Best or Worst Budget Sound System? | Hornby TTS Vent Van

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[@TheMicksterdee]

I notice that the van has a St Andrew's Cross inside a Circle which would imply in real life that the wagon is condemned for scrapping.

[@budgiedeluxe]

Mick Daubney I didn’t know that. In Aussie we cross out the running numbers and tons

[@SamsTrains]

Duly noted Mick - I wondered if that's what the cross meant! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@Sohave]

Here in Denmark they paint an "S" on them when they are marked for scrap.

[@GaryNumeroUno]

Yes, usually they used to paint a "Cond" on the side too indicating condemned. So it won't be certified for the mainline anymore Sam. Leave it in a dead end siding good buddy with lots of weeds around it.

[@macclane001]

I was thinking hobo symbols, that one means good for a handout.

[@theretrocrowe9389]

I have watched this channel for over a year and I have never once been as entertained as I was at 13:33! The fact that you chose one of the largest locos you have for that made it so much Better!

[@SamsTrains]

haha that's awesome to hear - thanks mate! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@Sumalee21]

Haha!

[@ianhartley395]

Absolutely died laughing at the 9F pulling it to the loop of Greensleeves!!! Also, you made another accidental pun: “the fact that you can pull it along behind a loco has no bearing …..

[@gs425]

"....because the wagon speaks for itself..." Hahahaha brilliant joke you didn't realise you made!

[@SamsTrains]

Oooh yeah!! haha! xD Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@GaryNumeroUno]

Don't forget the doppler effect. Will sound weird if the noise is eminating from a location which is no where near the item being highlighted. The sound needs to be where the item is... i.e. church.

[@alancarpenter2070]

Hi Sam, the "Chuffing" on the "Electric train stopping" is the Westinghouse Air Pump for the brakes etc. I know this because I used to travel on the "Mersey Rail" trains a lot in m younger years and you would hear the pumps go on and off during your journey. They would even operate periodically whilst stopped for some time at a terminus, to keep the air pressure up. I would go for the "Bluetooth" speaker idea. Larger speakers give better quality sound. You only have to listen to the internal speaker of a tablet then listen to it through an extension speaker or headphones to hear the difference. Regards, Alan :)

[@SamsTrains]

Duly noted Alan, thanks a lot for sharing that! Yes I think the Bluetooth option would definitely be my choice too! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@SgtThurston6738]

God the van playing "Green Facings" reminded me of the ice cream van that passed mine every evening on it's rounds. Dang thing was so loud you could hear it across town!

[@SamsTrains]

haha absolutely - we used to have one like that too! xD Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@homer4635]

*Greensleeves

[@Loweko1170]

The additional pickups are supposed to be so you can hardwire the van into a specific spot on the layout and hook up a permanent power connection. The idea is that with that "condemned" logo sprayed on the side, you can leave it in a station siding as an old derelict.

[@SamsTrains]

Very interesting! It's odd though - there's one per wheel, yet the pickups work just fine... why would you need to hardwire it?! :O Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@raymondo162]

i had some piezo transducers from maplins, which were coin-sized discs with two wires. i stuck them on the baseboard next to a turnout and plugged the wires in to my stereo. the nuts.

[@raymondo162]

relevant i guess: the rails were screwed direct to the baseboard.....................

[@SamsTrains]

haha that sounds pretty cool mate!! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@MRacer001]

Comparing it to a video game is a fairly loaded comparison. Compare it to something like a dinner or something which only gives you, what half hour of time to eat, and you will find the wagon doesn't look so bad.

[@SamsTrains]

I chose something appealing to kids - the video game comparison works better than dinner as a result, and was better for the point I was trying to make! :) Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@bjoe385]

Dude come on man, I’m still waiting for TTS sound Bullman.

[@SamsTrains]

haha I'd love that!! xD Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@StandardGoose]

I second the motion.

[@tjmfarming9584]

I third this motion

[@CarminesRCTipsandTricks]

Happy Sunday Sam!! 😉 Say Mate, if you're looking for a proper Sound Card for real Wagon Sounds... See if you can get Soundtraxx Products over there. They make a Chip (Decoder) called "SoundCar". You simply fit it to any piece of Rolling Stock with Metal Wheels. The Sound Card includes Clackety Clack, Brake Squeal (programmable to apply only on deceleration in the final 3 speed steps before stop - BETTER than the Loco Chip!!). Also Flat Spotted Wheel banging, Brake apparatus hissing and squeaking, and assorted Box Panel banging. All of which is programmable through CVs! It has its own address. It's a quality product, with good volume and sound quality. THAT bit of kit you've got there, I'd say more for the beginner to intermediate DCC user, who think that the effect is pretty cool. Priced right, it would be at home on several Layouts. Love the CRASH sound!! 😜 The Bluetooth Speaker sounded considerably more full. Cheers 🍻🍻 Carmine ✈🚂🚙

[@SamsTrains]

Happy Sunday mate - ooh I'll look into that, thanks so much for the tips! :D Cheers, Sam :)

[@SimplyTakuma]

13:35 Well....when you put Olton Hall in front it would be magical 😂

[@SamsTrains]

haha very true!! ;D

[@raymondleggs5508]

When your train sounds like an ice-cream truck :-D

[@mickd6942]

Raymond Leggs spotters used to call the prototype deltic the icecream van because of it's colours lol

[@SamsTrains]

haha!! xD

[@howardrosenberg1640]

The first TTS van R6888 had passing wagons, flange squeal sounds. Looping these sounds and pulling it slowly behind an 08 shunter does work. At least I now know where the shunter is on the track! Cheaper than installing loksound etc.

[@SamsTrains]

Ahh nice, many thanks for sharing!! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@bentullett6068]

I thought this was a great idea for giving atmosphere to a layout. If I had enough space to create another layout (possibly on Highley station on the Severn Valley Railway) I would have it DCC and buy one of these to put in the siding near the signal box.

[@SamsTrains]

Yes it's a good idea - but I'd strongly suggest looking into some of the other sound solutions explored in the video - you can get much more for your money! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@bentullett6068]

@@SamsTrains maybe remove the sound decoder from the wagon and install it in a building with a better speaker.

[@shinvelcro]

13:50 Ice cream train for the drivers in the summer

[@SamsTrains]

haha!! ;D

[@GaryNumeroUno]

Pardon the pun in advance... it's obviously... an ice cream van!

[@FlyingScotsman-vv1jh]

Hi Sam great video. Just letting you know I was at crewe station today and on my way out past the heritage Centre I saw a lovely pair of class 47 Deltic diesels in BR Blue and BR Green livery coupled up to what looks like 1960's Pullman coaches. Maybe its worth having a look and featuring them in a future video. Many thanks

[@SamsTrains]

Oh wow that does sound awesome - thanks for the tip, I'd love to do that! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@kiwitrainguy]

Deltic? Class 47s ???

[@greg_mmm]

There's a manufacturer here in the US called "Broadway Limited Imports" that does something very similar to your idea with the Bluetooth speaker. It is quite a lot more expensive, but it connects to the sound system in their locomotives and it adds a lot more bass to the sound as well as being capable of playing the preloaded ambient sounds.

[@SamsTrains]

I've been hearing about that - I'd love to try such a thing! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@dtb2654]

The Vent Van 1 also had a lot of wheel resistance to the extent it could not be run effectively. The Vent Van 1 had some workshop sounds so mine sits alongside the loco shed though it isn't used that often because when running the sound fitted diesels they drown it out. 35 quid for me is third way too another sound decoder so I won't be bothering with this one. Thanks for the review Sam.

[@SamsTrains]

Yes I saw the same issue with this one for sure! haha that's fair enough! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@shakeyhandsshedmodelrailwa2494]

X in a circle was indeed the condemned sign often found with the lettering " cond " condemed vehicles were often left in stations for dry storage areas i remember condemned newspaper vans being left in the bay platforms at manchester victoria ,,,, so a great idea for sound in your station , goods yard or sheds

[@crouchingtigerhiddenadam1352]

Raspberry Pi Zero with Speaker pHAT. Now you can program the sound with the speed, small enough to fit in a brake van or coach so the sound moves. Report location, remote uncoupler through GPIO.

[@SamsTrains]

Fantastic - I'd love to see that done! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@xenon53827]

So I pinched some audio and now, everytime a train comes out of the tunnel we hear, "Hello there everybody, Sam's trains here, welcome back to the railway." Then a long moo from what could be bullman. I am having fun with this!

[@SamsTrains]

haha that's awesome!! xD Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@briandunning2974]

You missed a category of user. I want eventually to get into scratch building etc but I’m still working on the fiddle yard etc. I’m taking cheap quick solutions as interim measures. E.g. Metcalfe platform which has now been replaced with totally customised from balsa, plasticard and 302 individual edging bricks. Sitting in the siding as condemned, this gives some added background sound until I can afford the time to do better. I found your Bluetooth information very helpful. Thanks.

[@SamsTrains]

Duly noted Brian - and glad to hear the bluetooth solution was of interest to you! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@iceeblueburst03]

7:13 That’s nice attention to detail right there. It looks like someone is trying to repair this old vent van along with replacing the old parts.

[@SamsTrains]

Yeah I agree - I liked that too! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@trainguy611]

When I heard the sound for the first few seconds of this vid I bursted out laughing, I actually thought April Fools Day came early

[@SamsTrains]

haha I know!! xD

[@TANGARASandOSCARS]

11:00 the 'steam train sound' is the air compressor firing to recharge the brakes on the emu.

[@SamsTrains]

Ahh thanks a lot for that mate! Cheers, Sam :)

[@DoubleX8620]

Sounds like a fun little wagon. I might get one. The price is also very decent. The car crash sound was my favorite. Great review Sam👍

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks mate - they are great fun for the money! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@iceeblueburst03]

I predicted to myself that the TTS vent van will probably have a sound with animals inside it since I was thinking to myself that there would be cows or sheep inside of the vent van. But no, it looks like the sound of a background noise when roaming across the railway. That’s a nice idea for a sound, especially on a TTS vent van! :)

[@SamsTrains]

haha absolutely - it was a pretty safe bet!! ;D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@iceeblueburst03]

0:19 I love how you didn’t put any music during that portion of the video. I guess it’s because we wanted to hear the sound and what is going on with the sound it’s making. Nice attention to detail there Sam! :)

[@SamsTrains]

Yes indeed - that's the reason! :D

[@Chaostheory1971]

Can just picture you, Sam sat in the back of the van selling ice creams when Greensleaves was playing ;)

[@SamsTrains]

haha!! xD

[@bvlcorail]

As a serious modeler, I completely agree with what you say about the sound effects. I was able to add a 4" speaker with an Arduino and MP3 player module to add ambient noise to my layout, as well as having it automatically play effects for loading and unloading. All of this was done for much less than 25 pounds, and it sounds a lot better. Most of my sound effects did come from free sound effect websites.

[@SamsTrains]

Yes you're right - I'm not too sure they thought this one through! A bit more market research on their customers might have revealed some of this valuable information!! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@MRacer001]

You can also play 3 sounds at once if you use a normal controller

[@SamsTrains]

Ooh is it 3 sounds? Very cool! :D

[@lukehughes6094]

Great video Sam. Nice weathering on the wagon. Like amount of sound that were listed and the sound that were used.

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks a lot Luke - yes the selection of sounds was impressive! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@tomlawton7087]

So do we have to modify the brake lever to set the brakes on. And an excellent case for three link coupling, if it is to be stationary!

[@SamsTrains]

haha I think you would yes! Very true on the three links too! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@BoaFilmsPlc]

Hi Sam, yes you are correct the white X in a ring is a condemned vehicle. TTS sound is budget sound. A Loksound V5 with South Western Digital sound files loaded are £115 from places like Kernow models

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks for that - that does make sense! Yes indeed - I thought the price was very reasonable! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@timboyle3114]

I think its a great idea! Yes that looks like a condemned wagon so dumped in a siding would work. Ditch those horrendous couplings and it would look great as stationary piece. Modification wise you could take the chip out and wire it into a station or other place with a better speaker I'm sure taking a feed from the track should not be a hard. Options are endless! How about a grounded wagon on a farm?

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks a lot Tim - yeah it'd be fine in a siding with no couplings - great suggestions! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@jonswinfield9336]

You had the same idea as me I haven’t looked recently but years ago I downloaded loads of Southern railways sound files to my laptop There must be loads more now A phone app is a fantastic idea I can’t believe Hornby haven’t thought themselves!😊

[@SamsTrains]

Ooh awesome - you could put a SR sound app together with all those then!! :O Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@richardlee653]

I have a Gaugemaster GM781 Scenic sound module - Steam-era station. I run it off the station and street light power supply, although I think it is intended more for DCC. It is a little cheaper than the Hornby wagon, and doesn't take up track space. From your video I get the feeling that it might be a little better sound quality than the wagon, but not as good as your Bluetooth speaker. On the other hand, I don't have to worry about finding sound effects and working out how to download them, how to put them on an MP3 player, and then how to control the MP3 player.

[@SamsTrains]

That sounds very interesting Richard - I might have to try one of those myself, thanks a lot for letting me know! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@Shipwright1918]

One thing I see a lot of budget minded modellers doing to get sound for their layouts is getting tiny rechargable Bluetooth speakers and putting them in wagons, then piping in the sounds from a smartphone or a computer. Personally I like this approach as it works equally well for both conventional and DCC layouts.

[@SamsTrains]

Yeah absolutely - I think bluetooth is definitely the way to go for sound! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@phil36310]

Hi Sam, Got myself an ice cream now ...while listening to the sheep... That 'sound wagon' is just a silly gadget to forget about. Greetings.

[@SamsTrains]

haha!! I think that's probably fair to say mate! Cheers, Sam :)

[@ciaranburke3243]

Great video sam , the bluetooth speaker idea is brilliant I have one beside my layout for music, must try it with train sounds 👍

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks a lot Ciaran - I can definitely recommend it! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@skyrocket0113]

14:07 - Cheers for the vid mate! Sounds like an ice cream van mate, lol!👍🚂🚃🚃🚃🚅🚄🚉😁👍

[@SamsTrains]

haha thanks Jin - it certainly does!! xD Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@MapTheDragonRailways]

You need to run the wagon with the ice cream van music and run an ice cream van on a wagon behind it 😂.

[@SamsTrains]

haha I know!! xD

[@DC4260Productions]

13:08 - As a semi-frequent Grand Theft Auto 5 player, I am familiar with the sound of a car crash. And it seems like the railway is having a major engine shortage, otherwise they would have got the Hattons P class to take the single van instead of a whopping great Crosti 9F.

[@SamsTrains]

haha me too, lol!! Yes that's true - it was a passive-aggressive way to demonstrate how much drag the wagon causes ;) Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@thomasholmes7716]

I have a hornby 66 with tts sound and the original speeker was really bad, so I got a better speaker and put it on and the sound quality was much clearer and louder.

[@SamsTrains]

Great to hear that - that suggests that the quality from the decoder isn't a big issue! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@kiwitrainguy]

When it comes to speakers, size really does matter.

[@XCrawlFan]

Lolz...@ 0:20 does the TARDIS have a DCC chip slot?😃😁 Great video!

[@trapdriver7006]

I think the concept is good in that you have the van on a siding so you can play the sounds to create atmosphere however the sound quality lets it down .Hornby should have created a guards van with interior lights and lamps ,guards whistle.clickety clack;these are just a few ideas which would add atmosphere to the train in motion.I would not buy the sound van asI cannot see a use for it.The X on the van means its been condemmed and will be scrapped or sold off and end up in a farmers field as a shed in the sixties and seventies and later as they could be bought for a few pounds .I enjoyed the video Sam.

[@SamsTrains]

Yes you're right Tony - a guards van idea would have been great actually! I thought so re the X on the side! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@melchestermodelrailway]

I bought the first version of this, but frankly, wish I hadn't bothered. The only sound I regularly used was the Owl!

[@SamsTrains]

Sorry to hear that mate - the owl noises sound cool!! :O Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@andrewweaver2909]

Hi sam if you remove the tts chip and put in a steam or diesel train chip that can produce sound on dc would it work as a dc sound wagon for any train?

[@SamsTrains]

Yes that would work, but you'd need to load the correct sounds into the decoder of course! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@paulkandi]

Would be nice to have a city, town or country background sound , this would be a deep bass sound with all sorts of sounds traffic, people and aircraft all mixed in... several speakers mounted at different spots around the layout..the TTS system is ok but not a serious objective...great vid as usual..

[@snowtiggr]

How about in a running session you have your Garret hauling the rail gun and breakdown crane its only three items but the lenth !!!

[@SamsTrains]

Ooh that would be epic - very cool idea!! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@thomasthetankdank9708]

you should add a scrap yard to your layout the vans would look great in it!

[@SamsTrains]

Great idea! I'd love to try that! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@MRacer001]

Those 'loose' pickups are where you are supposed to hard wire the wagon up. It says that in the instructions

[@SamsTrains]

Interesting - though why should there need to be one for each wheel?! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@iceeblueburst03]

Who needs a TTS vent van when we got our Bluetooth speakers to deal with situations like this where we want to have random sounds playing. :P

[@SamsTrains]

Yeah exactly mate!!

[@martensiersma3304]

The problem with any sound system is that the speakers are too small to reproduce bass notes. Bli makes a satellite/subwoofer system but it only works with bli systems

[@SamsTrains]

Absolutely right - it definitely wasn't sounding too good! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@thewrays491]

I always look forward to seeing your new videos

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks so much mate!! :D

[@sirmugman]

seems more this would work better with either 2 things, 1/ a program were you put sound clips into the wagon that when it goes past a certain area it makes a noise then another noise and again but ??? on how to program that maybe on one of those digital number pads controllor, 2/ for it to have lil strips under the rails which like singles on newer train turns the light to yellow/red but here when the wagon runs over it again it triggers the sound maybe a few swishes or something lazer? no idea but i guess this will do,

[@SamsTrains]

Yes I'd agree with you there mate - good points! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@robmasterman]

Fascinating review Sam, and another example of inferior products being produced at extortionate prices...Other than that, I'm lost for words...Bob

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks a lot Bob, you could well be right there! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@jembrackett6319]

It has the condemned symbol on it so confined to a siding .

[@olliemckprice9428]

*Ice cream van has entered the railway* lol loved the review -Ollie

[@SamsTrains]

haha thanks a lot Ollie!! :D

[@mickd6942]

The waggon has the condemned sign on the side so yes to be parked in a siding

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks Mick - I thought that's what it was! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@Antluvstrains]

Putting this with any movie locos will make this funnier.

[@jackhebert3780]

I didn’t even know wagons could be dcc sound fitted.

[@SamsTrains]

I know - there aren't many!! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@StandardGoose]

In theory you could put a dcc/tts sound chip in anything. Stick one in a building by the side of the track if you like. So long as it's electrically connected to the controller, it'll work. The chip doesn't know where you've put it. I quite like the idea of putting one inside an engine shed.

[@tomlawton7087]

Jonathon Cowley-Thom The key thing is that most decoders need a motor connected. From the Lais website, approx 750 ohms works (without too much power being dissipated)

[@David_Twomey]

hello sam i think that this is aimed at the train show layouts people that want sound of a real life railway and more realism and I don't really want one of these because it would drive me and my family crazy and think of having 10 of these in one train at the same time and love the video from david

[@SamsTrains]

The bluetooth solution is still better for that application though - since they're louder! haha that's very wise!! ;D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@zendoargos4988]

If you had a really nice layout with a stockyard setting and were looking for the last little detail to take it over the top throwing that in with other wagons and having either the cattle or sheep sound operate in that one area would be great. Otherwise it seems like a very odd product.

[@SamsTrains]

Possibly - though alternative (and cheaper) systems could do the same thing better! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@matthewjones3246]

Can I ask you might of talked about this before but how come you leave your track on the carpet I've been told that it can damage your trains

[@SamsTrains]

It doesn't damage the trains provided you keep everything clean - I'm the living proof of that! That's just the way I built it, temporarily at first, then my channel took off and I decided not to alter it! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@matthewjones3246]

@@SamsTrains can I ask how do you keep the track in place

[@ianhaynes5898]

Reminds me of a line from Rudyard Kipling's 'Conundrum of the Workshops'; "It's clever, but is it Art?'. As you say, you would be better with a Bluetooth speaker in a building.

[@SamsTrains]

haha that rings very true here! ;D

[@ianhaynes5898]

I hope I managed to get someone to look up the poem to fine out what it was all about.

[@AberystwythStation]

Amazing! - apart from the quality of the speaker/sound file. It's like A BBC Sounds Record in a wagon! 👍 GWR

[@AberystwythStation]

I have also developed my own Bluetooth sound system, which works wirelessly on board the locomotive. GWR

[@SamsTrains]

haha thank you - yeah you're right! Wow that sounds very impressive! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@AberystwythStation]

@@SamsTrains Hi Sam. The components are basically what is inside a Bluetooth speaker. So there's a Bluetooth receiver, which has a power input - just two AAA batteries (or about 3V+), this then leads to an amplifier unit. The amplifier unit then has an output for Left & Right speakers, - yes, you CAN have two separate speakers playing different levels. The two units take up just the space of about 3x3x3cm - very compact, and plenty of space left in the engine tender (or whatever you're using) for two high quality speakers. GWR

[@iceeblueburst03]

13:32 It sounds like an Ice Cream truck! 🤣 Perhaps inside the vent van is a couple of coolers with some Nestles drumstick ice cream inside them. We might also have some ice cream sandwiches and popsicles too. Looks like the 9F is doing its job by carrying 1 vent van full of coolers with ice cream and popsicles inside them. #WeAllScreamForIceCream 🍦🍨

[@SamsTrains]

haha I know - it really does! Ooh that's quite a thought! ;D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@iceeblueburst03]

The weathering on the vent van looks pretty damn realistic.

[@SamsTrains]

Yeah it does - it's very good!! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@preetbarot9093]

Sam how many days do hattons deliver to out of Europe

[@SamsTrains]

I'm not sure about that, as I love in Europe - work asking them the question online! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@preetbarot9093]

@@SamsTrains thanks for ur so much help

[@Mariazellerbahn]

7:08 X means condemned / for scrap and not to be used on main lines.

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks for that Al - I thought so! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@farric1]

I remember back in the 70s seeing lots of rolling stock with the crudely painted cross and circle with the word "COND" splashed above. You knew next stop was the breakers! Talking of which, the hornby van idea reminds me of the old "scalextric sound" of yore. Quite naff...a bit like all those singing billy bass novelty items. LOL. BTW where did you get your sound samples from? That seems a way more intelligent option.

[@SamsTrains]

Interesting, thanks a lot for sharing that mate! The sounds I played were just found on KZbin! O: Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@theravenq673]

Awesome Video Sam,I gave my little sister an idea to start a model railway,i gave her my Dean goods so she can see the experience,~Henry

[@SamsTrains]

Ooh that's fantastic Henry - what a great thing to do! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@StandardGoose]

It would probably be pretty straightforward to add some pick-ups and a TTS sound chip to, say, an old brake van, which you could then use with any locomotive you like. That's got to be cheaper than adding TTS sound to multiple existing locomotives. I'm giving serious consideration to fitting a TTS sound chip inside an engine shed building.

[@SamsTrains]

Cool idea, that'd certainly be possible to do! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@budgiedeluxe]

I bet you could make a Aussie version. You buy a steam era “cattle car or box van” kit and install sound into the kit.

[@SamsTrains]

Ooh that'd be awesome!! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@nicolaiitchenko7610]

Take off the wheels and axles, flatten out the details on the under-frame, set it on blocks in a yard as a shed for the works department. Run some hidden wires to it and set her to whatever sequence that you prefer...That's what will happen to mine....

[@SamsTrains]

Great idea Frank - that'd work a treat! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@LNER985]

I personally like the concept of the Hornby TTS wagon and would rather that then. A sound system stuck inside a building one part of a layout. As being able to move the wagon around them to different locations to add to bring more life out of the layout. I am pretty I not the only one that likes to have wagons sat in sidlings to make it make the layout feel unless empty and when buying TTS. I don't expect the speakers to top of the range of quality of speakers and apart from changing speakers. Most modelers don't do much customizing to their sound locomotives.

[@SamsTrains]

That's fair enough John - it certainly is more portable, if that's something you need! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@shornford]

With couplings, surely it is to be pulled around?

[@SamsTrains]

haha exactly, you'd think so! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@jackamus_prime5062]

That church bell sound on a rolling stock mind me of I used to play a very old Microsoft trainz railways simulator 2006 PC games😐xxxx

[@SamsTrains]

haha really, did MSTS make those noises too?! :O Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@jackamus_prime5062]

Yes is true I do used to play Microsoft trainz railways simulator 2006 I was about 7 or 8 years old time after or before I first join dovetail games TS2016 if you like play a old Microsoft trainz railways simulator you have to buy it on steam website.

[@zackerist2]

Shame it couldn’t make normal wagon noises but it’s still pretty good in my book

[@SamsTrains]

I think it does have some normal wagon noises installed! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@GaryNumeroUno]

Do not play the sheep sound too long... don't want to get the New Zealanders excited! Hehehe... 🐑

[@SamsTrains]

haha very true!! xD

[@jeffreymcneal1507]

Another superb Sam’s Review. And it saved me 35 quid plus 20 quid in shipping. BTW, is Sam’s Train Repair open for business?

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks a lot Jeffrey, no problem - not really worth it! No sadly not, I quit doing that since going full time on KZbin! :( Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@Heroduothecomedian]

This is interesting and i wonder if hornby had in mind of people buying more then to make the sound effects louder or not?

[@SamsTrains]

I'm not sure about that mate - but you can alter the volume on the decoder - though the volume isn't much of a problem! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@peteryoung4957]

Why all of a sudden do I fancy an ice cream. Being the first attempt from Hornby, I feel sure they will get better, over time .

[@SamsTrains]

haha I wonder why?! This is the second attempt mind you, they released the first one last year! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@kineuhansen8629]

love to see a ruin model wagon could be fun

[@SamsTrains]

haha ruin one?!? :O

[@rawstonemodelrailway]

The wireless speaker is such a good tip :)

[@CyanShock]

Its a cool idea, I'd probably get one if it was like super on sale, not at full price though.

[@SamsTrains]

Yeah definitely - if it were cheaper, it'd be a fine novelty! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@geoffwalker315]

If the sounds are needed e.g. on an exhibition layout it would be better to remove it from the wagon, attach a decent speaker and hide the system under the board. Don't forget to connect it to the bus.

[@SamsTrains]

Yes that's right Geoff - a decent speaker would no doubt help! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@steamie98]

Could you do a race on your layout between different companies or steam vs diesel?

[@SamsTrains]

Ooh that's a cool idea Steamy! :D

[@Steamer96]

Broadway Limited Imports did something similar with their cattle cars, when the train moves the livestock make sounds. I think Hornby should've had this wagon make the sounds what a wagon like that should make rather than random things.

[@SamsTrains]

Ahh very cool - I'll have to take a look at those! Yes I agree! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@kiwitrainguy]

Bachmann USA has a cattle car like that with sounds and also where the cattle pop their heads in and out of openings in the wagon body as it goes along.

[@Sohave]

I get the point, but if I wanted scenery noises lets say farm noises as an example, I would place a stationary speaker in a farm house or farm shack. I would never emit them from within a train.

[@SamsTrains]

That's exactly my point too - there's no reason why the system should need to be contained within a wagon! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@mattbov14]

Hi sam. Not sure it for me. Buy a fun thing I suppose. If no one else has noticed that the car crash sound is the same that was used in Gerry Anderson shows like thunderbirds and captain captain scarlet. Still sounds good to these days. Cheers matt

[@SamsTrains]

Fair enough mate! haha yeah you're right - it's a stock sound effect, used quite often! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@davidmolin8944]

I don't have any sound system on my layout due to the price of a KATO sound controller and chip so I don't find a reason for a dcc sound system

[@SamsTrains]

Ooh that sounds interesting - is that effective?? :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@davidstrains4910]

Great video Sam I personally think it is a bit expensive for just a basic van that isn’t as detailed and to pay for something that is just intended to just sit on the layout and not be used is a bit of a waste I think

[@SamsTrains]

Yes the van itself isn't excellent - but I'd say the value is pretty on point! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@ModelRailwaysUnlimited]

Interesting stuff, prefer the speaker, the van would be better with freight sounds, shunting, running etc

[@SamsTrains]

Yes that's true Mike - it would be better with sounds like that! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@jembrackett6319]

The O with the X in it does mean it is condemned so should not leave the siding.

[@rmlectronicsuk2410]

The 12v dc symbol on the base concerns me. As we know, DCC isn’t 12v dc...........presumably it has some gadgetry inside to work on dc or DCC?

[@SamsTrains]

Yeah you're right - that is pretty inaccurate actually! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@Iwan_89C]

TTS sound decoders individually are more like £40-45, not £30. Looks interesting, I look forward to watching the review!

[@SamsTrains]

Rails have them for £33 mostly - but I tried to be conservative in those prices! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@rydermike33]

Very good review Sam. Totally agree with your conclusions. Poor old Hornby, missed the mark on that one, unfortunately.

[@SamsTrains]

Glad you enjoyed it Mike, thanks a lot! Cheers, Sam :)