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After it becomes clear that a mother (Michelle Gomez) contributed to a rapist's bad behavior, Benson (Mariska Hargitay) has a stern conversation with the mom about parenting.
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[@smileyfan16]

This makes me emotional because Liv’s mother was so mean to her. Never felt the love of a mother. Olivia felt like she was collateral damage.

[@Ajsl.Snowflake]

Not even close Liv and her mom had a close relationship.

[@findingmel6363]

@@Ajsl.Snowflake which show are you watching? There was such unhealed trauma between them they couldn’t possibly have a healthy relationship and sarina couldn’t possibly be the mother liv needed or wanted. She was also an abusive drunk which is how liv knew the mom was a drunk in the episode where the mom wanted the daughters bf charged with rape.

[@allietone20]

What, you clearly are not a real SVU fan! Because SVU fans know till this day Lives has unresolved emotional damage from her mother and the fact she is the product of rape.

[@chaotic_despot]

​​@@findingmel6363 are these scenes were liv's mom was mean in law and order a not svu? bcs ive watched 4 seasons of svu so far and the only thing liv's mom did was tell liz that she didnt regret her past (getting assaulted) bcs it gave her olivia (while lovingly stroking her hand) and then she died from a fall bcs of her alcoholism like 1-2 seasons later

[@napperforlife2020]

@@findingmel6363 Although her mother was not a good mother to Olivia, Olivia still loved her. She still spoke to her constantly. Maybe you forgot or just didn't pay attention during the beginning. Yes, her mother was a drunk and Olivia was a product of rape. I think she turned out the opposite, instead of hating her mother, she felt bad for her and that carried over to everyone else.

[@Solider7]

That mother was so obsessed with what her son might become without her that she failed to pay attention to what he was becoming because of her. She wants to criticize her father, but she's no better than him as a parent. Like father, like daughter.

[@angelaholmes8888]

Olivia was so right Martin's mother truly screwed him up she's a narcissist

[@cecejamesable]

Martin really did not have a chance, like how badly do you screw up for the father who cheated with the nanny to be the better of the two individuals. Then again, the so-called mother was poisoning him, if he stayed he would have been in a coffin.

[@jesuscoyt-munoz2753]

@Angela Holmes indeed which is why I felt really bad for Martin but also felt glad he’s gonna be with his dad after he’s released from prison at least I hope.

[@noahorakwue2653]

The Sins of are Fathers or in this case Mothers and Grandfathers

[@jesuscoyt-munoz2753]

This episode proved Olivia is one of the best Law & Order characters ever! I also felt sorry for the son because while I admit he committed a rape given his upbringing it was really the mother’s fault for turning him into her little puppet! I’m glad she’s getting punished and the son plead guilty to atone for his crime and I hope he lives a good life with his father, stepmother, and half sister.

[@juliapachu2515]

What episode?

[@riverebec1]

Are rapists actually "made"?

[@aaronkeller9897]

What e Season and episode is this from

[@2ctheocean]

The culmination of Benson healing from her mother's abuse, right here ❤.

[@jessicaredmond6770]

I hate watching these because I don’t know the entire context of the episode since I barely have time to watch TV but I know damn well Liv is right. She always is when it comes to these kinds of things. Been a loyal law & order watcher since I was about 8.

[@kathycostello6931]

What Olivia told her was the truth

[@AllyBubblesSpriggs]

Who let you watch rape, molest and pedophiles at 8!! Sorry, momma bear in me. I watched Freddy Krugar...

[@cecejamesable]

Liv looked like she wanted to smack the taste out of her mouth.

[@mckenziemarsalis9482]

eyyy me too

[@alexandraanderson3988]

Okay I haven't watched or scene the episode or the scene either yet but am I the only one who thinks she Olivia got some nerves to be telling somebody else how to raise their child. 😮 When she's basically and clearly almost in the same boat with her son and the mother. When she barley let Noah out of her sight until recently 😢😮 and you want to tell her something how to raise her child like get outta here with that Olivia here and I like her and all😢 but what she just said pissed me off for some reason tbh. I don't know it's like she's turning into another Rollins which I hate and can't stand tbh with all that judgmental abuse character she had going on or was on I guess.😢 Side note: I don't know I guess maybe I'm the only one who feels that way here about how she handled the situation oh well 🙂😃🤷🏽‍♀️ I still feel like she has no right tho to criticize or judge a parent tho. When what she did was clearly almost the same or the complete opposite I guess 🥺👀👁️

[@BestAuntieEver]

Nah, there comes an age where you make your own choices. Being self aware is a big step. Can't blame mom and dad your whole life.

[@juliechildress8905]

This socialite is sort of giving off Joan Crawford vibes with her parenting style. Smh I like how Captain Benson gave her the truth about narcissism.

[@allietone20]

Right, I was getting Mommy Dearest vibes!!!!

[@derrickboudreaux]

Benson is a G.O.A.T of Law and Order SVU

[@mikebasil4832]

Michelle’s acting as a villainess in Law & Order: SVU is even better than as Missy.

[@laurafabianmarrero]

She is brilliant Love her since the sabrina Days This woman can act

[@ericmaddox8516]

I thought she looked familiar. Her American accent is really good.

[@NickLaDrama]

@@ericmaddox8516 she hates her American accent! I agree: she’s great!

[@MatthewCYN15]

Well in my opinion Missy is more iconic and fun 😁

[@tonythejessiemuellerstan9426]

I’ve been scrolling for like 5 mins waiting for someone to bring up Doctor Who lol 😂 she’s so damn good at playing the villain although this one is not lovable like Missy or Lilith.

[@Whitewolf1827]

Mama benson giving a sermon teaching us a life lesson

[@SuperSoldier26]

WOOOO!!!! Olivia giving this mother the business and being a real hero

[@juniper890]

In these minutes I actually can see her true age and she is making it work for her.

[@kanikagaral7637]

Michelle is so gorgeous. Getting older she is looking even more gorgeous

[@wykeishacraft6820]

Telling The Truth And Nothing But The Truth❤😊

[@intheredcold9216]

Omg The Mistress! I didn't know that Michelle Gomez was doing the TV rounds. We love you, Missy!

[@towsonmoma875]

What a sick relationship her and her son have. This was a very good episode that was on last week. Watch if you can.

[@larainethorpe2847]

What episode season and number

[@kanikagaral7637]

I think its when the husband is not good wrought or leaves the wife and she starts using her son as crutch almost replacing her husband wirh her son. It's sucha twisted relationship and always ends up with one badly raised child

[@chelseaxoxo784]

Please can you tell us the full story of the episode

[@sabrina.natalie]

@@larainethorpe2847 - This is S24 E18.

[@sabrina.natalie]

@@chelseaxoxo784 - I don’t want to provide any spoilers. ​ This is S24 E18.

[@irawilliams343]

I'm not parent so I probably don't have a right to say this, but that mother was not only narcissistic but emotionally abusive and downright selfish.

[@anon20000]

You don't have to be a parent to recognize abuse.

[@junbh2]

You don't need to be a parent. We are all human, and we all _were_ children.

[@raechelcleberg8854]

Scary what one generation can do to another all the way down to the current one without realizing it. Even when depicted as fiction.

[@jamiefletcher3186]

Benson speaks the truth

[@DETROIT1948]

The Truth And Nothing But The Truth.

[@nessasreborns6667]

Amen Benson, everything she said was so true. And no a two parent households are not essential. I know plenty of people raised by one parent and they are successful like myself.

[@victordonavon292]

Except two parent households based on the nuclear family demonstrates consistently better results than single parent households and consistently less likely to fall into social diseases such as gang participation, promiscuity, drug addiction, and more. Your "evidence", while well-intended, is unfortunately little more than confirmation bias, and anecdotal "evidence."

[@kevinmillspaugh1685]

A child needs both a mother and a father to be a well rounded person

[@AllyBubblesSpriggs]

@@kevinmillspaugh1685 So, a abusive, molesting father is better then no father? Got it!! Let me go tell me daughter...

[@karolinakrum]

You are right. Two parents are not essential. You only need one who actually cares for the child. Two is a bonus.

[@victordonavon292]

@@karolinakrum Studies show otherwise.

[@taipizzalord4463]

Michelle Gomez is a crossover no one asked for but the world is better for it.

[@Updog89]

She is SUCH an underrated talent! I hope she continues to get bigger, better, juicier roles!!! They are well deserved.

[@JaneCrossan]

I thought that was Michelle Gomez!! She's a fellow Scot and I've seen her in many things over the years. I'm so pleased to see her in SVU ❤

[@jackchop1576]

She was that badass assassin, Miranda in Flight Attendant.

[@josephtafur]

Miranda from The Flight Attendant

[@johnnie9220]

Oh THIS is where that meme came from

[@carlyt99]

That episode was 🔥.

[@lynwill65]

Subtle as a sledgehammer!

[@Imperfect.build21]

I loved this episode. The Mom was so camp😂😂

[@sabrina.natalie]

For those who are curious, this is S24 E18.

[@sarahhejab6596]

Go Benson I want to see Selena Gomez on Law and Order SVU

[@Mirielenable]

Missy and Olivia Benson 😍😍😍😍😍😍. Seriously, thou, these two together is powerful 🤩🤩🤩🤩

[@DragonGoddess18]

Martin's mother is awful Olivia was right: she used him and only cares about what she wants

[@kristenmichelle3370]

Loved Benson since season one episode one! She took over by storm. ❤

[@siobhanconneely4199]

We forget how men were by few mean mums who are narcissistic and done the bad things. Each son we saw was emotional abuse of their relationship by anyone who get power of superior

[@ejebeoghenekaro2339]

Pls can you guys post the episode and season of rach clip

[@lisamiller2710]

Olivia is the best I love watching this show all the time

[@cherryblossoms7959]

I dont really like how in this episode she was never called out for being pedophile but instead just called narcissistic and controlling of her son

[@saralicious_786]

Season and episode??

[@susangreene6105]

You go Liv!!!

[@ninabonis9045]

Michelle Gomez ??! I love that actress 😊

[@crescentartdesigns]

Love Benson

[@elloguvna6820]

Like that woman is Scottish! That’s amazing😂 go Michelle

[@joeminier1736]

All I heard out of her mouth was me mine and my. Never viewed her son as his own person. A complete narcissist

[@kazkazzie3906]

This is great acting

[@gl3913]

What season and episode number is this clip from? I would very much like to see this episode....

[@kathycostello6931]

Season 24 the current episode and it is called Bubble Wrap

[@gl3913]

@@kathycostello6931 Thank you very much for the info for I am grateful.

[@kathycostello6931]

@@gl3913 you are welcome

[@alishashay17]

Season 24 episode 18

[@gl3913]

Thanks for the info.@@alishashay17

[@briannaschroeder3230]

What episode

[@Random_Wierdo.]

What episode was this?

[@jennyscott2453]

I love benson! ❤

[@rooseveltheath]

Her arrogance cost a Bronx Capt his life

[@alishashay17]

How did Olivia cost Durante his life.

[@rooseveltheath]

@@alishashay17 because she felt a sex crime trumped his gang investigation and the leader found out and had him killed because of her arrogance but she felt she was doing the right thing with what she did

[@Jacob-ps5xl]

@@rooseveltheath what so you'd rather they keep letting women get assaulted? Duarte was annoying, Liv's not perfect and I don't always agree with the character's choices (or the writing choices tbh) but im glad he's gone

[@rooseveltheath]

@@Jacob-ps5xl no it was the disrespect Olivia shown to another captain trying to talk down to him like she does to everyone in general..had nothing to do with the women's assault.because Olivia chose to do the right thing in her mind it cost the other captain his life.. just showed her arrogance

[@natashaw401]

Go Benson

[@mikebasil4832]

Olivia Benson vs. Missy. Excellent acting by both Mariska and Michelle.

[@stephensheridan1279]

Missy!!!

[@arielg7000]

❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@francostevo9939]

I can’t feel bad for Benson about her relationship with her mother because it doesn’t surprise me that her mother can’t love Benson because Benson is a product of rape. A guy forced himself on Benson’s mother and she didn’t want that. Having to look, bathe, feed, clothe, raise, and parent Benson would have to remind herself every single day of the rape. It’s no wonder she was incapable of loving Benson because she has to look back at the rape every minute of everyday of her rape. Benson doesn’t have a great relationship with her mother and it’s not surprising but there are times I have and need to feel sorry for Benson but it’s hard when Benson pisses me off in the episodes that I watch of this show.

[@prettyxbonez96]

Exactly

[@babyvia6712]

I mean, that’s still neglect and neglect is child abuse. And having a reason for it doesn’t make it okay. Both Olivia and her mother are victims, but Olivia is her mothers victim, specifically.

[@francostevo9939]

@@babyvia6712 I don’t care. I understand why her mother would not want to parent Benson; she would have to relive every minute of everyday of the rape. I cannot blame a parent for neglecting a child of such a situation. The child should been put up for adoption. The child would’ve been cared for and the mother could at least suppress the reminders of her rape. I can’t hate the mother for this. I may dislike Benson but I can’t hate Benson for the relationship with her mother. She felt her mother hated her and rejected her that is bad for Benson but at the same time I understand why the mother did. These poor girls are victims. I am not going to call this abuse just because the mother was violated

[@babyvia6712]

@@francostevo9939 Right, but her mother WAS abusive. She was abusing her child. She definitely was violated, and I would never be able to parent properly if I was a victim of rape and my child was the product. But that doesn’t change that Bensons mother abused her via neglect. It doesn’t. You SHOULD blame her for abusing her child, because she DID abuse her child, no matter what, because THAT is the textbook definition of abuse, and she can’t and shouldn’t be let off of the hook for that. At the same time it’s not fair to expose a victim of rape to the trauma of raising their rapists child, it’s not fair to expose a child to being neglected, either, because it’s never the child’s fault. The child SHOULD have been out of her care, specifically BECAUSE her mother was abusive. I understand it well and I can’t hate her mother either, but it IS abuse and it’s important that you know that Benson was being abused, even if her mother was ALSO traumatized.

[@francostevo9939]

@@babyvia6712 as I said: I don’t care. She abused her child and it is no excuse to neglect Be son but at the same time I understand why it happened. As neglectful as she was, I can’t ignore that she’s a victim and I can’t ignore Benson is a victim either. Benson shouldn’t be in her mother are because of the trauma because there is a possibility that the trauma could lead to neglect. I am not going to hate the mother over something that have her trauma. Sure it led to abuse of Benson but still

[@silverstrike5904]

Which episode?

[@alishashay17]

S24 e18

[@bekzodabdusalomov1718]

Martin's mother: You've managed to turn my son against me. Obi-Wan: You have done that yourself! Why do I feel that it was inspired by Star Wars Episode III: Revenge Of The Sith, where Anakin blames Obi-Wan for turning his wife against him when the truth is Anakin did turn his wife against him all by himself?

[@erikabutler6893]

1:48 Martin looks so different here than how he appeared before.

[@CicePiggy93]

Law & Order : SVU season 24 episode 18

[@larainethorpe2847]

What episode number

[@alishashay17]

Season 24 Ep18

[@JollyOrangeEntertainment]

I never knew that Michelle Gomez who I know as Missy from Doctor Who here in the UK was in Law and Order

[@rooseveltheath]

never cared for the fact Olivia is involved with every case SVU gets.. back in the day never saw Capt kragen ever do that.. and down to only three on squad and one sergeant

[@heyysimone]

IM LOOKING FOR AN EPISODE: does anyone know the episode (they had a clip on youtube) where a man with high clearance from the military or govt was a known pdophle (dont want to write the whole word) adopted a young boy who later told in court what he and others did to him? A boy in germany was killed? It was a clip with a female a.d.a (cabot? Novak?) Saying something like 'he only gets away with it if we let him' to get the young man to finally tell what happened. I cant even find that clip and i cant remember the episode. It has stabler and munch in it and of course theres some good old Munch telling the men who refuse to give up classified documents that its all conspiracies lol

[@houseofthesupermen377]

It's the first episode of Season 2 of SVU. It was the first appearance of Cabot. Fun fact: The actor who plays the pedophile that is arrested at the end is the same actor who plays Uncle Frank in Home Alone. He also played a few other characters in SVU and the original show. The guy who played Buzz was also in Season 12 of SVU episode titled Possessed.

[@errolpletcher9186]

Madame Satan does an excellent American accent! 👏

[@tonyyoung3985]

I really would need to see the whole episode. What exactly did the mother do?

[@cecejamesable]

Mother poisoned the husband which caused him to flee with another woman, the mother has been poisoning the son by mixing a poison with his coke, not enough to kill him but to weaken him to stay with her. Even though the son, of the mother is a rapist you can feel he really did not have much of a chance, with that thing as his mom.

[@AJT86]

She was super controlling of her son and made him overly reliant on her. She screwed him up so badly that he became a rapist.

[@sabrina.natalie]

This is S24 E18, for anyone who is curious.

[@jennilynch8900]

Thanks

[@agatakaminska68]

EVERYONE KNEW IT BENSON IS A PURE BADASS THE BOSS QUEEN OF BADASS POWER😎😤😡😠🤬

[@samyljones3871]

WAIT!! IS THIS THE DEMONESS FROM SABRINA!!!

[@ErisRising]

I knew that I knew the actress VERY WELL from somewhere, but couldn't figure it out for a while. The American accent threw me.

[@anitabarnes]

Liv is a warrior woman love her she rough and nice to people who needs it but if u cross her well she goings very rough when a child /woman/man needs to be protect them

[@nadiadecarluccio9424]

Come si deve fare x la lingua italiana

[@joewhitehead3]

She belongs at Bel View

[@yvvngmlaba]

that's not mothering

[@adrianakhoo]

she's so pretty in this scene 🥹🥹🥹

[@nihar2009]

A Dr Who villain as mom. Oops

[@anneosullivan1593]

Is that Michelle Gomez??

[@shainarobb5473]

Olivia Margaret benson is always right about everything that she says Because I honestly believe Olivia benson and Mariska Magdolna hargitay

[@zzzzzzzzzzzk]

This isn't the first time Joseph Cross plays the son of a narcissistic, abusive mother in SVU.

[@badtiming2208]

Imma need some context here.

[@conormitchell309]

MICHELLE GOMEZ IS A GODDESS

[@margaretsalisbury5420]

Put her and Stabler together😮

[@movinitlikedat45]

Wow. First Diane Venora (Marilyn Nesbit) in season 6, now Michelle Gomez's character. Joseph Cross can't seem to catch a break from having overbearing narcissistic moms on SVU.

[@joshuastrawser9160]

It's really weird to not hear Michelle Gomez's Scottish accent.

[@marlowemichaelson1366]

She doesn’t have her accent in Chilling Adventures of Sabrina either

[@megcreelman1050]

Michelle Gomez is fabulous!

[@nadiadecarluccio9424]

In italiano

[@VSaber365]

Wait, so the lousy mom has TWO sons - one older and one who is a toddler - or I’m misunderstanding something? 🤨 Because 1:46 threw me off.

[@maryvicente3692]

Used to love this show, but now it’s moving to Benson as a psychologist instead of focusing on crime and the intricacies of solving them. Boring really.

[@benolr64]

Ok while I agree the mother screwed her son over raising him the kid was an adult capable of making his own choices and he chose to rape that woman. He could have easily chosen not to but look what happened. I'll say it now bad parenting is not an excuse to commit such a crime

[@neonfroot]

Pwrhaps, but this is why I say that parents should require competency tests before having kids. I think that people only marry/procreate so they can have the opportunity to play god over another human being.

[@benolr64]

@neonfroot you completely missed my point. The kid was already legally an adult when he committed the crime he's just as much responsible for his actions as his mom, and having a bad home life is not an excuse

[@nataliee.parker2873]

MICHELLE GOMEZ!!!

[@RidleyCinema]

SVU should have ended like 5 seasons ago, early SVU is where it's at and Benson doesnt get to lecture other people as parents she let her 10 year old son believe he is bisexual a kid at that age doesnt understand sexuality someone indoctrinated him but it's a show based in New York so I'm not expecting there to be commen sence involved.

[@Random_Wierdo.]

Ok but how does an age stunted man become a rapist?

[@johannesjensen1127]

I honestly hope they soon can get rid of Churlish can`t stand her at all.

[@jjaa6157]

Mother of the year, she ain't.

[@marmar7387]

I just watched this son play a young nazi in SVU season 7

[@reallifespanish4709]

Hate when they recycle actors

[@robertocazzaniga5548]

He actually played Adam Nesbitt in the episode "home" (season 5).

[@bachlava7]

Unfortunately this show just never ends.

[@martinlloyd8866]

What Happened to Her Son?

[@alishashay17]

The son Martin is a rapist. The mother was controlling & abuse her son

[@cjryan88]

in real life benson would been arrested years ago

[@alishashay17]

Arrested for what.

[@TechBearSeattle]

Michelle Gomez? How is it that British (or in this case Scottish) actors can have a perfect American accent while American actors cannot do a British accent to save their lives?

[@stephaniejane306]

Because American accents come from British ones. In particular, since many Irish and Scottish settlers settled in the south in is easier for them to pick up southern accents

[@love2bloved]

"Olivia and Connie" both 100% natural women and so damn gorgeous!!!! urgghhhh fan since law n order- before SVU lol im old

[@rockinrandy8910]

Hmmmm weird but mariska looks like more old than usual..or less make up or she probably tired long hours on set idk maybe just me 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️😗

[@alexandraanderson3988]

Okay maybe am I and probably might be the only one who thinks this and who's opinion is different from everybody else's, but I feel like I'm the only one who thinks Olivia here have some nerves to be telling somebody else how to raise their child.😢😮 I mean I love her and all ❤ but how dare she criticize someone else how to raise their child when she probably did who knows the best that she could during that time considering their clearly almost in the same boat as I've heard Olivia and the other lady. Frankly I thought she would have been in a better position to understand considering she never let Noah out of her sight all these years until recently with some neighbor or family friend kids family or whatever. And she still had the nerve to talk and call somebody else mother a narcissist 😢😮 like how dare you she is in no position to do or say that tbh. It's almost like she's turning into another judgmental Rollins that she's not here which I can't and couldn't stand her character for that.😢😮 Side note: I like her Olivia and all so I hope not because if she does I don't know what would happen I might have to reconsider or take a break 💔 from her or something because I don't like and can't really stand judgemental overbearing, characters like Rollins tbh😢

[@alexandraanderson3988]

@@jeniferdouglas Okay calm down hot shot I love Olivia too like none other character 💕💕😘 before I was just saying as an opinion that's all no need to come for my mental state and all that because I never came for yours y'all take things way to seriously 😳 😜 these days that other people can't have an opinion tbh🙂 lmaoo if that's how you feel everytime somebody has an opinion!!! I feel sorry for you anyways have a good day!!!👍😉 enjoy the rest of your day if you haven't been lately I guess!!!

[@alexandraanderson3988]

@@jeniferdouglas Why for a simple opinion/ question tbh ❓⁉️ I'm sorry to say but like get tf outta here with that comment and have a nice day if you can 😉🙂

[@jameliakingstom1190]

It’s wrong for Olivia to blame the mother for the sons actions. And also throwing around the words narcissist

[@laurafabianmarrero]

No she is not Cause she is the one that Made her son the way he is. She was just telling the Truth

[@jrcarter9175]

@@laurafabianmarrero Like the saying goes, "as the twig is bent, so grows the tree."

[@laurafabianmarrero]

@@jrcarter9175 yes

[@lissaquon607]

Normally you'd be right. But looking at the episode synopsis- nah. It's a really really messed up dynamic

[@cecejamesable]

To be fair, it is the mom's fault. The son is guilty, there's no doubt, but the mom really just destroyed him, the woman is of devoid of any type of love as a glass bottle is vacant.

[@ItsGooseIsland]

This is why two-parent households are essential to a child's growth

[@draeblack5665]

I disagree but I understand the view point. Love is is about quality, not quantity. She was an abuser who raised an abuser. A good mother will raise a good man

[@christopherholley8164]

That's complete bull, I was raised by a single mother who was a domestic abuse survivor. Between her and my grandparents and my mom's sisters and their husbands I was brought up with good values and morals.

[@liljj2390]

Fatherless children are at the greatest detriment. More than 80% of the incarcerated males in America were raised by single mothers. So for those who were raised by single mothers and turned out ok, y’all should be clapping right now. But the reality is you don’t represent the majority. If you deny this statement, then visit your local penitentiary, and five more within a 50 mile radius. And you’ll get the same results

[@angelaholmes8888]

My father was in and out of jail when I was growing up I was mostly raised by my mother some children are better off in a single parent household

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My aunt raised her daughter single handed, all the while, working two jobs. She pushed her daughter to study hard(graduated top of her class)took on a career(project manager at steel company)men dominate. She’s worked projects that will stand for years. I think my aunt did a damn good job and, I’m so proud of my cousin