he have tried to be a pirate in the first place? Also Ace seemed content to make whitebeard the king, but Ace had conqueror's haki ever since he was a kid. Is there more dimensions to this dude then we were even shown?

[@Stitchlii]

Also as a ACE fan I love this. Makes alot of sense

[@Duvy159]

I think you're sort of reaching here, it was just in conversation he gave a few points, to prove a point. I don't think he ultimately gave a complete list of complete things he would say makes a pirate. He never said anything about Blackbeard or Luffy either, he specifically said the person in front of him cares more about his own self image, than anything else. In a sense, a Pirate doesn't really have a goal to change the Government, they're very self serving power hungry people who just want to do what they want to do, not stop someone else from doing what they want to do, so Ace really was never a "Pirate" in that sense. Secondly, a Pirate is someone I don't think would limit their own choices, or think they only have one either. Doesn't sound like HATE either, just a character analysis. And lastly, it doesn't matter that Benn doesn't know why ACE makes those choices or the life he has lived, everyone has some internal reasoning, the point is that he is going to live the life he said he would.

[@BragoDAce]

Listen to yourself lol. Think about what we know about Shanks, and ask yourself does that make sense?

[@Duvy159]

@@BragoDAce Hardly anything?

[@ShiroyashaVince]

im from the future and the way u talked about ace in this vid is just 10/10 i agree on everything

[@jaydrich8115]

brago out here blessing everyone with this holiday content ✊🏿✊🏿✊🏿✊🏿🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@andresalvarado3958]

Dude, you are one of the best content creators of one piece i have seen. People may not see it but you are impartial because you love one piece. I like how you have your different points and develop them. Keep the good work

[@bigdaddyb1837]

Ok

[@HAUNTEDYETI]

awesome videos dude love your stuff, but do you have any say in what ads play during? kinda not great that you got prager u ads during your otherwise high-quality content

[@mohamedabdulkadir8539]

This is the first time replying to your videos. I love your content and analysis. You really bring a great prospective and view point. I have not read the novel. I do plan to but i have a point to raise. Benn Beckman when talking about Ace was probably in my opinion comparing Ace to Luffy. Everything he said seemed to be spot on but in contrast to Luffy, talking about the next king of the pirates potential and his brother, it brings more context to what he said. From witnessing young Luffy and his carefree Gol D Roger like attitude, he could tell Ace was limiting himself. Where his brother would do anything for the adventure, freedom and just what it truly (to Benn Beckman) means to be a pirate. Luffy as a kidd stabbed his face just because, ate a fruit just because, defended shanks just because. No logic. No reasoning, pure pirate chaos. At that moment his goal was to be a pirate, a great pirate and very free. Where Ace as you said had a goal, a purpose and so much more anguish. And a man like Beckman could see his true calling. Thats so amazing to analyse and be so spot on. I Love Benn even more for that character analysis.

[@mrsyarn9097]

I can't find the first video on the ace novels please I want the link