PLEASE NOTE: The maximum payload is not 394kg - that's the maximum gross vehicle weight, which can be used to determine the payload capacity. The luggage capacity can be found in the article at bit.ly/2018Tracer900Review Sorry for the confusion! John
@mrvwbug44236 жыл бұрын
So the max load is around 180kg, definitely not hauling luggage 2 up on it, but should be no problem for a single rider + luggage.
@zyzu29606 жыл бұрын
Looks fresh. Like the previous model, handguard is bigger. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iYnJZHidoa1qqpo
@Ohno0es6 жыл бұрын
One of the first, if not the only, reviews that actually shows the luggage from these tracers from the inside and actually explains more about it than just "there're panniers".
@siamwatchaddict90726 жыл бұрын
Just picked up my 2019 Tracer 900GT yesterday. I already own a XSR900 so comparing the tracer to the XSR. way better suspension. more comfortable riding position and and all the extra spec well worth the money.. Same engine and gear box but the Tracer seem more smooth on power delivery... I have enjoyed the XSR900 . But she is being moved on...
@stephenharriau14065 жыл бұрын
Had mine for a couple days, very impressed. It’s like a Super-Super Moto.
@JinKazama926 жыл бұрын
Still Cheaper than Honda and Kawasaki competition class. And waay cheaper than its European rivals. I'll take it.
@MianCowell6 жыл бұрын
Cheaper quality too. The oil cooler on my 2015 model rusted through before 24000 miles. £500 for a replacement, lots of other owners with the same problem.
@MrTrek1646 жыл бұрын
I personally was disappointed with the minimal upgrade to the tracer and expected more from the gt version at that price .I opted for a multistrada 950 with touring kit for the price of the tracer gt .
@rozzag736 жыл бұрын
I LOVE my 2016 Tracer. SC Project exhaust, heated grips and Q/S. All it needs is cruise control. Will wait to see the prices in OZ for the GT to see if I trade up or not......
@mohammedsheikh94793 жыл бұрын
The position of the footrest feels that it's forcing rider's to sit in a sports Bike position and the end result is neither you feel a sporty bike rider nor a touring bike rider? However over all the designing of the Bike Is phenomenal and extra ordinary beautiful. Yamaha's designers did a great job and they deserve to be appreciated for their fabulous Job. Congratulations
@sn00pgreen6 жыл бұрын
every time i look at new bikes, i go wow yeah omg, and then i really analyse everything, and end up thinking " actually i'm gonna stick to my 1999 600 fazer"
@EtienneBertou6 жыл бұрын
^ 100% what he said. Rebuilding it into a naked now, because nothing I've driven so far beats that screeching 4 cylinder 600cc. My Tracer 700 I though would do the job, but it's on the way out for missing the extreme fun factor I have with the FZS..
@zyzu29606 жыл бұрын
What is actually different from the old model? kzbin.info/www/bejne/iYnJZHidoa1qqpo
@EtienneBertou6 жыл бұрын
Quick summary of the above: Tracer 900 ('18) features 1) slightly narrower steering bars, 2) a bigger screen, 3) slightly different seating and 4) different styling. If you have a Fazer 600 from 99-03, your bike might be more awesome.
@rogermty19716 жыл бұрын
I have also have a 2007 Fazer FZ6, and I love it. A lot of fun, its only con is they do not make it anymore. I actually like that does not have a lot of torque in the low end because it makes it very easy to drive. If you want to run, rev it over 7,000 and you have a monster.
@zyzu29606 жыл бұрын
@@rogermty1971 what's your comment on engine oil 15w 50? This man shared the smoothness using this viscosity. No throttle surging in A mode, light gear shifting and able to stand to 7000 km. kzbin.info/www/bejne/amqmiaZsoZySqtk
@Renzsu6 жыл бұрын
It's a good looking bike, and I never thought I'd say that about anything based on the MT09. They sure have improved since the 2018 version.
@StaedtlerFox6 жыл бұрын
rebound of Tracer900 shock is adjustable, on the left top of shock. same as old Tracer900 :3
@jmackd16 жыл бұрын
Thinking about trading in my 2014 V-Strom on this....I like the cruise control feature....
@samiam87796 жыл бұрын
jmackd10000 Me too! You have the 650 or the 1000?
@jmackd16 жыл бұрын
i have the 1000, what do you have?
@samiam87796 жыл бұрын
jmackd10000, 2012 650. Love it! Just looking for something with a bit more oomph as well as cruise control.
@awrebyawe6 жыл бұрын
Great review. I went from a 2015 Tracer to a KTM 1190 and honestly I miss the Tracer. Considering a GT or a 2017 model and using the saved cash to upgrade to ohlins, quickshifter up down, and cruise control
@mrvwbug44236 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure once you add those aftermarket goodies, you would be spending more than a GT. Ohlins suspension alone will be several thousand. Aftermarket quick shifters are all upshift only. Electronic cruise might not be available for the 1st gen Tracer for much longer, McCruise just ended production of their unit for the 15-17 Tracer/FJ and is just selling off their remaining stock.
@awrebyawe6 жыл бұрын
mrvwbug44 fair points, I was looking at buying a second hand model though. There are no aftermarket autoblippers available? In my country the GT is about €13k and can pick up a decent 2nd hand '17 for €8-9k, that €4-5k difference would go a long way to getting it how I want. Even if I bought the GT I'd immediately spend around €1k replacing those pathetic panniers for a Givi set and topbox
@froehlcj6 жыл бұрын
2017 Tracer was already excellent, all previous issues were solved: fuelling, front forks and brakes. 2017 also has rebound adjustment on the back shock
@mrvwbug44236 жыл бұрын
It is a lot of bike for the money. The GT is STILL cheaper than even a basic Versys 1000 which is its main competitor, the Versys doesn't offer cruise control, heated grips, fully adjustable fork (Versys is preload/rebound at both ends), or a quick shifter from the factory.
@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff6 жыл бұрын
mrvwbug44 - Versys has a very high load capacity for two up touring, the reviewer doesn’t mention weight capacity just GVW (incorrectly stating this is payload). If you dig into the figures I am pretty sure the payload will be significantly less on the Yamaha. It takes nothing from the bike, I am sure they will sell piles of them but it is not in the same bracket really.
@yayoi16 жыл бұрын
Kawasaki needs to update the Versys.
@MianCowell6 жыл бұрын
They need to make a new Vtwin 1000 engine. That one dates back to the TL1000, trouble is it's almost impossible to make one emissions compliant anymore.
@smalltalk.productions99776 жыл бұрын
i believe the kawa versys lt is an inline 4 cyl. you might be referring to suzuki's v-strom 1k which is a v-twin design as was the suzuki tl1k. thumbs up.
@MianCowell6 жыл бұрын
you're absolutely right, I got them mixed up
@vincesimard7 ай бұрын
I don't get why the gt goes for double the price of the base model in the used market. I currently own an fj-09 and want to upgrade to the gt for the quickshifter and heated grips but they sell for 12-14k cad instead of 7k for the base... i'll just get a tracer 900 and add the parts separately.
@fyorbane6 жыл бұрын
I would buy a mint second hand Triumph 1050 Tiger Sport instead. Better quality of finish, more power and Torque, easily as comfortable and better looking.
@davidrespect64715 жыл бұрын
And much heavier
@pejapl134 жыл бұрын
Triumph build quality is shit sorry to say. Nothing beats Japanese bikes, Yamaha and Honda all the way
@smalltalk.productions99776 жыл бұрын
thank you for the effort and the sharing. here in the states, the fj-09 is very appealing. thumbs up.
@mickleblade6 жыл бұрын
the advice against topbox and panniers is probably paranoia about stability. They often quote 3kg limits for topbox contents, as if....
@awakenchange4 жыл бұрын
what do you mean by, "16mm narrow" "100mm narrow over all"? i have a 2016 fj 09 and my bars are too wide for me and have been looking for replacement.
@henrikforsberg6834 жыл бұрын
That didn’t really add up.. 🤔
@miker16196 жыл бұрын
Side panniers that can't hold a full face. Loading a top box is not recommended. Nice going Yamaha!
@BruceBrown19526 жыл бұрын
Michael Raj I have a 2017 FJ-09, and added Givi luggage to mine (35L side cases and 47L top box.) you are right about those OEM cases being too small. Yamaha’s legal department probably insisted on the disclaimer about using both the top box and panniers simultaneously. They did the same for my Super Tenere. I have ignored this advice and have never had an issue. As long as the boxes are not overloaded, I cannot foresee any problem.
@miker16196 жыл бұрын
Bruce Brown, those are my thoughts exactly. There shouldn't be an issue if the boxes aren't overloaded. But I honestly can't understand why Yamaha would release their OEM boxes that are a shade too small for a full face.
@yayoi16 жыл бұрын
I reckon Yamaha got it right. Slimmer side cases make lane-splitting much easier. Add a top box if you want to lock up your helmet inside luggage. Or just carry a cable lock.
@carlosandleon4 жыл бұрын
Just put a top box there anyway
@bdraidian62805 жыл бұрын
How is this bike for long distance 2up riding. As my wife will be riding with me 95% of the time
@andrewfrost84226 жыл бұрын
You mentioned Yamaha didn’t recommend using a top box with panniers, is that just a weight issue. As a non pillion biker, I’d need panniers and top box for distance touring especially as you say a crash helmet won’t fit into panniers. Good review, did think it was a bit overpriced but it’s a lot of bike.
@billhamilton75244 жыл бұрын
hard t tell but that looks like the comfort seat on 900 but not on the GT ,,,am i correct ?
@sabbage1006 жыл бұрын
My first bike 2008 fazer 600 s2, been riding it for past 9 months. Nothing to bench mark on, I like the bike, when or why do u need to upgrade? I feel I can ride my bike for next 5 years :)
@georgetech3806 жыл бұрын
I Have fjr 1300 , top box with panniers not recommended either according to yamaha the payload , driver pillion panniers top box must not exceed 203 kg (so obviously this is for big guys becuase my self, my wife,the panniers and the top box in total we where 168kg so no problems there)
@rinat24816 жыл бұрын
I try to look at these 800-1000cc bikes hoping they will be lighter but they end up being around the same weight as Super Adventure 1290S. No more thinking..
@peteranderson74876 жыл бұрын
Bugga. Bought an MT09 Tracer just over a year ago and wanted cruise control and it was not available at that stage. I wonder if the cc on the new one is compatible with mine and can be retro fitted. May have to call my dealer.
@peteranderson74876 жыл бұрын
Or for bikes in areas of Oz where there are a lot of straight flat roads.
@robertmarsh35886 жыл бұрын
How is this a touring bike if it can only take 180kg and doesn't allow full luggage? Why don't the side cases take a full face? Nice bike but still seems specified as a toy. Just doesn't cater for those of us that do regular 2 up. Sad..I really fancied one.
@carlosandleon4 жыл бұрын
Just slap a top box on there
@fueladrenaline51896 жыл бұрын
Love all your videos. Want to know about the background music . Which song was it?
@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff6 жыл бұрын
The payload definitely won't be 394kg, that looks more like the GVW.
@mrvwbug44236 жыл бұрын
Top case + panniers will likely be just fine unless you're going 2 up as well, but in that case you probably want a bigger bike, the Tracer is going to be a little snug for 2 up touring, though should be fine for 2 up day tripping.
@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff6 жыл бұрын
mrvwbug44 - yes, I think you are probably right. I was referring to him mixing up payload and gross vehicle weight though.
@bennettsbikesocial6 жыл бұрын
Sorry, yes - a slip of the tongue while blabbering along! It's clarified in the written review at bit.ly/2018Tracer900Review but the gross vehicle weight was used to determine how much would be 'spare' after rider and pillion
@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff6 жыл бұрын
Bennetts Bike - just read it, great thanks. Super looking bike but not for heavyweights!
@bennettsbikesocial6 жыл бұрын
Apologies again for that - sadly KZbin won't let you add captions anymore, but I've pinned a note to the top of the comments, and added it to the description. Cheers!
@LesterSuggs6 жыл бұрын
1:42 How fast?
@stephenprizeman66695 жыл бұрын
Brilliant review
@colmmyers75414 жыл бұрын
I have a 2019 tracer 900gt excellent bike
@gregorybreen77053 жыл бұрын
Is it too much power if you spend most/all your time 50-90kph (30-55mph)? Can’t get tracer 7 in Japan so it’s this.
@colmmyers75413 жыл бұрын
@@gregorybreen7705 it's a nice light bike 900gt perfect all around bike I'd say go for it
@staffordvideoproductions57884 жыл бұрын
Why would they make a touring bike where you can’t put your helmet inside your side case? I put my helmet in my side case on my FJR hundreds of times. It even fits in my soft bags on my Honda AT. Seems like a boo-boo. Must’ve been a difficult decision in design.
@Paul-df7jk2 жыл бұрын
Got an FJR1300 and have both the large and small 20 litre panniers. I use the 20 litre panniers most of the time. Just love them, I found the large panniers to bulky for days out just carrying a few items.
@Madharr2346 жыл бұрын
Nice satisfying to watch
@mule65x6 жыл бұрын
$4,000 plus 58 lbs more than the MT-09 - yikes
@mrvwbug44236 жыл бұрын
And even then the GT is still cheaper than a Versys 1000, which is its main competitor.
@MrNevo76 жыл бұрын
And almost the same price like for Triumph Tiger Sport 1050 /12000 euro in middle Europe/, but in GT you will get better features with the same rate of weight/power.
@oso11656 жыл бұрын
mrvwbug44 the versys 1000 makes like 30 more hp
@mrvwbug44236 жыл бұрын
The Versys 1k has 120hp, it is detuned from the Ninja 1k. The Tracer has 115hp and has a better power to weight ratio than the Versys 1k (not that the big Versys is a bad bike by any means).
@despacito36246 жыл бұрын
I'm 172 cm are this good bike for me
@MagicAyrtonforever6 жыл бұрын
Chrome exhaust would be good and a better screen
@cpuuk6 жыл бұрын
I gave up waiting for the GT :-(
@Honda_Africa_Twin6 жыл бұрын
Same, who can wait for the end of Jun. I don't understand the logic behind it.
@mollyfilms2 жыл бұрын
The GT now is £12700
@awanbiru-ride6 жыл бұрын
0:23 ... bouncy.
@motokrack4 жыл бұрын
I don't think you know enough about bikes to do this review
@petebusch90696 жыл бұрын
Get rid of the goo, and the name Tracer. Tracer is a weak name and makes the bike seem chinsey, then the put the word goo next to it verses the number 900, I mean WTF!!!! Someone at Yamaha needs to get fired.
@mariuszsurmacki31566 жыл бұрын
Seems another motor for tiny people
@bennettsbikesocial6 жыл бұрын
Mariusz Surmacki why?
@mariuszsurmacki31566 жыл бұрын
@@bennettsbikesocial just wish there wa s a choice of normal size and +15% size. Better leg protection and rubber pegs. Oh and mayby engine by Honda. More bland but smoother. I think it looks beautiful. Lots of people without mechanical sympathy reckon its rather ugly