Best Budget Kayak for Camping and Fishing - Perception Hook/Sound 10.5 Kayak Review

After 4 years of kayak camping on 18 different rivers in my Perception Hook 10.5 with over 500 miles of paddle time, I'm ready to give my full review. The Hook Angler 10.5 is basically the same kayak as the Sound 10.5 minus a few options that I will discuss. This is a great budget friendly kayak that is just a step above other lower end entry level recreational kayaks and is perfect for the beginner or seasoned kayak camper and fisherman.
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[@jasonwish-]

For all you experienced kayak campers out there, thank you all for the kayak recommendations! For those of you who may be new to kayak camping or thinking about getting into it, here is a video with some helpful tips to consider to help you get started: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hInIiKWVhNaertksi=IXTwGAiM8yWIsy7r

[@TheRoadfarmer]

I have an old town sportsman 120. The base level fishing sit on top. It's expensive. But it has huge rear storage. Lots of storage in front. And a dry storage that's really big. And a removable seat so I don't need to take a camp chair. It's an investment but I love it

[@jasonwish-]

thanks, sounds pretty nice, I will check it out!

[@thomasc7332]

I have a Perception Hook 10.5 as well. It has that same bump on the bottom. I was thinking I did it when I strapped it down in the bed of the truck. I will send you a Pic when I get it out this spring. I have tested my friends sit on top and the seats are superior! The yaks are often heavier and slower.

[@jasonwish-]

Yeah, I'm definitely not interested in a heavier and slower kayak. That is so weird about the bump on the bottom!

[@SinchuwusOutside]

Thanks for sharing Jason!!! I've got a blue Perception Hook and love it. I use it primarily on small lakes for fishing and just chilling. I've been wanting to get it out to some small rivers like you do and camp. I totally agree with all your pros/cons of it. It's a great stable kayak, easy to get in and out and navigate. Let me know if you ever want any company on one of your kayak camp trips, I'd be up to coming your way to join you. I'm in the Canton area and can get PTO pretty easily if you go during the week. Thanks again! -dave

[@jasonwish-]

Sure thing, Dave! Yeah, I haven’t seen too many kayaks I would be interested in trying out. I think we have a really good one! I’m hoping to get on a couple of Ohio rivers yet this spring, keep in touch.

[@jeremymalatt317]

I have the exact same kayak and I love it! Got it last year at Dicks.i had a blast with it last summer.

[@jasonwish-]

I have yet to find anther yak that will work better for my style of kayak camping, thanks Jeremy!

[@jasonjohnson3164]

Hello fellow Jason 👋 I've had the Sound 10.5 for almost 2 years now. I have yet to do any kayak camping with it but it's been a solid yak for sure. It does come with a ram ball mount with a rod holder. There are 2 sizes of the ball mount, a 1" and a 1.5". The larger one came with the yak but I ordered the smaller one to assemble a gopro mount. It doesn't have the anchor trolley or the mooring cleat nor does it have the front bungie. It does have mold marks to allow the addition of it if one so chooses. I myself did add a bungie on the front as I needed another storage option. I also added a perimeter line around 2/3 of the yak. I've been considering purchasing the perception conduit, a 13ft craft as it has "dry storage" in both the stern and bow, allowing for more storage volume. Happy adventuring!

[@jasonwish-]

Thanks Jason, I just looked up the Conduit and it does look like a nice yak. I'll have to check out the dry storage size on it to see if it might work for me, it would be very different from what I'm used to having all my gear on the outside.

[@johnkennedy9226]

I have a Perception Caspia it was my first Kayak and it is somewhat similar to your Hook which the exception of the cargo bed. I recently purchased an Old Town Loon 126 (12’ 6”) Angler. It was a Total Cargo Capacity of 450 lbs, and 390 lbs of usable cargo capacity. It doesn’t have any foam blocking for flotation, the foam is sandwiched between the polyurethane. It’s a sit inside with a rear sealed bulkhead and hatch. The front is open and has a dashboard. The seat is fully adjustable and the kayak has foot pegs and thigh braces. There are spray skirts available for the larger cockpit. There are smaller Old Town Loons, but I bought this for its larger capacity. I also bought an Old Town Sportsman 132 Bigwater Fishing Kayak. It’s essentially the Predator 132, but with some modifications. I would have liked that my Caspia been designed similar to your Kayak with the storage area. I had bungee cord on the top decks. I was able to hold all of the basic gear; Tent, Sleeping Bag, food and beer, but I was setting pretty low in the water. That’s why I went with the bigger kayak, I was hoping to make it so I could keep from dragging the bottom of the kayak.

[@jasonwish-]

great information, I will check these all out, thanks John!

[@Nick-mc2hy]

Jason I bought this kayak last season after watching your videos. Absolutely love it. Bought it on sale at Dicks for $280! I highly recommend it as well. Such a great lvl 1 class river kayak. I have a hobie mirage and a Jackson coosa x. To me the Hook is a better balance and I use it 9 times out of 10 when I’m on a river. The sit in allows you to have a lower center of gravity. The Coosa X has incredible features but is nearly 100lbs! 😅 My hobie is great and the pedal drive is great. Super stable but more an ocean as it’s wide and long. I had an old town 106 pdl and while a great fishing kayak you’d be pulling the drive every minute whenever you go shallow or into weeds on a river. IMO the hook might be “entry level” but it’s light enough to shoulder to the river, has a tankwell, interior storage for semi dry storage, lower center of gravity, has a tapered bow for speed/somewhat taper stern for stability and speed and very maneuverable. If you were fishing I’d probably recommend a crescent shoalie or a bonefide rvr but seeing that you really don’t I think a sit on top is over complicating a river camp/float. Good luck and thanks Jason. Can’t wait to see some of your adventures this season.

[@jasonwish-]

Thanks for the very detailed and informative comment Nick! Good to know that my Hook was a good choice from someone with so much experience with other kayaks!

[@crowstudios300]

Hey Jason! Fellow Ohio kayaker here...This will be my son and my first summer of kayak camping and bike packing. We've done lots of conventional camping but we're looking forward to trying out these new adventures and have sure been informed and inspired by your videos; love them. We'll be filming our adventures and putting them on my boy's channel but I sure hope we run into you out there this summer. But even if we don't good luck/blessings to you and thanks a lot for all of your advice! Oh and we'll be out on our new-to-us HooDoo Tempest 130T a tandem sit on top. I've had a Wilderness Systems sit in for many, many years but I'm already loving this new ship. Anyhow, thanks again! See you out there!

[@jasonwish-]

Thanks so much! Hope you guys have a summer full of awesome adventures! Let me know your boys channel name if you want me to check it out.

[@crowstudios300]

@@jasonwish- thank you for the well wishes…we hope you have a spring and summer full of good times as well! My son’s KZbin channel is Benson Bushcraft, we’d be thrilled if you checked it out. We’re lifelong friends with John at Boonedockery whose channel suggested you. Thanks again!

[@DriveThruGuy]

Hey Jason, I love my tank that is a Perception Pescador 12’ but is a sit on top. Thru hull with a hatch and tons of storage but heavy at 66lbs. That is what I have kayak camped 5 night, 6 days out of. I love my Dagger Axis 10.5’ and 12’ but have not camped out of those. I have two cheapies for friends to paddle and I just ordered of Wilderness systems Tsunami 14.5’ touring boat for some rougher and quicker paddling. I could probably swing 1-2 nights out of my Axis 10.5’ and maybe 3-4 nights out of the 12’. Confluence owns all these brands as the gentleman above stated.

[@jasonwish-]

you have a nice assortment of kayaks! I will check some of these out, thanks!

[@jcepler]

I have a Seastream 12 for camping. It's s sit on top. I very much like it for class 1 rivers. It's very stable, easier to get in and out of, and has dry storage. One advantage of a sit on with a lawn chair seat It the chair lifts off and makes a camp chair. The rear tank well holds 2 smaller coolers and a dry bag or two. The front storage hatch holds plenty of gear for a 3 day trip. Thank you for the review directed toward camping. River camping is definitely my favorite thing to do in recent years.

[@jasonwish-]

I appreciate the comment, I definitely want to try a sit on top sometime, but I have a feeling for longer trips I’m gonna want a sit in. I’m eyeing a Jackson tripper currently, 12 footer sit in with a nice adjustable seat that comes out for a camp chair as well with cargo storage and dry storage. Thanks for the input, Happy Paddling!

[@johnkennedy9226]

Hi you were commenting on using your Perception Hook 10.5 for Whitewater Kayaking. I used to take my Perception Caspia 10.5 down the Slippery Rock Creek, and the Neshannock Creek in Western Pennsylvania. The Slippery Rock Creek is a Class ll, and Class lll Creek from Rose Point, and McConnell’s Mills State Park. The Kayak actually handled the rapids pretty well. One of the best features was if I tipped and “Went Swimming” I just fell out and grabbed my Kayak and paddle as it passed by… when I got into an eddy I’d dump the water out using the drain plug. My Caspia didn’t have the “Day Bed” that’s featured on the Hook 10.5, and Sound 10.5. I was looking at the Old Town Vapor 10, and Old Town Vapor 12. The Vapor 10 didn’t have a large Day Bed capable of fitting a large backpack, the Vapor 12 wasn’t that much better. I was wondering how much room was in the Cargo Hold of the Old Town Loon 106 Angler? I have the Old Town Loon 126 Angler and there’s plenty of storage for equipment. The Loon has Polylink 3 type Polyurethane that eliminates the need for the foam blocks, and there’s a waterproof hatch behind the seat.

[@jasonwish-]

Good stuff John, thanks for sharing all this great info! I don’t like flat water and I don’t like whitewater but everything in between is my go to. Hopefully I’ll get a chance to yak some more PA rivers soon…I really enjoyed the Clarion.

[@dustinkelley7932]

Funny that you'd post this when I'm trying to decide on a new kayak! I've had a cheap pelican for a few years and really want to upgrade but I'm struggling to decide what to get. I like the thought of a sit in for more speed and distance (I'll be mostly in all flat water), but they seem to be more limited on open storage options with alot of them having a hatch in the back and just the bungee on the top at the front. The sit ins seem to be awesome for storage and if I want to fish, but I worry about how they'd paddle if I just wanted to go cruise around a lake for a day or two. There's so many options it's overwhelming!

[@jasonwish-]

I agree, very overwhelming. For what I do, I just don't want the heavier weight of a sit on top especially when I have to drag it around debris fields that I encouter on Ohio rivers.

[@Thomas-ps8xv]

watched lots of your vids ,i live in N Mi on the Thunder bay river, im picking up a sound 10.5 this weekend. see you out their brother

[@jasonwish-]

Hope you enjoy your new kayak! You live in an area that I’ve never been to yet, hopefully I can make it up there someday.

[@slickmouf879]

I agree I bought the hook 10.5 for myself and the 9.5 for the wife and got rid of our other kayaks because they didn’t have the crazy amount of space that the perception sound kayaks have. I weigh 170. She weighs 190 and that leaves a ton of room and weight capacity for all of our needs and luxury kayak camping. I even have room to bring fishing gear.

[@jasonwish-]

Yeah, I’ve been looking at a lot of different kayaks online but I’m not seeing much that I like better than the perception hook, possibly the Jackson tripper. Thanks!

[@darvinlightner2210]

Jason you could try putting a sand bag in the hull while it’s up on stands and heat up the bottom with a hot air gun it worked for me

[@jasonwish-]

Well, I’ve had over 100 pounds in it for three weeks in a hot greenhouse and it still came right back but maybe I’ll try heating the hull with a hot air gun and see if that makes a difference, thanks for the suggestion.

[@JourneyontheTrail]

Great kayak review man! Definitely ready for kayak season!!

[@jasonwish-]

Thanks AJ, we need to get together for a trip this year!

[@JourneyontheTrail]

@@jasonwish- definitely!!

[@michaelcrawford9425]

Thank you for this! I've been waiting for your review. Great insight!

[@jasonwish-]

You are very welcome! I'm not great at review videos but hopefully it was helpful!

[@martinfoos6683]

I would suggest the Bonafide EX123 as your next kayak. Extremely stable, rugged construction, lots of storage room, a place for everything, great handles, and it looks really cool.

[@jasonwish-]

I have seen this one pop up on facebook a few times...if I decide to go with a sit on top, this looks like a great contender, thanks Martin!

[@XplorinWithPaul]

I'm gonna be doing multi-day kayak trip in just a 8 ft lifetime kayak with a back pack on the back and tie water I guess lol. Gonna go along Florida's gulf coast side towards keys. But it's all I got. Use what you got . Just do it!

[@jasonwish-]

Sounds awesome!

[@benc.3518]

Love my pescador pro 12. I feel pretty stable on it always and the chair works great as a camp chair also. Pretty good little unit.

[@jasonwish-]

I've heard this kayak mentioned quite a bit over the years, I will check it out, thanks!

[@kellydtth2749]

Nice little kayak. The seat back looks like a luxury. I use a sit on top Ocean kayak prowler 13. Definitely sit in is more stable. Not so sure about dryer. Upside of sit on top is ease of entry and slightly better visibility. I have similar big cargo area in the back with plugs in the scuppers and use plugs in the cockpit. Pull the plugs and it will handle light surf(ocean). As for the oil canning, maybe a couple of sandbags inside with a gentle application of a heat gun on the hull? Food for thought. Cheers

[@jasonwish-]

Thanks Kelly, I will give that a try, and thanks for the insight and thoughts about the differences between sit ins vs sit on tops!

[@johnkennedy9226]

I recently purchased a Perception Sound 10.5. I saw some of the great features that my Perception Caspia didn’t have; mostly the rear cargo hold, and the weight. I’ll probably add the two Scotty Mounts, and add an anchor trolley mount. I have a CreekKooler that I tow behind my Kayak and I can pull the up to the cockpit if I need something from the cooler. The CreekKooler adds additional dry storage, or you can use it as a cooler.

[@jasonwish-]

Hey John, thanks for the great comment, that creek cooler sounds pretty awesome. I might have to check that out!

[@rainmakr3595]

I have a Pungo 12 and just one 2-night trip under my belt. It's nice that it has dry storage; but, I'm somewhat envious of the rear storage on yours and that you can put a large bag back there without having to cram it through a storage hatch. I'm tall and like the 12' kayak but admit that I've considered a sit-on-top (SOT) for storage space, max load capability, and dog friendliness. Two things keeping me from a SOT: exposure to the elements and trying to hoist that beast on top of my car (not ready for a trailer and SOTs are HEAVY).

[@jasonwish-]

I agree with all your reasoning...I really do love the huge cargo area and don't want to have to stuff my gear into a dry storage area. Thanks for the comment!

[@noah-xu7uq]

i got mine in a trade for basically $100, its the west marine version but same everything including color except black bungee cordage. i added a scotty mount and cupholder to the front part and my mandatory life jacket and whistle fits under the cordage on top of the front part. milkcrate and small cooler fits behind me perfectly and for me being 300lbs no issue. i mainly use it in the gulf near mangroves. i like the anchor trolly rope for sitting in a mangrove opening and just move the eye down to turn 120 degrees.

[@jasonwish-]

Sounds like a really great set up, thanks for sharing!

[@MB-yw8zf]

Jason, you should check out the Everglades Challenge. 300 mile unsupported kayakak race from Tampa to Key largo. We did it last week and had a blast. It's definitely a challenge to complete.

[@jasonwish-]

sounds pretty amazing and brutal! How far off the coast are you normally paddling for this?

[@Terraplanebluess]

I’m a canoe guy. I have a camper like your buddy dave has. I like to load it up with my gear and anyone else’s gear I paddle with. I do not have a pack quite as large as your friends though lol

[@jasonwish-]

My wife and I are actually getting into canoeing now and have a big trip planned for this fall...Dave said he would lend his to us but we might just buy our own. What would you look for in a canoe for two people and a small dog for a 4-5 day trip?

[@DMSAdventures]

No advice from us landlubbers! We did see a mouse run under your table at some point.... so we're good for that! 🙂 Luckily I have a built in excuse... theres no way I can afford equipping all four of us with kayaks at this point! Especially with an active tent addiction! ;-) Great review though! I always appreciate longer more thorough reviews!

[@jasonwish-]

Hahaha, I did see that mouse or vol! Crazy that you saw that too! yeah, equiping a big fam can get quite costly! I'm glad I don't have a gear addiction, most of what I use is 4-6 years old except for a few updates from time to time. Thanks Mark!

[@coltonmason8290]

I got one just recently. Im a fisherman, so I love it. But you can definitely get that oil canning out. All you need is a heat gun and some weight on it. Most of your cons were really from neglect, but I agree with the foam blocks being a bit of a nuisance. Ive been considering cutting mine back a little.

[@jasonwish-]

Yes, I will try the heat gun method for sure. Not sure what you mean about my cons being from neglect though?? No dry storage, poor cup holder design, useless bungie cords on front, foam block too big and the oil canning, which was like that new out of the wrapper, so nothing neglected here. Anyways, glad you like your kayak, it really is nice and the pros outweigh the cons for sure.

[@darvinlightner2210]

I love my Seastream angler 120 for kayak camping

[@jasonwish-]

Awesome, thanks I will check it out!

[@johnracki2258]

For the dent in the hull, Just place a cinderblock back inside and heat the bottom of the hull with a heat gun. Should go back into shape

[@jasonwish-]

This approach was suggested numerous times, and I will definitely give it a try, thanks!

[@roberthall843]

Have you tried to just set your kayak upside-down in the yard all day in the July or August??? They are made to pop back in place that way. Worked for me. I heard it pop back out in a couple hours in my house lol. Great video. Now on to your question about going to a sit on top. I have an ascend T12. It fits my 2 heart and 50 pound. But and it's quite easy to stand up in and walk. About. However, when I have all my camping year on there. Add my 60 pound dog and my fishing gear and food and drinks I don't stand. Shut up. I have taken it through class 2 Rapids with a dog and gear. But I had to put my feet out to the sides kind of in the water. For balance so we didn't flip but I do it all the time. And it's become quite easy. I don't recommend anyone do it. My ascent is kind of like a barge. It is but heavy in current. I like it, So far, it has served me better. Then my starter Pelican Angular kayaks. However, I have taken my Pelican angler kayaks down class 3 Rapids. Empty, of course, no gear. And I certainly don't advise anyone to do that. But with trial-and-error I've become pretty great at that. I've been friends with you on here for long enough. I'll let you borrow mine for the day. I trust you with it. I've got Wheels that if used correctly can take it Uber any service and keep shoe from Putting a hole in the bottom and half. An Have to carry all your gear and kayak. all your gear a 100% better. You just loaded on the wheels. Take him off when you're slightly over trees During portaging and then put them back on to the water..

[@jasonwish-]

Thanks for the offer! I'm going to try a heat gun on the bottom with weight on it at the same time. I had it in a hot greenhouse in July over 110 degrees with 150 lb of cynder blocks on it for three weeks and it still cam right back. Thanks for all the input!

[@roberthall843]

@@jasonwish- Yeah, I heard you say that in the video I put mine right out in the yard had the same Dent. Put it upside down and it just popped back into place . Be careful with the heat gun you might Permanently ruin it. But yeah, if you wanted to meet on the river someday I know you Should probably redo the little Miami. Since it got washed out on you last time. I wouldn't mind meeting you on a weekend in paddling down with you. That's usually My normal kayak camping adventure. Don't wanna be in any of your videos, but you can at least try it out and see what you think.

[@Arctic650Spider]

Hands down you got the best boat for backpacking. Sit on top need 11.5-12 ft for same stability. Weighs more if you have to drag around. Lose your paddling leverage from sitting high and can't brace off your thighs. Doesn't the Colonel have one. I use dog food storage container for dry storage

[@jasonwish-]

Yes, the Colonel has two, but he never kayaks anymore, I think he may have retired from it. Lol. Yeah, I really like my sit in, but I have been eyeballing a Jackson tripper sit in, looks like it might be the next best thing with a removable adjustable seat, ample outside cargo storage and dry storage. But it’s like 15 pounds heavier so I wouldn’t want to use it if I’m on a river with multiple portages.

[@Arctic650Spider]

I got the Ascend FS 10 similar to yours. Has dry storage only small items Camera,phone, wallet. Has removable suspended seat camp chair. Only con has V bottom front and back. Excellent tracking and speed. But dragging on portage flops 45 degrees on one side while dragging

[@rickrochester7181]

Ok, you know I'll have an opinion!! Sit on top is going to add a lot of weight. I do like them for fishing but not for camping. Perception, dagger and wilderness systems are all made by the same company here in Greenville SC. I use a WS tsunami but I also have pungos. I highly recommend both of these. If you get one, I'd buy used. The company was bought by pelican, and I'm not a fan, and from what I understand the plastic is not the same quality now. Good luck!!!!!

[@jasonwish-]

I figured you would throw in your two cents Rick! I hope I can make it down there again soon to try one of yours out and get some first hand experience in one. Thanks Rick!

[@rickrochester7181]

@jasonwish- say when!!!!! I have a dagger stratos 14.5l, tsunami 145, tsunami 125 , pungo 125 and a perception sit on top and you are welcome to try them all!!

[@MidwestOntarioHeadwaters]

Still the best bang-for-buck sit inside kayak on the market.

[@jasonwish-]

I think your right!

[@TM-hh5ih]

I have the same kayak. Bulge in the same place up front. I use to think it was because of how I strapped it to the top of my car. But seeing yours with the same bulge in the same spot makes me think it's just a problem with the design of the boat.

[@TM-hh5ih]

Or it could just be a problem the boat is particularly prone to. But it's is literally an identical bulge in the exact same place.

[@jasonwish-]

Man that is crazy! I don’t think it really impacts the functionality of the kayak but maybe it does. I wonder if a hot air gun or boiling water put on it with a heavy weight to push out the bulge would work long term? Might be worth a try. My biggest qualm is that the bulge takes up space for my soft sided cooler that I put there.

[@TM-hh5ih]

@@jasonwish- It might cause some drag but I doubt it's even noticeable. Never really bothered me enough to try and get it out. If you're looking for another sit inside which is a level up that could make a good camper you might want to check out the Bonafide EX123.

[@jasonwish-]

@@TM-hh5ih wow! I just watched the overview video of this kayak and I think it may have checked all the boxes....I might just get one, thanks!

[@TM-hh5ih]

​@@jasonwish- if you're curious about the storage capacity this guy gives a pretty good look at it kzbin.info/www/bejne/p2K9d4qfl5Zpnbssi=9HWKtv2PhjHm0v3Q

[@FiveRiversBeyond]

Give us a review of a sit on top. People would value your opinion.

[@jasonwish-]

My buddy the Colonel was supposed to send me a review of his two sit on tops, but he didn’t got it done so maybe I’ll have to take them out and review them myself lol

[@robertuffman3041]

Jackson Tripper, you can borrow one of mine if you would like.

[@jasonwish-]

This looks like a really nice kayak! I've never really considered them but after looking a bit closer, this might just be what I'm looking for! Thanks Robert!

[@robertuffman3041]

i've only kayak camped 3 times with mine but i would love to go more. i can put more than enough stuff on it for a nice camping trip. and i'm 275 pounds right now. @@jasonwish-

[@MrSpeedy327]

Use a heat gun on your kayaks bend. Then put blocks and let it cool into place

[@jasonwish-]

I will give that a try, thanks

[@user-vl4sq8uq3p]

The best part about kayaking is your canoe buddy

[@jasonwish-]

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[@mackjenkins7721]

Hello Jason how are you doing man? I am looking into getting me a 12ft Pungo for kayak camping. I have a sit on top kayak right now because of my Extremely very wide feet 🦶 i have. People have said to me what your feet 🦶 have to do with that? Well my feet 🦶 are very long because I am a sz15 6 E wide so when I try to fit inside the Pungo kayak my feet 🦶 Got stuck inside the kayak. They almost had to call 911 to cut my foot out of a brand new kayak. With my feet 🦶 being 6 1/2 inches wide from my big toe to my lil toe that didn't help at all. So i had to go with a sit on top kayak because of how big & extremely wide my feet 🦶 are. But sit on top kayak are go too for kayak camping it just you have to Is strap everything down do you don't Lose anything. But i know that sit inside kayak are better for kayak camping. I Kinda found a way to fit into a sit inside kayak without my feet 🦶 getting stuck so i am looking into the Pungo kayak. Good video buddy thanks you for sharing this video about your kayak. I really enjoy watching that. I like to hear about what people think about there kayak.

[@jasonwish-]

I can hardly believe how big your feet are! The Pungo sounds like a decent SOT, I'll have to check it out. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and take care Mack!

[@mackjenkins7721]

@@jasonwish- Hey buddy ! Yeah a lot of people can't believe how extremely wide & big my feet 🦶 are . Especially at the kayak place. One of my the Employee at the kayak place had wide feet 🦶 & He couldn't believe how extremely wide my feet 🦶 was. He said Wow man your feet 🦶 are way wider than mine are. I was so embarrassed. I just LOL.