Best Responses to a Covert Narcissist's Emotional Attacks?

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Lise Leblanc

Lise Leblanc

Күн бұрын

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@gc4644
@gc4644 6 күн бұрын
Was married to a covert narcissistic wife for 20 years, after the divorce it literally took me 7 years before i even started to feel like my old self. These monsters truly steal everything that makes you you, and even when you get away from them, it still takes a VERY long time to refind yourself.
@alexameskoa1010
@alexameskoa1010 6 күн бұрын
Damn, I was with one for 15 years. During that time I found my own ways to defend myself even though I wasn't familiar to what Cluster B disorders were, kinda proud of that but now I find it getting harder now that I'm approaching 3 years of being narc free. I was happy and dating for a while but while dating I noticed behaviors within myself that made me decide to stop dating. I don't want to be vampire to someone elses life like she was to mine. I was wondering if you have any tips to speed up the process.
@jayroneru4244
@jayroneru4244 6 күн бұрын
man i almost lost my good paying job from where im from lucky i have it back we both work there but luckily she works a different shift then i do i avoid talking to anyone but my friends there and i just do my job now they are ruthless with no sense of empathy
@gc4644
@gc4644 6 күн бұрын
@alexameskoa1010 I found surrounding myself with family, my church congregation, and close friends helped most. But damn it, it still takes a looong time to get her out of your system (even with remembering all her aweful attacks and gaslighting). A friend told me once that when you get yourself to the "I just honestly don't give a $hit about her anymore", only then can you consider yourself "over her".
@Glassgirl424
@Glassgirl424 5 күн бұрын
7 years??? My goodness, that is discouraging, but doesn't surprise me. It's so sad it takes so long to "de-program" all the damage.
@chrishernandez9404
@chrishernandez9404 4 күн бұрын
Congrats on finding yourself. I know I'm not feeling like myself and hard to just be happy. 10 years in, 2 girls together. I managed to make sure I stay around my girls and help balance them. Anyone with tips or advice, how can I leave the narc and not risk her twisting up my girls in the narc ways? Any ideas, help; I'll be very great full. Kinda sucks but nice to know I'm not alone.
@lindltailor
@lindltailor 9 күн бұрын
The last point was definitely my fault, I always tried to apply logic to the problem behaviors, and tried to help her gain insight of how we are getting derailed, asked her to please help us out and I will do the same, but it just digs the hole deeper and deeper. And it is a rabbit hole of epic proportions
@treydudley
@treydudley 7 күн бұрын
Yup. Trying to save her and the relationship. Trying to get her to improve, but that’s not what she’s interested in.
@nyptblueone7734
@nyptblueone7734 7 күн бұрын
Exactly! Logic is not something they want to hear about. It infuriates them even more. They like living in a world where 2+2 = 5.
@a.figueiraroxa9859
@a.figueiraroxa9859 6 күн бұрын
She will improve,she will become better in the game she play
@clintonnagy1662
@clintonnagy1662 6 күн бұрын
I read these comments and everyone has an interesting point of view that I can relate to. You mentioned the rabbit hole and that's exactly what it is...a hole so deep it goes straight to hell. I kept letting myself go deeper & deeper until I had to climb out... These cluster B personalities make NO sense. The answer is to STOP ruminating on what they say because it makes NO sense, only to them. I wasted 2 years of my life on a woman I THOUGHT was the ONE. I didn't die the hero, I lived long enough to become the villian.
@legeneralalexander6618
@legeneralalexander6618 6 күн бұрын
Same here. I tried to find solutions for her, to make her see that her erratic behavior was eroding our relationship, kindly suggested going to therapy, yoga, anything to help her manage her overwhelming emotions. It would backfire of course. She would then accuse me of trying to break her already fragile self esteem. If I tried simply listening to her victim stories (victim of her upbringing, her exes, her coworkers, her poor health, her "disrespectful" daughter...), she would see my lack of reaction as evidence that I didn't care about her and never loved her. It took me almost 3 years to understand. They don't want solutions. They want control. They get that control by creating and sustaining a swiss-precision cycle of drama and love-bombing. Rinse and repeat
@heyoldman2003
@heyoldman2003 7 күн бұрын
Oh how i wish 😲OH how i wish i heard these words 40 years ago … you young’s guys listen to this Lady snd save your heart for a good Woman . someone who truly cares for you . man … 40 years i can’t get back .. but today i have found a true and trusted friend i met at 5 years old 😊 we married one year ago and we are both VERY HAPPY ❤️❤️❤️. thank you Lise your wise words helped me so much 😎
@marknieuweboer8099
@marknieuweboer8099 6 күн бұрын
Using these tactics requires two conditions: 1. Admit to yourself that the narcissist is not interested in solving problems; 2. Emotional distance or better still disconnect. This applies to all emotional abusers.
@waynecoles4059
@waynecoles4059 6 күн бұрын
Thank you for not showing the victim as a woman. Us men suffer as well from narcissistic abuse.
@Kallejulmust
@Kallejulmust 10 күн бұрын
What a great blessing so many of your teachings have been to me. I find your manner of presentation both calm and soothing. Could merrily listen to you all day. Thank you so much for all your help.
@LiseLeblanc
@LiseLeblanc 9 күн бұрын
@@Kallejulmust thank you for your kind words, I really appreciate it!
@katalinipacs8007
@katalinipacs8007 6 күн бұрын
​@@LiseLeblanc I agree with the above posted comment...its so pleasant to listen to your voice and the way how you explain us everything. Thank you for your videos!!!❤😘
@zafarhasanreza8716
@zafarhasanreza8716 2 күн бұрын
I am getting so much wisdom from your description of narcissists and from your advisory for how to respond to her/ them.
@Victoria-c4n
@Victoria-c4n 5 күн бұрын
So sad for those who can’t LEAVE their situation.
@StarWindEnergin
@StarWindEnergin 7 күн бұрын
Another great video Lise, just wanted to again express my appreciation for helping so many people.
@Ej.-fc5md
@Ej.-fc5md 7 күн бұрын
1000% agreed!
@mathews0618
@mathews0618 6 күн бұрын
Ignore them. Laugh at them. Dont feed into it
@Bibleinformationandhelp
@Bibleinformationandhelp 7 күн бұрын
If your narcissist is behaving badly, go no contact. Stop communicating with them. Don't text, speak on the phone, or do any type of communication with them. You may have to go to no contact for months or maybe years. Choose to not contact them until their behavior becomes better. As far as, their rudeness becomes less. Don't argue. State whatever you have to say then leave it there. Don't become overly aggravated. I think they will like that. If you feel yourself becoming too angry, stop speaking to them.
@nyptblueone7734
@nyptblueone7734 7 күн бұрын
I hear you but it’s not always possible to do. In cases in which you can’t the strategies laid out in this video work well.
@MYNAME_ABC
@MYNAME_ABC 6 күн бұрын
Great idea. And what about the kids?? You seem to have NO ANY idea what dealing with such a monster means once she manipulates the kids against you.
@sandys2672
@sandys2672 6 күн бұрын
If they start abusing the kids because you won’t react, start recording! You will need proof because the kids will probably back the narcissist.
@x-2954
@x-2954 6 күн бұрын
A covert narcissist is someone who craves admiration and importance as well as lacks empathy toward others but can act in a different way than an overt narcissist. When considering the behavior of narcissists, it might be hard to imagine how someone could be a narcissist and be inhibited in their approach and behavior. A covert narcissist may be outwardly self-effacing or withdrawn in their approach, but the end goals are the same. For example, this might be described as listening to your favorite song while blasting the volume, compared to listening to that same song on a low volume. The song itself hasn't changed, just the volume in which you are listening. Covert narcissists are only different from overt (more obvious) narcissists in that they tend to be more introverted. The overt narcissist is easily identified because they tend to be loud, arrogant, and insensitive to the needs of others and always thirsty for compliments Their behaviors can be easily observed by others and tend to show up as "big" in a room. When we think of an overt narcissist, we could say they demonstrate more extroverted behaviors in their interactions with others. Many people have fallen victim to the manipulative behaviors of a covert narcissist without realizing what has happened until they are already in emotional pain. It might be more accurate to suggest that the extroverted (overt) narcissist would be a lot easier to see coming than the introverted (covert) narcissist. It is not unusual for people to find themselves in long-term relationships with covert narcissists only to be hurt by a sense of a lack of partnership or reciprocity in the relationship The covert narcissist certainly craves importance and thirsts for admiration but it can look different to those around them. They might give back-handed compliments, or purposefully minimize their accomplishments or talents so that people will offer them reassurance of how talented they are. The overt narcissist will demand admiration and attention, where the covert narcissist will use softer tactics to meet those same goals. The covert narcissist will be much more likely to constantly seek reassurance about their talents, skills, and accomplishments, looking for others to feed that same need for self-importance. Shaming others is a wonderful tactic of the narcissist in order to secure their sense of an elevated position in relation to others. The overt (extroverted) narcissist might be more obvious in their approach to gaining leverage, such as explicitly putting you down, being rude, criticizing you, and being sarcastic. covert narcissists can take joy in creating confusion for someone they are interacting with. They may not engage in blaming or shaming, but instead, causing people to question their perceptions and second-guess themselves. Because their need for self-importance reigns supreme, covert narcissists will do whatever they need to do in order to keep the focus on themselves. So, where an extroverted narcissist will blatantly push you aside or manipulate you to accomplish their goal, the covert narcissist is a professional at not acknowledging you at all. In general, narcissists are not givers. They find it difficult to put energy into anything that doesn't serve them in some way. A covert narcissist might present themselves in a way that looks like they are giving, but their giving behavior is only demonstrated with the intent of getting something in return. A simple, everyday example could be something like putting a tip in the jar at your local coffee shop. A covert narcissist would be much more likely to put their tip in the jar when they know the barista is looking, in order to help facilitate some kind of interaction that allows them to be praised for giving. Additionally, If you need to uncover the truth about a cheating narcissist, send your request to *MetaspyHub@gmail. com* for discreet and effective assistance.
@noeldelarosa_ph
@noeldelarosa_ph 6 күн бұрын
Using everything she knew about me -- against me -- is underestimated. This was the most frustrating thing about her. Making everything all my fault was what really gave her away. She used childbirth and my flaws to give herself power. Believe me everything was a contest. Finally after almost seven years and several times coming back I realized we were playing different games. She didn't just want to win she wanted to dominate. Thankfully I was smart enough to see this and saw her trying to control the narrative. It took a long while to see that there was someone like this in the world. I was so naive.
@pilzmaedchen4294
@pilzmaedchen4294 4 күн бұрын
And you prolly couldn't have been made to see it. You have to see it for yourself. Glad you were able to escape. Wishing you strength in your healing.
@noeldelarosa_ph
@noeldelarosa_ph 4 күн бұрын
@@pilzmaedchen4294 yes I couldn't have been "made to see it." That means a lot. Heard before but the way that phrase goes resonated. Thank u for taking the time to say it. Funny though just when I thought I was healing there's more down there... Longer deeper than I thought it would be.
@pilzmaedchen4294
@pilzmaedchen4294 4 күн бұрын
@noeldelarosa_ph I understand. Even though you are a total stranger to me, I want you to know I am proud of your bravery and strength to walk away from the abuse. I am currently sitting silently on the sidelines watching this exact scenario. Silent only because I know it won't be heard. Your comment gives me hope. Keep healing and stay strong. 💪
@jayroneru4244
@jayroneru4244 6 күн бұрын
Realized my ex was a covert narcissist and i was calling her out on her behavior so many times but she made me feel so guilty for questioning her i believed i was doing wrong and tried to make it up to her so many times she promised me a long term healthy relationship and her loyalty but she was lying and then i realized i was in a game she would publicly humiliate me on the phone at our job and she would start fights in my car i had a fog over me thinking this was normal now just some weeks after no contact i realized what she is and i feel humiliated at my job and how my friends and co workers see me she even recorded our fights and made it seem like i was driving erracticly i feel as she wants to expose me for being abusive i cant believe a person like this exists and i want no part of this type of toxicity ever again in my life i hope everyone runs from these fake nice people that abuse you in private and plays victim to get you in jail these people need help
@RRprime44
@RRprime44 2 күн бұрын
I know how that is, she starts it but it not about solving. If you react then it becomes about your behavior and not about the real issue. These people think that you should always remain calm but that’s hard to do sometimes when dumb shit is happening, anger is a natural reaction not in excess of course but for them it’s a birth right and for you, you always have to be a saint. Best to deal with them is to play that part don’t try to change them, just live your life. Remember this the less you care the more they will care. It’s a natural law don’t believe me try it out. I mean fulfill your responsibilities but just emotional don’t care
@LastEarBender
@LastEarBender 6 күн бұрын
These are all great tools for dealing with a covert narcissist, a psychopath or sociopath. I wish I was better prepared prior to having had dealings with those types
@church988hill
@church988hill 6 күн бұрын
Lise Leblanc saved me from a pit I dug myself. Listen up gents!
@Oxten43
@Oxten43 5 күн бұрын
Using AI is soo good. I used it to remove any potential triggers from my messages. They still try to confront me with those points but I can say:"Nope, objectively there is nothing there." Its also good to not over-explain yourself. * removed a lot of things to keep the message short and comprehensive * :D
@RobertM-dg6le
@RobertM-dg6le 6 күн бұрын
When I watch your videos I feel relieved to be out of such a "relationship". A reminder, on my way to fully forgetting and being healed.
@Freesner
@Freesner 4 күн бұрын
Lise, you saved my life! Now, i only listen to you just to keep myself reminded and upp to date for the future❤
@djpvma
@djpvma 21 сағат бұрын
Lise, what you're explaining is the hardest thing to remember, to respond cordially without raising your voice and having some kind of witty comeback in order to shut them down. I can't stand passive-aggressiveness and I shut it down any chance I get. But, I've really gotta start remembering to stand my ground in silence. It's really hard to not react when someone keeps trying to cut you deeper and deeper. Dealing with someone that FOREVER takes whatever you say personally is like walking on eggshells, and this person can be insatiably impossible and irresponsible over their own feelings, always dodging accountability, always giving blasphemous ultimatum bluffs, trying to constantly intimidate me when the conversation isn't going their way, and I usually feel like it's better to just confront that and shut it down every step of the way. But, I have to learn to implement the tactics you're saying. It's just so difficult sometimes when you're being prodded.
@rizin2213
@rizin2213 7 күн бұрын
AI has made things so much easier for me. I analyze it for all forms of manipulation and toxic communication with messages from my ex. It will always ask if it can help me with a response. It definetly takes the emotions to a lower level for me. Conversations end a lot sooner. I have also used it on conversations from the past to look at ways I communicated and how to improve myself
@LairdSquared
@LairdSquared 6 күн бұрын
I've done this too. I've typed out the stories from my relationship with my ex, and it even pointed out things as gaslighting, which I'd never thought about.
@narcHealingKK
@narcHealingKK 7 күн бұрын
They are max 3 years old mentally. So anything that works with a 3 years old, will also work with them. But the problem is it's always late when we get this. And sometimes even though we get it, we gaslight ourselves thatay be they got better. But in the end, they are just same. I got discared from her 2 months ago and it was out of the blue. Before that I managed to keep it going. We were supposed to get married soon. The day she discarded me, just after 1 week she got engaged and married. I managed to find out that this fool is total fool. He fell for her beauty.
@clintonnagy1662
@clintonnagy1662 6 күн бұрын
What??? Wow. That's really being evil on her part.
@narcHealingKK
@narcHealingKK 6 күн бұрын
@clintonnagy1662 Yeah, when I met her, she was all broken and suicidal. I thought since since she isn't that much in the age, she has a chance of getting better. I managed to make her better. But in the end, I got the lesson the hard way, they never get better, it's just all dust in the wind and castle of sand. Even the glass isn't that fragile as their brain is. After I got discarded, I tried to reach to her anyway possible, but she created a barrier of flying monkeys and everything, I couldn't. She threat'ned to k'll me. These all happened within 1 week. My mother got all surprised and shocked, she is a patient of heart problem. Simply, many things happened what can I say, my English isn',t good. Only 2 days ago, she called me, I thought, finally I'll get a closure, I'll get some answers. But guess what, she still tried to blame shift on me that it was ally fault. At the same time she said that something bad happened to her. Out of 42 mins, she alone talked mone that 35 mins, I guess. After that, there is only 1 friends of her, who is kinda authentic. She told me, "There is a chance that she is getting some lessons, she is getting what she lost."
@narcHealingKK
@narcHealingKK 6 күн бұрын
@clintonnagy1662 I don't know why but I replied a long story here, it got deleted or something. Anyway it was in short, When I met her, she was all broken, but when she got everything from me, she discarded me for higher ambitions.
@clintonnagy1662
@clintonnagy1662 6 күн бұрын
@narcHealing21 I'm sorry to hear that. Sometimes relationships make no sense....or why we fall in love with people who aren't good for us? My last relationship with her will always be the best & worst in my life. I'm 51 & NEVER find that fire & ice like that. My time is running out for a relationship of that intensity.
@narcHealingKK
@narcHealingKK 6 күн бұрын
@@clintonnagy1662 Sorry to hear that. Yeah, normal relationship break up su'ks, but relationship with a narc makes us empty, numb. Simply they take away everything that they don't have. They are empty, so they make us empty. I'm trying to heal.
@shannahesterly2395
@shannahesterly2395 7 күн бұрын
So difficult when it's a parent
@lopa-u9f
@lopa-u9f 6 күн бұрын
my mom is the covert narc and my dad is dismissive avoidant codependent and defends her behavior when I try to talk to him about it, whether how it affects me or affects him she and I have learned to conflict when he's not around, but, last I did have conflict with her she was so horrible I went into a rage of spewing truths about her behavior to her and letting her know what I think about it all and then went grey rock and she now avoids me and hasn't violated boundaries as before
@lopa-u9f
@lopa-u9f 6 күн бұрын
told her she's a selfish asshole who only pretends to care, a horrible mother who resents my existence, but pretends otherwise shut her right up
@millyardopeacecraft9778
@millyardopeacecraft9778 6 күн бұрын
Current generation of adult children are going no contact with there parents. I'm one of them
@breakthroughmoment1647
@breakthroughmoment1647 5 күн бұрын
@@lopa-u9f Describing to them their bad behavior never works. Glad you went gray rock.
@brian-d-berentsen
@brian-d-berentsen 7 күн бұрын
thank you so much for sharing your wisdom. I love your channel!
@nickenglezos687
@nickenglezos687 6 күн бұрын
Great info you hit the nail on the head they wont change.i could write you a book about a few...
@jacksimons-o8q
@jacksimons-o8q 6 күн бұрын
Cool video, My relationship of 5 years ended a month ago. The love of my life decided to leave me, I really love her so much I can’t stop thinking about her, I’ve tried my very best to get her back in my life, but to no avail, I’m frustrated, I don’t see my life with anyone else. I’ve done my best to get rid of the thoughts of her, but I can’t, I don’t know why I’m saying this here, I really miss her and just can’t stop thinking about her
@DorothyAngers
@DorothyAngers 6 күн бұрын
its difficult to let go of someone you love, i was in a similar situation, my relationship of 12 years ended, but i couldnt just let him go i did all i could to get him back, i had to seek the help of a spiritual counselor who helped me bring him back
@jacksimons-o8q
@jacksimons-o8q 6 күн бұрын
Amazing, how did you get a spiritual counselor, and how do i reach her?
@DorothyAngers
@DorothyAngers 5 күн бұрын
Her name is Suzanne ann walters, and she is a great spiritual counselor who can bring back your ex.
@jacksimons-o8q
@jacksimons-o8q 5 күн бұрын
Thank you for this valuable information, i just looked her up now online. impressive
@Ratnest1986
@Ratnest1986 5 күн бұрын
@@jacksimons-o8qdude you’re going back to toxicity willingly. How pathetic. Move on and find someone who actually loves you. Learn to love yourself and have some damn self respect. Do not reach out to whoever that nutcase is telling you to reach out to.
@nyptblueone7734
@nyptblueone7734 7 күн бұрын
THANK YOU!! After researching strategies, I even used Deepseek, I’ve implemented some of these very same ones and found that they work. Actually understanding what I’m up against has helped me tremendously. For the most part when encountering an argument brewing I remind myself to stay calm & grounded. Be the adult in the room. One area in which I need to work on is being quiet and stop rendering solutions to her problems or situations. No matter how well meaning or correct it usually turns out bad for me. In stopping or reducing this I will not only be able to de-escalate a situation but avoid it altogether. Again THANK YOU!
@Matt-q2i
@Matt-q2i 6 күн бұрын
Thank you Lise Leblanc.
@davidlemor
@davidlemor 5 күн бұрын
Thank you Mrs Leblanc for another calm, clear, informative, informed and relevant video.
@MonsieurMajestic
@MonsieurMajestic 7 күн бұрын
Thanks for Video 👍🏻
@stevegrifftx
@stevegrifftx 7 күн бұрын
Gray rock, Brown rock, granite rock - all could work if applied properly.
@JohnSmith-wo7ns
@JohnSmith-wo7ns 3 күн бұрын
Lost count of the amount of times I wondered why she was creating an argument out of nothing. Wish I'd smiled and walked away instead of trying to stand up for myself. Walk away.
@Costa998
@Costa998 7 күн бұрын
Thanks for your advices
@kylehettinger1201
@kylehettinger1201 6 күн бұрын
I wish this video had been available when I was still in the relationship with her. But it’s day 38 of no contact, and that’s even better. 🎉
@LairdSquared
@LairdSquared 6 күн бұрын
Same, wish I'd known about all of this before... I'm on day 36! Good luck dude
@nicholecornes1915
@nicholecornes1915 6 күн бұрын
They are brutal but i look at him like an outsider. I dont take it personally i STAY away!!! Far away
@CoachHadassah
@CoachHadassah 5 күн бұрын
I love the idea of using the AI tool for responding. I will definitely use this advice.
@taazzmaann
@taazzmaann 6 күн бұрын
Ive been needing this one
@taazzmaann
@taazzmaann 4 күн бұрын
Please do one like this regarding stratiges for "best response to hoover attempts"...🙏🏽 for those currently breaking away...the hoover and pure guilt they make you feel is so hard to break especially when they start being nice or pretending
@CJ_Pharaoh
@CJ_Pharaoh 6 күн бұрын
Thank you, Lise 🙏
@heyoldman2003
@heyoldman2003 7 күн бұрын
help from AI !!! oh my !!! i’m 71 years old and never thought it would come to this ! using your phone to help you figure out what to say 😲. be careful with that one kids 👦🏻
@nyptblueone7734
@nyptblueone7734 6 күн бұрын
Brother, I’m 72 and have met yet another of life’s challenges in dealing with this covert narcissist situation. Use whatever tool you need that will help you survive & prevail.
@heyoldman2003
@heyoldman2003 6 күн бұрын
@ your right … but that artificial intelligence kind of scares me
@daboerne
@daboerne Күн бұрын
The funny thing is they try to test and manipulate you from the beginning. If you just keep calm, don't react like they want you to react and tell them that you prefer direct communication instead of playing games, they become angry and will leave you alone pretty early. They are very frustrated if you don't want to play their games and they will hate you for it. But it doesn't make a difference. Eventually they will hate you anyways, no matter how you behave but this way you can recognize them very early before building a relationship.
@clintonnagy1662
@clintonnagy1662 6 күн бұрын
Uhg....Im guilty of long-ass messages explaining my point of view. Im guilty of raging out when she triggers me...Ive tried different methods but I couldnt hold to my own rules after the gas lighting, blame shifting, and guilt trips.
@MaestroMaxim
@MaestroMaxim 6 күн бұрын
I need to fuel the fire because I have an addiction to my trauma bond and that’s my validation. Without this I have no identity.🤣
@86rattlehead
@86rattlehead 6 күн бұрын
So, you’re the reason Lise has to keep doing these videos forever… 😅
@carolentringer8836
@carolentringer8836 4 күн бұрын
1. Under-react. Stay neutral. 2. React in unexpected ways. 3. “That’s interesting.” 4. Look them straight in the eye with calm confidence. 5. Withdraw your attention. 6. Don’t over explain or defend yourself. 7. Use silence as a tool. 8. Use AI for written communication to draft a neutral response. 9. Set and enforce boundaries. “I’m not going to have this conversation with you yelling at me.” 10. Don’t try to attempt to change, fix,or help the narcissist.
@BClevs
@BClevs 4 күн бұрын
You'll be accused of being the narcissist. So cold and uncaring. So avoidant an emotionally immature. I’ve been attacked so hard for trying any of these responses to her behaviors. There's a reason people like this prefer to interact in person. Reduced ablility to use emotion to their advantage if it's just texting. Honestly, I have to say, if it isn't family, just ghost them. It isn't "nice," but they'll never let you off the hook unless you cut every single tie you have. No spotify playlist, no shared access to whatever streaming service, no social media, no texting, no calling, no running into them through mutual friends. Nothing. Unless you really want to spend tens of years of your life wasted in futility. Things are hard enough. Just don't.
@dopeymark
@dopeymark 6 күн бұрын
Yes, yes, and yes! All true.
@darinsmith2458
@darinsmith2458 6 күн бұрын
To me awareness is everything and we might not do it perfectly but we will do it better than before we had the awareness..
@AndreFlavell
@AndreFlavell 6 күн бұрын
Liz when I held her accountable for disgusting behaviour on messages she dosnt block me . Why ? I caught not only lying but cheating etc . Why does she hold on even though I blocked her . I have asked her to explain but never does
@bigt4331
@bigt4331 2 күн бұрын
My covert narcissist wife got mad because she said I didn't invite her to the daddy daughter dance i took our daughter to. Thats our typical life. She gets triggered. And I react. I constantly on edge and my central nervous system is completely in a state of panic.
@1976smb
@1976smb 5 күн бұрын
Verbal judo works well too.
@JKDVIPER
@JKDVIPER 6 күн бұрын
20 hours ago! ☺️my guess, stand strong, stay calm, don't feed into it, and own your actions/attitudes/habits/outlook."
@MarleyLeMar
@MarleyLeMar Күн бұрын
I'd like to know how kids can reach out for help. I bravely tried to explain to teachers twice, and then gave up when things got worse for me at home. It cost me years of therapy, when I think the adults should have been going.
@Steven-s2z
@Steven-s2z 6 күн бұрын
I wish I knew then what I know, i could have saved myself from a lot of the mental abuse I endured now but I'm glad got out after 4 years what's the name of the AI app.?
@racerx2348
@racerx2348 6 күн бұрын
:No contact is best for a man , narc rage is the worst! and a man cannot defend , or even deflect a strike or he will go to jail. so your stuck with a toddler acting out with NO consequence
@mst8521
@mst8521 6 күн бұрын
I felt that way as a woman… I cant win
@racerx2348
@racerx2348 6 күн бұрын
@@mst8521 most of the time they are very attractive people, which made it hard for me to break away. but now im free and have my integrity, and pride , whenever i feel like reaching out, or responding when she hovers i have dozens of mean hurtful text mssgs i can read and remind me not to
@thomasandersen2534
@thomasandersen2534 4 күн бұрын
Thank you She crazy
@JayBosh
@JayBosh 6 күн бұрын
was on the verge of leaving my CN but they promised they see how its been and that they would work on being better. They are doing and saying all the "right" things. Is it possible for them to fake remorse and taking responsibility to lure me back in? This stuff is confusing
@monicahocking1507
@monicahocking1507 6 күн бұрын
Yes it's possible.
@ruckerbrady8342
@ruckerbrady8342 6 күн бұрын
Yes this is a very common thing for narcs to fake empathy and promise to change until your sucked back in with hope and love then repeat the cycle. Very very common.
@JayBosh
@JayBosh 5 күн бұрын
@@ruckerbrady8342 well just last night I was told that they had been doing a lot of thinking and it turns out, I was actually the problem...
@dargan1956
@dargan1956 9 күн бұрын
Grey-rocking works best for me. Shaking my head only signals to her that I’m not really listening and I’ve already made up my mind or thinking about how I’m going to respond. If it’s something that escalates then I try to mentally step back and think of her as an 8 year old version of the woman I know. I have to be the adult in the conversation and remain calm. If there is gaslighting going on, I’ll come out point blank and say -Stop gaslighting me. I’ll explain how she is gaslighting. She usually doesn’t have a response. She’s still mad. But it’s not my fault.
@LiseLeblanc
@LiseLeblanc 9 күн бұрын
@@dargan1956 this is a great strategy, wish I’d thought to mention it (think of her as an 8 year old and remind yourself to be the adult).
@nyptblueone7734
@nyptblueone7734 7 күн бұрын
@@LiseLeblancI take on (at least internally to avoid escalation ) the mindset of being the adult in the room, not in a confrontational or condescending manner but calm. Not only keeps the peace but my sanity.
@lopa-u9f
@lopa-u9f 6 күн бұрын
hmmm, have tried all sorts of things last was go into a raging fury of spewing truth about their suckery then went silent treatment/grey rock (which I'd done before but was ineffective) now that she knows what I think about her, she's kind of shut up and avoids the conflicts she used to push it's my mom
@clintonnagy1662
@clintonnagy1662 6 күн бұрын
"The raging Fury on spewing truth about their suckery." That quote is GOLDEN. Love it ❤
@MA-xi9bh
@MA-xi9bh 7 күн бұрын
Skinnymoose here’s another to watch
@nicholecornes1915
@nicholecornes1915 6 күн бұрын
Leave them alone ! They are not good for anything
@benjaminmoser5669
@benjaminmoser5669 6 күн бұрын
Man I don’t even know anymore. I wish I could talk to someone that actually knows about this subject matter. I’m so confused and lost
@AS004-xf4jc
@AS004-xf4jc 5 күн бұрын
Confused and lost : one kind of symptoms of narcissistic abuse.
@pilzmaedchen4294
@pilzmaedchen4294 4 күн бұрын
There is a lot of free information to help you figure it out. Lisa is one of my favorites. There are manybothers: Dr. Ramani, Dr. Les Carter, the little shaman, ...so many more. Stay strong and good luck!!
@em65
@em65 6 күн бұрын
Is this narcissistic personality a conscious or subconscious behavior?
@olzzon
@olzzon 6 күн бұрын
They are fully aware of their behaviour and decisions.
@jesseskellington9427
@jesseskellington9427 5 күн бұрын
Seattle Washington anybody know of a therapist can treat people who are recipients of narcissistic abuse?
@surfreadjumpsleep
@surfreadjumpsleep 6 күн бұрын
When you're talking about a covert narcissist what you really talking about is someone with BPD right? Because there's way more people with BPD than covert narcissism, right?
@a.figueiraroxa9859
@a.figueiraroxa9859 7 күн бұрын
Waaaaaaaaaaw with Ai
@mdc-ps6pl
@mdc-ps6pl 5 күн бұрын
Respond but do not react.
@derMitDemEselTanzt
@derMitDemEselTanzt 6 күн бұрын
Why respond at all? Block
@nicholecornes1915
@nicholecornes1915 6 күн бұрын
I just dont get it
@sergiofilho7845
@sergiofilho7845 3 күн бұрын
Very sad these people can't be treated, bcz they are like a gun firing on every direction. They still empty and hurting people.
@issazeele1707
@issazeele1707 Күн бұрын
11:16
@MariaCamanho
@MariaCamanho 6 күн бұрын
thanks im tires sick the noise liers sabotage holidays Portugal hotel shame tired thanks
@FreedomSpirit76
@FreedomSpirit76 6 күн бұрын
Scammer
@LisaSmith-yb2uz
@LisaSmith-yb2uz 6 күн бұрын
This advice doesn’t necessarily apply or benefit someone who has been deemed as the scapegoat within multiple generations of covertly narcissistic family of origin dynamics 💔🧘‍♀️❤️‍🩹❤️‍🔥💛 it’s a whole different subcategory of trauma recovery processes 😑😌👌💓
@stephaniegarfield29142
@stephaniegarfield29142 6 күн бұрын
*puzzled look* "Interesting."
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