Best Couple🧡 | Interview With The Vampire 2x6 | Reaction & Commentary

[@asteven8]

Frank: Ain't no way. Me: ....*deep sigh* way.

[@FrankFreezy_]

I didn't have words. My God

[@yangsrightarm3767]

crazy ass episode... fun fact is that there's a painting of the kiss of judas in armand and louis' bedroom

[@FrankFreezy_]

Lord have mercy that says a lot

[@rambleswrites6937]

I do not know if this has been mentioned before but something I think you have missed is that in episode 5, Armand deliberately does not put Louis in his coffin for several days - despite the fact that it would heal him faster. In terms of heinous acts by Armand to Louis, I'd definitely say it's quite high.

[@AnxietyRat]

Yeah not even just the coffin but he also waits a couple of days before giving him his blood which also would heal him very VERY quickly... He purposefully left him in pain for a good couple of days... pretty much as a punishment.

[@jaginaiaelectrizs6341]

​​@@AnxietyRat And the room he left him in, before putting him in the coffin, probably had the most possible bits of sunlight sneaking in around the newspapered windows of any we saw. Which is what a coffin would have helped keep out so much better. It was like, not only did Armand refuse to put Louis where Louis would heal the fastest, he also put Louis exactly where Louis might heal the slowest and/or possibly even continue burning further just to a more less-overtly-fatal or micro-degree. (But maybe that's just me being weirdly overly specific in distinctions, idk.)

[@glittermethis]

@@jaginaiaelectrizs6341I agree. Gosh, I want to call Armand another favorite nickname, but for possibly spoiler purposes I’ll refrain. Our Gremlin was pissed and his feelings were hurt. Everything he did during those 4 or 6 days was to cause maximum pain to punish Louis and Lestat, and himself as well.

[@jaginaiaelectrizs6341]

@@glittermethis Now I'm just wondering if I could possibly be thinking correctly of the nickname you actually wanna call him or not, but of course there's no way to get into it without just actually saying it, so I will just have to be curious forever. 🤣🤣

[@glittermethis]

@ I bet it’s the same name, it’s a cute nickname 😂

[@cherrycola8217]

1:13:07 I think one of the reasons Louis finds it so difficult to express love (especially verbally) is his brother Paul. They both said I love you to eachother and then Paul threw himself of the roof in front of him. Immortality or not I think that would stick with anyone for a lifetime.

[@FrankFreezy_]

Big fast. I hear you on that

[@SaiyanSerenityV]

Oh that's good, I haven't considered that angle and you're right - the way trauma works that could absolutely be a factor

[@mahitoapologist]

i hadnt thought about that but i think youre so right! even earlier this season claudia's own trauma parallels that notion. she talked about how while she was being assaulted, the fucker would tell her he loved her and she mentioned how that fucked her up bad.

[@alexandrasloane]

There is something so satisfying in the line "You're a manipulator, Claudia de Lioncourt!" Something satisfying in someone finally saying out loud that Claudia was as much Lestat's child as Louis' child or sister.

[@shannonmitchell167]

Okay, finally someone else said it LOL! Claudia was more like Lestat than Louis from the moment she was turned. Only thing she didn't have was his lack of restraint aka not killing, burying bodies were they'd float to the surface & keeping souvenirs in the house.

[@ErieMaxwell]

Yeah, absolutely. She was Louis' child because they both actively chose to be family over and over again despite how angry they might become with one another, but she was Lestat's child whether either of them wanted it or not. There was no escaping it; it was on a bone-deep level. I think that was part of Armand's problem with her; she shared too many characteristics with Lestat for it not to be obvious that was his daughter.

[@maevem316]

Honestly, I always took this more as Armand being purposefully cruel than making a non-biased comparison, lol. I agree that Claudia takes after Lestat, but her decisions here remind me a lot more of Louis than him (thinking specifically of him convincing Lestat to turn Claudia for him). I wonder if we'll get to see more of that comparison being drawn in season 3 though 🤔

[@jaginaiaelectrizs6341]

​@@maevem316 I mean, it absolutely could have been both the literal truth and also mentioned specifically to dig cruelly at Claudia's particular sensitivities/vulnerability.

[@Buniverself]

your reaction to "face down in the coffin" scene was too funny 😂😂😂😂😂😂 I'm cracking up

[@FrankFreezy_]

I was not expecting that at all😂

[@_k_n_]

I always interpreted armand asking louis if its an order was a way to manipulate Louis into taking the choice to turn Madeline away from him. Armand uses their power exchange only in ways that serve him or are comfortable for him and always has. Louis acknowledged that boundary, and didn't actually force him to do something he didn't want to do - it was too important for that powerplay bs. He didn't want Madeline's turning to be tainted by anything... Louis wanted to make it good for her unlike it was for him and claudia. Forcing Armand would make it wrong. He asked Armand to even just come and watch and he didn't want to do that either. Armand wanted plausible deniability.

[@EmbracetheButterfly]

@@_k_n_ exactly! Louis was showing respect and love for Armand here.

[@FrankFreezy_]

I like this a lot

[@sandwichess3539]

i agree for sure! even in 2x5 san fransisco, armand ignores louis begging to be put in the coffin + begging to leave daniel alone for days and days, but when louis brings up sparing daniel as a testament to their companionship, armand then brings out the power exchange of 'are you asking, maitre'. louis has never been in actual control or power at any point in their relationship

[@inuyukiyami]

That last scene of Lestat in the mirror was ... chef's kiss! When I watched that episode and that ending scene came I stayed there and just stared wide eyed at the screen..

[@FrankFreezy_]

@@inuyukiyami what an entrance🔥

[@Phoenixrisen2001]

The way you went through so many emotions in seconds at the end lol

[@FrankFreezy_]

I’m not gonna lie I was excited to see him😂 but also worried AF

[@asavagegarden]

it's totally fine to say "freak" (affectionate)... daniel AND madeleine are both freaks❤ lmao

[@FrankFreezy_]

hehe true that

[@Abby-no7qk]

Absolutely... I was cracking up watching him trying not to be offensive. They're monsterf*ckers and we love them for it ❤

[@lenoraGrayce]

I agree, Frank, that a grown Claudia would have been a much stronger, more formidable Vampire. But remember, her ease into adapting to vampire life, is BECAUSE she was so young when she was turned. She had the hunger and eagerness to learn of a child. Also, she had less experience as a human, so she was much more vampire than she was human. And also, as much as Claudia does not want to pass it on to Madeline, she has Lestat’s blood. And that is Grade A, Premium Vampire blood…which also contributes to how powerful of a vampire she is!

[@falsenostalgia-shannon]

Yes, all of this! I said very similar things out loud while watching, lol. 14 year olds are rather vicious.

[@deureop]

one thing that most reactors don't really seem to take notice of in ep 5 is the little "armand preserves louis' happiness" mantra being repeated word for word at the end. my stomach dropped the first time i heard it because that implies that armand didn't just erase louis' memories, he planted ideas into his head. one of these ideas being "i don't know what's good for me, armand knows best." that's so fucking terrifying to me, like i find that scarier than anything armand does in the whole episode lol

[@squidink3470]

Yep. My blood ran cold at that repeated line.

[@kilbx]

1:03:40 depression, my man went into a numb state seeing the last thread that held him being cut,

[@FrankFreezy_]

fuuuckkk -- and him bleeding through his wrists-- that imagery is so fucked

[@DaysieRose]

Did you catch the bit about Vermouth? (Not a spoiler , don't worry.) I have the Twitter fandom to thank for this lol I'm not that clever. But Armand said "Lestat tasted like vermouth and annihilation". Then Daniel, in this episode, said Armand's drinks had been better because he went heavier on the vermouth. A subtle hint that Armand still yearns for Lestat 😉

[@FrankFreezy_]

niceeee detail

[@scarletshroud]

Great catch with the vermouth! I also thought it was a dig at Armand's subservience and former life as a servant/slave.

[@AnxietyRat]

I also think it is a subtle Devil's Minion hint as well... Because Armand knows EXACTLY how Daniel likes his martinis. Which are ones that are made from a specific bar that he went to.

[@scarletshroud]

@AnxietyRat very good point. Big fan of Devil's Minion of course and there are definitely a lot of references/hints throughout. Season 3 lol

[@jaginaiaelectrizs6341]

It could also have been a subtle dig at how Armand is not enough spice or kick or whatever for Louis; at very least in a meta-sense, for viewers, if not literally within the actual character motivations; if only because Armand, much like Louis, has too often been holding a lot of things back / pretending to either be or not-be many things other than just being openly as he really or truly is. (...while, yes, also maybe hinting that he could perhaps be so for/to/ somebody else..other than Louis.) Louis and Daniel both secretly like/want/crave the vermouth, the annihilation, the "vampire" in it all....even though they don't want to, or don't want to admit that they do. (And probably Armand does too.) Or maybe that's just me and my own thoughts. idekk. Lolll

[@glitterdais2887]

Louis wasn't jealous of Madeline when they were eying each other or when he read her mind about the dead body - he was just questioning what he saw and making sure Claudia wasn't a replacement for Madeline (since as we know since S1 this is a big issue for Claudia since she felt like no one has ever chosen her/ put her first (including Louis himself) . Regarding Louis and Madeline constant eyeing fiasco, is like when someone keeps looking at you and will not look away. This is the case here - Madeline keeps eyeing Louis and Louis keeps looking back at her trying to see what's up. Until Madeline finally tells why she keeps looking at Louis which is she's trying to read his mind - which she can't since he is her maker. She can't read his mind, but she can 'feel' him and his love for other people. When Armand left the table, Madeline asked Louis why doesn't he want Armand to know that he loves him? Season 2 episode 4, Louis told Armand that he loves him in the bedroom scene where soon afterwards, dreamstat laughed and mocked Louis for saying 'I love you' to Armand. So Louis did tell Armand. So why then did Madeline asked Louis why he will not tell "him" that he loves him? That's because the love that Madeline is feeling coming from Louis is not for Armand, but for Lestat. Louis NEVER told Lestat that he loved him (Lestat confirmed this in season 1 episode 5 before he dropped Louis). Notice how when Louis was trying to explain to Madeline why she couldn't read his mind, Louis tried to recite exactly what Lestat told him about the architect of the maker blah blah blah.... he was thinking of Lestat when doing this. Madeline can't read/see his mind, so when she is hearing this explanation from Louis she feels this repressed love Louis has which Madeline thinks it is for Armand since they are companions and also because she never met Lestat and she can't see Louis' mind to see that he is thinking about Lestat during his explanation . This was a very clever subtle way for the audience to catch on that Louis obviously loved Lestat. ** Bonus Note: I apologize for the long comment - just wanted to make sure my explanation was thoroughly written out lol. We, the audience, knows that Louis loves both Claudia and Lestat, yet he never told them that - not even a smudge of something. This is just my opinion, but I believe the reason why is because the last person he said 'I love you' to (Paul) literally died soon after- thus creating this unfortunate traumatic moment for Louis. But he told Armand so easily that he loved him which dreamstat (Louis' thoughts & feelings) laughed at. Like wow, Louis can't say he loves Claudia and Lestat, but he can say it to Armand (especially denying that they were not companions at first)? So what does that mean then.....😉? Ahh the beautiful and clever writing in this show is just ** chef's kiss **. I need season 3 lol!

[@glittermethis]

Great comment, and there are a lot of us that picked up on all of that too.

[@Elle-tb8ti]

I never realized Louis never told them he loved them!! Ur right, he did say it to Armand but u could tell by the way he said it it wasn’t real.

[@PerfectlyImperfect93]

Louis CAN love and be in love with more than one person…

[@evangelinasmusic]

Love this perspective!!

[@winnie_zzzz]

Yes a lot of people miss that Louis first tried to repeat Lestat's exact words while explaining why she can't read his mind. I caught that on my second watch too.

[@agnesr.9627]

Your “HELLO” when Louis said take off your clothes KILLED ME

[@missfrowz21]

@agnesr.9627 same! I laughed so loud. Had to rewind and watch his reaction again coz that's exactly how I reacted the first time I watched it.

[@agnesr.9627]

I just got to your second “hello” at the end of the episode and it was the perfect example of a call back with a completely different meaning. Perfect reaction!

[@agnesr.9627]

@@missfrowz21the second hello got me just as f*cked up hahahahha

[@MariaVitoria-me4tq]

About the dark gift: the older the vampire transforms you is the better, because gifts are awakened as vampires age and some of them are passed on through specific bloodlines, how many fledglings their maker has had and how long the time between transformations were also affects the strength of the vampire fledgling. I've always seen it as if the blood gets diluted the longer it passes down the line.

[@kev2020]

Frank was triggered at 57:10. My boy was about to kick Louis to the curb!!! I know it's serious but I had to chuckle because these dudes will have you feeling BAD for them only to pull stunts like that. Got us feeling mad, sad, and bad in under a minute. 😂

[@TheGiftyK]

Your description of yourself watching your own review is exactly why I love reaction videos. It’s intoxicating watching the facial expressions and confusion lol. Great watch, as usual.

[@booksgurrsandpurrs]

Your reaction had my adrenaline pumping. Seeing Lestat have me chills. Every time you call Daniel David I chuckle.

[@symonew33]

Louis was not eyeing Madeline in a mean or jealous way lol She was eyeing him and he was trying to figure out why she was staring at him and trying to invade his mind.

[@kev2020]

The thing that makes Armand so terrifying is not his power but how sinister he is. The first thing that he said to Louis is "I will not harm you" and then told Daniel "And I never have". He rescues Louis from the sun and then has him lay around in agony despite Louis begging to be placed in his coffin and does not give him his blood which would ease his pain and heal him much faster. Technically Armand has not harmed Louis.

[@evangelinasmusic]

And yet he has caused him so much harm! Ugh I hate Armand lol

[@winnie_zzzz]

Nah Armand never harmed Louis. Just let him get kidnapped by his coven, get beaten up, torture his daughter/sister in front of him, cut his Achilles, and later bury him alive him the coffin. On my second watch, I gave him the biggest side eye when he said "and i never have" with that smile. I think even Louis made a face lmao. The audacity.

[@clefairy7736]

Worst thing about Armand is that I think he genuinely believes he has never harmed Louis. And he doesn't even seem to realize that violating ppl's autonomy is a bad thing...Like I get why he's like that, but it's really frustrating to see lol

[@jaginaiaelectrizs6341]

Yeah, there are some people who have very different ideas about and/or ability to recognize what is and isn't "harm" and why/why-not than other people.😅😅

[@leslygarcia2899]

Hahahaha I am awaiting your reactions for the next episodes with much excitement!

[@FrankFreezy_]

Don’t worry they won’t disappoint 💐🙏🏾

[@bettyerandall2792]

I don’t think Armand was being kind or selfless when he contacted Lestat last episode. I think he was angry and was punishing both Lestat and Louis, while also trying to manipulate Louis into recommitting to their companionship-which Louis did just afterward when saving Daniel. Louis was obviously distressed and didn’t want to speak to Lestat for some reason, and Armand let Lestat believe that Louis was either dead or severely injured and would never know that Lestat loved him.

[@AnxietyRat]

THIS!

[@winnie_zzzz]

I can make sense of him punishing Lestat and Daniel (from his POV) But to do all this to Louis? Someone you claim to love? I get Louis says some hurtful things earlier in the episode (and it was apparently a tri-annual thing for them) but clearly him walking into the sun was a first. No matter how much of an asshole Louis was with his words, he clearly had reached a breakpoint this time. Armand could have confronted him AFTER he was healed. But no. Armand did all this to Louis immediately after Louis tried walking in the sun. When he was at his weakest. Thats like what Lestat did in the pilot. That's just evil. He kept him in the bed and not in the coffin. Didn't gave him his blood at first. Punished Daniel in front of him to taunt his words. Armand is not a saint. He is just more subtle than Lestat. Also, while mind-talking to Lestat earlier, he can be heard saying something like I am with Louis but I won't tell you where. Also, he apparently had a hand in driving Nicky to suicide. Lestat's other ex. That's just another layer of fucked up. But we don't find out about this till 2x07. He called Lestat just to spite him. He was not going re-unite them.

[@jaginaiaelectrizs6341]

​@@winnie_zzzz I mean, he could have waited, sure, but that would have required Armand to have been a much more well-adjusted individual-and Armand is anything but even vaguely well-adjusted. Lol I agree, I think he called Lestat up on purpose because he knew Louis wasn't ready or willing to actually go back to Lestat and pretending to make that possibility a genuine reality would push Louis into pulling hard away from it and drive Louis right back more toward Armand once again. Otherwise, he probably would have told Louis that Lestat said to say ILY to Louis for Lestat. I think Armand was absolutely and deliberately torturing Louis every bit as much as he was torturing Daniel, and refusing to help Louis heal I think was basically Armand's version of when Louis told Claudia to "sit in her choices" or whatever in a previous episode, after she first found out that Armand knew about Lestat being their maker and what they'd done to Lestat before arriving in Europe and got in that big fight with Louis-only infinitely more revengeful. I think Armand wanted Louis to hurt, because Armand is hurt, and he didn't really care that it was at Louis' already lowest point because being at Louis' lowest point only made it all the better a vulnerability to exploit and twist and really make it hurt all the more.

[@glittermethis]

@@jaginaiaelectrizs6341You understand Armand so well. I hope everyone understands him, but still love him and be pissed at him too.

[@jaginaiaelectrizs6341]

@@glittermethis Aw, thanks! (To be fair, I have also read the books, so I'm maybe not the fairest judge of how much or how well all of this is/isn't coming across in the tv series just by itself completely without any book knowledge to help; and maybe I could be misinterpreting some things, possibly, that maybe the tv series wants or intends to be interpreted differently than it might have been if played out in the books. But.... ) That's pretty much my hope too-but, so far, I think the tv show's been doing a pretty great job at this; and I think it will only get better and better about that, the more seasons we get to watch unfold. 😊💖💖

[@jess.alcantara]

We love our boy David Malloy! And your commentaries, no matter the names, Franky! I'll never get over how amazing all this cast is. Every single actor in this show delivered. 'Armand hasn't done the heinous shit yet. The heinous shit was San Francisco'. Oh boy. The showrunners are crazy for how they manage to bring things together!!!! The end of this episode gives me chills because it's so much! I feel personally called out with the 'where do I even start', sir. Now I'm off to watch you Fleabag commentary.

[@mydemonicas]

Honestly I love so much the interactions between daniel and armand in this episode -it's so foreshadowing of what their relationship was, is and will be. I actually loved that you put the point on "he saved you when louis was about to kill you, if you lose him who will save you?" the relationship between them evolves on this, they are the only ones who allow themselves to tease each other so much without having much consequence, it's like in a twisted way where armand does nothing but manipulate the people around him, daniel is the only one with whom at least a part of the mask he wears slips. Showing part of himself without filters. I'm part of the circle of people convinced that there was something between them between san francisco and 1985 (date on which a lighthouse was turned on, the proposal to alice), there are so many clues scattered throughout this second season and i can't wait to see their storyline develop because they are so interesting!!

[@asavagegarden]

it's important to point out that even though lestat's offering of the dark gift to louis was in a iffy situation, lestat cornering louis was rushed by lestat knowing paul (the only person holding him on) was gonna commit suicide. his plan was rushed by this and him showing louis his 'true nature' as vampire, a monster, a predator was on purpose. louis was gonna die that night either way. if he rejected lestat, he was either gonna be killed by lestat o kill himself.

[@shara-v6074]

i mean, lestat could have stopped him from killing himself without turning him then and there. and louis was already seeking help from the priest, lestat just didn't think the priest was good enough. it's not like louis had already tried something and lestat had no choice but to turn him to save his life, he had options. he could have comforted him and watched over him and then given him 'the talk' when he's calmed down and let him really consider the full implications of being turned the way madeleine gets to in this episode.

[@glittermethis]

@@shara-v6074It’s hard to say if that could’ve happened, Lestst comforting Louis. Louis told the Priest that he wanted to die. The situation was dire at that point, and Lestat could read Louis’ mind to know it. I’m not going to discount the talk that Louis and Lestat had in the church…just because it was shown in timelapse and we didn’t hear everything Lestat was saying doesn’t make it any less meaningful. They were talking in the church for a while before Louis accepted the gift. Louis was turned out of love, so much so that he forgot the gruesome scene before him. Madeline‘s turning was done under completely different circumstances. There was love on Claudia’s part (yay for her, finally), but Louis didn’t want to turn her at all.

[@shara-v6074]

@@glittermethis louis says his wish to die seemed unimportant, so lestat already succeeded in that regard. he could have at least let him sleep on it after that. and there's zero indication lestat warned him about anything. louis didn't even know he couldn't walk in the sun anymore, and it certainly seems like it never occurred to him it would cause problems with his family or job or anything. he was woefully unprepared for pretty much every aspect of it. we can make up hypothetical things lestat could have said off screen all day, but in canon all louis says about their 'talk' is that lestat made a really convincing argument, no indication of clarifying questions or counterpoints or even any back and forth conversation, we only saw lestat talking. and nothing in following episodes suggests lestat gave him any additional information. louis forgetting about their surroundings just further shows he wasn't thinking rationally at that moment. hell, those bodies are a pretty big part of being a vampire, and the exact thing he ends up struggling with the most. sure it's all very romantic but that doesn't mean there can't also be glaring problems with it. i don't think it's true that louis didn't want to turn madeleine at all. sure, it's not about madeleine or himself, but he wants to do it for claudia because he loves her and wants her to be happy, and talks about being able to "bring one in a good way" and "it could be beautiful." yes he feels weird about it too, especially afterwards, but he still talks about it in mostly positive terms. and yeah, the circumstances are different, mostly in good ways, that's kind of the point. but it is also an act of love from all parties (just not between louis and madeleine specifically), so that part is still similar to louis's turning. it's a lot like lestat turning claudia for louis, except again, madeleine was able to give fully informed consent to every part of it, and consequently seems to have no regrets afterwards. for the person being turned, it's pretty much presented as the ideal scenario that highlights what went wrong elsewhere.

[@glittermethis]

@@shara-v6074 I’m no longer on my computer, so I can’t respond point by point on my cell. However, nothing you said takes away from anything I said. We don’t know everything Lestat said to Louis in the church because their talk was timelapsed. We can say either way. Louis knows. They were together for over 30 years (in the show), and we don’t know everything that went down between them. It should be obvious by now that Louis doesn’t tell us everything. He says Madeline was brought over by love…as though he wasn’t brought over by love.

[@shara-v6074]

@@glittermethis i mean yeah we can literally say either way about pretty much everything in the show because it's technically it's all just people recounting their memories and it could all be fake. it's something we have to keep in mind, sure. but if we want to actually analyze the events of the show at all, then we kind of have to do it based on what's on screen, including deciding which parts we dismiss as unreliable. i don't see anything in the show that implies that the part of lestat's speech that louis narrated over, included any key piece of information that would meaningfully change anything. if there's something in the next season that implies otherwise, then we'll have actual evidence we can discuss, but at this point i see no reason to assume louis's recounting of that particular event was inaccurate or incomplete in a way that really matters to the story.

[@SaiyanSerenityV]

I so appreciate the way you mentioned the whole "all women are like this and that" thing and how it's bullshit. I'm pretty sure most guys don't realize they are even doing it but it's like using misogyny as a bonding practice or something. Definitely not healthy! It's easy to use your experience and paint with a broad brush but y'all people are just PEOPLE. There's nothing at all that makes all men one thing or all women another. All of our lives and circumstances have too many variables to be pinned down like that. Good stuff 👌

[@mouse2390]

Check Armand's expression after Louis tells him he's going to defy the law then orders him to make sure they're not disturbed---Armand is pissed off.

[@shara-v6074]

yeah i think armand was way more disturbed by the idea of louis turning madeleine than louis realized. not only a vampire turned outside coven control (illegal and bad!) but also armand's whole "vampirism is a curse not a gift" stance which he kind of tries to explain but not fully. louis is pretty much going against his whole worldview there, and so casually too. no coincidence that this is their last conversation before armand makes that fateful choice.

[@sebastianwhosez4897]

I'm so excited for season 3. Your reviews have been so deep in conversations. Even though I've watched season one and two many times over. Re-watching with you, I find or see things I missed or just look at scenes differently or what-not. Continue on, its been a hell of a ride.

[@maevem316]

I always love seeing your appreciation of Claudia & her story in these reactions. This is probably the happiest episode for her (ending... notwithstanding) so it was a reaction I was looking forward to!

[@Echoedfirefly]

Louis not saying I love you pre dates Lestat. The very last time we hear him say it was to Paul in S1.

[@AnxietyRat]

I mean we do technically hear him say it in season 2... But yeah he NEVER verbally said it to Lestat which is an important detail to note.

[@aimeedinov7029]

That was my exact reaction to the preview for the next episode, you’re still reeling from the last scene. It was a lot to process, so I just screech out a “No!” They do such a good job of getting you caught up in it all.

[@justloading]

LMMAAO clothes off face down is diabolical 😂

[@FrankFreezy_]

For real🤯

[@jaginaiaelectrizs6341]

​@@FrankFreezy_ For me, it's not that it was at work or in public view of others, it was the way that in that moment Louis didn't seem to want to genuinely connect or listen to or show any true interest nor engagement with Armand as an actual person or anything that Armand was actually saying right then, really....and that the only way Louis'd even let Armand keep saying anything about any of it at all right then was only if Armand let Louis basically just keep right on not only not listening / not engaging / not taking any interest but also use Armand's body. _^shudders^_ It was very horrifyingly and sadly caught up in Louis and Louis' own self-serving/self-gratifying self interests, in my opinion.

[@scarletshroud]

I am glad that you eat and hydrate before doing these lol. Great point about Louis wanting to be everything for Claudia and he's bothered that he isn't. I think there are parents that struggle with this - not wanting their children to grow up and wanting them to be dependent and be their everything. It's an adjustment when they do grow up and away as they should. And Armand calls him on it in episode 5 - she didn't love you the way he did or I did and Louie heartbreakingly says i know, and then goes into the sun. Yeah. It's all a lot. And here we go with the final two episodes. I will wait with baited breath.

[@teamtaylormom72]

Louis never wanted to make a vampire either, so turning Madeline really hurt his soul. He thought of vampirism as a curse. He only did it for Claudia. He didn’t like feeling that connection to Madeline so he tried to get rid of her blood.🩸

[@BigFanOfManyThings]

Your descriptions are amazing, I totally get it when you say ‘you want more, but where’s the cut off point’, ya know. For vampires, to know when to stop drinking, for us, when we get a really show and it’s just all dropped instead of released one a week. Massive amounts of self control to make a good thing last instead of just have it all coz it’s all there available to us. If we are like that now, what could we possibly think we’d be like as vampires 😅

[@jaginaiaelectrizs6341]

27:33 - So true! This tv series is so good about the times when characters lapse in or out of which languages!!! It's AALLLL in the tiniest little *_details_* sometimes, with this show, honestly! 💖🤍💖

[@aKitti234]

"I thought I'd feel like I was losing Claudia, I did not care" to me kind of reads as Louis being so emotionally fraught that he can't care in that moment. There's SO much that he's lost, and losing Claudia at that point, the last thing he really truly cared about, was just too much for him to deal with. And there's probably also some resentment and confusing feelings regarding Madeleine. Resentment for taking Claudia from him, resentment for loving Claudia better than he could, resentment for them running off to be happy together when he's STILL dealing with the loss of Lestat along with all the other loss in his life. Dealing with the feelings of being a maker now and thinking of his own maker. And he's just so over feeling all of this. Louis is probably one of my favorite characters of all time

[@glittermethis]

Great comment!

[@murfeel1173]

Frank, don't even worry about not catching things the 1st time around. I've seen this show a million times frame by frame and I still miss things. You are my favorite IWTV reactor; cuz you stop and THINK and EMPATHIZE; it's so refreshing. Thank you for these long videos!

[@Glo419]

You were so funny, mouth dropped when Louis told Armand to get in the coffin face down lmao. I love Claudia & Madeline! Okay, no spoilers but make sure you have kleenex & a good alcoholic drink watching these last two episodes.

[@scarletshroud]

It's been months and I can't stop thinking about Episide 5. I love watching people react to it. I haven't watched this yet - just starting and just by the caption my heart is already breaking for you. Catch you at the end if the reaction to see how you're doing.

[@eeggie]

Madeleine is an incredible vampire

[@valentin1402]

18:55 "i cant wait to see lestat again" well.. ask and you shall receive ig 😭

[@Soph-u8d]

I disagree with your take on that Louis/Armand park scene. I don’t think Armand was genuinely asking for clarification, I think he was daring Louis to make the choice for him, knowing he would probably not. I think, while yes Louis is disappointed because Armand can’t do even this one thing for him without leaning on their dom/sub dynamic, he still understands where Armand’s obsessive need to appear (emphasis on appear) helpless and under his power comes from (trauma❤), and he reassures Armand that he doesn’t have to do it and he won't be forced. I think Armand was genuinely panicked in that scene and needed to be reassured that it was ok if he didn’t want to do something, mixed with that manipulative submissive spice that he brings to all of his interactions with Louis. (which i love by the way and find endlessly fascinating, most psychologically intriguing dynamic on the show imo!) But yeah i thought Louis actually acted in a very patient and caring way in that scene, if maybe with a hint of exasperation towards Armand’s various coping mechanisms and issues

[@AnxietyRat]

Yeah, I definitely agree with your interpretation of that scene more than other people I've seen talk about their interpretations.... I think Armand has been running off of trauma responses for hundreds of years at this point.. so I don't necessarily agree with others when they say he's being like maliciously manipulative... Like yeah of course it is manipulation...but I absolutely agree that hes acting the way that he is because of his past. 100%. I also find their dom/sub dynamic absolutely FASCINATING... Extremely unhealthy and unsustainable but fascinating nonetheless... And I mean honestly I didn't really expect much better from Gothic Romance... You can't really expect healthy out of the genre. 😂 But yeah I can only imagine how often Armand was not treated very nicely after refusing to do something he's been asked to do by someone who held power over him... So I also think it was a defense mechanism he really went hard into their dom/sub dynamic in a way that I think made Louis uncomfortable and disappointed... Because Louis seems to like it in the bedroom only and doesn't like 24/7 stuff, from how he reacted. He like immediately recoiled and left quickly... He was like "no, we're actually not going to play that game regarding this decision." Lmao. Which is also a completely valid reaction but yeah that scene is so... Juicy. There's SO much going on in regards to why the characters reacted the way that they did.

[@Soph-u8d]

@@AnxietyRat Yes to ALL of this. But don't get it twisted i ALSO think Armand can be maliciously manipulative haha, like how he acted in episode 5 - calling Lestat when Louis was at his most vulnerable and masking it as an '"act of service", seemingly almost punishing Louis for attempting suicide (not putting him in the coffin, making him feel guilty etc). Of course it all stems from somewhere, and I truly think Armand is the most beyond help fucked up individual on this show unfortunately, but it doesn't make it any less malicious. But I love to hate watching it! like you said, it's all so juicy. Delicious emotional complexity and unhealthy relationships!!!

[@evangelinasmusic]

1:13:50 the look of absolute betrayal….. yyyyup And then to the surprise of seeing Lestat. Yup!!! lol that’s all imma say

[@angelaholmes8888]

You are right about claudia and the problems of being a child vampire

[@tdali8347]

Dude, I know you love Armand, but how could you not recognize the betrayal of him freezing the restaurant so Santiago and crew could kidnap Louis, Claudia, and Madeline?

[@HuntingViolets]

I'm not sure Lestat liked being a vampire at first.

[@AnxietyRat]

Yeah, he pretty clearly said in season 1 that he did NOT have a good time at the very beginning of him becoming a vampire... He really really did NOT not like it... But he was able to adapt quickly.

[@Phoenixrisen2001]

I understand Madeline's reaction technically Claudia is her only friend and she was protecting her. Madeline's life sucks she wasnt making money and had nobody.

[@FrankFreezy_]

I feel that

[@yeehaw4775]

2x05 and 2x06 are my two favorite episodes from this entire series. just beautiful work.

[@aKitti234]

Also, at the restaurant when Madeleine asks Louis why she can't read his mind, he starts saying "the architects of our, uh..." and cuts himself off. This is a callback to what Lestat said to him in answer to the same question in season 1!! "The architects of our creation mean to humble us." SO, Lestat was on his mind. Then almost immediately, Madeleine asks him why he doesn't want Armand to know he loves him. BUT Louis HAS told Armand "I love you"! I really think she was actually feeling Lestat in that moment and thought she was feeling Armand, and that's who Louis is hiding and ashamed of his love for even after all this time.

[@valentin1402]

"why are they not running at the sight of these vampires covered in blood?" they're freaks hope this helps, this coming from a freak who would also not run if a hot vampire came my way

[@AnxietyRat]

28:32 I mean I don't think it's a matter of them caring or not about it.... Armand mentioned earlier in the season that he had had sex with a good number of the theater troupe already... So him having sex with his current companion probably wasn't that shocking to them to see because they've... seen it all before!

[@shara-v6074]

we also saw eglee giving santiago head in the green room, audience members hooking up before a play, and sam picking up a used condom. and armand said he fucked that father-son duo in the back of a cinema... public sex is just the norm in that coven it seems

[@jaginaiaelectrizs6341]

​@@shara-v6074 Yeah, but we don't know if Armand played submissive to anybody else in the coven, and the fact that it's essentially with a rogue vampire specifically and not a coven member I'm sure ruffles quite a few more feathers than just the sex itself.

[@shara-v6074]

@jaginaiaelectrizs6341 oh for sure. santiago makes fun of him for it later and likely sees it as more 'proof' armand is weak and not fit to lead

[@Asmrluvr8]

No spoilers but the next two episodes made me cry SO MUCH!! Looking forward to your reactions to those episodes! ❤

[@sbs19982]

Actually, Louis did say i love you to Armand (and dreamstat made fun of them). So Madeleine saying "why dont you tell him?" makes no sense if shes sensing the love that he has for Armand.....but maybe shes sensing another love...one he didnt say i love you to...one that seconds before he almost quoted (and cut himself when he looked at Armand).

[@juliec8090]

I think it's more about him being emotionally withholding than saying the words themselves. He can say it, but it always sounded empty cause he still had his guard up. Armand didn't believe Louis loved him, but honestly I think it's more painful if he actually did love him, or was finally allowing himself to... and then The Betrayal happens.

[@sbs19982]

@@juliec8090 The betrayal could also be him saying "i love you" out loud, empty, as you said. But guarding the truth "i love you" that he never said, the i love you to Lestat. Makes sense if Armand heard Madeleine talk about this and was like "wait. he did say i love you to me. what feeling is she sensing?" and then he decides to go own with the plan out of spite. And even if Louis started to open up, Armand never knew. As Assad said, it's hard for Armand to think about his relationship with Louis without the presence of Lestat (in both of their lives). It was all doomed.

[@SharonLeggett]

Frank, after you're done with the series, will you do a reaction to the season 3 trailer? PLEASE? You've got me re-watching Hannibal too!

[@FrankFreezy_]

@@SharonLeggett I did it week ago. It’s on Patreon. Also did some other cast interview reactions. I’ll try upload them on KZbin after the series is done.

[@nimue23]

In regards to Louis and saying “I love you”….. the only time we’ve heard him say it was to Paul. And then Paul jumped off the roof. Pretty son after Louis was turned and frozen in time with all the trauma of that. There has to be PTSD involved in that phrase

[@AnxietyRat]

I mean to be fair in this season he has ALSO said it to Armand.... But there is one specific person who he never verbally said it to..... And so Madeline was most likely talking about the person who he has never actually verbally said it to, Lestat... not Armand.

[@nimue23]

@ very true, though I do wonder about the feeling behind his I love you to Armand, as we also never saw him say it to Claudia. His I love you to Armand felt more like a jab at dreamstat. I do think that Madeline was feeling his love for Lestat as you said

[@jaginaiaelectrizs6341]

​@@nimue23 To me, it always felt less like a jab at Dreamstat and more like what he felt like he needed to do in that moment to appease Armand. If that makes sense? But, I dunno, maybe that's just me.😅🙃🤔🤷🤷‍♀️🤷🏻‍♂️ IDKK. Lol

[@ShelbyBaby27]

Louis' description of turning Madeline made me wonder what Lestat saw when he turned Louis and Claudia. May explain some things..

[@Obsessed.Since_2010]

Your reaction to the lestat reveal 💀 SHIT IS GETTING CRAAAZZZYYYYY, I am SO excited to see your reactions to the final eps

[@erick7895]

18:20 i honestly feel that a considerable part of the fans make a point of feeling empathy for lestat and armand at the expense of crucifying Louis in his own tragic story, even misusing the unreliable narrator point

[@FrankFreezy_]

100%. It's unfortunate. They ignore so many moments of Louie genuinely trying to remember, getting emotional while he remembers, being accountable for where he's wrong, advocating to hell and back for lestats behavior. But all that empathy vanishes when it comes to louis. And honestly, I know that there are many reasons for that which may include things like implicit bias as a result of racism and anti-blackness. But that is something I will address more in my season reviews

[@alinnnnnnnnnnnn]

you are so on spot with armand having no sense of identity and needing a maitre... his own trauma and backstory is so heavy and f-up and he never got to experience affection, love, care without manipulation and control or violence. he literally only knew being stripped of agency for most of his human life, as we learned in ep.4 (and i am sure we will learn more of it in s3). he wants love, but does not know how to get it without the control and manipulation. this is also why, i think, he does not really see an issue in manipulating louis or lying to him, cause that is just what love is to him, unfortunately: a gamble in looking for something or someone who might help him survive, no matter the cost.

[@PerfectlyImperfect93]

Yes at work! There’s nothing wrong with face down ass up! Fuck that coven 😂😂😂

[@Elodiron]

I find that I learn a lot from you. Your reactions seem thoughtful and compassionate with healthy boundaries. Listening to you makes me want to be a better person 💚

[@FrankFreezy_]

@@Elodiron wow much love to you. Thanks❤️I’m glad we all have this community to share

[@ravenblack942]

In San Francisco Louis is a depressed not wanting to be here drug addicted vampire- He picks up men who are seeking to score plies them with narcotics & drinks them unalive empty. Recreating the drug addled state of Lestat in NOL before Louis ends him. Louis is high when he tells Armand he’s boring and high when he walks in the sun. Armand has been keeping Louis sober pacified & alive for decades.

[@CocaInn3799]

🫀🩸🌻. Assad has said that one of his favourite scenes was the one with Madeleine ^^.

[@orangemarmalade77]

Oh my goodness, another great reaction. I felt so bad watching you watch the end, as what was happening became clear. Can't wait for your reaction to the next one

[@Obsessed.Since_2010]

27:55 the shock I’m sobbing💀

[@jaginaiaelectrizs6341]

36:40 - Well, the books were Gothic Horror, but the tv series definitely plays the Romance subplots up even further for sure! So, I'd say yeah, it is-or, at the very least in some parts, close enough! (But maybe that's just me....I don't know what genres they have it officially billed/marketed/whatever as or not though.) 🤷 🙂

[@abbyj4108]

21:40 I love Louis but he’s definitely got his mother’s mean streak, knows exactly what comment to make to bring someone down just like her in season 1

[@jaginaiaelectrizs6341]

26:04 - Yeah, I think Louis 100% definitely experienced a 'Freeze' response, as Lestat was walking back across that church toward him. (I mean, he'd tried fighting first, and then he watched that last priest try running, all to absolutely zero avail....so literally all that was left then was either freeze and/or fawn.) And then that whole "I love you" / "be all the things you are and be them unapologetically" speech just sounded so much better to him than his human life as it had been before that and whisked him away with that moment not realizing that he and Lestat had two very different ideas about what unapologetically and/or all the things he was even were or should be.😅😅

[@evrmor3]

amazing reaction frank i really love your videos, when i see the notification i just clean my schedule to watch it with calm and really paying attention to what you say! ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@FrankFreezy_]

💐💐💐💐🧡🧡🧡🧡

[@amritadas8331]

Hey, I've really enjoyed your reactions & theories until now, but when you said Louis was envious of how different Madeleine's transformation was from his.. I don't think that's true at all.

[@jaginaiaelectrizs6341]

50:23 - You know what, I kinda miss it when you're not accidentally calling him 'David', it's basically nostalgic memorabilia or something at this point; it's okay!.🤭🤭 💖🤭

[@FrankFreezy_]

lol😂😂💐💐🧡🧡🧡🧡

[@evenstarari]

My jaw absolutely dropped when I saw Santiago passing Armand. "He chose." like what a gut punch to hear those words! Like you said, there are reasons why Louis would want the memories from San Francisco to be erased but in my heart I really don't feel like he asked. I think Armand was worried Louis may attempt to walk into the sun again and wanted to prevent that but I would love to see if that gets addressed again bc we truly don't know. Loved your analysis of Claudia and Madeleine's turning

[@mahitoapologist]

I like how you mentioned that Madelein was so scared that she reverted back to speaking french and how that is something ppl who speak more than one language do and its soooo accurate. and its funny because my actual first language is spanish but im a point in my life where my english is way better than my mother tongue so in my case when i get freaked out or mad or whatever i actually revert back to english rather than spanish. im sure this happens to other ppl who have a similar relationship with their first and second language. but yeah i just like that you mentioned that. also, as much as i personally dont like louis with armand, i think their dom/sub relationship is fascinating. as you said, armand is clearly the more powerful vampire of the two, the older of the two and yet here he is willingly surrendering power to louis, he's submitting himself to him. i feel like it's actually a testament of how strong he is because he's been a force to reckon with for over five centuries, he's used to being strong and powerful and in charge. and yet again, he chooses to submit to louis. i feel like him giving up control is a respite for him. whenever he is with louis and under louis' command, he doesn't have to think for himself, he doesn't have to make decisions, he doesn't have to command others or be responsible for others, or even himself. he just has to follow along. it's like, it gives him a break from the pressure of who he is, of the power he holds. and on the other hand, this must also be a nice change up for headstrong louis who was used to submitting to lestat, sometimes willingly, sometimes not. so in that sense, their relationship during that time makes a lot of sense.

[@ac85450]

Re: him "not feeling anything" about Claudia leaving-- i think it had more to do w his horror at the overwhelming intimacy he felt w his new blood fledgling Madeleine-- a stranger. And maybe mixed in with it is a new understanding of what Lestat must feel as maker of both him and Claudia, whom he's often probably felt he didn't "love enough"-- like not to make it about Lestat obviously, but maybe he's realizing that while Lestat didn't love them 'well" or "nicely" and was especially cruel to Claudia at times, he still had this irrepressible, primal love for them, which makes everything so much worse 😭 . Because if you loved us like that, how could you drop me from the fucking sky and then abuse Claudia like you did?? Probably gave him questions of what all else he misinterpreted, which of course is part of grieving a relationship that's ended but x100 with a relationship where you just "unalived" the other one. He's probably wondering if this reinforced how he's just fundamentally broken, too, and never knew how to love, which was an insecurity Dreamstat revealed in ep 3, I think. Just like he "never knew how to be a real vampire" according to the entire coven and even Lestat and Claudia at times. It could also be interpreted as Postpartum depression, perhaps. I interpret Armand's visceral aversion to making another vampire as a variation of being sex-repulsed which some asexuals experience-- or afraid of pregnancy. This interpretation is also interesting given how basically none of Armand's human or vampire life revolved around his own desires and his body being his own-- intimacy and responsibility was forced on him way too often, so it makes sense he would be horrified and repulsed at the idea of creating such a relationship with someone else. Your FACE when Louis said "clothes off, face down in the coffin" 🤣 And then again when we see Lestat at the end. Armand and Louis' Dom/sub relationship is so interesting. I think Armand feels like he needs a Maître and kind of wants Louis to be these things for him--it's the kind of love he understands and he has also been primed to be turned on by it from childhood, unfortunately. I think Louis' use of Armand's first name, Arun, and the way he tries to take care of Armand is very tender and he tries to wield the power given to him in a healing way, even tho he's so broken himself. I think Armand asking if he's making him do something took Louis aback, because he didn't think Armand would think that of him, and that's not the type of person he's trying to be, nor the person he truly is. Like he can turn it on and off in a kink context or when he's feeling threatened or for survival when he was a pimp in New Orleans, but he's not a naturally domineering person and is much more likely to be manipulated by others. Like you pointed out, he can manipulate, but it's not like he does it for malicious reasons or with violence when he's in his right mind. Even when he was a pimp, he was on a friendly basis w the girls who worked for him and his method of competing with other businesses was always through smarts and resourcefulness rather than by throwing his weight around. Like he was excited talking about bringing a "baby" into the world (Louis really needs to stop demanding babies from his husbands/bfs whenever he's going through things, lmaoo-- THERAPY, my brutha), and doing it in a good way so he could get to see someone be sired into vampirism surrounded by unambiguous love. But Armand could only think about how he didn't want to be part of this (for personal reasons and thinking about the coven, too, probably) and dug his heels in the dirt as if Louis was wanting this to hurt him. I also think it's possible Armand UNO-reversed some of the responsibility he felt for refusing and making it so Louis and Claudia had to perform the turning by acting the victim with that question. I love Armand, and he so often has been a victim that I can't even blame him too much for his defense mechanisms, but UGH, I feel for Louis in their relationship because Armand is so slick with it. Ep 5, Armand acts like he's trapped him with unconditional love, but he withholds the coffin, which accelerates vampiric healing, until days later when Louis BEGGING, and he gives him only a little of his blood, which would again have accelerated his healing. He like made the whole apartment a Saw trap to psychologically torture him as punishment for things he said when Louis was strung out, largely bc of his own feelings of inadequacy. And then when Louis can walk again, he puts back on the demure and subservient act. Louis sees through the act which is why he asked him "which one is it tonight? Do you want to lick my boots or cut my hands off? Is it the gremlin or the good nurse tonight?" because the thing that leaps out of Armand when he's pressed and not trying to play house is UGLY, but Armand likes to act like he doesn't have that side to him. He likes to give the appearance that if he does act a little out of character of course it's only bc of his trauma and "he couldn't prevent it". But even his periods of acts of service and apparent kindness, which can stretch on and on unbroken, is a long game, and I think THAT's what Louis was sick of, because here Louis is BARELY COPING, fucking strangers (with his Catholic, waited to go all the way w Lestat until they were married, ass 😂) and drinking drug blood every week, and he's so obviously in PAIN and he can feel that Armand is desperate to be enough--if not straight up demanding to be enough. Maybe he wishes Armand could be enough, but it's hard to even say the words or have that conversation when Armand is looking to him, putting him on a conditional pedestal (even as he constantly is subtly flexing his power on him), simperingly calling him Maître, and cleaning up his messes "with mop and mindlessness" expressly so that Louis will say "oh, Armand, you fixed me! Thank you so much! You're everything I ever wanted and needed and I'm yours forever." But Louis can't say that. And when Armand heard the tapes and saw just how much Not Over Lestat he was, he lost his cool. Another thing-- he acted like he was going to leave him there, but his ass wasn't gonna leave-- he was torturing Louis w the idea that Lestat could come and see him (when we hear his sneaky ass tell Lestat he's not gonna tell him the location) when he's at rock bottom after not having seen him in 70 years, burnt to a crisp and sheepishly coming off the self-righteous high of eviscerating him with many a hateful embellishment to some college-aged boy. He wanted to devastate, horrify, and humiliate him and make Louis feel desperate for Armand to stay. Louis was begging him not to call him and Armand just ignored him like, "shut up and drink this nasty medicine." UGH. the more i think about it the more he gives me the shivers and his actions make me sick to my stomach. I felt worst for Louis in ep 5 for sure, even tho i felt a whole lot of sorrow for Armand and his fears of being abandoned and his worst traumas being thrown in his face. He couldn't even finish telling Daniel his earliest memories because it was too much and Louis just pulled out the box containing his life as a sex slave and threw it at him like it was nothing, with his coked up ass. 😭😢 Self-sabotage and misdirected anger and disgust in equal measure. Anyway, as always, I love your reactions. 💜 You and FoxTaco are such positive representations of men. I loved what you said about your wife not being an exception to women and how you shut down guys who say stuff like that and who act like women are just lowkey evil and shallow and gold diggers or whatever the popular red pill narrative is. Us Black women especially get the worst end of the stick and it's always heartening to hear Black men stand up for us with genuine love and understanding and allyship, like you do with Claudia, for example. Not to mention, I love how openly chill, down, and enthusiastic you are about the queerness of this show. I can tell it come from a real, genuine, warm place that's so not performative, and I really really appreciate that. It literally heals me in real time lol. And I can't wait to see your Hannibal reaction, my goshhhh. When I get money I'm gonna have to get your patreon so i can see these 3 hour vids lmaoo, I'm intrigued!!!

[@tariniagarwal5252]

popular opinion, claudia and madeleine's relationship BY FAR the healthiest, also they could have prolly made it, like had an eternal good life together

[@rlunafernandez8951]

✨ Most excellent reaction. The amazing thing about this adaptation is that even if you’ve read the book it’s completely fresh. Knowing the outcome of the story makes little difference in my appreciation. Those screenwriters, those actors and Rolind J! Whew. ⚡️

[@ravenblack942]

@FrankFreezy_ 🤭 your reaction 27:55 - 28:30 ❤ love it 🙌🏾

[@francisca2896]

Next episode please pay attention to Lestat’s appearance and his body language.

[@glittermethis]

At work, but rolling through with a like and a quick comment or 2🤫. I’ll watch it later when I can relax and enjoy ❤

[@FrankFreezy_]

Sounds good enjoy🧡🧡

[@jfdhhjkgy]

Only Madeleine and Louis made(turned into vampire) of love. Other vampires in this series don't give their consent. Louis never say l love you back to the people he truly love because the last person he said I love you and meant it jumped off the roof. Rip Paul.

[@petalstt45]

1:14:36 DADDY'S HOME!!! 🎉🎉🎉😂

[@Taglilie88]

1:10:50 Louis left/killed lestat for Claudia , he did not really want to do that and now she is leaving him for her person and that is just bringen back that he left his person. And sorry Armand you are not enouth

[@angelaholmes8888]

Yep lestat was Louis person

[@moderndaymedusa82]

I don't think Armand contacted Lestat out of kindness when Louis was recovering from being burned. He was doing it to hurt Louis. Armand was being cruel to everyone in that room and when he was done torturing Louis and Daniel, he made them both forget.

[@mitchmatt6002]

Don't have much time to leave a more deserving comment, but want to give a brief opinion on some of your queries, so forgive the tick list of out-of-sequence replies here! 😅 *Imo*.....1) Lestat's impulsivity and fear over Louis' life-ending thoughts played a part in his desperate persuasion, so giving Louis a few hours (let alone days) to contemplate his proposal wasn't an option for him 2) The love Madeleine 'felt' within Louis wasn't for Armand but Lestat (and I agree with the general consensus that Paul's death having said ILY is at the root of his reluctance to say it out loud again), 3) Louis' participation in Madeleine's turning was done out of recognition that Claudia deserved her choice, that didn't mean he appreciated the unwanted 'connection' of a fledgling he felt obliged to create, hence the blood letting (which could also be an attempt to 'feel something,' given his explanation to Armand), 4) I saw Loumand's exchange in the park prior to Madeleine's turning as manipulation on both sides tbh - Armand wanted an excuse to be absent (bc it's breaking coven law) so he used the 'is that an order or an ask' line to prompt Louis into excusing him, while Louis' confident belief that Armand 'was his' to control meant he just needed Armand to keep the coven occupied while he knowingly broke one of rules! Aside from that, LOVED your shocked disbelief at Armand's 'choice' and the jaw-dropping appearance of one Monsieur de Lioncourt! And just to randomly put it out there.(not because of anything specific that's been said, just a need to mention)...in a fandom seemingly obsessed with ship/character wars (the bane of fandom everywhere), even though Loustat and Lestat are my faves respectively, I adore and appreciate the layers behind each of these complex characters, and can love/hate/empathise/pity them all at different times - and feel no need to pit one against the other, or justify and excuse poor choices/behaviour when it happens, because all of these vampires have tragedy and trauma in their lives. So please don't think all devotees of certain characters are as blinkered or biased against other ones as some that can occasionally be found in the comments! 😏 Ok, vent over, apologies for the rambling! Great reaction - can't wait for the next one! 💜💮

[@AnxietyRat]

Yeah, there are plenty of people within this fandom that are essentially multi-shippers. They ship a bunch of different couples in the show. I'm also one. Each relationship has its interesting dynamics in this show, for sure.

[@mitchmatt6002]

@@AnxietyRat With so many intriguing and contrasting personalities, who can blame you? 😉

[@jaginaiaelectrizs6341]

​@@mitchmatt6002 Right!?! I basically just ship almost everyone with literally almost everyone, too. 😅 😂😂

[@jaginaiaelectrizs6341]

23:19 - EXCEPT that, for Armand, it was never really about saving Daniel....or else he wouldn't have done it with such an unceremonious wet-thud, hurling Daniel across the room away from Louis, not really giving a rip what actually happened to Daniel or not, followed by a huge blowout fight with Louis, and then days of torturing Daniel culminating ultimately in Armand was going to just kill Daniel himself UNTIL Louis finally mustered up enough strength to barge in and actually save Daniel from Armand.😅😅🙃👀🫣😅😐 Also, it was daylight, Louis could have fallen asleep right next to Daniel's body-Louis wouldn't have known or been able to defend himself if Daniel had somehow survived and crawled away from Louis if the sun-sleep had taken Louis mid-drink, or if anyone else had walked in on their bodies together on that floor for any reason. 😅😅😅

[@priscillamcrmy]

"are you asking or making me?" fucks me up for lots of reasons, but louis is not being slimy, he is trying to be good!! armand obviously does not want to be involved in turning madeline, he made it pretty clear. louis would like for him to be there, so he invites him and armand refuses. but armand it not used to having his boundaries respected, if louis said he was not asking then armand would be there againt his will. louis is pretty disappointed by armand's refusal, he is sad and it shows, but he respects him and says it's okay. and poor armand is so not used to people respecting his boundaries he interprets louis refusal to force him as a rejection. it's just heartbreaking and i get why louis is sad in that moment!! he is really actually trying to commit to armand and start a familly (louis needs to stop baby trapping insane man but thats a different conversation). he knows he is about to lose claudia, and he wants his companion there. but armand refuses and louis is not gonna force him, he respects him wishes

[@SIMMIS_0316]

I think especially in the beginning Louis relationship with Armand brought out their pasts. Louis past as a pimp and Armand's past as well.

[@jaginaiaelectrizs6341]

26:56 - I do kinda wonder though why BOTH Claudia and Madeleine, basically the only two most primary female characters so far, have been assaulted in that very particular way. Wouldn't it have been enough just for them to have been violently/physically assaulted, in general, even if not in that specific manner? I mean, I know it's a very real issue, but sometimes I just want to be able to see female characters going through other shite and maybe not always having to go through that in particular-especially when it's not always highlighted as much that it can also be an issue for guys, as well, because the victim is never really the true fault it's the perpetrators. If that makes sense.🙃😅😶 (and it feels kinda weird and wrong to say, "well, maybe it'll even out as the tv series continues to progress".....because I don't know if that's really the 'solution' or what I even actually want to see or not either ?? IDEKK)

[@Phoenixrisen2001]

Its kind of like the show is a quick commercial during the movie that is you.

[@evrmor3]

well frank i must say this is the first time i disagree with an opinion of yours 😅 but yeah as you said this is your fresh out reaction

[@HuntingViolets]

Is that Anna May Wong in a hand mirror in the art on the right (your left)?

[@FrankFreezy_]

I don’t think so. It’s an album cover from the artist HONNE

[@HuntingViolets]

@@FrankFreezy_ Looking at the album, it doesn't look like Wong. Maybe the angle on the wall or something, although tricky with art. Thanks.

[@ilangal4life07]

🙌🏾

[@juliec8090]

I love this episode so much. Claudia and Madeleine, my loves, they deserve the world!! And Louis getting to see Claudia through Madeleine's eyes was such a beautiful moment. Our girl Claudia deserves someone who puts her first. I interpret the "are you asking or telling" thing as Armand genuinely not believeing that has agency (he obviously DOES have, but he's convinced he doesn't). He does whatever's expected of him, goes with the path of least resistance, and doesnt interpret it as making a choice cause he doesnt know how to do anything else. What a mess. 🤣

[@jangiefan]

I have always gotten the ick from Madeline. It gives predator. Claudia is meant to look like a fourteen year old aka when she was turned. Madeline even mentions her young appearance when they first meet. Claud doesn't age so this woman is attracted to her in that way? I just wonder if Bailey was still portraying the character would they have gone with the book version, in that Madeline was a companion/mother figure.

[@glittermethis]

I know people want to think Claudia would’ve been happy with Madeleine, but I believe it would only be temporary happiness. Their happiness would always be marred by how the outside world views Claudia as a child/teenager. She hated being infantilized, and she would have to pretend to be something other than Madeleine’s companion in public. That would grate on her nerves after awhile. This is why she is such a tragic character because she was doomed from the start.

[@jaginaiaelectrizs6341]

​@@glittermethis But that is literally the opposite of what happened with Madeleine and Claudia? Madeleine was attracted to Claudia for Claudia's personality, not Claudia's body. Madeleine initially did not take Claudia seriously, because of Claudia's body, but there more they got to know each other the more that Madeleine came to appreciate and respect who Claudia was having nothing at all to do with Claudia's body. And Madeleine was the one person who accepted that Claudia's body was the body of an adult whose development had been stunted due to poor nutrition or whatever during a harsh wartime environment, rather than literally believed it was a child's body, and probably never would have forced Claudia to pretend to be a child when they traveled together-probably would never have forced Claudia to play the masquerade to "blend in" amongst humans in any way that Claudia did not personally wish or choose to do. And once Madeleine began to become suspicious and think it truly unusual or odd beyond explanation or too difficult to believe, that was when Madeleine finally learned the true explanation, being actually Claudia's vampirism-meaning that, in spite of Claudia's body, Claudia truly was a grown woman in a body that too young for who she really was inside of it exactly as Claudia had claimed(just if for a slightly different more supernatural reason). They wouldn't have to pretend shite, because they could just eliminate every human in their way or manipulate every human's mind. If it wouldn't have been sustainable in the longterm, it probably would have been because sooner or later they might have been overwhelmed by humans turning on them for being monstrous because of not even really trying to blend in enough, or because of other vampires taking issues with how little they ever even tried to fly under or apart from the human radar. Madeleine and Claudia both were always far less compelled than either Louis or Lestat to continue trying to co-exist within a more human framework. Louis and Lestat ran into issues because of outside/human perceptions, not because they literally needed to attend human things like operas and such or blend in like that, but because they wanted to-it would probably be much less of an issue for vampires, like Claudia and Madeleine, who didn't really even want to. But maybe that's just me, idk.

[@glittermethis]

@@jaginaiaelectrizs6341 Oh, hi 🙋🏾‍♀️ True, Mads doesn’t have an issue with Claudia’s body. I agree with all the points you made. However, I still stand by my point as well. Claud & Mads need money to survive. Lestat had money so there was no need for him to work, he was just social. Louis is a business man to his core, so he’s always going to be able to obtain money. Claud & Mads need money to survive, and they need to somehow interact with humans for it. They don’t have trust funds to live off. One of them will need to have a stream of income for housing, clothes and travel. Claudia likes going to the cinema and listening to music. She would be “outside” as Louis would say, and Mads would look like a chaperone or a guardian with her. The general public will not see Claud as an adult. And she would eventually become frustrated by that. It’s an internal struggle that being with Mads can’t fix, unfortunately. It’s how I feel 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@jaginaiaelectrizs6341]

@@glittermethis Fair enough-I s'pose that's not totally impossible, especially the closer and closer to the 21st Century they'd gotten, with all its security cameras and all and such always watching everything. I just quibble a little I guess, wondering exactly how much vampires actually do in fact need money or not, since they have other ways of getting or just taking basically anything they want which humans don't have.🤔😅 It's difficult to really say for absolutely sure and certain without actually getting the chance to see it play out. And that's the real tragedy of it, for me, I guess-the fact that they'll never get the chance to either succeed or fail by their own merits, either way.

[@pliedwoodert2474]

saw your artwork behind you. what is your favourite Kendrick Lamar album?

[@FrankFreezy_]

Maybe it's just recently bias but I fuck with Mr morale heavy. What about yours?

[@pliedwoodert2474]

@@FrankFreezy_ i'm torn between gkmc and mr morale. i love how all his albums are so different from each other

[@sookie9622]

looove this episode, and the louis and madeleine conversation about why he doesn't want armand to know how much he loves him is such a big discourse starter, because most people believe Madeleine actually felt louis' love for lestat, since louis did told armad he loves him and we even saw a scene where dreamstat laugh at louis when he says it, but he actually never told lestat he loved him and once again we saw a scene where dreamstat tells louis "i told you i loved you and you said nothing" as if louis is regretful of it. i guess you can interpret that scene however you want but it really speaks on the hard work the writers are putting into this script that we can really be talking for hours about every single detail of it

[@shara-v6074]

dreamstat didn't laugh when louis said it but when armand did. at louis saying it he just made a pissed off "gasp" face. i think louis saying "i love you" to armand while still trying to hide the extent of how much makes perfect sense. he's trying not to repeat the mistake he made with lestat so he says it out loud, but still manages to fall back into the same old habit of hiding his feelings in other ways. and then that's what leads to armand assuming louis must not have really meant it, just like lestat who ditched him a week after saying those words. so he chooses the coven that was there for him after losing lestat. and then he hears that from madeleine right when it's too late, and knows louis's never gonna feel the same way again after this. that's a way sadder and more interesting story to me than louis just never loving armand at all.

[@jaginaiaelectrizs6341]

​@@shara-v6074 Although, to be fair, Louis is also saying it kind of specifically to try and soothe away the sting of having said they weren't companions which obviously bothered Armand(almost like "it's okay whether we're actually 'companions' or not, right, because..we love each other' ? Or something? )....so, in some way, Louis was almost pressured or manipulated into saying it before he was truly ready to say it yet whether he genuinely felt it or not. He also not really say it with his whole chest, if you watch his facial expressions and body-language and listen close to his vocal tone / delivery. It's pretty weak and squirmy, imo, whether it was a lie or the truth; not the most reassuring thing, for sure, especially considering the context in which it came up. (If that makes sense😅)

[@shara-v6074]

armand talking to madeleine is one of my favorite scenes in the whole show. he walks in there expecting and hoping he'll be able to say no because madeleine isn't cut out of immortality, but then madeleine not only has all the right answers but they also end up connecting on a level he never expected. he too thought of himself as monstrous when he was human, saw and experienced great horror and suffering, had to adapt not to a new era but a whole different culture and language, and it all gave him the tools to survive as long as he has. and the question of how she'll go on after claudia "inevitably" throws herself into the fire has to have been on his mind because it applies to louis too. would armand be enough for louis to survive it? the scene encaspulates so many of the themes of the show too, it's like a thesis statement on what this series has to say about vampires and immortality. and of course it's so beautifully written and shot and acted too.