Ultimate table saw fence upgrade

[@amconsole]

It’s certainly different to other fence systems and can be fun to work with, but there are a few rather big negatives: 1) it takes away almost 4” or 100mm of Your rip capacity as that is taken by the support bridge and the clamp; 2) the aluminium extrusions are just not stiff enough and precise enough to counter the large mechanical advantage of the clamp (pivot point) being so far way from the point of pressure applied. Your precision at center point is at the expense of the fence being perfectly paralel to the blade during a rip cut. With time, the aluminium bracket will stretch from the forces involved and wear out. So it needs to be clamped at the front and back of the fence too, every time, making sure it’s paralel every time. 3) it’s expensive compared to other similarly precise DRO solutions that don’t suffer from the above drawbacks. 4) having the arm extend out means You can’t use the extension table as a router table which is a bigger drawback still for hobbbyist workshops that this fence is aimed at. 5) removing the fence for cross cutting longer pieces and then installing it back in place is a pain. I do this all the time on my sliding table saw and as a result have no need for a dedicated miter saw station, saves a whole lot of space in a smaller shop and gives better accuracy compared to a miter saw. 6) the measurement window is a long way away from the blade and the fence. Having to constantly move over 50” and back to the fence to avoid paralax errors before locking the fence down is just poor design when copared to the dial being right at the front of the fence. Just some considerations that rarely ever get mentioned by all the incra fence fans.

[@The_Altered]

There is a knob on the front edge of the fence that allows it to be locked down.

[@mikejackson2888]

I’ve had my Incra system for over a decade and love it. Your video hit everything on the nose, pros and cons, but I wouldn’t be without it.

[@bentswoodworking]

Glad I finally went back

[@michaelhedges782]

I had the Incra fence for decades. I absolutely loved it. I gave my son my old delta table saw with the fence and finally after all these years bought a Sawstop. Like you said it takes months to get the fence. I ordered my Sawstop with it's fence because I needed the saw and couldn't wait for the Incra fence. That being said I hate the fence on the Sawstop. I will use it until my Incra fence comes in 6-7 months. I'm having withdrawals from not having my Incra fence. In my opinion to this is the best fence made. I believe you will not regret this. Happy woodworking.

[@tonymarrazzo354]

I have had my Incra Fence for over a decade. Will never own anything else - these are hands down the best.

[@paullegler36]

I’ve had mine for almost 6 years. Put it on the same Rigid saw as you had, and put it on my Saw Stop last summer. I wouldn’t trade it for anything. My eyesight isn’t great, and knowing I can get close, and it will be spot on is very important for me. The placement of my saw was dictated by the length of the arm. It’s not a particular hindrance but it is, as you stated, something that must be dealt with. Thumbs up on the video. It is a great piece of gear.

[@bradmeacham6982]

I've had the previous TS III version of this fence for a couple decades on an old Jet TS-10 contractors style table saw. My setup also includes a left wing router table extension that uses the same TS III and a Wonder Fence attachment for its fence. Absolutely love it! Make a 2" rip. Reset for a 4" rip. Go back to a 2" rip that is EXACTLY 2" again. You can come back hours, days weeks, months later and get the same exact 2" cut. Totally liberating!

[@Biglou13-z3p]

Mine is on a Jet also.

[@theodorehartman5086]

Brent, I commented 2 days ago that I purchased the TS LS Incra system after watching your video. I am on here today to let you know that Incremental emailed me today with notice that Incra shipped my order today with an ETA of 28 December 2022. So excited. It looks like the supply chain and materials shortages have been resolved. For those that were waiting, the wait is over. Thanks again for such a through demonstration of the Incra TSLS system. Looking forward to using my own. I am holding up construction on a pantry so I can use my new Incra fence. :)

[@bentswoodworking]

That’s awesome!! I ordered at the wrong time. 🤣

[@theodorehartman5086]

@@bentswoodworking I was also willing to wait for the TSLS as you indicated in your video it took several months to receive the product and I was willing to do the same, anyway its on the the way and thanks again for this video and the other video you produced describing the Sawstop install.

[@Tuxedo2680]

It's a great fence. I have the Incra router fence and I absolutely love it. But the big drawback for the table saw version is the insane amount of clearance you need on the right hand side of the table saw to be able to use it. I simply do not have enough room in my small basement shop for that. Were it not for that I would have purchased one years ago.

[@cpamfly6858]

Wow. You are right. Thx!

[@FrankP117]

I have a metric version, actually was able to switch from imperial to metric while it was on order and Incra accommodated the change. I was a mech engineer for many years and was used to working in metric, and after watching some of your other videos, thought to myself, why am I using imperial? Anyway, have had it for about 6 months and love it, the repeatability and accuracy impress me time and time again. It's such a simple setup as well, easy to reset, easy to calibrate, great system. I think it could probably be updated with some features and "nice to have" items, but can't argue with it as it is.

[@brucegibson8053]

`I got mine in July, ordered it around Christmas 21'. They had a sale on. Installed it last week and fine tuned it last Monday. I had a couple of jobs to finish up first before I could get to the fine turning. I have no complaints! After using the standard Biesemier fence that came on my Grizzly G0691 for years (3+) and having a few gripes about it, I broke down and bought the Incra 52" model.WHAT A DIFFERENCE! In the little time I've spent using the Incra, my set-up time is cut in thirds if not faster. There's no more tap a little this way oops, no the other way! Well worth the $$$ spent! It does take some time to get it, but like Brent and myself says, "the best fence on the market"!

[@bentswoodworking]

Worth the wait for sure

[@jackwagonww]

I’ve had this fence for 3 years. It’s a love hate relationship. Doing long crosscuts is challenging because the fence doesn’t come off easy. It’s also challenging to make jigs for the fence. One example would be a spline jig. The repeatability is so helpful.

[@Bob_H]

I have the Saw-Train system and will totally agree it is a love hate relationship. Also when you try to push it out of the way the beam is now sticking 2 ft off of the table into your walk way. Also give up any idea of placing it to the left of the blade.

[@1987gnXtreme]

The fence doesn't come off easy? I can take my fence off in less than a minute. Super easy.

[@jackwagonww]

@@1987gnXtreme I have my saw closer to the wall so that long ass arm doesn’t stick out. I’d have to move a bunch of things to get access.

[@robertjames-life4768]

Agreed. Mine is getting turned into a permanent router table application. I think for the type of work I do a T-glide is a better choice. Saw stop is on order, can’t wait.

[@befmx31]

Jackwagon - I used the spline jig from Kings fine woodworking. I have this fence by the way and I always thought that same thing about removing it. I finally removed it the other day to make cut....piece of cake. Also, the micro adjust is just plain awesome. I found that out by needing to make some runners for a sled. My only real complaint and I mentioned it above is the way you set the fence to 90. A piece of friggen tape! As Brandon would say to Incra.... "Come on man!"

[@warped_woodwerks]

After several years of back and forth on the INCRA TS-LS, then seeing your channel\videos & the fact that you have the same table saw as I do, I am ready to throw my mortgage payment down the rabbit hole of tool goodness. Time to buy that INCRA table saw fence! Thanks for twisting my arm! Keep up the great videos, too!!

[@bentswoodworking]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@theodorehartman5086]

I have watched many videos about the Incra TS LS fence system over the bas month, but your video is the one that did me in. It is complete and to the point and showed us all the accurate and amazing things the system can do. I ordered my TS LS 32" this morning along with 2 more sets of brackets and the legs. You made me do this, thank you.

[@cnturion79]

Has yours came in yet ? As the wait time is seven to ten weeks … thanks

[@theodorehartman5086]

@@cnturion79 believe this or not mine arrived eight days after I ordered it don’t ask me why or don’t ask me how but that’s what happened

[@butchmcgraw3138]

I have had one for 20 years more or less love it I ordered the new positioner in Feb. just received it 2 weeks ago.

[@richpeggyfranks490]

I just helped my buddy install this fence on a 30 year old Grizzly cabinet saw. No issues to install.

[@davea4517]

I got a Incra TS-III used for $200 last year for my Hitachi CL 10 which I got for $150- when I replace my table saw, I will keep the fence. It gave my table saw a new lease on life. Same problem with length but I love the accuracy.

[@ludwigbarnes3058]

I’ve had mine for 3 years and I love. And like you I also had it on the same Ridgid and now on my sawstop.

[@bentswoodworking]

I loved it on the Ridgid

[@bravomalice7238]

Man, holy crap! This is such a game changer 🎉 would have never known about it without you making these videos 👌🏼 🙏🏻

[@bentswoodworking]

Happy to help!

[@chrisschmitt3860]

Also had a love/hate relationship with an Incra TS fence I tried out for a year in my small cabinet shop. I love Incra, and use an LS positioner system on my router table setup. The TS was extremely stable, accurate, repeatable, and the uncanny micro adjuster is amazing. This was mounted on my10 inch Unisaw. I ultimately sold it simply because it was always in my way, hogging up the right side table, and really messing up the workflow. I went with the Very Super Cool Tools 48 inch fence setup, and I absolutely love it. It’s out of my way in seconds, and I gained repeatability and micro adjust capability with the addition of the Woodpeckers Flip Rip system. For my work, that works best for me ,YMMV. But I will say, if you have a lot of room, and it works for you, it’s still a really remarkable piece of kit. Great video Jason! Thanks

[@JasonTheRed]

I bought a used Jet hybrid saw that came with this fence; best purchase ever! I have upgraded to a Harvey Alpha and yes this fence is now installed along with the router fence , I love this fence!

[@korrupt4]

i was JUST wondering if this could work on a harvey and then i saw your comment. we just got a harvey as an addition to our shop, How is the incra fence working out for you? was it easy to install?

[@JasonTheRed]

@@korrupt4 I love it! I would get a couple extra brackets though so you can support the whole length of the rails on the extension wings. I have a router on the left hand side and I just slid the whole fence over and add the wonder fence for routing… we’ll worth it in my 1-car garage setup

[@mrljvb]

I’ve had mine for about 15 years. I started with the router setup, full packages with all the accessories. Last year, I decided to buy the just the table saw rails and adapter plate, and moved my router table to the win of my saw and installed my setup there.

[@almac8052]

I had one for 5 years. My favorite tool in my shop

[@clemoniii]

On my second TSLS Wonderfence combo. First was stolen. Both are on house made tables with Jobsite saws dropped into middle and router left of blade. Finally planning to get a proper table saw and am glad to hear someone has put this on SawStop. Waiting to see your install video.

[@bentswoodworking]

That video will be out soon.

[@emedina403]

I have had my incra for probably 8 or 9 years on the same rigid saw like you had and I still love it! Always spot on, accurate and repeatable cuts... so worth the investment for me! Thanks for the video and enjoy your incra!

[@35206275]

They must have worked through their supply issues. I ordered mine yesterday and received it this afternoon. Thanks for the video, really looking forward to getting it installed.

[@philraymond2543]

I couldn't agree more. I have the Incra fence on my table saw/router table as well. I have had it for well over 20 years and the quality is unsurpassed. And the documentation/idea book that came with it is a permanent part of my shop. I look forward to more on this subject from you.

[@simonr6793]

Really glad that you uploaded this video as I've been looking at purchasing this for the past few months and honestly didn't even think about the over flow of the arm and the area needed, that said I know now what my first job will be in the morning when I go into the workshop 😳. As always buddy 💯% 👍 🇬🇧.

[@bentswoodworking]

Glad you found it helpful

[@simonr6793]

@@bentswoodworking extremely but the price upset me, only because over here in the UK the cheapest version of this is over £800 ( 946 dollars) or there abouts. As you can see it ain't cheap but honestly if I have the room I'm definitely going to be ordering one!!!

[@captainron7904]

I have had this fence on my Sawstop for about 3 years also i love it

[@garsta1]

Great video. I totally agree. My Incra table saw fence is the best part of my shop setup. So much that I upgraded to Incra's "The Works" LS router table. Haven't made any sawdust with it yet (still assembling it), but I'm anxious to start making routs and joints with it.

[@bentswoodworking]

That is awesome!

[@briannelson4122]

Amen brother! I bought mine for an old Craftsman saw that I was given with no fence and was in need.. I ordered it in Feb.of 2020 (pre pandemic crazyness but just barely!) and received it in late August (smack dab in the middle of crazyness!), which considering that point in time in which I bought it was pretty good I thought. It is as advertised and more! Because my saw is such old tech I also install the Jessem (?) guides and I love my old saw!

[@-ltdiy1652]

I have had the 52” Ultra system since around 2005 (I believe it was less than half of the short version today.) or the popular Miter-1000 by Incra era. I can’t believe they still use the same exact (‘cheap ‘) fence (itself) many years later. Back then, when I added Jessem router lift in the extension table, I looked at Incra’s (split) fence and it did not come close to what Joint-Tech had on their Smart-Fence (3”x3”). I bought one of those barely used with some accessories like the feather board and push fixture (all made by Joint-Tech), installed it in the Incra Ultra and never looked back.

[@sawdust2876]

I am glad that you like it but I would buy a lot of wood with the cash saved. I have a SawStop table saw. I use the Wixey DRO and replaced the face of the fence with a $20 piece of extruded aluminum. I get 100% repeatability and can switch between metric & imperial with the push of a button.

[@BossSpringsteen69]

Ordered mine on 8-10-2022 and got it this morning 10-5- 2022 08:29. I was concerned about ordering it and receiving it before i move so, i bought it in stages starting with the rails which was available in a reasonable time at the time compared to a full system. The timing was so bad because i had other things i needed to buy as well. My Saw Stop had rust damage from sitting in an uncontrolled humidity level storage facility for a year. I bought the Miter 5000 and did as much as i could with it including various temporary fences for my projects. Anyway, heading to the garage to make the first test cut .

[@timothyoutman7427]

I wouldn't know what to do without my TS-LS, same with the router set-up. Mine have been flawless for nearly a decade. Looking forward to the install video.

[@bentswoodworking]

Should be out soon

[@leanwoodworks]

I bought a TSO para guide system after watching one of your videos on the subject. I’m I subbed now.

[@rhuynh]

I have this fence since 2013 and got the 52". It's amazing though have not even touch the capabilities so looking forward to even more videos on this such as tips, use, set up. For example, yours seems to slide more smoothly than mine. I do wish I got the smaller one as I never end up cutting wider stuff but you can slide the whole thing down for more capacity or to use a router extension. Incra is a great company albeit pricey. Customer service top notch!

[@respblox]

I had a similar issue with the smooth sliding, but I re-did the whole setup from scratch. In my case the alignment of the base to the base support (called carriage in this video) was slightly off but once that was corrected adjustments became effortless

[@rhuynh]

@@respblox can you elaborate more? Misaligned how? Seems it just sits flat to the support. I had five it once and my issue was that the rails somehow got knocked off planar (needs to be 1/2 offset from tabletop along the length) by more I have the issue again but it's not the same problem

[@Putttn]

Love mine on my SS and i solved the right hand space problem with a mobile base. The mobile base provides me with a lot of capabilities

[@richm.1583]

I bought a Incra fence over 20 years ago and mounted it to a Craftsman contractor saw with attached router table. It's still going strong. I have NEVER had a kickback due the precision. I would not trade mine for anything. My wife knows that when this setup shoots craps we have to include a new Incra system to the cost calculation.

[@SteelBladeWoodworks]

I’ve been on the fence about purchasing this setup for my Sawstop. This video was very helpful, Thank you!!! Looking forward to the installation video.

[@The_Altered]

I purchased my TS/LS 52 back in 2019, it took about 5 months to receive it. I believe the 52 came with the extension legs.

[@TheFalconJetDriver]

I have the TS LS with the wonder fence and Incra Master Lift II with the clean sweep system. I had have it for 4 years, And mounted it on the Ridged 4512 as well. one that I had to get use to when using templates is you have to think in 32 nds of an inch. The tech support is impeccable, And they stand behind their products. 😀🛫

[@JeffyJeff01]

I am a massive Incra lover and will mention two important details he forgot to talk about. I owned the TS-LS full joinery system with the 52in capacity. With that system you have the capacity to fit a full sheet of plywood between the fence and blade. This brings up the first detail. The incra fence has a locking knob on each end to lock each end of the fence to each fence rail. This guarantees the strength needed for accuracy when doing something like ripping a full sheet of plywood or working with large pieces of heavy hardwood or composites. Next the "saddle" that the clamping end of the fence passes through has knobs mounting it to the fence rails so it is movable. I used the 92in. rails with my router table on the left end of my saw. This way you can loosen those knobs and slide the entire system closer to the router table so as to make all the adjustment closer to the router bit. Also as a side note the joinery level system has a two piece extruded router fence that slides and locks right into the face of the table saw fence, the outfeed piece has a dust collection fitting. The TS-LS-JS is kinda expensive at a little over $1000 but is worth every penny. I used mine for 15+ years doing high end custom cabinetry and never had to replace a single part, other than the Teflon expansion washers in one of my Incra miter squares. The only complaint I've ever had is the same as his, the dedicated floor space needed to the right of the saw.

[@danvillarreal1]

As always, an excellent, perfectly informative video.

[@donaldpyles2891]

I had one for years and I must say I loved it. The only thing I think they can improve on is the locking of the fence to the rail setup. I made a tough decision to sell it with my old saw. I am going to go digital. I am going to put an Accurate Digi Fence on the new Harvey. It claims amazing accuracy and incredible repeatability. Even as I write this I am questioning my decision but I guess I will find out when I put the new digital fence on my new saw.

[@PCWoodshop]

One of me favorite additions in my shop. I use it with the Jessem Clear-Cut TS setup.

[@bentswoodworking]

I’ll get mine on soon.

[@fredastaire6156]

Hey Jason! I have the metric threaded rod because I actually got the metric version and converted it to imperial. It’s brand new and sitting in my garage. Let me know if you’d like it. I’ll send it to you 💪🏾

[@TheSpaltedSycamore]

If he doesn’t want it I’d love to talk to you about buying it. I purchased the imperial fence second hand and want to convert it to metric.

[@bentswoodworking]

Yes!!!! Absolutely!!!!

[@fredastaire6156]

@@bentswoodworking sent you a FB message

[@farmcat3198]

@@fredastaire6156Are you a good dancer?

[@wittworks]

I was just going to ask if it would fit on my r4512! Thank you bro

[@bentswoodworking]

That’s the first saw I had it on 👍👍

[@wittworks]

@@bentswoodworking I saw that in the video (watched the whole thing!). Just wired mine to 240v last night. Game changer. Fence is trash. Been looking to upgrade for a while...until I can get a sawstop

[@nat_was_here]

Thank you so much for this video! I’ve been on the fence (heh) about it for a while, but you did an excellent job demonstrating all the pros and cons of the system in a way I wasn’t able to find on KZbin before. Eagerly looking forward to the install video next week!

[@johneverett5137]

I have the table saw and router fence. Bought second hand as they appeared. Im the biggest fan.

[@rnmaa1914]

As usual Bent u don't disappoint and make these video lots more interesting. Do you happened to have a project where you are using this in action?

[@bentswoodworking]

Unfortunately not

[@ClinesCraftedWoodworking]

That's the same one we have with the router table. Love it!! Once your "lock" wears in its a little tricky to get it adjusted just right again.

[@seanhenry744]

I had it for awhile, struggled getting the fence perfectly 90 degrees to the table. Spoke to incra and they had suggested using playing cards as shims, was quite the ordeal.

[@befmx31]

I have this fence and that is the one thing I just could not get over. How a company offering such a "high tech" fence, can't come up with a better way to make that adjustment is beyond me.

[@phatties303]

Agreed, I love the incra fence.

[@bc.cadguy6048]

when I get my table saw I've been planning to put this fence on it!

[@shughes599]

Great review. My right side is currently dead space.

[@jarasblunt]

This. Is. BEAUTI FREAKING FUL!❤

[@WasimBarri]

Great video, thanks! I wasn't happy with the kiss method for zeroing the blade considering that many blades aren't dead flat or at a perfect 90 degrees. I contacted Incra and their customer service is excellent by the way and they suggested to make 3 different rip cuts and then measure them with digital calipers. If they were all 0.15mm out from where the ruler indicates for example then micro adjust 0.15mm in the appropriate direction. Move the metal ruler to its exact location and you're done. I also contemplated buying the support legs but simply used the legs that came with the sawstop and attached them to the rails.

[@davidedwards8437]

The Incra Table Saw fence is very similar to the Join-Tec joinery fence that I bought in 2000, sold 2 years ago. I used it for the table saw and router table extension. Join-Tec went out of business some time ago. My issue was that sliding the fence base along the rail and clamping down would rarely produce a fence parallel to the saw blade. This was not an issue when using the router. It was design weakness in how the fence system slid and grabbed the rail. I was wondering if you can describe any problem with the Incra TS-LS fence staying parallel to the blade when repositioning the fence base. Thanks

[@5280Woodworking]

Really neat kit. I wonder how well it works with the Sawstop router insert which I love.

[@farshadbagheri]

Looking forward to next week's video. Thanks for taking the time. By the way, you have the cleanest lawn mower ever 😂

[@JimPudar]

Great video as usual! I just got my LS fence in the mail last week. Still saving up a bit for the cabinet saw I'm putting it on :D

[@thesmithshop2690]

I have had the incra fence but the best table saw fence I have ever used is called the paralok fence. Paralok isn't made anymore which is a shame. Uses cables to always stay square. Not sure if I just had a bad experience but to be honest I really didn't like the incra. Big and bulky and not super easy to remove. It is very accurate, but I cut my parts all at the same time so I really don't need the super accuracy. It has pros and cons like every other fence but it just wasn't for me.

[@davidandcarolh]

Hi Bent, great video. Question - What is that Router Bit centering scale for and how does it come in handy. Maybe you can discuss that in a future video. Many Thanks..

[@Tensquaremetreworkshop]

That is a lot of money for a manual fence. I made my digital fence for a fraction of this (enter the desired position, to 0.01mm, and it goes there). It also works on my router table, where the height is also digitally set. I plan to modify my table saw to digital height and tilt to complete the conversion.

[@bw0704]

I'm looking at your background in the shop and am having deja vu. I, too, have the LS on a SawStop, the Incra Mitre sled, an Axiom CNC (Elite AR16) and also the EGO lawnmower!! Do you think it's because we're both engineers?

[@panchobrown7562]

Apologies, if I may ask, I vaguely remember you stating in one of your videos that you started getting into woodworking hand tools, specifically hand planes. What happened with that endeavor? Was really looking forward to your expertise in this realm. Anyways thanks for sharing another one of your many tools.

[@bentswoodworking]

It will be a long time before I share anything regarding hand planes. That is something I have almost no experience in. But one day.

[@monty2020-i5d]

I have one and love it. I also have one on my router table.

[@independent900]

In 1998 I bought the JoinTech Smart Fence for my router table. The features of this Incra fence are almost identical to the Smart Fence, including the gold color. I still have and use the fence, but ended up tossing the arm and base. The cost of space it needed exceeded the benefit of its features, which for me, also applies to this fence and my SS. I use the space to the right of my table saw,, so this won't work. That said, the stock SS three point locking system can be a pain...i.e. fence movement when the locking lever is pushed down, even when I seat the front of the fence against the rail. I'd love to see a fence with a folding mechanism like the Bosh Glide to simplify locking the fence where the cursor is.

[@kevinsmith-wm7vr]

Hi awesome video, my question is about the two guides on either side of the Fence I'm finding it hard to keep the fence from moving side to side

[@dannix1353]

I had the competition version of this, the Saw Train. It worked in a similar fashion, what I did not like about it was the fact that the ends of the fence just above the rails, is not attached to anything. So if I was pushing toward the fence, the fence would flex. Also, how do you true-up the fence to make it parallel to the saw blade. I'm there is a way, I just didn't see you cover that.

[@WasimBarri]

I've got the same as Jason and its quite easy and mentioned in the instructions. Place a tight fitting runner in the nearest slot, then move the fence so its completely against the runner and then tighten the carriage. This of coarse assumes the blade is parallel to the slots

[@kf7bws]

I have the 32 in for my router I love it.

[@rodney2294]

I bought one here in Australia and it took 1 year from order to delivery and it was $1k AUD.

[@chloedogable]

Howdy !, When are you going to have the Sawstop/Incra fence install video up ?? Would appreciate your instructions ??

[@bentswoodworking]

It will be out this week. I got Covid so there was a delay.

[@chloedogable]

@@bentswoodworking Thanks for getting back to me !! Hey I'm really sorry to hear that you contracted the China virus. I hope that you are feeling better and take care, I want to continue watching your videos ! Ha !!

[@burlhobson7872]

Thanks for all your videos and information. However, I've never seen one on router tables and lifts. Is there a reason why?

[@kiwdwks]

Thanks for the video...looks like a winner!

[@bentswoodworking]

You’re welcome

[@rhuynh]

You know how everyone makes those jigs that ride the t-fences? Would love to see how you make those similar sleds and jigs for a fence like this. Thanks for the great video!

[@corywiegert1057]

had the Incra for 15 years, and had the same love hate as everyone else. Yes, accurate and repeatable, but my gosh, you need space. To do a 48" cut, you need almost 7' room for the fence guide to clear. Interesting gadgets for adjustments, but let's face it - how many times are you actually micro adjusting. removing for long rips blows all the tuning you put in when you originally installed. I love the Inca jigs, love the flexibility, but found my Beisemeyer with a Wixey gauge gives me the same repeatability down to the 1,000th of an inch. for wood - that's close enough. I have precision cut a piece, moved the fence to rip stock, reset back to the precision cut and have exact match as well. To each their own - but "best fence hands down" is subjective and depends on what is important to you. speed, versatility, repeatability were the most important to me. I won't own this fence again, just too many drawbacks

[@CarrackPilot]

I had one of these for my last saw. It was great. Only issue was the space needed in my small shop.

[@marshallsnyder2364]

I have a 52” SS and can see the benefit for accuracy and repeatability mentioned. I’m wondering if you can get 48” clearance to the right of the blade, which I need on occasion when working with sheet goods? I installed a Wixey DRO on my saw to alleviate accuracy and repeatability concerns. So far it has worked well, but I need to think a bit on the dado stack use. Thanks for all of your videos…they have been extremely helpful!

[@fredastaire6156]

This is such an awesome fence! I have the 52” model and I love it! I did however replace the exact fence with a longer more beefier extruded aluminum fence. I have this attached to my RIDGID TS3650 Hybrid table saw. 👍🏾

[@bentswoodworking]

Interesting on the beefier fence

[@michaelkaye4998]

BTW I have been using this fence for some time and absolutely love it 😊. I glad to know that I can add back my phenolic section. Looking forward to the next install installation

[@pctatc66]

no relation

[@howardjohnson1478]

I like it. Probably not going to get one because it is so expensive. I like the micro adjustment.

[@pctatc66]

Jason, I'm extremely surprised you didn't purchase the Metric fence. Thought you were an all metric shop?

[@pctatc66]

@7:00 Doh.. you covered it here! Thats what I get for posting before watching completely!

[@rickbyno2401]

Wonderful and informative video.

[@petebusch9069]

Does it deflect if you push on one end of it? How solid is it when you clamp it down?

[@pctatc66]

When I ordered my ICS last year, I actually considered ordering it with out a fence and rails and table (you can order it that way and save about $800-$1000) so I could order an Incra Fence. But even 12 months ago, Incra had 7-8 month back log and I didn't want to be with out a fence for my shiny new Saw so I stuck with the SawStop fence system. Sort of regretting that now of course. Maybe Ill bite the bullet and order the Incra

[@bentswoodworking]

The back log is a bummer but I’m glad I waited

[@11211lcb]

Do you have a good safe place to store the Incra fence when you remove it from the TS? That has always been a deal killer for me. Removal of the SS fence is easy and will go just about anywhere. Removing the Incra, especially the 50" model, might be a 2 person manouver.

[@1987gnXtreme]

I bought my Sawstop without a fence and rails because I was going to install the TS/LS fence. I actually ordered the fence before I got the saw and when the fence came in, then I ordered the saw.

[@pctatc66]

@@1987gnXtreme i was going to do the same thing, but a Sawstop price increase got in the way of that plan

[@BarryJohns]

Thinking about this because we do a lot of cutting boards and precision is critical, especially one doing end grainy boards. I recently upgraded to a Harvey Tablesaw, and its really good, but I was hoping for total precision and its to quite there. Anybody else have that issue with a Harvey?

[@Mark-jd1fr]

Downside is that you need 3 or 4 feet more to the right of your saw.Essentially requiring you to have your saw with 8 feet to the right of the blade if you use the full rip capacity.

[@Pattington22]

Can you use this fence on a PCS if you have the in-line router?

[@jimsynyard]

Great video (as always), curious as to your thoughts on the Woodpecker rip flip system as compared to this?

[@thenext9537]

I wish. I have a dewalt job site saw and once you build a custom mdf table around it and put t tracks in and what not it's great. You have to commit to it though because it's a lot of work to force this 10" saw to do your bidding! I hope to have a sawstop one day and not have to mess with all this crap lol.

[@bw0704]

Bought my LS back in 2005 when I had a PowerMatic66. Bought a SawStop in 2009 and moving the LS to it was a breeze. I had originally bought the imperial version, but 'went metric' in my shop about ten years ago and got the metric lead screw conversion kit. I, too, am an engineer and can easily add/subtract fractions in my head, but why ?? I was a EE and so was 'raised' metric, and my real question to myself was why did I stay 'imperial' for so long in my shop?

[@danmcdan8278]

I have the same 36" SawStop. There have been a few times I kicked myself for not paying the extra $100 for the 52 inch table. But by and large, I don't need it. But losing another 4 inches of capacity would just kill me. I didn't see anyone else mention this - am I missing something?

[@JimE6243]

I have had mine for years along with the one on my router table. The +'s far out weigh the -'s. I would never go back to the traditional fence no matter what make it was. My only regret is that I didn't do it earlier. JimE

[@bentswoodworking]

Love my router table as well!

[@kperellie]

I think I bought mine around 2003. I bought the router fence attachments and a few other extras with it as well too. I think it was around $300.00

[@11211lcb]

So I have been a serious, and in business furniture builder, since 1983. I work out of a 3 car garage and none of my equipment has a permanent location. Things need to move around so my DC is a 30', 4" hose that will go anywhere in my shop. I only need one hose because I only use one machine at a time. ;!) On to the Incra TS fence. If room was no object, I would get one. I only use 50" rip capacity saws, my current SS ICS is 50"+ capacity. I was hoping that you would have actually demonstrated using the fence. What I think your viewers need to realize is that the Incra is nice but....... I very often, multiple times during a build remove my rip fence. Where do you put your Incra when not in use? And for that matter if you have 50" rip capacity and need a larger space for the fence? Do you have to secure the front and back ends of the fence to prevent wobble? It has always seemed to me that the Incra is very nice but in all seriousness I can easily set my SS fence to within 1/128. This is not precision metal working. LOL. I truely believe that if the Incra fence had the lock and the threaded rod for minute asdustments built into the front rail this thing would be a much better design. As usual, Good Video!

[@gnlman]

Very nice fence system. a lot of overkill IMO. I'll stick with my Saw Stop fence. I've never had an issue with the bump method. Large production equipment does not have this level of precision, but the guy in his garage needs it...LOL I do not make anything that needs "micro adjust". Nice review though. hope they gave you a good deal on it.

[@jaroldpeck2992]

How do you compare the Incra fence to the Fence that comes with the Harvey saws?

[@bentswoodworking]

There is no other fence like the incra

[@ColocasiaCorm]

Incra is really catching my attention lately

[@jimw544]

This is the most honest and precise Incra video I've seen. Everything you said is 100% true. I purchased an Incra router table several years ago and 2 years ago I called Mark at Incra to purchase an Incra router lift (Mast-R-Lift). Incra tools just work period. No playing around with them they just work. Set zero and go. The only reason I do not have the table saw fence is that the right side of my saw is against the wall. My shop is long and narrow. So I have no other place to put the saw. I also have their miter gauge and stop and fence and stops on my drill fence.