Best Home Defense (.223 VS 10mm) Ballistics Gel Test

[@Valorius]

I believe i'm the one that requested the 55gr gold dot 10" test, so thanks very much for getting this tested! I'll share it for ya on my community tab.

[@AzAirgunner.]

@@Valorius You sure are!! And absolutely.. thank you my friend, always appreciate u taking the time to check em and comment!! Also thank you so much for sharing it on ur community post!! You🫵 are awesome!! 🙏 🍻

[@Valorius]

@@AzAirgunner. Hey brother it's the least I can do! If you can manage a 9BPLE test from a 3" S&W shield (or any other 3" micro compact) I'd be mucho grateful! Keep up the good work brother, and the beard is looking fantastic! ;)

[@AzAirgunner.]

@@Valorius Thank you very much, and absolutely I can. I actually have a lil older test with it in the smaller frames but can definitely do a more recent one. I'll like this one in the meantime. Thank you again for support brother, much appreciated!! (9bple) kzbin.info/www/bejne/i4rCeX-JlLp7b5osi=21xmmY1ck_0LrVYs

[@Valorius]

@@AzAirgunner. you got it brother! If you can manage to get your hands on some Speer Gold Dot 115 grain 9mm+p+ that would be a great test too. That stuff is rare as heck.

[@cuda4094]

Do you know if he has a 9mm carbine test?

[@dwheeler016]

That 10 mm is a pretty hot round.

[@AzAirgunner.]

@@dwheeler016 💪💯 Wish they were still available. Appreciate u checkin it out!!

[@Disastrous.Affect]

Wow, that 10mm surprised me.😲I have been considering a supressed, shorty, 5.56 for home defense. Now I am thinking it would not be an improvement over my 10mm.🤔

[@SEPTEMBERMAN]

THAT is why I dig the 10MM. AWESOME test

[@1958PonyBoy]

I was not expecting these results. It makes you wonder how those 10mm rounds would work out of one of those Ruger LC carbines in that caliber.

[@vashmatrix5769]

Great job using the sunlight behind the jelly

[@DadHominem]

Great video. Imagine the 10mm out of a PCC with a tad longer barrel for home defense. Either a 10mm PCC, or a shorty 5.56 is a great choice, just choose your ammo wisely.

[@AzAirgunner.]

@@DadHominem Right!! Would definitely be a pretty mean setup🤔. Thank you, I appreciate u taking the time to check it out!!

[@GreyShooter]

Surprising! 💥10mm for the win!💥🏁 Very interesting test. Thanks. 😎👊🇺🇲

[@AzAirgunner.]

@@GreyShooter Thank you buddy!!

[@markstephens5120]

When 10mm is loaded properly it's a badass round.

[@Grizzlyman420]

Zastava makes nice stuff! I have 3 M70s and a M77! Right up there with arsenal! Real SHTF tools! I wish Speer would actually load their damn 200 grain 10mm to correct speeds

[@DasGoodSoup]

What kinda accuracy is that m77 pulling?

[@Grizzlyman420]

@@DasGoodSoup 250 yards just under 2 MOA haven’t shot over that yet. The cool thing with my m77 is it has a milled receiver 🤯🤯🤯

[@MTMILITIAMAN7.62]

Speer has always been optimistic with their advertised velocities. That .223 load was probably a 24 inch barrel, and even then, I wouldn't be surprised if it fell quite a bit short. They make excellent projectiles, but their ammunition is garbage. I miss seeing Gold Dots loaded by Double Tap and Underwood. When I was first getting into 10mm, Double Tap was just getting started. Their 180 gr Gold Dot load was my go-to for years, and it actually chronoed very close to 1300 fps.

[@rangetime6779]

Very interesting test. The 10mm kicked butt. The short barreled 223 just can't deliver the velocity necessary. If they made short barrel 223 with faster burning powders maybe it'd give the 10mm a run for the money. Considering the size of the firearms.... 10mm all the way.

[@jmichaelcarbonniere9549]

Great test, AZ! Timely, as well, since I have a Ruger LC 10mm on order. It has a 16" barrel so I don't know what my velocities will be with the 165 Gold Dot but out of my Glock 40 they are moving out at 1450! These are handloaded as I was finally, after more than 2 years, able to find some for sale. By coincidence, my current home defense ammo for my AR is the Speer 55 gr Gold Dot, also handloaded. I don't remember the velocity off hand out of my 16" barrel but it's loaded to the max according to the Speer manual. If it turns out that the LC shoots as well as I hope it will likely become my main home defense gun. I will probably use the Underwood loading of the Lehigh Extreme Defenders but I have a limited supply of them so my backup ammo will be the Gold Dots, of which I have nearly equal confidence in! I will post the velocity data as soon as I get it! Cheers, jc

[@MichaelEgan66]

The Turkeys Opinion channel is doing a giant series with the LC Carbine 10mm right now. Good stuff

[@AzAirgunner.]

@@jmichaelcarbonniere9549 Thank you sir!! Awesome, can't wait to hear the results. Appreciate ya, thanks as always my friend!!

[@jmichaelcarbonniere9549]

Michael, I watch Mr. T closely! His series on the 10mm LC is what prompted me to order one for myself. That and I get a pretty good discount from a friend that works for Ruger! Since I'm usually broke, I sold some stuff so I'm getting the LC and an SFAR. I've been wanting a AR10 for quite a while, like since I sold my HK91 several years ago. I let the HK go because my back was a complete mess and it was heavy. My back has since been fixed but this SFAR has gotten my interest for a while. All the reviews I've read on both guns have been positive so I bit the bullet and ordered both. Between those and a new puppy, I'm pretty busy for an old guy! Cheers, jc

[@MichaelEgan66]

@jmichaelcarbonniere9549 Yeah, I like Tom alot. Apparently though, you'll have to do something about that stock on the LC because it has made his cheeks bleeding a few times from sharp edges. I'm sure you saw that though. I'm wanting one myself, I just need to get rid of my scorpion first.

[@drewday6109]

I love it!!! I’ve been waiting for some 5.56 content

[@AzAirgunner.]

@@drewday6109 I appreciate ya be patient. I know it's been a while since u asked. Should have quite a few this season. Thanks as always my friend!!

[@guardianminifarm8005]

Great idea for a test. Well done Sir! I am surprised and impressed. The 10 definitely outperformed the 223 in this situation. Don't get me wrong the 223 performed excellent and produced excellent results. This demonstrates how well hot big bore handgun rounds can perform. The stills again reveal so much. Huge thanks.

[@AzAirgunner.]

@@guardianminifarm8005 Thank you sir!! Yeah I hear ya, it's pretty crazy to see how much power some of these handgun rounds are producing now days. Also thank you for sticking around long enough to see the stills, very much appreciated!! Thank you again my friend!!

[@paulscountry456]

Our Sheriff's use those Dots.Thanks for using good stuff, I like good stuff.

[@AzAirgunner.]

@@paulscountry456 Nice!! Thank you my friend I'm tryin. Same here, sometimes it's kinda hard to find the good stuff lol. Always appreciate ya watchin!! Thank you🙏🍻

[@angrysheepdog9744]

I think the takeaway here is confirmation that the 55gr gold dot out of a short barrel has similar terminal ballistics as the best one shot pistol cartridges eg 10mm or 357 sig.

[@djangofreeman9382]

Nice video…But I would love to see professional 10% F.B.I. Calibrated Ballistic gel it would yield more accurate results

[@JKCullens]

Modern 10mm fucks hard. Meanwhile everyone still acts like 10mm doesn't do anything more than 9mm does

[@AzAirgunner.]

@@JKCullens 💪💯 I appreciate ya checkin it out!!

[@autumnfragrance6326]

Depends on the cartridge. Underwood is hot.

[@Gchang54]

Never doubted the 10mm, I don't think the round was ever perceived as being level with the 9mm. It's pretty much a .40sw on tren.

[@QuickStrikes84]

Wut, nobody says 9mm = 10mm. Still not worth the: increased recoil/ less shootability shortened gun and parts service life Expensive ammo and poor availability lower capacity limited gun choices. Most semi autos chambered for it can't even run the heavy stuff well with flat nosed rounds designed for max penetration. I just skipped it and go straight to the 454 casull ruger SRH.

[@JKCullens]

@QuickStrikes84 literally almost none of that you just stated is remotely as true as you think it is.

[@josephpepper3087]

Very interesting test! Hotter pistol cartridge with a good bullet vs. Rifle cartridge with a good bullet but neutered due to popular short barrel. There are some quality 10mm PCC's available.

[@Valorius]

I think we can see why I choose the 55gr GDSP for home defense. Speer also makes a 5.56mm version of this that's about 150fps faster, but they only sell it to LE. Every once in a while you can get lucky and find some online. Thanks for doing this test for me brother!

[@SuspiciousGanymede]

I have a mag of them for hunting hogs. I always get double shoulder penetration with typical SP expansion but much more weight retention because they're bonded. Never captured an expanded projectile, using a 20" 1:7 twist barrel. The 62gr is even better but much harder to find, federal loads them in their fusion line.

[@tajituck888]

@@SuspiciousGanymededude check out the federal fusion msr 62gr. It’s literally the same round as the gold dot minus the nickel plated brass. Same velocity and all. It’s my go to defense load.

[@paulscountry456]

Good for barriers like cars,always cars are involved nowadays.

[@Valorius]

@@tajituck888 I've had really good success with the Gold Dot deer hunting, and I have probably 2,000 rounds of the stuff. If I ever do right out I'll try the federal level I've heard great stuff about Fusion

[@Valorius]

@@SuspiciousGanymede I get very similar results on whitetail deer with this 55 grain stuff

[@NitrousFTW871]

Great test👍👏👏!!!!

[@NoMercy6266]

Awesome test!!!! 👍🏻

[@AzAirgunner.]

@@NoMercy6266 Thank you my friend, I appreciate u taking the time to check it out!!

[@iplaypaintballalot]

Thanks for making these vids

[@AzAirgunner.]

@@iplaypaintballalot Thank you🫵 for watching em!! I appreciate it very much!!

[@iplaypaintballalot]

@@AzAirgunner.Any chance you have plans to gel test Winchester’s defender 10mm load? It’s supposed to be both full house and bonded. Curious if it can fill the out of production gold dot underwood shoes.

[@motorgearhead]

I figure my Keltec sub2K might come pretty close to this level of performance. Winchester Ranger 180’s clock right at 1190-1225 fps for nearing 600 fpe. The keltec adds about 200 fps on to what I get out of my Sig 226. I’ve played with +P pressure 160 grn handloads and making 800 fpe isn’t much of a challenge with a 16” barrel. Pistol caliber carbines are quite capable.

[@iplaypaintballalot]

Any chance you could do some of those budget defensive loads from AAC thru the m85? I was thinking the 75 grain black tip and 77 otm

[@Matteo_]

Was that organic ordnance gel or a clear synthetic? When you were doing the later cross section comparisons @9:04 it looked more like clear synthetic. I didn’t see any of the telltale sweating after being handled by the warmth of your hands.

[@BuckeyeBallistics]

10mm carbine for the win for home defense over a .223/5.56 pistol 😅

[@DeepSouthEdc]

I got that 18" 5.56 you can use!!!

[@AzAirgunner.]

@@DeepSouthEdc That would be awesome!! Prolly see a pretty big gain in velocity and damage🤔💥.

[@tahertz8544]

I would like to see that fort munitions tui the tumble ammo and see how it does in 223., the only downside is you don't know which way it's going to Tumble out.

[@TheWalterKurtz]

I think either one would do.

[@AzAirgunner.]

@@TheWalterKurtz 💪💯

[@claudelewis5026]

didnt see that coming

[@almaadams3631]

Meet you half way with my 8" CMMG Banshee in 10mm.( 150grn. Underwood Noslers can't be beat for home defence)

[@Hammerback0]

This must be titled to get the 10mm people fired up. Any time I see "VS." I think of two similar cartidges. "10mm vs. .22 short, ballistics gelatin testing, which has more energy at 15 yards" 😂

[@MikeMike-rr2rh]

Okay 👌🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾 o

[@bobjones-bt9bh]

just shows how rifles, even in crap ballistics configurations, rock. And how some pistol ammo in the right configurations, can match a lower end rifle's performance there aren't a lot of the morons out there who pump 9x19 saying "all pistols are the same and rifles are different" who aren't utterly full of bullshit. the magic 2000fps is a nonsensical, nonscientific metric. energy matters

[@tahertz8544]

If this was a ❓ the answer is yes. I would add a 12-gauge and then this is America's home defense 223/10 mm and 12 gauge. I smell the America in the gunpowder😂

[@jaymedina3142]

Every gun hating Democrat that wants to ban Ar-15s should watch this.

[@ralfhtg1056]

The way you charge the Ak... Actually it is meant to be charged by keeping your left hand in its position at the front grip, instead use your right hand to charge the gun.

[@patbrown463]

You're incorrect. He's right handed and charges the firearm without interrupting his firing grip, a.k.a. natural grip. The way you recommended is a novice take.

[@ralfhtg1056]

@@patbrown463 No. The way I described is the way that was inteded when the gun was constructed. Soviet / russian troops are taught this way until today. Background is: this way you cannot accidentally pull the trigger while charging. You should do yourself a favour and do your homework before making incorrect statements like the one you just made.

[@patbrown463]

​@@ralfhtg1056negative... Finger out of the trigger guard until ready to fire. This is the optimal way and non-negotiable. Watch some people who actually train and aren't mere keyboard warriors. Carry on.💯💪✌️

[@ralfhtg1056]

@@patbrown463 Wrong in one major point: the gun was deliberately constructed to be charged the way I described. Because soviet leadership didn't hold their soldiers in high esteem concerning intelligence. That is why things should be as easy and unmisunderstanble as possible. Look up the history of the constructuon of the AK and you will see that I am right. It is inteded to bring away the hand from the grip. That has been made deliberately. Or what do you think why the gun is constructed the way it is?

[@josephpepper3087]

The Soviet doctrine was a right-handed soldier would use his right hand to charge the gun. We can choose to do it how we like because we aren't Cold War Soviet soldiers. I chose the Mini-14 for .223 and Tavor T7 for .308. 😊 No AK or AR in my house anymore. I used to use only AK's and know them well.

[@ArchAngelUSMC]

300 blackout might have been a better comparison but this is a pretty good video!

[@Valorius]

Why would it have been a "better" comparison?

[@ArchAngelUSMC]

@Valorius pretty simple... 300BO was designed for shorter barrels.

[@patbrown463]

​@@Valoriusheavier projectile.

[@Valorius]

@@patbrown463 but what makes that a better comparison? Honestly I didn't even feel like he was comparing the two rounds I felt like it was just two separate gel tests of two separate really good rounds

[@Valorius]

@@ArchAngelUSMC so what? I specifically asked him to test this round when he recently asked for people to give suggestions about what he should test. I didn't ask him to test 300 Blackout, I asked him to test this specific round from a 10-inch Barrel.