📢 Best & Worst Car Mods Ever | MASS DEBATE

[@haltech]

Who should we invite for our next debate and what topic should they discuss? Let us know in the comments section! When we decided to do a debate video on the subject of car mods we figured we need a couple of guests that are both influential and knowledgeable about the subject. We think Benny from BCW and Marty from MCM were exactly that, and then some! Put them together with Scotty and we've got ourselves a formidable panel of experts in the field of modified car culture. Enjoy:)

[@ContentinMesa]

You need to get John Huffman from road n track

[@ReedyCreek28]

Get Hawkins in and one of his Nissan expert homies!

[@shaggyjman]

Get Nik Blackhurst and Richard Brunning plz

[@youwhatnow3159]

Benny with the Autotechnia reference. Fukn lol.

[@josephacker5716]

What is the worst or hardest repair/build vs the best/easiest you all have encountered?

[@mightycarmods]

Captain DeCat will kick you in the balls if the cat goes in the bin

[@markcalvert7601]

In the bin!

[@brockmacckie9905]

Lucky u don't live nere me every second commo got no cat lol i personally go high flow unless it car before cats where factory thing

[@HotForgeChaos]

The 3 cats in my old V6 Mondeo went straight IN THE BIN!

[@Heyyo_Friday]

How much do we have to pay for you 3 to go down the rabbit role for hours? Enjoyed this 35 minutes. Went by wayyyy to quick

[@haltech]

Amazing how quickly time flies when you're enjoying yourself!

[@Heyyo_Friday]

@@haltech absolutely. Cheers lads. Thank you the content and knowledge you post

[@gardnertreneman3008]

@@haltech No, for real, this content is gold. It doesn't have to be super frequent, but three or four times a year would be amazing.

[@hamishgeppert]

@@gardnertreneman3008 Amen- I'd love to see more of this 👌

[@LexarseV8]

Some more comfortable chairs

[@DashCamOwnersAustralia]

I once put a VN Group A bonnet bulge on a VP Calais V6 when I was a P plater. Sorry.

[@haltech]

Hope you've learnt your lesson young man!

[@haltech]

Also - is there a video of the said offence? We'd love to see it....

[@DashCamOwnersAustralia]

@@haltech imgur.com/a/CifnQYP That rattle can spray job though.

[@haltech]

Looks legit!

[@FuManchu5ltr]

I feel privileged to spot a comment from @DashCamOwnersAustralia out in the wild.

[@cyanomical]

I love how this basically became a couple of mates reminiscing about their old cars and mistakes we made modding our cars when we were young

[@TrashHeapCustodian]

Seeing Benny and Marty on the screen at the same time makes me so happy for some reason :)

[@haltech]

You're not the only one. That was a very happy and enjoyable shoot:)

[@TimHoppen]

It's been too long

[@brandonpayne1207]

Seeing them all together, I just knew it was going to a good episode no matter what it was about.

[@nicolejhondelacruz9339]

Yeah. I feel happy seeing all of them. But it feels weird when they're not holding tools/computers. Maybe it's just me. Hahaha

[@youriton8589]

These lads should do a podcast. Great banter between them and they know their stuff. Also, a lot of experience. I'd listen to that for hours

[@GBFZeta]

Was hoping Moog would pop in and ask Benny if any of these mods would fit his Honda.

[@bluej511]

Comedy gold.

[@brendanorellana6134]

Probably busy writing "Pssh Pssh" during this😂

[@ElkinsEric]

Hondar

[@samsonian]

Actually, it was nice to see Marty not getting steamrolled by Moog’s ADD need to dominate the camera. He, Benny and Scott riff really well off each other without devolving into nothing but double-entendre silliness. There’s a place for that and it’s cool but sometimes I feel bad for Marty always having to play straight-man instead of just getting his point across with no gag.

[@5UPRAH]

This needs to happen a lot more frequently. Really enjoyable.

[@weneakhborzable]

I agree.

[@JHamilton791]

That was terrific! Brought me back to my days of cruising in my 87 Cutlass with two kicker 12s and the headliner majestically flapping in the wind

[@haltech]

LOL the flapping headliner would have complimented the tasty bass coming out of those 12" subs nicely:)

[@AJ-oj5eu]

Do MORE of these please. This is Gold!

[@colster3]

Such a cool discussion, but it did make me feel old. Best mod in my day was multiple carbs, usually twin SU’s or if you had lots of dollars, twin 45DCOE’s. The worst mod was a “cable cam”. Pull the choke cable out until the engine ran rough like it had a big cam… Love your work guys!

[@MotoringBoxTV]

That was very satisfying. Unlike ghost cams, HID converted reflector headlights, and people who cut the legs off their rear spoilers.

[@crfrider450]

Ahhh i forgot about ghost cams, i try to forget they're a thing

[@nigelseaton452]

37 minutes? No way I’ll watch all this. 37 minutes later; wow that was fun. So great to listen to you 3 hang out and chat! Thanks guys!

[@El_Chompo]

You guys are going to have to make a part 2! Such good chemistry between yall and based on the fact you had to cut the video short you could have kept going. I wouldn't even mind if you kept on for an hour or two its very enjoyable to watch you guys reminisce and talk about modding. Don't get different guests and topics yet there is still so much left in this one :)

[@ECMUnltd]

That car has to happen!!! It MUST happen! The internet has spoken!!! Epic video lads!! Much laughter and memories were had!!

[@RacecarWRX]

The moment it all goes out the window and the three of you just start reminiscing all the cars you worked on and the dumb shit you did, that's when the video got awesome. I'm from the states but that moment is something all car guys/gals can relate to no matter what cars you've own or what part of the world you live in. 🍻

[@mrmr9737]

My first top mod is getting tyres that I trust to keep me safe and turn and stop reliabily when I ask them to. Personally I like my michilin pilot sport over my bridgestones, yea they need replacing more often (no, I will not learn to be mechanically sympathetic and go easy on my machine) but I trust them to get my back.

[@Gooie69]

I can't help but laugh when i see people running brands like Herovic and goodrun and complaining that the can't put tje power down. Gotta have good rubber first.

[@tojiroh]

Same. Hear, hear!

[@2rismo]

Guilty of the single wiper swap, chroming random stuff like the fuel filler flap, aftermarket pedals for no reason, water-sucking CAIs and punching out cats. Also guilty of the small nitrous shot but thankfully smart enough to leave it on the whole time. The cool VL thing to do for a while was the chrome cup Autometer gauges on the bonnet but because extra plumbing was expensive you'd just buy 3 or 4 volt meters and run two wires. Feeling very seen in this video.

[@haltech]

single wiper squad represent!

[@button-puncher]

Great discussion. Even hearing all your weird Aussie cars. :) I did roll my eyes at the decat... There are SO many poorly maintained cars on the road with garbage plugs, dirty MAF, and O2 sensors with the CEL on running pig rich pouring HC's out the tail pipe. If one in 1,000 people (hot rodders) decat, it doesn't mean anything in the grand scheme of things.

[@crisnmaryfam7344]

12:00 one of the most overlooked parts of many peoples "builds" They just toss them on set and forget it. Most people dont ever consider that they could tune the dampers and spring rates together for better performance or better comfort and drivability.

[@vigilante351]

That was a great episode. Worst mod (or not) on cars that have wiper washers on the bonnet that can be turned around, when you stop at lights, squirt your washers at the car next to you at the lights. The other - move your washer bottle to the rear of car, and run clear hose from it to the inner wheel arches of your car, and let it drop diesel ontop the top of your tyres for smokey burnouts!

[@aSinisterKiid]

My favorite mod from a mechanical side of things would have to be a turbo. Even a silly little ebay turbo can make damn near any engine more fun. It puts a smile on your face when the boost hits. And then there's also a special place in my heart for car audio. So in that sense doing a mod to your audio is life changing. Putting in a full audio system from speakers, head unit, amp, and a good sub. Having your tunes at a crisp and perfect sound quality with the bass hitting in your chest just brings things to a different level. It something everyone can enjoy and it makes you want to spend more time in your car. Truly a great mod for any car enthusiast.

[@haltech]

page up and volume up. we approve 👍

[@BIGPOG]

So mad all you guys jell so well its so good to see ya having a mad chat.

[@bvward]

Scott, nice reflective video. In my part of the 'States, we'd put a toggle switch on the reverse lights, as people assumed you did an engine swap and wired something up wrong. Was also a way to indicate to someone you wanted a roll race (on the street). Another faux pas was putting Cragar mags/big tires on a stock car...

[@the_real_superstickman]

I remember a mate had collected up a pile of old factory speakers we'd replaced from about 5 different cars over the course of about a year or so. He ended up with 13 speakers in his Bluebird wagon, including mounting three in a box as a "subwoofer". It was so bad it was good

[@ronnie5375]

Great chat! Got me reminiscing about my old TX3 now.

[@CRFLAus]

I had a Haltech computer in my RX4 13B turbo back in the day. I think about 1997. Chopping everything in sight, blowing huge flames, ahhhhh the memories!

[@AaronSkone]

30:33 I lost it when Benny said "At least blind people could see your paint job"

[@krispykruzer]

This is really cool, its like living the new era of automotive awesomeness and looks like James Taal's infectious love of nitrous has hit Tuning Fork!!

[@AtrociousNightmare]

Thank you MCM for letting me know about this; it was great fun to listen to you legends

[@mattdriftkerr7603]

The stereo fire part brought back a wonderful 90's memory... of a friends car stereo install which had a switch that did nothing but start a small fire in the dashboard

[@lukhowzlee1632]

I think that experience is a right of passage haha

[@dan_2846]

The dream team! No real need to bring any other guests, make a series with just you three, its the perfect blend

[@truetierra]

Oh god, this is a trip down memory lane. 15inch subs dual port home made enclosures in competitive sound offs, G zero rims, massive af earthing kits, much fun. 👍 Great vid gents.

[@haltech]

15 inchers - that's massive!

[@nasssousa]

Legend!!! This is the best content in KZbin in the last month+. Thanks for this

[@Thebicycleplayground]

Not only do you have to part 2 this, but the following episodes need to be longer. This is the rad

[@AtreidaeChibiko]

"I'm not responsible for this car fire..." Ah I have some stories about a certain car parts retailer and their stereo wall fire.... Totally didn't fit that stereo (it wasn't the wiring at fault. It was the stereo that went up)

[@darrylvanrooy]

I knew of a bloke that would fit head units with the Reebok spanner. Meaning he would wire them up and slide them as far as he could. Then plant his size 9 Reeboks on the front and push until it was flush. Not sure if that technique caused any fires, but you would have to wonder.

[@emlix1]

I was talking to my son yesterday (he's 9 and wants to be a mechanic) about the next mod for our Evo X: I just had the engine rebuilt and I was tossing up between E85 and some lower offset rims, but I live in rural Victoria and wider rims would kick up more gravel and sandblast the rear doors. So E85 it is. Cheers boys, entertaining and educational discussion, that helped me to make a decision.

[@Low760]

Why did an evo X need an engine rebuild!?

[@emlix1]

@@Low760 it had 290,000km on it, and whilst it has quite specific dash warnings for almost everything, bizarrely it didn't have one for the timing chain, which jumped a cog and was misdiagnosed by my mechanic who then grenaded the engine whilst trying to fix a "stuck valve timing solenoid" that was actually a worn timing chain. I was actually pretty amazed that it made it to almost 300k at all, since the service handbook only goes up to 210k. It's now got all forged internals, ARP head studs, new ported head, manifold, turbo, intercooler etc, and recently got a new front valance, bonnet and a respray courtesy of an insurance company after some tool reversed into me, although I'm $15k poorer for the engine rebuild. It's going to be a lifetime project car and bottomless money pit, but it's worth it for those rare moments when you get the chance to open the taps- then it feels like the $50-odd thousand bucks I've spent tuning it was worth it!

[@twisted2291]

Great convo. Make me feel old as hell, but it brought back a flood of great memories.

[@JordyValentine]

Suspension is a must, something I do to all my cars. Working as a mechanic I've seen countless cars transformed just by getting factory replacement struts, you'd be surprised how short their lifespan can be.

[@askethom04]

More down the rabbit hole chats! Brilliant!

[@graemeandrews7344]

That was hilarious so entertaining guys!! Best part Benny " I wasn't responsible for this particular car fire"

[@willbarger2233]

Best was a Bosch Electronic points conversion on a late 70's 6 cyl Valiant and alternator fitted to a HB Torana. Worst was in line screen washer water heater to speed up defrosting of the windscreen.

[@zp9898]

Off topic....but releasing this mass debate series as a pod....would be amazing

[@chadlegault9993]

3 most favourite guys ever. Great idea, great video. Thank you.

[@Mooza1]

So happy to see Benny! Glad you are involving the iNn Da BiNn guy too

[@ilj5000]

Great video! Loved it, the three of you together make a really great and natural connection on camera! Thank you for this

[@mattangrave8478]

Thanks Marty for the de cat drop I really get behind that mate. Thanks all round tbh was a funny vid to watch

[@martyburgess341]

I like these type of videos! It's like mates swapping stories. More please!

[@danielponsonby9612]

Omg take me down memory lane awesome discussion guys loved it relived a whole life time

[@lukemucky]

Best mods i ever did was free flow exhaust especially the manifold, and a good cold air feed to a cone air filter. I’m talking late 80’s early 90’s car. Simple and easy to fix!

[@juddy953]

honestly we need a weekly video like this. the stories about car mods an the car scene of the early 2000s would be awesome

[@weneakhborzable]

Awesome, man. Smiling all the way through the video. Although being from another country, I might not be very familiar with some of the mods at the time.but the beauty of car world that a guy in the middle east strongly relates to what some dudes are talking about down under.

[@hotwire96]

27:48 hey look, it's my Gen 2 Legacy. Previous owner was on that RSLC cruise to Tassie.

[@haltech]

There's your moment of interwebs fame!

[@Robert_Hall90]

I know all 3 of you guys are mega busy but if you guys got together Once a month it something to do a podcast it would be MEGA!! very easy listening it’s almost like listening to your mates talk! More of this please

[@lucians.6756]

And subscribed, very good job Scotty ! We appreciate your contribution :D

[@Thegoreofitall]

That's the most 2000's thing I've ever heard.... "I won the 2 fast 2 furious soundtrack CD off the radio"

[@jamesbaylis9438]

Whilst watching this, I had brief memories of the dumb stuff that my mates and I did to our Cars. But its gonna be hard to top this chat, for whom you want to have on next. Loved the content and keep it coming 👍

[@markreyes4627]

Great episode boys!

[@hamo4558]

Loved it, you need these chats more often - really enjoyed it

[@802Garage]

This was great. Love the synchronized thumbs up at the end. Worst mod for me is definitely all the broke boys who put a terrible low quality subwoofer in the trunk with a trash underpowered amp and they jack the signal from the rear speaker wires then turn it up to distort and clip like mad just to say "It bumps, right?" Worst mod I have personally done is probably a double DIN touch screen head unit. I actually love it overall and it's nice, but this one has no physical volume knob just a capacitive button and it drives me insane. I ordered a wireless steering wheel control knob.

[@michaelmcculloch5065]

That was possibly one of the best vids I've watched this in a long time.

[@hamishgeppert]

I suddenly feel really good about all the mods I've done or been involved in after watching this 🤣 Nah but seriously guys this was awesome to watch- I loved the Monster Tacho and external gauges reference, haven't seen either for ages!

[@TomBellQLD]

Awesome video guys!

[@brucepulver8358]

Cordia, 16 speakers, roof mount DVD, LS swap, Flex fuel and Motec ECU!?!?!?!?! Colour coded dash! 🧡 Hotwire, Chevy drop pipes, CB, Twin popup removable sunroofs! 👍

[@peturstefansson]

I enjoyed watching this episode. Glad you pointed out that the technology in today's aftermarket ECUs has moved so much forward to make engines run better, especially older one's, cleaner and more controllable. Interesting to hear that decat the exhaust system doesn't give that much more horsepower. I think the best choice is then to switch to Sports Cats; They're a lot less restrictive than a standard cat, and they improve performance and are legal.

[@andrewclarke86]

32/36 webber carburettor on a Holden gemini back in my late teens early 20s with a big exhaust. without any knowledge of the fact that this carb came of a bloody 6 cylinder falcon and was jetted as such. drove around for years using loads more fuel than i needed to and most definitely mad less power due to how rich it was running. It was only later when i got into motorbikes that i realized if you change the flow characteristics of your engine. it needs a tune or the carby needs a rejet.

[@The888Redlich]

Great show, well done boys. Fyi, I bought a new 1984 Cordia Turbo in 1984, it was great fun and fast in it’s day. I drove one a couple years ago too. Just don’t go there, it’s not good in 2021😖

[@Phrew]

I do absolutely agree with Benny there, crackle tunes are the most annoying and obnoxious thing to do to a car. And the worst thing about them is that many manufacturers do it themseslves. Most mid to high-power VAG cars crackle like mad, especially those with DSGs in them. AMGs will also crackle on every single shift. And of course it's engineered to perfection, which means that they sound exactly the same each and every time. Back in the old days, most engines crackled and popped because they had to run rich as hell to keep those cylinder walls cooled. Now? Now it crakles, because the computer was told to make it crackle. Additionally, I personally don't have an issue with it when it's somewhere on a highway or autobahn. I get it, car was going fast, engine at high revs, crackling and popping is acceptable. But people just sitting there at a meet or even worse in a residential area, playing with their gas pedal just to make it crackle? Annoying as hell.

[@i976scirocco3]

That was awesome ! More of these please.

[@damogoodfella742]

Really nice content fellas you should do more videos with the 3 of you...

[@L1NKU5]

I kid you not this was REALLY enjoyable episode, i could easily watch / listen tou you guys go down memory lane for an hour more!

[@OliverPickard]

I really enjoyed that thanks lads

[@LukeWalters]

this a really good video lads! well done takes me down memory lane a bit

[@Judge_Edo]

This video was perfect, you 3 should do this as its own series or at least something reoccurring.

[@tocsa120ls]

32:11 Scotty look on Thai forums, the D-Maxes I saw over there were just NUTS. Those 3-liter diesel engines are soooo tuneable...

[@gav240z]

18:10 - I agree Marty, I hate the decat method. Exhaust stinks, it's bad for the Environment and a high flow cat will often work just as well, but it's more expensive.

[@jakerubino3233]

My suburb is plagued by crackle and pop tools in euro hatches everywhere. It was cool in my SII RX-7 with a 13B Bridgeport back in the early 2000’s - mainly flame pops or bangs. Also at the track it sounds cool

[@Justme-jt1ef]

This was awesome I love the stories the three of y’all tell.

[@alexfloresjr.429]

BCW and MCM... Damn so good... Do some car build again with AL Turbo Yoda.... And always with Scotty the tuning fork

[@TURBOTRISTO]

Just subscribe to all their channels anyway

[@daniel.s8126]

You realise that Australia is a big country, right? Al’s not in Sydney like these guys are.

[@Miketz]

The whole Al and Cheryl incident means that won't happen for some time yet.

[@Brendan.Wheatley]

Memories of our youth! Thanks for a great video gentlemen!

[@aksfactory]

That was a fun episode, you should do more episodes similar to this discussing different mods with different guests 👍

[@chrisw3771]

I must have covered nearly every good/bad mod (never cut holes in the bonnet yet..) decat on my MX5, but that's common sense in the UK as they are stolen so often. Bikes with crackly tunes, (can't really avoid on a Harley with race cams) Over 20 years of nitrous on anything I could fit a fogger (Kawasaki ZRX was by far the most stupid & funny) even an 1100cc Fiat! I'm far to grown up now at 53, then again there's half a dozen superchargers & 10lb of nitrous in the conservatory...

[@andrewkerr1976]

this was a awesome video need to do more like it really made me think of the shit i did when i was younger and now look back and think wtf was i thinking

[@krispykruzer]

My all time favourite mod (which kinda not a mod) was the unequal length headers on the 2000 era WRX. The most awesome rumble bar a lumpy cam v8 ever!!!

[@haltech]

Back when WRXs actually sounded like WRXs....

[@brockmacckie9905]

Awesome video really enjoyed it my current project atm gets alot of hate because it few different coulors i did try finding my coulor but when with whatever coulor i could get in general parts in decent condition but car needs paint job so Throgth migth get it all painted when i can all same time

[@outcast_performance]

You all must mass debate together again. That was great.

[@Sam-sx5mo]

You three, hit the nail on the head. Great video. 😂👌

[@-_-Raziel]

loved the whole video! :D Please do more.. bring moog and more people.... Turbo Yoda!

[@putnamehereholdmadoodle]

I once put a WRX 99 front bar on a st141 85 model corona wagon. And the hood scoop on the bonnet

[@tkhayes83]

How good was this, thanks guys super fun and entertaining. For me, the best mods would have to be in this order tires, brakes, suspension, exhaust. The worst mod I would have to agree with Marty, doing a de-cat and terribly loud mufflers with hack job suspension and oversized wheels.

[@Preecy1811]

1000000000% need some longer ones of these with these 3 👌👌👌

[@flailios]

The old de-cat, remove air-box crap is based on an assumption that 'they know something the factory doesn't', OR, it fails to understand that removing restrictions is only the course of action when a restriction is found. It's the old combustion triangle balancing act.

[@andersjjensen]

Yes... "Bro Science" at it's best. Ultimately it's the line of thinking that leads to flat earthers and anti vaxxers :-/

[@johngriffin9547]

One of the best: The F9A Haltech I put on my 13BT in my S3 RX-7. It always started first go, drove like a factory car, decent fuel economy, didn't stink etc etc. Custom flash tuning my 135i with DP's, intercooler and exhaust. Every Mod i did to the car after that falls into the "regret" category.

[@haltech]

Glad to hear you got the tuning part right:)

[@johngriffin9547]

@@haltech Mike at Rotorsport back in the day got it sorted. From memory he even had custom eproms Haltech provided him which just goes to show you've always been legends.

[@TURBOTRISTO]

I love a good mass debate, can’t wait to watch this tonite

[@TURBOTRISTO]

FYI it was great just like the chats I have with my mates

[@kazern95]

exhaust pops on a button is the way to go honestly I love being able to have them on when im out having fun on the highway with the boys but street driving having it turned off by a button is great

[@nrvsauto8990]

I agree with the cat deletes, first off, those things are not cheap to replace second cats flow so well and it is not a restriction on a stock vehicle.

[@nos4me]

Worse than flow, it restricts the sound

[@sathos]

Loved it guys, more of this stuff!

[@Hezath]

Man this is brilliant stuff. Thank you guys!!

[@t.j.furness]

I'm 31 and I gotta comment on The Fast & The Furious part right now. Actually I was driving today all over the valley (Phoenix area) bumpin various songs from the fast that I just downloaded in the past day on my Fosgate system and it was amazing. Relivin' the nostalgia was super sick. 'Bout to watch the original for the 1000th time.✌

[@haltech]

Damn... you just convinced us to do the same!!!! Tonight's watching list sorted.

[@t.j.furness]

HhAAHHAAHHAH! that's great, feel them vibes!

[@haltech]

Ever seen our re-dub? facebook.com/HaltechEngineManagement/videos/838837382907361/

[@t.j.furness]

Hahhahah! That's good stuff y'all lol!