Best Lance Builds for v3.0 (The Meta)

[@jet-blackjo2455]

Lance content is sooooo rare. Good to see someone doing lance meta

[@eternalhazard8461]

Thanks! I definitely play other weapons here and there, but I always end up back at lance.

[@johnbowery6474]

I've spent my whole monster hunter career as a bowgunner but once I used the Lance I never looked back.

[@TheLtrain2010]

Gotta use all weapons.

[@wickedweavile4612]

Good to see one of the less used weapon types getting some love

[@professorpenne9962]

I like lance players. I main sns and to this day I can't think of a single time a lance carted when I was in a random party with one in rise. If anything the other two would cart.

[@eternalhazard8461]

I actually see people say this a lot. Would be interesting to see which weapons cart most overall.

[@professorpenne9962]

@@eternalhazard8461 it's pretty obvious what weapon would be 1 but that would be like saying the sky is blue lol. that aside, have seen ranged players not being able to handle their zone and cart as well.

[@professorpenne9962]

@@eternalhazard8461 last game I played in farming gem parts tonight I had to carry as a poison sns. I wish more people played lance it would have made the run way faster instead of ls players standing still when the monster moves in the other direction.

[@trowabarton101]

You've never played with me then champ 🥲

[@Post_624.]

I've made a set for this lance that reaches 477.966EFR with no buffs, and 518.226EFR w/buffs. Full Valx armor with AtkIII as Rampage Skill, w/Crit Eye 3, 2-0-0 charm. It has DH5, Resent3, Resucitate3, CritEye4, CritBoost3, Wex3, Speed Sharpening 3, PP2 and Flinch Free 1. 55%aff on weakspots, 296.8 raw with no buffs and no Resentement active, only Dragonheart. 296.8 × 1.22CritMod × 1.32sharpness = 477.996EFR. Maybe you are interested in that. However, it has no Guard, so not everyone is going to like it.

[@eternalhazard8461]

That talisman is definitely better than the one I'm using in the video, but when I plugged your build in using the CE3 2-0-0 talisman I showed no results. I had to drop a level 1 skill (SS down to 2) to make it possible, so let me know if I'm missing something. Your calculations are just slightly off, so I'll run through it for your set. Weapon Raw=238 Raw modifier 1.1x from DH Added Raw 20 (Resuscitate) Added Raw 15 (Charm/Talon) 238x1.1=261.8 This gets rounded down to 261 as we ignore any decimal here. 261+35=296 Affinity modifier is 1.22x Sharpness modifier is 1.32x EFR comes out as 476.6784 (No Resent) and 500.8344 (With Resent) With my talismans I can pull off the same with one less point in CE, so mine would come in at 468.864 and 492.624 respectively. This actually does still barely beat my Valstrax build, and should give better scaling with attack buffs. I'd like to add a note about this in my video and credit you with the find if that's OK with you!

[@Post_624.]

Oh, my bad then. I haven't rounded the decimals between the calculations, so it might ended up being sligthly higher than it truly is. About the SS being Lv2, I filled up the 3 Lv1 slots from full Valx with SS, and the Lv1 slot in the weapon with Flinch Free. Maybe you missed that slot in the set searcher. Thanks for the advice, I'll round the decimals the next time I calculate something. Sure, I'm perfectly fine with you adding a note with my set. I'm sorry if the no-rounding issue bothered you.

[@eternalhazard8461]

@@Post_624. Found my error when I plugged in the build. I wasn't accounting for the level 1 slot on the weapon.

[@Post_624.]

No worries, thanks for your attention. :D

[@twistedtbow7758]

Great vid!!! But how do you get the cape lol?

[@eternalhazard8461]

It's an armor set/skin unlocked by doing arena quests.

[@twistedtbow7758]

@@eternalhazard8461 is it part of base game? Or do you need sun break for it? I’m playing on console

[@eternalhazard8461]

@@twistedtbow7758 it's part of base game. You can find these quests by talking to Utsushi in the gathering hall.

[@twistedtbow7758]

@@eternalhazard8461 thank you so much!!!

[@somedude2468]

I absolutely suck at lance. No matter how much time or in how many situations I’m in, I will never be good at lance. But I still use it anyway and this video helps a lot

[@eternalhazard8461]

Honestly the best advice I can give for lance would be to focus on the triple upwards poke (mid-thrust) to sidestep combo. After the sidestep you are able to turn your character about 30 degrees in either direction so you can essentially stay glued to the spot you want to hit (until the monster moves). This style also gives you more chances to counter when a monster is about to attack (very little animation lock) than the meta of spiral thrust and charged sweeps. Consider using build #3 until you get comfortable. I'm also working on another "non-meta" lance video right now which includes some more fun stuff to mess around with for lance players. That should be up later tonight.

[@gamingmeta8645]

A wonderful video. I'm slowly coming around to PP as a maintenance. I'll still make some end-game elemental lances because they're just too much fun to mess with (and cosplay) but it's nice to see Lancers post online. Keep up the great work!

[@Laoruperteen18]

youd rather have 18 attack using six 2-slots, than +10 attack from resentment with two 2-slots on the val set? no guard, no guard up, no evade extender, no wirebug whisperer to spam those really powerful moves, or even slotting in for level 3 polish? honestly i think having 6 attack decos is a waste of comfort for the sake of a few extra damage numbers, instead of serious comfort with guard, evade, wirebug, would easily make up for the lack of 18 attack in my opinion, youd basically not go for any of the guarding counter moves, and be rather slow comparatively without clever use of the running thrusts.

[@eternalhazard8461]

These sets are essentially the highest potential average damage metas. If you feel like you are more comfortable with guard skills, evade skills, etc, definitely add them in! As a note I would recommend not pairing guard skills with val's set if you're trying to keep resentment up, as they would work against each other. Pro polish is fairly comfortable at level 2, but some may want more. The drop in dps to gain wirebug whisperer basically is a wash in terms of numbers (more spirals vs higher damage from less frequent spirals). I would never recommended evade extender to any Lancer.

[@methamphetamememcmeth3422]

Wait this isn't Elite Dangerous and the Meta De Lance? Where am I? Did a Thargoid hyperdict me?

[@Mademoco]

Subscribing for 2 reasons: Great content But mostly for the ps1 intro

[@BLOODKINGbro]

That narga built an affinity that is still pretty sweet

[@tmack5862]

#lancegang

[@midgetchip]

That oddworld intro sound

[@lVlalicious]

Thought I was making a rampage gunlance n made a Lance instead might as well try it

[@aaa1e2r3]

So you don't run with Guard Up slotted in?

[@eternalhazard8461]

In general, no. Guard up was a decent extra slot option in MHW for specific matchups (fatalis for example), but the skill got heavily nerfed in rise to the point where it's almost not even worth considering.

[@wallacehallett3835]

If I can fit masters touch instead of pp wouldnt that be better?

[@eternalhazard8461]

Depends how aggressive you are. This build gets 75% affinity on weak spots so MT3 would change the effective sharpness from 20 hits to 50 hits on average. MT2 you'd only get 28-29 on average. Basically if you can get more hits than the difference in your PP window, it's more efficient to run PP.

[@wallacehallett3835]

@@eternalhazard8461 thank you that's helpful!

[@bladechild2449]

It's so painful how shit the charged sweep is for whiffing and that they never fixed it. Like seriously, they allow Bow and LS to be stupidly overtuned, but won't do anything about this.

[@paymanbarazandeh2061]

Thanks for the info. Do you think Guard is necessary?

[@eternalhazard8461]

Really depends on your playstyle. I personally don't tend to run guard, but a lot of people swear by it.

[@Frozirra]

You should be running level 3 guard.

[@shadowthethird3]

@@Frozirra I think it depends if you're using anchor rage, or spiral thrust. Having guard makes successfully landing spiral thrust counter much more common during the later monsters. And the inverse for anchor rage. So less guard= more attack absorbed, and then transferred into you. :)

[@adamsmith2553]

Good stuff my guy

[@mitchevett5051]

How the heck do you play with ZERO guard. I could never. Wow. Regardless these are great builds, I'll just sacrifice some dmg for at least 3 guard from decos or something

[@eternalhazard8461]

That's perfectly fine! At the end of the day these are just my suggestions so feel free to tweak them as much a you like to suit your own playstyle! I realize I'm in the minority as a lance main that doesn't use/recommend guard, but it's what feels best to me. I guess I just got used being without it in the first few games and just never felt the need to change.

[@Strider_Arkkai]

Guard in rise is mostly like training wheels. if you know how to manage starmina then there is no need for the skill tbh that plus instant guard also helps a lot.

[@gooddayz8347]

Power guard duh

[@clxvii_]

Great video!

[@Frozirra]

No guard or evade extender? ISHYGDDT

[@eternalhazard8461]

I understand people who advocate for guard on lance if they're playing a more defense oriented tank build. Evade extender on the other hand I would never recommend to any lance player as it ruins the sidehop distances for stab/swipe combos.

[@alexdamas9808]

You don't need guard if you are using anchor rage. For spiral trust, guard is necessary if you want to block all kinds of attacks. Evade extender is terrible for lance in mhrise because it destroys your position due to how long your hop would be.

[@timpike8559]

Who plays multi unless it’s with like a good friend or a family member I don’t

[@eternalhazard8461]

I think the majority of players use the join request feature fairly often.