Best Mid-Range 16" Gaming Laptop? Lenovo Legion 5i vs Acer Helios Neo 16 (2024)

[@JarrodsTech]

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[@jcn268]

Can you review the Lenovo legion 7i pro 2024 please

[@drishalballaney]

my biggest issue with the lenovo is I wish it had atleast one thunderbolt port, would have been nice for future proofing if I want to get a thunderbolt dock, but then the legion slim 7 does not have an ethernet port which I use all the time both at home and also at my workplace

[@JarrodsTech]

@@jcn268 No point, same as last gen but with "new" 14th gen CPU (it's essentially a rename)

[@AlinnnnCos]

Jarrod i am desperately in need of your advice. I want to buy a legion pro 5i with 14900hx and rtx4070. I am scared that the temps on the i9 cpu will be crazy hot, do you have any experience with this cpu ?. If it is not good ,what is your opinion and what cpu should i choose for gaming which will not run extremely hot ? Please help me, i would really appreciate your advice

[@divakaranmano5878]

Predator Helios Neo 16 using raid 0 SSD, this is ok or not?

[@7hkey]

Thank you so much for the fan noise comparison :)

[@mihiraproductions]

Looks like Helios is better when my first priority is better performance for creation rather than design and key placement. I might go with Helios.

[@view_360_Andrew]

In terms of pcmark 10 test on my Helios neo 14900 4070 compared with test result of legion 14900 4070 in the famous website “notebook “ review , Helios neo is better with Pcmark 10 score reach 9100 while legion remains less 9000, where there is about 3% to 5% gap between them. In game, the speed of my neo even reach 8000, I can not believe my eyes. The popular Ssd speed read test indicates that my neo is over unbelievable 7000, while its write speed is also amazing fast than most ssd including legion 5 pro. But its 4K read and write speed is 10% to 15% slow than legion 14900 4070.

[@FoxxFire]

I so appreciate your reasonable and fair explanations. So many other channels talk about how one laptop "destroyed" and "defeated" the other in performance tests that are less than 15 percent different. Here you attribute some of the difference to just luck (i.e. better silicon). And you could have really been tough on that Legion's screen, which is so much worse in every measurable way than the Helios. However, you keep pointing out that Lenovo offers another display option that will likely be comparable to the Helios' screen. Thanks, JT, for another great video. Have a great weekend man.

[@jayclarke777]

Exactly what I was looking for. The best laptop review channel.

[@imrankhan-dq7pf]

As a computer shop employee, I often test new gaming laptops during my free time to provide accurate recommendations to our customers. Based on my observations, models from Acer, Asus, and MSI (High End) consistently perform well under continuous load. However, laptops from Lenovo, Dell, and HP tend to experience a noticeable drop in performance over time, sometimes even causing lag during gameplay.

[@mrbobgamingmemes9558]

I am sure it is because of thermal paste they use simply dont last long,

[@energyman7998]

How do you test them? What programme do you use?

[@legelf]

ive used both msi and lenovo laptops and for some reason msi is the one that drops in performance the most, it also doesnt release the full potential of the hardware for some reason so i have a strong preference for lenovo laptops because theyre reliable although more expensive in my region

[@TmzSudan]

So which one would you prefer in your personal opinion?

[@wz-fv2ix]

My lenovo laptop disagrees

[@LASTEIN2112]

as an user of a PH16-71 i can say that Predator is doing everything well, the liquid metal is amazing and the perfomance is impecable.

[@DHell-n8i]

It's pretty loud tho, I thought it was raining outside for a second.

[@LASTEIN2112]

@@DHell-n8i every laptop in the market will be loud, but it´s better loud and not burned like a sausage in hot car oil. PD: use headphones if you can afford a set with noice cancelling.

[@realnapster1522]

I also have last years’s Predator Helios Neo 16 with i7 and 4060. It plays any game. However the fan can run quite loud and it’s quite bulky and heavy. Apart from this performance is good.

[@minhsontungo3938]

​@@realnapster1522 yeah the only downside for this beast is that its quite heavy and the fan is just so loud

[@mantapdjiwa9768]

Why my laptop despite being 100% charged can only turn on when plugged in ?

[@ImShubhamY]

FYI, Thunderbolt costs a lot more than regular type c, and some people have mentioned hidden bios settings in Helios.

[@divakaranmano5878]

Predator Helios Neo 16 using raid 0 SSD, this is ok or not?

[@ImShubhamY]

@@divakaranmano5878 Yes I heard it supports raid, make sure to check specific model you are buying whether it supports or not

[@Nick_Zoc]

@@divakaranmano5878 that is a plus point, which is better for content creators and others not for gamers as it dosent really impact anything, cause gen 4 ssd it has i very fast

[@marshall3861]

@@divakaranmano5878if you have any other storage then your fine. If not then idk, ur cooked

[@user_5670x]

​@@divakaranmano5878 Do u know what type of ssd legion 5 uses?

[@Karibo_0]

Hey Jarrod ! I have a Lenovo 5 Pro for over 2 years now and everything was amazing with it : gaming, productivity, 3d modeling. But like a month after the end of the minimal warranty, things started to go south : some keys of the keyboard failing to respond consistently, all the usb ports completely being useless except for charging devices... I took a warranty long enough so I hope that Lenovo will make it work again (amazing after-sale service though), but still I thought to give you my personal feedback on that beast that the Lenovo 5 Pro is (or was for now..).

[@SPECTRA890]

Had the keyboard issue. Formatting seems to help for the other things

[@yugani7440]

@@Karibo_0 these are my provlems with lenovo too

[@realnapster1522]

I had the same experience with an Ideapad but it was due to windows drivers not supported.

[@adenonera7269]

I have heard that lenovos gaming laptops are facing motherboard issues Did u face any such issues?

[@MelechHaOlam]

@@adenonera7269Lenovo Legion5 Pro 3060, 3 years old and motherboard suffered a short, outside of warranty, quoted $1000 to replace. I kept it in good condition so it was just a part failure. Could just be unlucky but read about a number of people facing similar issues. I don’t think I will buy a Legion again.

[@kyleoh7517]

Made my purchase based on videos like this and I am quite happy with my Lenovo Legion 5i pro. The 230 hz Lenovo display is awesome but I assume the 165 is fine too. I consider Jarrods tech to be my foreign brother as we both like gaming laptops and metal music. Another great video as always.

[@ujjwalmurmu4818]

I bought Acer Helios Neo 16 i7 14700hx and RTX 4060 Version. I wanted to go with Legion for the same specs but the only thing that stopped me from purchasing Legion was that it doesn't have Thunderbolt ports. It's 2024 and even $800 - $1000 laptops come with at least 1 thunderbolt Port. I don't understand why Lenovo chose to not give Thunderbolt port in their laptops this year where as every other Brand is considering giving it away in their hier tier Gaming Laptops 🥲 Personally I am already happy with my Acer Helios Neo 16 since it's my first Gaming Laptop and Performance that offers this device is more than enough for me for Works like doing After Effects and Premier Pro and Davinci Resolve. I rarely do gaming 😅 It would be so hactic for me on the Legion because of its too much configurable settings in the Lenovo Vantage Software. Sometimes simple is better over lots of customisation for Content Creators 😅

[@ChillingGuy6969]

same, using the 2023 version i7 and 4050 its really a good laptop, people glaze lenovo just cuz the brand is more well known

[@yesyesyesnoooo7762]

I bought the legion one mainly because of the design and the keyboard. Basically all the specs of each laptop with similar price ranges are kind of the same anyway. But I do wish I had thunderbolt 4 'cause what's the point of having an i9 without it. Then again they're cutting on cost.

[@rajbhopale7742]

Do you have the 2024 acer predator Helios Neo 16 if you have it plz tell me how's the battery backup for it while gaming and normal usage cause I saw on the reviews and videos it has terrible battery backup

[@ChillingGuy6969]

@@rajbhopale7742 2023 model, up to 4 hours of battery if watching videos / light office work

[@ChillingGuy6969]

@@rajbhopale7742 why would u game without charging? 💀 Normal usage battery backup us around 4 hours

[@Ionikr]

14:42 do i hear Asus? I'm not even looking to upgrade my laptop but still watch your reviews. Quality stuff, Top man. Cheers

[@rulxury9494]

"Acer's" with australian accent

[@cheng210]

Singapore, Both prices are similar. Acer is more likely to get a discount and sometimes comes with a free 16GB RAM upgrade. Lenovo currently have a i7-14th HX, 32GB, 1TB + with 240Hz monitor SKU in Singapore, no major discount yet.

[@kunhadipatikusumanegara6798]

its good to buy laptop in singapore, meanwhile in indonesia too much meh, higher price, came late, kinda lower spec, ect

[@ballusingh9948]

Hi jarrod, thanks to your in-depth reviews. I got myself legion pro 5i 2024 model (idk why but 2024 was cheaper than 2023 model) and its a real beast of a system. A huge upgrade from my i5-10210u laptop. Thank you for your videos. they really helped me pick a good system in my budget.

[@shobhitkeshri8282]

I ordered the same laptop ❤ how is the battery backup BTW

[@abellananda934]

is it good?

[@josephread8072]

how is this now?

[@shobhitkeshri8282]

@@josephread8072 bruh mine was continuously thermal throttling, had to return it. The customer service experience was literal dogshit, had to mail them like 100 emails and continuously threaten to sue them in consumer court for them to take some action. As of now they are ghosting me and I am waiting for my refund. Don't buy from the Lenovo website, you will regret it. The laptop itself is good but the thermals are shit especially if you live in a hot country like me (India)

[@groundbeeftornadogaming2714]

5:10 I'd argue that the helios should get a *higher* score because of the torx screws since they are way less likely to strip and so are more suited for being unscrewed and re-screwed repeatedly.

[@neologicspasms]

What a great review! Thank you. I went down to Microcenter with the exact specs you have here and bought an open box Legion 5. S.M.A.R.T indicated the device had about 120 hours when I took ownership. But I saved 500 bucks. No blemishes, I couldn't be happier!

[@sammyt4549]

Thank you, Jared, for this comparison! I know these are a ton of work and i really appreciate it. I'm sure many others do too

[@Unknown0YT0]

So basically the only real difference is the brand, even if this Legion also had the same screen as the Helios. I'd say pick whichever is cheaper in your region.

[@mrbobgamingmemes9558]

Design language is different tok

[@PTGStyle201O]

Bought the Legion Slim 5 with RTX 4070 32GB RAM and Ryzen 7 8845hs. Very happy with it!!

[@akmalaqim8349]

May i know why you choose the slim version ? Do u think dust can easily get or not since the design infront hv many tiny hole

[@ademchokri8478]

currently using lenovo legion 5 pro ( R7 RTX3060 ) and i would choose lenovo legion series anytime anyday of the year , solid choice and the best laptops since RTX3060 hands down .

[@sathirawickramatunga]

is your CPU Ryzen 7 5800H by any chance?

[@nguyenvanquanglinh8501]

@@sathirawickramatunga 2021 model is the best for me

[@anna94k]

Saaaaame, 5800h + 3060, legion 5 pro, have it for 2+ years, work during the day, gaming at night so its on for around 12 hours a day, very pleased with it, best choice Ive ever made

[@maxkysl9641]

msi katana is better anyway

[@ademchokri8478]

@@sathirawickramatunga Yes

[@ViaConDias]

The Acer keyboard has much better travel and tactile feedback. Having Multiple Scleroses I struggle to type on the Legion. This is probably only important to developers and less so for gamers.

[@eonic6141]

Got the Legion 5 15ARP8 model for $800 from Micro Center on Black Friday. What a steal for a Ryzen 7 and 4060 combo. Very few drawbacks for the price

[@vmafarah9473]

9:45, lenovo optimization is a tier above to score good score in CINE24 on battery and also give twice battery life in video. may be legion is running on lower clocks when on battery. 9:02 good CPU clocks ingames . but little lagging behind in games coz most of the power is given to CPU. for a CPU power user and for battery backup for watching video Legion is better coz of clocks. while helios is better for gamers.

[@hanzohasashi1327]

It's nice that you mentioned Linux compatibility.

[@rajbhopale7742]

Thanks needed this

[@freeloaderfs]

looking forward to jarods best budget gaming laptops of 2024 video this year

[@boost91]

just bought the 23 legion w/ 32gb 5600, 13700hx, 4070, 240hz panel for 1k and love it!! BIOS update somehow has the RAM running at 5600mhz vs 4800mhz that the 13700hx chipset is "supposed" to be limited to...but the BIOS update did remove cpu undervolt and overclock but doesn't bother me too much as the 4070 (UV locked @ 2600mhz core and 8200 on mem) at full tilt usually has the cpu at

[@khurramrashid3074]

Where did you buy it from?

[@boost91]

@@khurramrashid3074 Microcenter was open box (2 days returned)...and no nothing appeared to be wrong with it...was hovering around 1400 new and maybe 1k open box when I bought 45 days ago....NOW Best Buy has it for 1800 with only 16gigs...So dunno whats up w/ that....Lenovo website isnt bad tho.. Ill keep my eyes open for you? Where are you located (roughly)? and budget? I spent 6 months shopping and never bought a Lenovo before...but I love it...just know its not exactly light....but the trade off is good cooling and build quality...and getting 5600 on the ram with the 13700hx chipset is awesome as free bonus (even if you lose cpu undervolting)...I havent seen ANYWHERE that a 13700HX can do 5600 on the ram...but it absolutely does for some reason...some arbitrary Intel limitation I guess, and the i7-13700HX is PLENTY enough for gaming with the 4070 so not getting the i9-13900HX hasnt bothered me at all.... DEF try to get the 240hz panel tho bc the 165hx panel is much dimmer...350 vs 500 (ish) nits between the two!!

[@jhansenduca1478]

Always loved Lenovo's gaming laptop designs.

[@jaishreejesus666]

after watching you're videos i bought acer helios 16 rtx 4070 in discount offer ❤ im loving it .... thank you Jarrod...i still love the old looks of neo 16

[@sankalparya6861]

for how much?

[@SuryaPrakash_test]

Great choice

[@vengeance4719]

Still working fine?

[@l3v1ckUK]

I've just ordered the Legion Pro 5 (R9), using your deals website. I hope it lives up to expectations.

[@cheesesandwich-o9e]

So, are you happy with this?

[@l3v1ckUK]

@cheesesandwich-o9e Seems okay so far. I've only set them up for my boys, then wrapped them as Christmas presents. But the build quality seems good, and I like the screen. The software for picking things like keyboard lighting is much more user friendly than on my Asus laptop.

[@muhammednazim7494]

How is the battery life?

[@l3v1ckUK]

@@muhammednazim7494 I don't know. I've just had them plugged in while setting them up and testing them. They've been wrapped up as presents for the last few weeks.

[@zkratzz]

I find torx screws so much better than phillips. Phillips screws tend to easily break with each failed screwing attempt, while it's very hard to do with torx due to their design.

[@jdle07]

I was doing some window shopping at the mall few hours ago to check if I will buy the legion or the helios. And then you released this video, I might get the legion one. Thanks Jarrod!

[@boost91]

have 13700hx version, love mine!!

[@realnapster1522]

Predator is better. But it’s more bulky and heavy.

[@kryrins]

Hey Jarrod, recently a lot of Lenovo's LOQ lineup are facing motherboard dead issue, can you make a video covering this topic? Its a very serious issue and in one case even the replacement motherboard died.

[@JohnST0NES]

Yes exactly Please Jarrod make some comment on this issue

[@JarrodsTech]

Source? First I'm hearing of it, so I can't exactly make a video about something I know nothing about. How many is "a lot"? Update 5 days later: I asked Lenovo and they said that they have found a very small number of cases (relative to the total number of LOQ laptops sold) and are actively looking into it.

[@whowontho]

@@JarrodsTechthe r/lenovoloq subreddit has posts everyday about it, as well as the discord server. Everyone’s guess is a bad batch was sent out. Also had to return mine after problems on day 5.

[@JohnST0NES]

@@JarrodsTech hey Jarrod there have been many cases in India , you can see on reddit many users Posting about motherboard dead issues in Lenovo LOQ, especially in hx series of 13 th 14th gen and even some 12th gen . Apparently as here you mentioned that lenovo pushed it's CPU wattage to 70w 80w , it does in these lenovo loq models too and as new lenovo loq is not having that good of cooling for these hx series laptops, and these motherboard in Lenovo LOQ is not having that ptm paste which is used in legion model , All in all lenovo loq models are prone to motherboard dead issues and company is refusing to make a public comment, please look into this. And even here in India lenovo has replaced some motherboards with refurbished ones causing them to die again in few cases users have mentioned same laptop having motherboard dead 2-3 times then after pushing much they refunded otherswise it's havoc.

My Legion 5 Pro recently died and first thing I noticed was tons of posts on Reddit with the same issue all within the same month

[@CarlosRodriguez-xk9ot]

i stick with the helios any day, 65w is just enough for light work if u had to move it around..is a personal case scenario of how much u move around

[@tylersmith9868]

I currently use a Lenovo Legion bought it in 2019 been a fantastic laptop. I would buy another in a heartbeat except I want a laptop larger than 16in. Leaning towards Asus or MSI

[@amr4336]

How's the performance after 5 years ? And what about the battery life ? I'm looking forward to buy a legion too but I'm confused between the options right now .

[@tylersmith9868]

@@amr4336 honestly the laptop has been phenomenal. The build quality on the legions is better than asus and others. One thing I wish Lenovo would do is make a laptop larger than 16 inches. I've decided to build a desktop gaming pc now, will have much more power and any size monitor I want I'm going with 27in 1440p. If in the market for laptop I'd definitely look at the legions

[@talmishaely2501]

The most detailed review I've come across, straight to the point. Highly professional. Thank you.

[@legelf]

this year's lenovo legion looks so clean its actually hard to see that its a gaming laptop and not a high end premium work laptop

[@balensdiq]

DON'T GIVE UP! You know, I have been using my Dell Inspiron n5010 laptop for 12 years! CPU: i3- m380 (1st gen) GPU: intel hd graphics 500GB HDD 4GB DDR3 With Windos 11 home! (lol) And I still could learn HTML, CSS, JS and Python in programming, and Photoshop, Premiere Pro and Illustrator! And all of Microsoft Office. Sometimes it takes 10 mins to turn on! What I'm trying to say is: Don't give up, don't let anything stop you.

[@gavinhathiramani4311]

thank you for this i really wanted to get something portable and powerful that is in my budget

[@aryandev1005]

I ordered Predator Helios Neo with i9 14900hx and rtx4060 at 1299 dollars

[@manongkodakerostudio]

where did you order

[@aryandev1005]

@@manongkodakerostudio bestbuy, now in sale its just 1049 USD

[@bernallafargajuanpablo622]

I managed to buy the same at 1050 dollars in BestBuy

[@aryandev1005]

@@bernallafargajuanpablo622 Yeah the price has dropped recently, I also bought from same bestbuy at 1299 4 months ago

[@clyderallos3624]

​@@aryandev1005Planning to buy, is the temps good?

[@OhioBoii330]

Hmmmm, i wonder why Lenovo decided to put the ports on the sides. They were putting them directly in the back with 1 extra USB port on each side. That was the deciding factor for me a couple years ago. I absolutely loved it and couldn't believe how much more convenient they were being on the back instead of being on the sides. Im genuinely surprised they stopped putting the ports on the back and put them on the sides and closer to the front.

[@TheOnlyVit]

because they decided to change their cooling system design, there aren't any spaces for the port since that space is for exhaust and intake fans. I also do really love their old port management though, wish they could change their mind in the newer model 😆 (which is most likely not)

[@habibullahmohan91]

Can you often make comparisons like this with other laptop brands with the same specifications? 🙏

[@JarrodsTech]

I want to, it's just hard to get them all the same or similar specs! I want to do Legion 7 vs Zephyrus G16 next.

[@habibullahmohan91]

​@@JarrodsTechok thank you for your hardwork

[@sbx2093]

6:38 what do mean by helios has no such feature??? I'm using it and it doesn't even show black screen like other laptops. When power goes screen goes to 60hz mode when power comes it goes 165hz mode.

[@ada11205]

My helios do same like the video always run on 165hz all the time, what settings i need to do?

[@marshall3861]

It’s so it’s saves battery when not plugged in

[@Shadow19679]

How to use that feature?

[@herbertwalter8693]

​@@ada11205i think you can set a dynamic refresh rate in the windows display settings but i am not sure when it triggers

[@GowLV]

Glad I made right decision and bought 2 days ago Lenovo Legion 5i 2024, thanks.

[@uhhhidk8300]

Also planning on buying a lenovo legion, only stuck on which i should get (i can’t even follow the naming system anymore). Was wondering why you chose 5i (instead of pro 5 slim 5 7i whatever there is). :))

[@GowLV]

​@@uhhhidk8300Price difference. It was best deal I could get, paying few hundreds for pro with same specs was not worth it for me. If I could get 5 pro for good price, I would probably get 2023 model, but Im totally happy with 5i, nothing to complain about. I would say you can't go wrong with any of them, it just depends on your budget and specs you need, just get whatever have best deal with specs you need.After watching many videos I decided to go with rtx 4060 laptop, 4070 with 8gb was not worth it, but 4080 was outside my budget I wanted to spend at the monent. I agree, naming is absolutely terrible, have no idea why they make it so complicated.

[@sirisxyz]

How is it going

[@sebastiannatzer2962]

I am from Germany, and I can get the Acer for 1600€ during Black Friday, while the Lenovo costs 2100€ for the same specs. So, I would never pick the Lenovo over the Acer, at least not in my country

[@herbertwalter8693]

gab nen paar echt gute Laptop deals zu black friday bei uns da hab ich dann auch zugeschlagen. bei GPUs sah's aber leider diesmal meh aus

[@gavinjones]

The battery limit thing is a must for me on any gaming laptop

[@notchipotle]

legion series has been real good if you get the right configuration

[@FrowningTaco]

Hey Jarrod, Will you do a review of the 2024 Lenovo Legion Slim 5 16"? I want to know if battery life has improved from last year's version.

[@unknownuknowm5942]

Just watch @tech guy beau

[@DhananjayKumarMishra-e5g]

Early legion y540 owner here. The fan noise on legion series laptops are really loud not that unbearable. But many times i mistook that noise for rain showers while gaming.

[@JarrodsTech]

Legions are louder now, but yes in the past they were some of the quieter options based on the data collected at jarrods.tech/laptop-fan-noise/

[@mrbobgamingmemes9558]

My legion 5 was quiet as long i dont touch legion fan control

[@neeljani1]

"Fn + Tab + power" when starting laptop the Helios for getting into advance bios

[@JarrodsTech]

Yeah I updated the pinned comment on its video once someone pointed it out to me in Discord, it was too late to make it into here though.

[@neeljani1]

@@JarrodsTech haha awesome

[@reaper7910]

@@JarrodsTech which video do you mean, Jarrod? The Helios Neo's? The pinned comment doesn't show anything about advance bios. And given the 2024 Helios 18 is in the graphs already, does that mean we can expect it or the Helios 16 review to be up soon?

[@reaper7910]

@@neeljani1 wait, are you saying the Helios can be undervolted now?

[@neeljani1]

@reaper7910 I have not seen in that deep but it has lots of customization

[@classmateofmine]

So I ordererd a Lenovo Legion 5 with these specs and I had the unpleasant surprise to find out it is the NON RGB version. Just plain white backlight. Apparently, these exist, so be careful out there, guys!

[@tumblevid]

Yo....yes definitely go to their website you will get to know. It will be 10 dollars more

[@Anonymous-jb7cb]

Are you gonna make a video about any laptop without an i-gpu?

[@awalay-wz3nh]

legion is great but man theres a cult of them going around invading laptop recommendation circles going legion legion legion, even seeing some people telling others to magically manifest double or triple their budget to buy a legion laptop of the same spec as some other brands available to them (especially in other countries with different prices) At this point its bordering on overrated

[@Shokuhou_chan]

What do you mean double budget, i mean legions are in the cheaper side compared to other brand. Also you can't really recommend anything else other than legions in the same class. on the lower class LOQ also dominating only second to victus

[@centurian6220]

Why no one is talking about Intel's 13&14 gen processor's instability problems. It's all over internet but no tech review you tuber is mentioning about it. Both the laps in this video are having high performance 14 gen intel processor.

[@zadregtsl]

the problems are in the desktop cpus ......the mobile ones in the laptop have no such problem

[@TheYodes]

@@zadregtsl In general it is there but it’s not as common as on the desktop.

[@bullseye2050]

Finally the comparison we needed !

[@benjm6608]

a lot more bios option by doing Fn+Tab+ Power when powering on then tap F2 on helios

[@mikeescalante8362]

I have always tested the helios vs other laptops and alway yes always performs better than other laptops, even though these have same specs.

[@prem.k9579]

Got the helios neo 18 (yes the 18 inch one) with the 240hz qhd+ screen, i9, rtx 4070, 32Gigs of ram and 1TB of storage for 1699, I'd say that's a good deal considering the extra screen size and i9 boost. I had a 16~1700 budget so I think I made a good purchase. Hopefully the temps are even better in the neo 18 cause of its larger build.

[@Mickey_Milos]

I got the neo 16 2023 (used) from ebay with the same specs except having 64 gb ram and 165 hz monitor for 1100 , Do you think it's a good deal?

[@matyasd007]

I am about to buy the same laptop. How are the temps?

[@homosapien-bk5rf]

Last year legion5 pro is awesome. Glad I bought it then. This year there is no changes in the laptops except that gimmick 14000's cpu.

[@alifhaiqalazmi729]

Thanks for the video,Jarrod. I gonna get Lenovo Legion soon

[@mojogustavo77]

Finally pulled the trigger and got a Legion 5 pro with RTX 4070 it has amazing build quality and runs great. I got it on sale for $1450 with tax. This is my first legitimate pc gaming set up. I’m extremely pleased with it. Lenovo has a premium look and feel.

[@sankalparya6861]

does it have heating issues? like are the temps good for gaming ?

[@vladlazlo]

Hehehe. Found another microcenter guy 😂

[@tangypotato1]

What should I do if I am getting acer with same specs as legion but 15-20k cheaper than legion

[@SuryaPrakash_test]

Fenboi

[@realnapster1522]

See how long it lasts? 😂

[@repla2992]

You said that the Legion’s webcam was worse than the Helios’ but in the summary part at the end you said the opposite 🤔.

[@nasula]

G16 vs Legion 7i when ? 👀👀

[@crabmans13]

Thanks for the Video, Definitely helped with my decision between these 2. Although i was looking at the 14900HX options. I choose the Lenovo, the clean look and portability with just about equal performance has me sold !

[@JarrodsTech]

Cool hope it goes well!

[@tumblevid]

How is it going?

[@GamesAndStuff111]

Can you please make a video with best laptops for RTX 4050 ?

[@bullymaguire4885]

Bro been waiting for zephyrus g16 4070 varient Btw love from india❤

[@himanshumodak5273]

Using Legion Pro 5i (2023) with 32 Gb Ram & RTX 4070 + i7 13700HX Till now decent performance.

[@himanshumodak5273]

@JML-w8l Hey Buddy, Since the time I bought, no issues. I play long sessions (6 hours in one go) of game, God Of War, AC Valhalla, Far Cry 6, Spiderman Remastered etc. GPU Temp reaches 85°C Max settings at 1980 x 1200. So far it's brilliant. No issues faced till date.

[@QenaitheCustodianGuard]

The legion does this with the battery on purpose, it's a security thing. Same as phones do when using PD fast charging.

[@snakeplissken1754]

I had a acer nitro 5 ryzen 7 5800h + rtx 3080. The powerbrick itself only really provided ~130 watts or so. So in anything cpu and gpu heavy you were draining the battery. Found it a weird design choice and during a longer gaming session you might have ended up with 40% battery left while plugged in. Not really a great design imo, for multiple reasons. Batteries deteriorate so your session time even while plugged in would get shorter and shorter. I think it should be mandatory for a laptops powerbrick to fully sustain the system under heavy load and the battery being not touched in any way when plugged in. Definitely a way of manufacturers to cut costs, but a bad way imo.

[@angrytiger3252]

needed this thanks. Using Lenovo Legion 5i Pro 2023.. it's better and cooler

[@alaintran84]

only 2024 screens seem to be dci-p3 100% certified

[@joelconolly5574]

Been a while since you did a versus video 👏🏻

[@abbosbakhronov6121]

I wondered if you can help me with choosing between two models: Lenovo Legion 5i Pro (Core i7-13700, RTX 4060 -240 hz , 1320 euros) and Acer Helios Neo - (Core i9-14900, RTX-4070, -240hz, 1499 euros). Other details are the same. Please appreciate your advice.

[@CYCLEX666]

obviously the acer.

[@user-pt2el1tt1r]

The Acer, no question

[@minhsontungo3938]

if money is not the problem, then of course go for the acer, but if you want to save as much as possible, lenovo is the way

[@petrub27]

What everyone should be aware before buying any gaming laptop is the horrible fan noise. You need headphones

[@matyasd007]

No if you undervolt and turn off turbo boost

[@unionofslavstanrepublics2317]

Good to see that these are both good overall laptops relative to one another and the real deciding factor between them is pricing and availability.

[@JarrodsTech]

Yeah after reviewing both I thought they were both pretty decent, so figured it was worth doing the first head to head comparison in over a year haha

[@JT11111]

Jarrod please compare the Lenovo Legion 7i vs Zephyrus G16 (4080rtx), because Ive seen the comparison between the 4070 Legion and G16 and the Legion wins comfortably as its fed more power, so I think the G16 with the rtx 4080 will be an interesting comparison

[@vladlazlo]

Rog g16 doesn't have upgradeable ram on both slots. Right?

[@JT11111]

@@vladlazlo yh it doesnt, in terms of upgradability the Legion 7i destroys the G16 as it even has upgradable wifi card, but G16 comes with OLED and 4080rtx which has 12gb vram and the vram is useful for such a thin laptop

[@vladlazlo]

@@JT11111 I am not into OLED screens. xD

[@JT11111]

@@vladlazlo true im not too bothered about it either, but g16 is more portable aswell in general, and better battery life

[@FlorianWerling]

Hi, I really appreciate your videos. I wanted to ask you what you think about the Tulpar-Gaming Laptops, which have a pretty good price and just appeared on the market... I'd be very happy about a response :)

[@deepantomyponnezeth891]

Hi Jarrod! I love your videos and am a huge fan of your presentation method. Can you review the new HP Pavilion Plus (2024) 16-ab1000na Laptop - Core Ultra with RTX 4050!

[@Nick_Zoc]

being a very recent 2024 helios neo 16 i7 14gen w 4060 i say it has served me good for like weeks but i believe you should really buy legion, but dont get me wrong predator is no less from it but it's jut legion has better bios and software cutomization for cpu and gpu as i wanted to undervolt my acer but i couldnt do that

[@RANDOMSHORTS7.]

Jarrod can u do a video on best gaming laptop to buy in 2024

[@JarrodsTech]

Next week

[@TheBadFred]

As if Snapdragon X Elite are not worth mentioning in regard to gaming, the new AMD Strix point this year could be interesting.

[@kerberos4282]

Hello Jarrod, I would like to ask an expert like you a question. Is it safe to play games on modern laptops with an external monitor while the laptop's monitor is closed? Will the laptop overheat? Can this affect the monitor? For example, on a 2024 Acer Predator Helios 16 with a hot i9 14900hx processor. This might be a topic for a new video, thank you.

[@selwing666]

Lol that will put it in sleep which will not allow you to use the external monitor

[@mrbobgamingmemes9558]

He always stress test the laptop with closed lid on reviews

[@jessehurtado1388]

This might be obvious but is there any reason to pick the LOQ over the Legions other than price? I prepared to buy the LOQ next week but if there's a big enough sale I might pick the Legion 5 or slim 5 instead.

[@sprtywashere2077]

Hey Jarrod, how many USB type A ports would I need for a gaming laptop ?

[@shrey522]

I request you to please review Legion 5i pro 2024 and compare it with Li7

[@GT43632]

Yes

[@soothingrelaxmusic6323]

Been planning on taking rog strix g6 , i7 .... Is there a better one that I should consider ??

[@Fimply]

As a predator user, I can say that it's a great laptop. It handles everything I put on it. Plus compare to the legion, the predator is cheaper in my country.

[@doorkum]

What do you use the 180Deg for? Im just curious. Nobody games at 180 deg. So what is it for?

[@michaozga7825]

I wish I trusted Lenovo. I can’t trust the power jack anymore. I’ve replaced mine 2nd time (re soldered) and it’s already overheating again

[@michaozga7825]

@@wish-56 y540 17 inch legion

[@Ejp23_]

Which one is better with an external monitor??

[@muhamadhafizabdullah4841]

Lenovo should have put the LAN port on the left rather then on the right.. a bit hindrance

[@seacowDUGONG]

I'm rocking a Nitro 2022 with a 3070ti and 17-12560h whihc i added 16 gb ram to make it 32 gb ram and since Jarrod showed us how 3070ti is closer in performance to 4070 than you might think it is making me super satisfied that i chose acer over a somewhat superior but much more expensive Lenovo. PS I was pleasantly surprised by the wins by the Helios... i fully expected the lenovo to outperform! Wow For those curious I bought the Acer Nitro for 1230$ ish and got a RAM for another 40$ ish in my currency. So yea Acer all the way... meawhile Lenovo never offered a 3070ti in my country and only sold underpowered 3050 and 4060 or 1600$ 4070 granted with ddr5 ram but still almost 33% costlier.

[@BatyrKerimow-g3t]

If the same specs, helios is cheaper than legion which should I get ? And also is battery life so much different between them ?

[@Comfortably0]

Hey Jarrod, Shouldn't it be 1600p instead of 1440p in gaming benchmark? Both have 16:10 screens I believe.

[@JarrodsTech]

For comparison purposes we do the testing at 1440p, so we can see how every laptop compares to others.

[@user-zi8ew3gp6o]

Lenovo Legion Slim 5 AMD Ryzen 7 Octa Core 8845HS - (16 GB/1 TB SSD/Windows 11 Home/8 GB Graphics/NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060) 16AHP9 Gaming Laptop... is this good to buy, or wait for 5000 series Graphics release ?

[@samsplayground8646]

What is your room temperature while testing it?

[@TECH3_]

Legion 5 with I7 14650HX 4060 and a 1080P 350NITS/165HZ screen was costing me around 100$ more than the I7 14700HX 4060 WQXGA 165HZ screen and on top of that had a longer no interest finance option making it my choice

[@CYCLEX666]

i am not sure but i guess there is a feature to change the refresh rate when power is unplugged

[@Frank9532]

Hi Jarrod! I'm in a specs pickle at the moment. It happens that in my country, the Helios Neo 16 with i9 14th gen + 4060 is priced the same as the 2023 Legion 5 Pro with i9 13th gen + 4070. I work from home, but it is mostly office stuff, and when I game I do on a 1080p 144hz monitor. What would be the better pick, hands down? Thanks man!

[@yesyesyesnoooo7762]

For me they're basically the same, 14th gen is just a bit bumped up 13th gen, 4070 is almost same as 4060 - because of the power limits you won't see the max potential for both unless you buy a Legion 7i Pro with 4080. The only diff between them is the brand and the design. But I'm a Legion fanboy so I bought me myself a 2023 Legion 5i Pro with max specs (maybe same as one of your choices). It's great so far, I use it for video editing, the 4070 is a bit lacking if you'll be doing 3d stuff or any gpu intensive content creation projects but it plows down games like a snow plow in winter. I'm happy for you whatever you choose man!

[@Frank9532]

@@yesyesyesnoooo7762 thanks man I appreciate your answer from the bottom of my kernell 🤖

[@Deeptesh97]

Acer blocks undervolting on their HX units. Complete deal breaker. Undervolting means huge efficiency gains - no performance loss + lower power.

[@Smart_boy2001]

Trying to find a good laptop undervolting is mandatory nowadays with these high performance chips, didn't know Acer locked it as I know all HX series are undervoltable.

[@lone5463]

I'm using acer Helios 16 from 2023. I've never needed to undervolt it, cooling is good by default.

[@Deeptesh97]

@@lone5463 Yea sure buddy, I believe you. Come to tropical countries with 37-40C weather. I'll give you workloads that'll make it throttle in seconds. Moreover undervolting is simply better for the longevity of the components.

[@ImShubhamY]

Some people have mentioned hidden settings in BIOS of Helios, though others have denied it.

[@GT43632]

Helios have better cooling imo so that doesn't matter.moreover,i7 isnt that hot And I live in India and the temperatures of Helios is good.(one of my friend has this Helios laptop .) especially if you have in an Ac room.though i9 might get hot.but u can always use cooling pad .i think biggest problem with acer is after sales service.

[@FabianWinkler]

great comparison. Would be interesting to see a comparison between the Lenovo and the XMG Neo 16