Best Electronic Drums For $3000

Today we're doing a deep dive on the best $3000 electronic drum sets
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Chapters:
0:00 Intro
1:10 Shell And Cymbal Sizes
2:57 Drum Head Materials
3:44 Cross Stick Sensor
4:31 Positional Sensing
4:51 360 Cymbal Triggering
5:22 TD27KV Drum Pads
6:23 Drum Module Comparison
9:35 TD27 Module
10:34 Overall Strengths And Weaknesses

[@65Drums]

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[@pjmtry7]

Younare the only one who can really detail the Edrums, Love It! My purchase of the TD50 was mainly because your info!!!

[@dkatwood]

Terrific video, Justin! Thanks for all your time and work on this. Have a great holiday.

[@jimistixxdrums]

Not just great information, but great editing and great production as well. Thanks so much, Justin. Keep up the great work!

[@65Drums]

Thanks Jimi! glad you appreciate the time I spend on that stuff 😂

[@MelvinGarcia]

Thanks for this, man! You’re the absolute best!

[@cleverdood]

great video and perfect timing as I've sold my Strike Pro kit and my acoustic kit. I am 90% sure I'm going with an EFNote 3x, depending on shipping/import costs as there are still no dealers in Canada.

[@GurtyVideos]

Thank you for this video. Great comparison. Thinking about the Efnote 3x

[@wuffb]

Great Stuff!! I've used Roland and Pearl Mimic Pro . . . ended up with Yamaha DTX10 as my gigging kit . . . ALL have strengths in some ways and weaknesses in others, it's great how you cover the differences!

[@steevidrums]

Very thorough list, very well thought out. I can tell you spent a lot of time on this. I am all edrummed out with gear but if I was in the market for a $3000 kit, man... a tough choice but I think I would t would a toss up between the Efnote and the Yamaha. Enfote gets the nod for the 8 channel USB mode, the Yamaha because I generally like the samples better and the extent of the internal processing.

[@samplautz5586]

The more I watch these videos, the more that EF Note 3X is looking amazing

[@reubenk7331]

Thanks for the comparison with pros and cons!

[@Ghi102]

When the version 2 of the TD-27 was announced, I managed to grab a version 1 on sale for 2000$. That price/value just can't be beat!

[@johndef5075]

Damn! You can get the hihats and its still a great deal!

[@kaianders2075]

ur videos are so freakin good! thanks for your help

[@65Drums]

Thanks dude!

[@briand2507]

Great review...

[@tomdrums4607]

I got the Vad503, an extra c-14-t, lemon china, lemon splash, drum mat, seat, all hardware and stands, Alesis drum headphones for a bit above 2500. Check the second hand market people!

[@scotteg]

Awesome reviews, thanks so much Justin! For viewers that are considering the VAD307 vs. the newer TD-27KV2, I just want to point out that the TD-27KV2 now has the VH-14 hi hat, which is world's better than the VAD307's VH-10 hi hat. I originally bought the VAD307 and then returned it and got the TD-27KV2 because of that. Also, thanks for mentioning the expansion kits. I just picked up the V Expressions Reality set has some freakin amazing kits, much better than the preloaded ones IMO.

[@RokDAWG1]

Awesome video!

[@trishmanning4447]

Hey Justin. Thanks for the info on the Roland TD and VAD comparison. I play e-drums primarily because I can’t make a lot of noise. I would like to know how much noise the new “hybrids” make by comparison?

[@RB-rf8rf]

Unfortunately I'm not yet in the market for the 27KV so will miss that bargain however have my eyes set on the EFnote 3X within the next 12 months. Great video as always.

[@Ben-ic1ve]

Just what I was looking for. I’ve had the DTX452k for a while now and I wanted to upgrade to something in this price category!

[@robertcolletti5951]

Well done Thank you

[@jimscarlett]

I just grabbed a discounted TD-27kv and can't wait for it to be delivered tomorrow. I know it doesn't have the sweet new digital hats, but most of my edrum time is on an ollllllld Roland V-Session so I'm pretty sure the VH-10 will be shockingly better enough for now...at least it moves and uses a real stand!

[@galgogergo]

For me, the ideal setup would be the eFnote 3X with a 13" (ATV? in grey color) snare, and a Pearl Mimic Pro!

[@JayRamahi3810]

Is that Eloy Casagrande playing the Yamaha at 1:30? I didn’t take him to be a Yamaha guy lol

[@Fyve]

It sure looks like him

[@Trottelheimer]

Once again, the Alesis Strike module seems a better proposition than most...

[@williamperri3437]

Just not the set! Cymbals and hats feel horrible.

[@fernandokarmali1993]

Hi, The output information about EFNOTE modules is incorrect. Yes they have L/R out, but the module also have a 3.5 mm jack for headphones that can be used as a independent OUT. Inside the preferences, you have a matrix, and you can route the sounds you want through the 4 OUTs. I have a EFNOTE 3, and I route the Kick to LEFT, snare to the RIGHT, toms to headphones LEFT and cymbals to headphones RIGHT. Keep up the good work 👍🏼

[@nickcwh]

I have just gotten the Efnote5 thanks to your reviews!! Hope to see a video from you on recording edrums with songs while playing, either with usb output or midi setup :))

[@matthewmore6893]

Agreed I prefer the efnote 5 over any of these.

[@iDoDrumsOfficial]

I'm massively interested in the Efnote stuff! I'd love to hear what you think 🤩

[@AbbeyRoadDuluth]

Just got the Efnote 5 and it is fantastic…seriously next level stuff; and, it looks as good as it sounds!

[@vince7511]

Justin I have a Pearl Mimic Pro and will have to buy cables to go to my drums. How do I know lengths to keep everything looking clean and neat?

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

"The DTX8K and the VAD307 are too stupid to know when you're trying to play a rimshot versus a rim click" took me completely off guard 😂 Great round up Justin and thanks for the shout out 👀

[@65Drums]

lol I almost took that out haha glad you liked it

[@djashjones]

Now, with the Roland kit updates. I can't find any info on the new, not so new T cymbals. Idea for a future video. CY-14C vs CY-14C-T. worth the upgrade?

[@Rockman685]

Hey justin, do you think that you could do best drums for around 1000 to 1500 dollars please. I am trying to find a first drumset in that price range and i dont know what to pick.

[@MM-kh7nx]

Thanks!

[@65Drums]

thanks for the support! I appreciate it :)

[@claudiopinto8327]

Hi there. I use to have the roland tv30kv and stupid me trade for a dw collectors, Just sold last week the alesis strike pro se afther owned for about 2 years, didn't like much. Now my question is, what roland should I get, can I by the 306 with the module 27 kv ? Or should I wait to know what roland is going to bring next year for the $3000

[@fredrikottosson3427]

thx dude!

[@65Drums]

Sure thing!

[@AerisVelivolus]

Which one would you recommend between Efnote 3X and Roland Td 27KV?

[@azfaa2178]

Hey Justin. I'm into DW's. Do they have premium kit drums? Salud from Brunei. Thxs

[@tiborfeher6509]

Hi there from Hungary! View Nr 3 is mine ... 😀

[@bkf22002]

Justin-considering upgrading from my TD12, which I really like...should I buy a TD27 or TD30. Love the channel!

[@65Drums]

If it was me, I'd get the TD27, but it's just personal preference. by the way, the TD30 went out of production in 2016

[@alexk7726]

Thanks Justin! I'm choosing between TD27 KV1 or KV2. KV2 has an updated module and a cool 14 digital hi-hat.Yamaha comes with stands for snare and hi-hat. There is also a Gewa G5 pro.

[@campbeja001]

Td27kv2 all the way. Best for the price

[@boricua9071]

I have a kv1, get the KV2. For 500 dollars more you get way better quality especially the digital hi-hat.

[@LiquidToolExperiment]

I was having the same dilemma and just went with the 27kv1. Killer deal on sweetwater. I got the kit with an extra pdx100 tom and mount, and a free $225 throne all for $700 cheaper than a 27kv2. Added pm100 monitor, cy8 cymbal, boom stand, snare stand, dw3500at hat stand, 2 pairs of sticks, trs/trs amp cable, beyer 770 studio headphones all for about $3700. About the price of just a kv2 by itself. 2.0 firmware update will be available soon for everyone. I was tempted to go with the vh-14d hats, but I got sooo much more for so much less going with “gen 1”. Not to mention the cy13r on gen 1 is 3 zone and the new gen is not. I couldn’t justify getting that much less while spending that much more just to get the “digital” hats that still use analog controls. Same exact module once 2.0 releases to everyone in the next couple weeks. Btw, you can get the vh-14d on ebay right now new for $697 instead of the $1149 that Roland is trying to charge if you really want that upgrade.

[@campbeja001]

@@LiquidToolExperiment Sounds like you made some very wise decisions!

[@LiquidToolExperiment]

@@campbeja001 I hope so. As long as the vh-10 isn’t garbage then I’ll be happy. I’ve read some bad but mostly good. I just want to jam at home so nothing’s professional.

[@motodrummer6389]

Justin bhai help me alesis nitro mesh kit. What headphones is good for that drum.

[@Ripperx121]

Ya know Justin, Roland and these other companies better treat you good. I went to buy the TD-27KV solely because you mentioned they were selling them for 3k now not 3500. Yeah I didn't do that. I want the Digital HH so I went TD-27KV-2. For 500 dollars it is worth it to upgrade. I hope. 😀I had no intention of doing this until this fine Sunday! This channel is bad for me! LOL!.... I can't believe I just did that!

[@jonlieberman997]

thanks

[@Ozterkvlt]

I tried the TD27 in a store and was shocked at how bad it sounded. Also I didn't really notice the positional sensing on the ride or snare much. I guess it was set up badly but I'm glad I didn't buy it without trying it. Wish I could try out the TD27 module and digital snare on its own without paying like 2000€ because I've heard good things, but I'm very skeptical.

[@boricua9071]

I don’t even bother with my td-27 module sounds. I run my module through addictive drums 2 and that has worked like a charm every time.

[@johndef5075]

Efnote and ATV havent been out long enough for me to spend that kind of money on. I'll stick with Roland and Yamaha for now and keep my eye on Efnote which I really like.

[@shakeyjakey2424]

I've owned the ATV for 2 years, honestly love it and can't fault it at all, it's my favourite instrument I've ever owned. The drum sounds are fantastic and the snare/cymbals are excellent. Only downside for me is it took some real work getting the sensitivity for each trigger and the hi hat control set up right when I first set it up.

[@Iamadrummer]

What about the Millennium MPS 1000? I know it is sold exclusively from Thomann in the UK, but I can get it shipped to my house in California with shipping and Vad fees for under $1500.00. This kit has all accustic shells. It has a 10" and 12" rack toms. A 14" floor tom. A 13" snare. A 20" bass. A 13" h High hat on a stand. Two 15" duel zone crash cymbals. An 18" triple zone ride. All the hardware is included, even a bass drum pedal and drum throne. Most reviews said the module is good over all. The reviews are split on the sounds. Some say the sounds in the module suck. Others say with twerking the sounds they can be very good. The module does have bluetooth.. 90+% of the reviews say that for the cost and what you get this is an excellent stage ready kit.

[@stenmartens7179]

I'd be interested to hear about this one as well. mainly since i'd use it in combination with a VST plugin for sounds I really only care about the feel and hardware side of things. and i mean, its about half the price of all the other comparable options so are you really surprised it sounds meh?

[@Ddd20018]

My comment is not quite related to the video but I wonder if you could help. On my E pro live drum set if I hit the bass drum at the same time as my cymbal pad the bass drum cuts out. I’ve tried switching out the cymbal pad I tried switching out the bass drum I tried switching the cable tried switching the channel nothing seems to matter. Any ideas?

[@superdrummer3578]

If the bass drum doesn't play at all, it is probably cross-talk settings, which need to be less aggressive. If the bass drum sound starts playing and stops too early, it's a different issue, I'm not sure how to fix that

[@nickfowler8031]

i wish the ride on the vad307 could be 15 inches instead of 14

[@TylerHNothing]

got the TD27KV for Black Friday before she's gone

[@jakebrockway6368]

What about an Alesis strike pro se with an upgraded high hat ( Roland VH-14) ? That would cost around 3k if I got the set used, Where does that rank out of those sets?

[@65Drums]

You can't use the VH-14 on the strike, it only works with the TD27 and TD50 modules right now due to the USB cable. But in general, yeah upgrading the hihat to something like VH10 is a great idea, many drummers go that route. It bumps the ranking a little bit

[@Strykjarn1]

I would go Roland an make it more acostik like by myself

[@user-qb5ni3cn5l]

Big like from ISRAEL !!

[@filipeperry]

I just bought the Yamaha DTX8 w/ tcs heads . The drums feels and sound great. The only downside are the hi-hat cymbals sensors . Man, you have hit pretty hard to works properly. It’s really annoying sometimes.

[@AerisVelivolus]

I'm thinking about getting one DTX8: Could you explain in more detail what do you mean? Bad triggering or something?

[@filipeperry]

@@AerisVelivolus the hi-hat triggering points are not that accurate.

[@ReverberateAndChime]

Question. Is it a good idea to buy a good module like the td17/27kv and just buy assorted pads to spend less than 3k?

[@eDrumsInANutshell]

Do you need the module sounds? Otherwise I would grab an Audiofront eDRUMin10 and assorted pads. Really. Sorry, I am definitely not paid for that comment. It's just... these are awesome devices if you don't need drum sounds from the module. Two years ago I was searching simple trigger2MIDI interfaces but.... OK. DDrum, Roland, and there is Megadrum DIY . But also quite expensive.

[@eDrumsInANutshell]

Ah, and you got a GUI on your computer, so you don't have to fiddle around on a tiny display with tiny buttons.

[@daltonidaho]

I don't see why it's so hard to make some larger sized pads and cymbals without the price going into the stratosphere. And the modules sound terrible, the efnote and ATV sound way too dry, the Yamaha and Roland sound fake. Why can't a company just make an approximation of a Toontrack library? There's a niche in the market ready to be filled!

[@eDrumsInANutshell]

Haha. Yeah... 3000 $ Phewww. Exactly my thoughts. I am using Toontrack. I love it! AND I started with a 540 € kit now equivalent to 540$. Still using the Millenium MPS 850 pads as toms. And a DIY snare.... I got some links in my profile. And I am using the Audiofront eDRUMin10 trigger2MIDI interfaces. I am kind of gear addicted... But far away from 3000$. Using also cheap 3zone 15" Lemon cymbals. Doing their job. One for ... 75$ . Pfff. I grabbed 5 of these. A no-brainer. + a 18" ride. :) If that all falls apart I would grab a nice used acoustic kit and a DIY A to E conversion. I mean, dude. If you open up a Roland cymbal you got a 20cent piezo as- well.

[@RichardMarletta]

I can't agree more mate 👍 👏

[@eDrumsInANutshell]

@@ianmcnamee1652 So, dude... Why did you spend 2500$ for a module sounding like a 179$ VST? Sorry, I'm exaggerating... 😏 Of course Toontrack libraries do have their limitations. For example I would appreciate more wire-off samples. Or being able to muffle the drums like I want it to hear... Anyway, I love those stories of nice mics and consoles, engineers and studios... I gonna stick to my Audiofront modules and Toontrack samples.

[@eDrumsInANutshell]

Ok, that was bit nasty. For the newbies... for the VST software you need a computer and an audiointerface. And you have a more complex(?) learning curve. That's all not necessary for a drum module.

[@daltonidaho]

@@ianmcnamee1652 I disagree, Roland's samples just don't sound like real drums to me. I always hear the argument that you have to spend time with the module to get it sounding great. But why? Why not have great sounds out of the box? And the machine gunning drives me insane. Oh and I have a VAD506 so I'm not anti-Roland. If you're satisfied with the TD-50X sounds, great, but for me Roland's sounds are hell.

[@ourixtlan7939]

What would you buy?

[@JakeAntelis]

Efnote!!

[@joanleons5399]

Well if I had three grand to spend on drums I would get three or four separate sets of Cheaper drums and just put them all together LOL . That's what I have now . Keep up the good work and thanks ! , you are definitely appreciated worldwide . 🥁

[@djashjones]

I really don't get why Roland stuff is more expensive in the US/EU compared to the UK

[@johntherat339]

Where can you get the ATV drums in the US now?

[@65Drums]

EdrumCenter

[@johntherat339]

@@65Drums ah, says November. I will keep an eye out. Thanks

[@SirDarb14]

@@johntherat339 Yeah, their next shipment is supposed to be the first or second week of November from what I'm told

[@MrBlueDux]

I expected to see the alesis strike pro se

[@65Drums]

I think at the time I made this, it was 2500, so under the price tag of this video

[@MoonerBros]

TD-27KV set is not $2699, Main difference is digital HH.

[@phillamoore157]

This is so incredibly subjective that "good" means a million different things. I didn't get much of anything from this other than all kits in this price range have some kind of issue. Then again, he rattled off so much info, as fast as possible, perhaps I missed a piece of information that would've made a difference (standard issues for KZbin reviews). Veteran professional drummers couldn't give two-sh!ts about having a module that has 5000 sounds (virtually none of which you'll use), or with the ability to post your shedding on KZbin automatically, or whatever other feature kids today like. We want a 4pc-5pc kit with one or two VERY good sounding high-end sampled kits, and high-end cymbals that feels as close to acoustic drums/cymbals as the industry will currently allow. Seems to me that a LOT of money has to be spent to accomplish this.

[@eyesolatedrock]

Is a hammer better than a saw or a drill? It depends on what you’re doing. You wouldn’t use a drill to cut a 2x4 and you wouldn’t use a saw to drill holes. Is an acoustic kit better than an e-kit? Yes. Yes it’s better. 😂 It’s better because you can convert it to an e-kit, not always the other way around. But, there is a use for e-kits.

[@DudleyCreekStudio]

Yeah, smaller. Why lug bigger gear?

[@downdemon2378]

Why do you imply a bigger drum is better? Id imagine e-drummers want portability so a smaller kit would be superior...

[@stell4rt]

Because it's more convenient to play and most of all, it looks closer to an acoustic drum, and that's what we all want at the end of the day, having small pads makes it look like you're playing on a toy. A toy that costs 3k... But still a toy

[@THERAMMSTEINFAN490]

Man its hard to listen to what you're saying when there's all this great drumming going on 😂😅

[@everennui1]

$3k. This video isn't for me.

[@dilankarun9172]

A few years ago Justin and Mike Luke got in a heated debate (Well Mike was pissed, Justin kept his cool) over Drum modules vs VST's like Superior drummer etc. Mike argued that VST's made expensive drum modules irrelevant (The Mimic Pro, TD-50) . A ddrum DDTi for example would be sufficient. At the time, I gave the win to Mike. Looking back, I feel like an imbecile. Because something happened along the way. Roland. They made the Digital Pads. Game changer. Even worse, if you don't have a TD-27 or TD-50 you are SOL. None of these other drum Co's, Gewa, AT, EF, Yamaha, Alessis, As of today, can duplicate the Roland Digital ride, Hi-hat or Snare. edrum workshop tried to run these digital pads in the Pearl Mimic pro and failed miserably. Therefore Mike Luke was wrong, and Justin was right. My humble apologies to Justin. Its absolutely amazing what a Roland Digital Snare paired with SD-3 can do !. So in Conclusion, Why would you invest $3k in dinosaurs like EF Note/AT or Yamaha ? PS: Roland should be ashamed of themselves for not supporting digital pad's in the TD-17. Check this link, Edrum workshop is trying to save Co's like EF/AT/Yamaha, looking to duplicate Digital pads in Non Roland modules. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bHnRkI2detKJmLMy

[@Trottelheimer]

The TD-17 doesn't have IO to support the digital snare/hat/ride. The TD-27 was launched 2 years later and costs 2 times as much as the TD-17. Nothing to be ashamed of there - they are different levels of modules.

[@dilankarun9172]

@@Trottelheimer Sorry, I should've made it clear I was alluding to the Roland TD-17 Gen2 Module that came out this year.

[@jamisbillson4872]

Millennium make an electronic kit that looks like an acoustic kit for less than $1000!!!! It’s probably poorly made like the Alesis Crimson but it’s still a huge move.

[@JaellesDrums]

going to a biiig edrumstore in germany in 9 days, gonna see if i can pick up the 27kv at a discount or maybe the 27kv2 and try to haggle it down a little bit in the hope to get it in my budget or its gonna be the efnote 3x or dtx8k choosing edrums is hard 🥲

[@scotteg]

Thanks!

[@65Drums]

Thanks Scott!!