Best EDC Pistol EVER?! Walther PDP - EDC Upgrades | Detailed Installation

Watch as Andrew takes a stock PDP and adds New Iron Sights, a Red Dot & the Walther Dynamic Performance Trigger. Making the Ultimate EDC Package. We hope you enjoy this video and learn a few things at the same time. If you have any questions, drop them in the comments below.
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[@hobiecat1736]

What an informative video! Thank you for putting that together. I have the 4" compact, and it was really interesting to watch the various things that you did here. Thanks!

[@VanceOutdoors]

Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching.

[@bartreid3801]

Thanks so much for the trigger installation tips! I would have struggled using only the included instructions. That takedown lever pin will have you questioning yourself, though.

[@tenbo9128]

Love to see you do a video on the PDP-F and making it all it can be

[@MrSteveb1]

I’ve got the PDP compact and love it. I mounted a Holosun 509T using a C&H plate and have ordered the suppressor height sights from Walther. Totally happy with stock trigger. Thanks for an informative video.

[@andrewbrumagen3479]

I have a PPQ and I want one of those pistols. The price is very low their site. But I want to him to change the sights I'm not good at that. I would fuck it up.

[@johnkovitch550]

Great video? I just bought the PDP 2.0 after carrying the PPQ , since it came out around 2011. There is also a guide rod option that is supposed to be excellent , it’s by ZR Tactical Solutions , it’s supposed to dramatically enhance the shooting quality of the PDP. Thanks for the excellent video. I build ar15’s but wasn’t sure about doing the trigger on my PDP, but with your video I have the total confidence that I can do it myself. To me, Walthers are the best pistols on the planet. I’ve never had a single ftf with my PPQ, highly accurate and best triggers out there, imo.

[@fujmilla]

Thanks for the install video. Picked one those triggers up and wow what a difference. The factory instructions are for the steel frame and leave a lot of info out that you cover. Thanks again Put it in a 4.5 PDPi

[@VanceOutdoors]

Glad we could help!

[@kennyosborne2587]

I’m picking my pdp up tomorrow 😮😮😮. Great video!!

[@ironsights.2a913]

Great video - covered about everything!

[@jakethesnake9528]

Such a great detailed video!

[@tonyn152]

Great informational video! I plan on adding new sights and maybe a red dot to my PDP-F and this was a great tutorial. Not sure I'd want to do the trigger replacement myself though.

[@Justin-os2zc]

Great video.. surprised I just now say it since I watch a ton of videos of this kind. I’ll subscribe and share.

[@v.german11b]

Outssstanding!!! Great presentation. Thanks for the information.

[@VanceOutdoors]

Thanks for watching! We are glad you enjoyed it.

[@v.german11b]

@@VanceOutdoors I own two Walther PDP. A full size 5" (18+1) and a compact 4" (15+1). Nothing but praises. No complains. The best handgun of the year 2021.

[@soperfirearmstraining3412]

I love my PDP so much, I need to get the trigger in it still,I also use it for uspsa competition as well as EDC

[@keloz27]

This was super helpful!

[@VanceOutdoors]

Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching.

[@jimjab3631]

Thanks for the video!

[@fringeminority150]

Glad this gun getting some attention ,its an absolute gem for the price . I bought the PDP PRO SD 4.5" and I love her ,it came out of the box ready to go and with a nice trigger, it is not a small pistol at all but I'd definitely carry it if I didn't live in brown bear country as this would just pee the animals off. So ya haven't had any issue at all mind you only had a bucket o bullet through her 250 rounds roughly so all good. Just wish came in different calibers...10mm would be an amazing offering ,

[@aarongeerer7758]

You might look into Buffalo Bore's outdoor offerings in 9mm. I believe they are cast, but a lady took down a mother grizzly bear with them. Not exactly a plinking round, but the idea of a 9mm being able to cover all your bases is pretty cool.

[@fringeminority150]

@@aarongeerer7758 Oh ya Buffalo Bore are great I carry in my Titan and Delta Elite both in 10mm. Never thought about carrying a 9mm out here... maybe with some +P hard cast .I'd love to be able to carry my other guns. Would Definitely cool brother 😜

[@Swampytheroot]

Nice install video. A bit short on how the upgrades improved the function. It's funny. 5 years ago, before progressive lenses and rheumatoid arthritis set in, this would have been something I wouldn't think twice about doing myself. Today, nah, it goes to the shop for someone with better eyes and better fingers to install.

[@dmhnc07]

Would like to have seen a pull gauge before and after on the triggers. Also would like to have heard you talk about the differences. Take up, break and reset. I'm looking at buying this gun for a green dot Holosun 508. I've had red dots on an M&P M2.0 9mm and a 10mm but I didn't care for either. The co-witness sights were a big distraction for me. I like standard height or none at all. From everything I'm hearing these guns have great triggers as is. If so I see no need to change. I know that some are trigger snobs but a polymer striker isn't a 1911. There is nothing like a 1911 with a great trigger.

[@jonnsmusich]

Very good. You explain what you are doing very clearly.

[@chrisbroome9937]

Still too big for a true EDC, in my opinion. I love my PDP, it has one of the best striker fired triggers on the market. I wish Walther would put out a true PDP micro compact to compete with the P365, Hellcat, etc. Give us a PDP with a 3.3-3.5" barrel, 15 round capacity, width of only 1", and that same great trigger.

[@DS..69]

What are you a smurf? The PDP compact is the perfect size for EDC. Especially in the fall and winter.

[@mikegurv1818]

They did. PDP-F comes in 4 and 3.5 inch barrel@@DS..69

[@DS..69]

@@mikegurv1818 I know that Einstein. The 3.5 is designated F. Made specifically for females. All the while, men with Smurf hands are buying them too. 😆

[@mmafanatic-tz5or]

Not everyone has baby hands. I have very big hands and even the Smith& Wesson 2.0 is too small for me

[@elzippo488]

@@DS..69 Ha, it's as thick as a G20 fcol!

[@kstats8243]

Well done!!!

[@Miketheneck]

Good job Andrew

[@rodyates4771]

Been carrying the Walter ppq for sometime now and am now carrying the pdp, I can’t imagine the trigger being much better than it already is. But opinions are like, well you know.

[@oscardavidvelazquez2581]

Thanks for the video!!!!!

[@VanceOutdoors]

Our pleasure!

[@alexmagana8984]

Great vid

[@cia290]

Made all that look easy

[@boss350z5]

great video.

[@kcstocks2004]

Incomplete video, you never spoke of or showed how the upgrades improved the gun. No mention of sights, accuracy or new trigger feel or pull. Incomplete video. Good installation instructions but doesn’t make me want to go out and pay for upgrades if I don’t known that it is actually an upgrade.

[@i2ambler2002]

The video is called 'detailed installation', not 'modification review'.

[@schism6976]

Incompetent message....

[@stevenhill5255]

Good point. There was no need for him to shoot the gun in the beginning of the video if it was just about the installation.

[@lovesimon2946]

Yeah it was a good install video but I would have liked to see the results or a before and after section.

[@massiveaction6217]

You just messed up this man's promo check

[@thejon1344]

Awesome vid !! 😎😎 Can’t wait to work on mine 🦾👍🏻

[@Felon_With_A_Gun]

I've got a Walther PDP F-series 3.5 with a Holosun SCS PDP greendot. An optic that needs no adapter plate. It's also an optic that you can co-witness with your iron sights in case the optic breaks or fails. It's my EDC. The only thing negative I can say about my experience with finding a good holster for it. The aftermarket support on PDP has not caught up to how amazing the pistol is.

[@Felon_With_A_Gun]

@chalkmyhonk. Already on it lol. 😅

[@FindersKeepers88]

Good, thx

[@JacksonWalter735]

Great video man. I really want to put a Dynamic Performance trigger on mine, but they've been out of stock for so long 😭

[@MrSteveb1]

There still out of stock lol but the stock factory one is so good, I question the need to spend that much $ on replacing it .

[@darinhughes6948]

Yes I would like to get one too but is it really worth it

[@chillios2222]

That box looks huge lol, crate

[@tractordirt]

The Holosun SCS-PDP seems like a viable option…no plate needed and 1/3 cw with stock sights. Only catch is that there’s no shake-awake.

[@boss350z5]

How do you get the front sight off of the 5in PDP? There's no access to the 3/16ths hex bolt from the top... Edit: There is a plastic dust cover over the screw that can be slid out of place to access it. FYI to anyone else wondering about this.

[@brucepraska7781]

Purely a machining process question but Is it possible since the pdp comes optic ready that as well as using the screws from plate cover but also using the cover as the mounting piece for whatever red dot sight you use by flipping the cover over

[@charlesharper7292]

Asking cuz I don't know. The factory trigger is pretty damn good. What is different about this other trigger? I ordered a compact 5 a few days ago.

[@criticalmemetheory5404]

Cool video. But how much tighter were the groups? How much did the trigger improve?

[@miketyson8933]

THESE THINGS SHOULD ALREADY BE IN THE DAMN PISTOL!!! THIS JUST TELLS ME THAT WALTHER KNOWS THEY ARE SELLING SUB PAR PARTS IN THEIR FIREARMS!! MY SPRINGFIELD ELITE HAS A META MATCH TRIGGER I FRICKING LOVE IT!!!

[@YowzaBowzaWowza]

Manufacturers cannot add value w/o adding cost. Fewer units would be sold at higher prices. They have all that figured out before a new model is produced. Different makes also have different attributes. They have have different costs to consider. Walther and Springfield each build their guns in different ways. If your plan was followed guns would be nearly the same and too expensive to sell.

[@pablorenner333]

Thx from Germany

[@taemeister9302]

Just got this pistol. My first firearm that i've ever bought (with the exception of the m16-A2 in the Army). Haven't fired it yet, but i will soon. Wondering which laser sights to buy for this beautiful pistol. The grip on this pistol is sooo~ perfect

[@priest0701]

Former 19D, what do you think of your PDP? Did you ever carry a pistol while serving?

[@556suppressor]

I'm getting the PDP with 5" barrel for my Bullseye League. Have not decided on which Red Dot yet.

[@hispanicscausingpanic7115]

Great video! I have the PDP full size 4" and I would like to get my hands on the Dynamic trigger and the Walther steel sights. I run a holosun 508T. Your video just convicted me to get them both. Just got to find them

[@VanceOutdoors]

Thanks for watching, Francisco! The 508T is a very nice red dot, we really like those also.

[@jaytay7989]

Why’d you go with 4” slide full sized grip? Why not the compact ?

[@hispanicscausingpanic7115]

@@jaytay7989 I went with the full size because I have big hands. I can't use a glock 19 without pinching my hand every time I load a magazine. But the PDP has a the undercut on the trigger guard that allows you to get a much higher purchase on the frame. So in hindsight I wish I would have went with the compact.

[@martylucas8557]

Ha, you made it look easy, but it’s anything but! Great job!😊

[@michaelphillips5786]

I own the pdp 4inch compact and the pdp f 3.5. It seems that the pdp f is a flatter shooter with less recoil. Both gun are fantastic!

[@jonah8133]

The PDP F 3.5 is really less recoil than the compact 4in?

[@michaelphillips5786]

@@jonah8133 yes, in my opinion, the pdp f has less recoil than the reg pdp compact. The f uses a steel guid rod vs polymer in the reg pdp. And the f grip module is more like a 1911. All the best

[@Nordheide]

@@michaelphillips5786In Germany the F Model is described by Walther as the female version. Smaller grip, shorter pull and the slide is easier to rack. Would you prefer the F model as a man with manly hands?

[@tommuttera3730]

@@Nordheide I have a PDP-F/4", swapped the backstrap on the grip for the included larger backstrap, all is good.

[@kevinyoung947]

@@Nordheidei didn’t think there were any men left in Germany

[@muthu1666]

Very detailed video .can you please share the link to purchase the upgrade items..I am specially interested in the dynamic trigger..

[@jaycoy107]

Liked and subscribed.

[@Sourpusscandy]

What’s the advantage of the dynamic trigger compared to the performance duty trigger? Is there a trigger for this gun that doesn’t have the safety? Did you happen to measure the weight of both triggers? Would like to know.

[@mikewallace8087]

The factory trigger stands just fine. Maybe fiber optic sights change? Basically just dandy out of the box.

[@thomaskral8777]

Cool pistol

[@unclecracker5010]

Thanx for such an easy follow video!!! I have the full size 4.5" barrel PDP and would like to know your thoughts of using it as an EDC??? I'm currently rotating EDC a SHIELD PLUS 9mm and SHIELD 45acp!!!

[@VanceOutdoors]

Thanks for watching! We are glad it was easy to follow. The EDC question is hard to answer because everyone is different. The best advice we could give is to get a holster for it and try it out. As long as you can conceal it comfortably, you should be good to go.

[@JoseNunya]

If it were me I'd have placed the sights being removed in the center of the vise. Banging on the slide where it was gave me shivers. As far as the Loc-tite used left me wondering if maybe i've been wrong in thinking that "BLUE" or green if you prefer are the "medium" or less positive locking ability to secure any screw/bolt.

[@VanceOutdoors]

The thread locker used in this video is Honda brand, red is their medium strength Hondalock 2HT. Similar to Loc-tite Blue.

[@survivetheattack]

Great upgrade video! Is that the Compact or Full size frame? (you mentioned the 4" bbl, but not the frame size).

[@VanceOutdoors]

Thank you! It's the compact frame.

[@TerminalM193]

Just had to send my pdp into Walther due to having a failure to feed litteraly every other magazine and at the most random times, nomatter the place in the mag the round sits in and it's always the same exact ftf issue each time. The round will be pinched on the bottom of the feed ramp and bottom of the breach wall. I tried changing to a new oem guide rod and even a sprinco guide rod, no luck..... And it's not a magazine issue either, I'm able to get all 8 of my mags to inflict the issue. I take immaculate care of my pdp and treat it like my child so it kills me to not know what's causing the issue.... This started happening literally right at 1k rounds and I've always fed her great, normal pressure ammunition from Norma to federal hst and federal 115g fmj, never any steel case 😢😢😢

[@66ft]

6 months later here but would you recommend the tactix optic or a vortex venom?

[@johndeere1951a]

Disassemble and re almost as easy as a GLOCK. This was a How To demonstration. Not an operational, technical specs, performance before and after presentation. Good armorer demo. 👍

[@Tingkulingblue]

Cool video! I have a PDP, but where can I get that pdp shirt is my big question

[@gutblaster187]

Sounds like a good option for rural folks who live in low crime areas and face little risk of ever having to use a firearm in self-defense. For us city folk probably not so much. I can easily imagine a prosecutor asking why one chose to install a competition trigger kit in a carry gun.

[@jamesboylan3262]

I understand that this is a year old, but I am looking at Red Dots for my new PDP Compact I just bought. How would you rate the Riton X3 you put on the pistol?

[@I_ammm_mojojojo]

would have been nice to get an actual view of the BUIS co witnessing

[@ploxplox1109]

yeah that shit looks snappy af

[@SeaNNyTizzle]

any reason the take down lever wont come off once the front pin is removed?

[@mikecompton6401]

When you put the front on, why is the slanted part facing towards the muzzle?

[@pappasmurf243]

Sorry but the one part i think a lot of people would disagree with is you should absolutely loctite optic and optic plate screws. Thats why they come with blue loctite on them, you can break the blue without heat but ive seen enough people NOT TORQUE TO SPEC AND NOT USE LOCTITE and have their optics fall off or come loose to kniw better

[@a.d.c7941]

Great video!!! Do yall install sights if I sent mine??

[@briansavage932]

So... What did all that do for you? We didn't see before/after on your groupings, no commentary on the feel or performance of the sights and optic... A follow up would be nice.

[@j.p.4541]

I recently ordered a Swampfox "Justice" pistol red dot for my Walther PPQ Q5 Match slide and unfortunately the holes dont line up. Which means it probably wont fit my PDP either. You guys have any suggestions?

[@TerminalM193]

You using the proper adapter plate? Check out c&h precision

[@cleveland72]

Do you install triggers bought in store? If so, how much extra for install?

[@GainsMarathon]

I’m so confused. Why would you be installing the factory pdt in it if the pdp already comes stock with the pdt trigger?

[@waveslave]

I can’t seem to get the slide stop pin out from the right side of the frame. Any tips or tricks for this? Yours came out with ease.

[@VanceOutdoors]

That pin has a much tighter fit than the other pin to the rear. It goes through the frame rail block so it takes more pressure to remove. The tolerance is much tighter in the metal frame rail block, we really had to put some muscle into that pin the first time it was removed. You may want to take it to a local gunsmith and have it checked out. Maybe they can help you get the pin removed.

[@jimoneal3]

I am installing the same trigger right now . I am on your step one popping out the slide stop pin. I can’t hammer this out for The life of me. Do you have any recommendations??

[@mma709]

Question if you are recommending a gun and you have too spent more money to get it great was it great too start

[@Joe-oo3xv]

Thoughts on pdp compact compared to G19 fkr EDC gun ?

[@kaimuller1342]

Better use the original spring of the pdp. The spring provided with the trigger is heavier. - Or use the Sprinco spring kit.

[@goran5088]

How is that so? Is it better then to buy a regular pdp and the Dynamic Performance Trigger individually than buying the PDP Pro Sd? Because of the spring?

[@kaimuller1342]

@@goran5088 there was no pro sd yet when i commented it. Sure you can buy a pro-sd and upgrade it with the Sprinco. It's the same trigger.

[@MrDro1128]

Well fucking done, man...well fucking done!

[@aaronv8430]

Great video what was the cost on the upgrades

[@oscardavidvelazquez2581]

That's trigger can fit on PPQ Q4 Tac?

[@miketyson8933]

The PDP is the same size as the MASSIVE WMR damn near hahaha I'm so flad they came out with the PDP F!!!! The PDP F is the best pistol Walther has ever made PERIOD! I WAS SHOOTING WALTHER OVER 32 YEARS AGO! STILL SHOOTING THEM!

[@OshoRamseyGump]

Is the dynamic trigger worth it?

[@jordanr6827]

I've fired a full size 4.5 (I think) at my local range and liked it's size and accuracy. Do you think it practical at all to carry IWB with a full size 4.5 or even a 5 or would it be too much of a pain and I should just go with one of the compact models?

[@VanceOutdoors]

It's all personal preference, body size/shape, and how you carry it. Some have no issues hiding a full-size gun, and others cannot, even if they wanted to! A carry gun is a tool. Not necessarily meant to be your range gun, but something practical to carry all the time. If that is a full-size gun, it's a full-size gun. But you want something you don't ever worry about concealing, meaning size-wise. If you worry about it, you will find more reasons to leave it at home on the dresser, or in the safe, VS on your person. Coming from a 5' 8" 160 LB guy who carries that exact gun in the video appendix, with extra mag daily!

[@jordanr6827]

@@VanceOutdoors And does the difference in grip between the compact model and the full size matter aside from capacity? I carry a CCP and it fits my hand well but I'm not very satisfied with it when I take it to the range. And when I fire the PDP full size, there's half an inch or so of empty space below my hands on the grip, but I like the feel and accuracy seems just fine.

[@TerminalM193]

I'm 6'3", 215ibs and carry the 4.5" full size pdp iwb with no issues. I wouldn't carry anything bigger though. The glock 19 "and other similar sizes is right at that perfect size mark for me.

[@the_rippla7678]

It's tough bro especially when you sit down or have to pick some off the floor

[@seveglider8406]

I have a Walther Q4. It's a bit large for conceal carry. I'm 6 ft. 165 pounds. Purchased a PDP F Series with a 3.5. inch barrel. It's great for conceal carry.

[@MrBoricua1984]

Great video. Still cannot take the slide lock/release pin out for the life of me. And believe me, I’ve banged on it. Also tried it with an empty mag inserted, which was supposed to make it easier, but it still didn’t budge. 🤷🏻‍♂️😡

[@VanceOutdoors]

Thank you! That pin has a much tighter fit than the other pin to the rear. It goes through the frame rail block so it takes more pressure to remove. The tolerance is much tighter in the metal frame rail block, we really had to put some muscle into that pin the first time it was removed. You may want to take it to a local gunsmith and have it checked out. Maybe they can help you get the pin removed. Thanks for watching!!

[@MrBoricua1984]

For sure. I’m going to have to take it to someone, and everyone is charging $45-50 to do it. Don’t have much of a choice I suppose.

[@ericwitt4153]

How much to buy the gun already complete with the upgrades on it?

[@jimmyavery867]

How to kerp the red dot so clean

[@jimmyavery867]

How much yall charge to do my pistol like that if I decided to get one

[@DCRUZ547]

Any news on the Walther PPS M3??

[@pudgy916]

Is this the 4 inch with full size grip?

[@valkry007]

Wish they still made the PPQ M2, I won't get a PDP because they made it so wide to accept an optic.

[@stenmoeller]

Certainly a very valuable video, but I would like to suggest for future videos that you cut a bit and check that important parts are in focus. In this one, there is a bit much ouf of focus. I have seen other guys using a fixed camera overhead which works very well. But the content here is obviously very good.

[@ronhoffman7941]

Why not change the guide rod and spring?

[@leeaundus4429]

Can this fit with a glock conversion kit?

[@SILKYSMOOTHSHAVES]

I torn between the hellcat pro with compensator on which would say is best

[@VanceOutdoors]

It's all personal preference. We would suggest stopping by one of our locations or your local firearms dealer if you are not in Ohio. It helps to hold them and see how they feel in your hands. They are both very different firearms.

[@TMAquatics]

Isn’t that trigger too light for an edc gun? Great for comp shooting.

[@6a617b]

having owned it for a while now i'd say it is fine to carry, less travel than the OG trigger but nothing crazy.

[@andrewbrumagen3479]

I just looked up the stores and I didn't know that some in Ohio! I thought some in California cos 10 round count. This spring I'm gonna get married and we will go to Columbus we are around Cleveland area. But your prices are fantastic. When I order a PDP compact how much do you guys charge to change the sights and I'm a lefty so I need to switch the mag release button? I should send you guys an email to ask you guys that.

[@coolwaterhubby5208]

My question is how much will the up grades cost .

[@colby78hurley]

Why replace iron sights if mounting a red dot?

[@wykkydjvc]

Walther is awesome till slide lock spring retention tab sheers off then it's a safety hazard waste of money because no where can you get the replacement parts and Walther doesn't respond to any communication. Making that tab out of plastic is the biggest design flaw in the industry.

[@Three60Crusader]

I always trust people wearing a t shirt of the gun they’re reviewing lol😅

[@charlesharper7292]

Appears to be as easy to work on as a Glock.

[@beausandland]

Too thick to be called the “best EDC gun ever” sig macro has that title rn.

[@six66string]

I really want to swap out my stock pdp compact trigger, but I’m kind of intimidated by it. Seems very intricate and I feel like I’d assemble it back incorrectly or something

[@garrisonturner3232]

Isn't the trigger one of the selling points of the pdp? Why change it? (Just curious)

[@six66string]

@@garrisonturner3232 it for sure is one of, if not the best stock triggers out there. I would swap it out because the trigger I’m talking about, the one that comes on the pro, is an upgrade from that. I’ve upgraded my compact to where it’s pretty much the pro version minus the trigger and threaded barrel. Just upgrades.

[@J1Z06]

I'm pretty sure My Glock 45 will be traded for one of these! That trigger!!!

[@Catgat37]

I traded my last Glock to fund a Q4 SF that was a hell of a deal in December. I now have 2 more Walthers and 2 more on layaway. They make some very nice handguns.

[@searcheryea6579]

Do any of these come with a manual safety?

[@VanceOutdoors]

Walther does not offer the PDP with a manual safety at this time.

[@searcheryea6579]

@@VanceOutdoors thanks for the reply