Best Z790 Motherboard & Best Z690 Motherboard for 13th Gen Intel Raptor Lake | Z690 vs Z790

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@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 2 жыл бұрын
*Corrections: 1) I refer to Z790 having a better memory "controller" but that term is incorrect. Z790 improvements are to trace/topology/shielding. 2) The ASRock Riptide Z690M has 2 M.2 slots, not 1. 3) Removed ITX recommendation due to an issue with that board, alternate linked in description.* What Motherboard features do you look for in a board? Tell your story in a new comment!
@madarasoun3018
@madarasoun3018 2 жыл бұрын
Still, i'm one of those guys who never used more than 1 M.2 drive :D
@JKchanel-rx4pf
@JKchanel-rx4pf 2 жыл бұрын
What's the best z790 board not the cheapest or price to performance just want to know which one is the best for the 13900 k don't matter the price
@zhenjiexu4295
@zhenjiexu4295 2 жыл бұрын
is the gigabytes z690 master better than asus rog strix-e? I mean the gigabyte are cheaper now
@piotr1103
@piotr1103 2 жыл бұрын
You put MSI z690 pro in ddr4 budget list but You've only discussed ddr5 version in the video. Is it the same deal or is something different about it? Also is there a much difference between MSI z690 pro ddr4 and Gigabyte Gaming X Z690 DDR4 if they were the same price?
@mattmatt2417
@mattmatt2417 2 жыл бұрын
This is coming from someone who has been on this platform for a WHILE at this point,I had an i9-12900ks and now an i9-13900k and Raptor lake is still on the 1700 socket/the Z790 uses the 1700 socket as well,this is just something that needs to be thought about/talked about. The real issue is,I think AMD is falling behind, YES they have 3D CPUs and MUCH better optimization,but their JUST getting DDR5 RAM and their JUST catching up at the end of a generation/the Meteor Lake platform/1851 socket,MAY come out SOON/the i9-14900ks, will most likely be released on the meteor lake platform/1851 socket. I think this is something people NEED to be thinking about, IF your planning on investing in Raptor Lake/Z790 boards/the meteor lake platform/the 1851 socket MAY be right around the corner,if you ALREADY own an alder lake board/an i9-12900k/ks,go ahead and get an i9-13900k,I don't think thats a bad idea,but investing in Alder Lake/Raptor Lake,this late in its life cycle, isn't necessarily a great idea/again most likely the i9-14900ks,will not be on Raptor Lake/the 1,700 socket and it will be on the meteor lake platform/the 1851 socket. To put this in prospective and I know this isn't the entire story/power/pin count isn't everything,but it does mean A LOT,more pins equals more power and more surface area,surface area allows for more cores and more pins allow you to power those cores/you won't have as many power restraints, this isn't the whole picture, but this is DEFINITELY something to think about, Kaby Lake,which came out in 2016 had 1,151 pins and AM4,that came out in 2016 had 1,331 pins,Alder Lake/Raptor Lake have 1,700 pins, AM5 has 1,718 pins and Meteor Lake has 1,851 pins,like I said pin count doesn't mean everything and it MAY be something AMD can work through with optimization,time will tell,but this is something that NEEDs to be brought up/at least looked at/observed.
@DM-gs2vo
@DM-gs2vo 2 жыл бұрын
You my friend are READING OUR MINDS!!!! You knew EXACTLY what we wanted to hear after the reviews of new intel processors and that is MOTHERBOARDS!!! Thank you! Such an amazing value you are and i don't mean your channel, i mean your knowledge man.
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 2 жыл бұрын
That was the hope! We figured the other channels would do a great job testing the CPUs and we wanted to help people with the next steps. So glad you enjoyed and thank you!
@kaustubhx5452
@kaustubhx5452 2 жыл бұрын
@@PCBuilderChannel Hey! Can you please suggest me a few best value mATX Z690 board? Only a limited options available in India
@SeaJay_Oceans
@SeaJay_Oceans Жыл бұрын
@@PCBuilderChannel I like the Lark Pro mini box - it is cute & a Celeron so fast enough for internet, email, & office stuff - even some games too...
@davenelson4334
@davenelson4334 Жыл бұрын
@@PCBuilderChannel you nailed it
@sviathcisneros2142
@sviathcisneros2142 Жыл бұрын
I swear 😂😂😂😂
@dirtmcgurty
@dirtmcgurty 2 жыл бұрын
You fill such an important niche with your excellent videos. While most sites are focused on benchmarking, you help to distill that data into actual purchase recommendations. Keep up the great work. Your content is an instant watch. Thank you for all you do!
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! That's exactly our goal so it's great to hear. Hope you keep enjoying the content!
@BenjaminSodos
@BenjaminSodos 2 жыл бұрын
Without benchmarking of any kind, specs mean nothing. I can show how a MB compared in every way is 10% spec'd faster but in 4k gaming that would come to 1FPS, so why did the 10% matter. It Didn't.
@petrosgl7
@petrosgl7 2 жыл бұрын
@@PCBuilderChannel Hi,i decided to upgrade from ryzen 5 1600 to the Intel i5 13600kf.I have order RAM ddr5 6400 with 32 cl.My dilemma at the moment is for the motherboard.I understand Z690 will be cheaper option right now for at least 100$,but the Z790 have higher RAM clockspeed,and cause the motherboard i'll get i 'll keep it for the next 3-4 years i think it's better to get the Z790 for future RAM upgrade .I've looking for Asus prime Z790-p.But for 40$ extra is also the Gigabyte Z790 Gaming X AX,a bit more expensive is also the MSI MPG Z790I Edge WiFi.you think i'll have any different in gaming between these?(cause i want it only for gaming).Any other sugestion?An opinion from an person with your experience and your knowledge will be realy helpfull for me.
@producedagains808
@producedagains808 Жыл бұрын
This was super helpful! Love the knowledge and research you put into all your videos. Thank you!
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for supporting the channel! So glad we could help!
@xtrmplatapus5103
@xtrmplatapus5103 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for making this video! I'm limited in my PC building knowledge, and this video was beautiful for tying together what all these specs mean and performance trade-offs. This video was awesome and I learned so much! I also greatly appreciate how share what's needed for good gaming, as it's overwhelming with all these boards that are more expensive with bells & whistles, if you just want to have a great gaming PC and don't care about the fancy RGB lights. I see other videos by you for PC building, I'm looking forward to learning from those!
@TraumaER
@TraumaER Жыл бұрын
This guy has the best CPU channel on KZbin and I've seen a lot. It applies to what matters to 99% of people. Too many of these types of channels talk about abstract BS or theory or complaints that have nothing to do with computers. I only use this guy now for my current and new 2023 build.
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the awesome feedback! Really means a lot to us. Hope you keep enjoying the content
@dronzer007
@dronzer007 Жыл бұрын
I was thinking of buying the z790 tomahawk ddr5 version. But after watching this I have decided to got for z690 ddr4. I will save around $200 in this and use that on getting a better gpu. Thanks for the guides like this. It helps a lot in choosing which parts to pick. Tomahawk and gigabyte gaming are both at the similar price now.
@valentinam6726
@valentinam6726 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video! These are always useful to understand all the functionalities! 😸
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@alphen9676
@alphen9676 2 жыл бұрын
I actually learn things when I watch your content. As to where guys like GN can fall into techno babble where it depends on existing knowledge. Being informative to people with little experience is something I have not seen much of in this community despite this being my second full pc build. You also seem positive as to where GN and HU feel cynical to the point where their content is exhausting.
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the awesome feedback! We really appreciate it. Our goal is to be accessible for new and returning pc builders alike and we love what we do so glad to hear that positive energy is coming through! Hope you keep enjoying the content (:
@Darelumga
@Darelumga 2 жыл бұрын
@@PCBuilderChannel I am a returning builder. my Old pc ist now 6 years old and showing its age. Mostly my 1080 is killing itself. This video helped me so much with info i didn´t find anywhere else. (ALC codec)
@medoxymed763
@medoxymed763 Жыл бұрын
@@PCBuilderChannel hello, can I use master hyper cooler 212 black edition with i5 13th motherboard gigabyte gaming x
@Daniel_Kani
@Daniel_Kani 2 жыл бұрын
Finally someone actually talking about the audio differences of motherboards and not just saying "lol buy a DAC you peasant". Thank you for your detailed and awesome videos!
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 2 жыл бұрын
So glad it was helpful! Thank you for watching
@heyflo1
@heyflo1 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jason! If you guys are just like me, not in a rush to build a gaming+streaming PC, wait for black friday + christmas discounts. I know you recommended a lot of Gigabyte, but I still can't get over the fact they've sent me so many broken components over the years (even after trying again, as it can happen to any manufacturers). 2 Boards & 2 gfx cards... This time I think I'm gonna try to have an MSI board, I've heard they stepped up recently on their products.
@heyflo1
@heyflo1 2 жыл бұрын
@@SERGIO.897 I had a problem once with an ASUS board, but I think it was just because I bought a poor PSU at that time lmao 😅 - Anyway on this gen ASUS seems to overprice their boards, so I'm not even considering buying one.
@dianaalyssa8726
@dianaalyssa8726 2 жыл бұрын
I agree, If there's some crazy deal for black friday/cyber monday that could change the whole decision on what to build. Still have an old MSI Bazooka Plus trucking along from Skylake, Asrock Z390 phanthom itx/a/c board also doing okay from my 9th gen 2020 build. Checking the individual board reviews usually helps to avoid ones that are more likely to have issues.
@Pembo-vn7qq
@Pembo-vn7qq 2 жыл бұрын
I’m about to build my first high end gaming desktop. In your experience, are Black Friday deals usually worthwhile? I worry about stock and inventory as we near the holiday season.
@heyflo1
@heyflo1 2 жыл бұрын
@@dianaalyssa8726 I feel you! Still have a Kaby Lake 7700k from 2017. It still holds its own but you can clearly feel it's getting harder to maintain good perf. I'm mostly worried about the Mobo these days... They're getting more expensive but offer way less sometimes, especially the z790. But as I'm not in a rush, I'll wait & see reviews & maybe new future boards.
@heyflo1
@heyflo1 2 жыл бұрын
@@Pembo-vn7qq In my experience it was always OK, but this time I am not so sure about it. Especially if you want to get the last gen, as GPU are already out of stock for Nvidia... Good ddr5 are out of stock as well as good price to perf Mobos. Only CPUs are still available haha. Maybe retailers will get more stock before, we can only hope so :D
@izhan22
@izhan22 2 жыл бұрын
Best multi feature.mobo 14:00 to 16:20 Z690 Ddr5 ALC 1220 audio codec ( better than 897 codec generally found on most Mobo ) Pci e 5.0 Bios flash Gigabyte gaming X Aorous elite AX ( WIFI , Bluetooth)
@VVayVVard
@VVayVVard Жыл бұрын
I intended to buy an Asus Maximus Z790 Hero, but now, given their recent quality-control failures, I'm not so sure anymore. I want 96 GB of memory for creative applications, preferably at a high speed, so I'm looking at G.Skill's set at 6400 MHz & CL32, but not many Z790 ATX motherboards support this combination of capacity and speed. If I avoid Asus boards, my choice seems to be either MSI Carbon/Edge/Tomahawk or the Asrock Riptide; apparently no Gigabyte board supports 6400 MHz CL32 at 96 GB currently. I'm willing to pay a couple hundred bucks extra for added reliability, since I can't afford to have the motherboard fry any of the components, but unfortunately there doesn't seem to be much data on failure rates. I wish there were more statistics on this so consumers could make a more informed decision.
@xM1K3L3x
@xM1K3L3x Жыл бұрын
Paused the video to thank you, I've built several pcs in the past but now I'm catching up to speed with everything that was released, it's easy to be overwhelmed but you explained every single aspect I could think of!
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the awesome feedback! It really means a lot to us. I've been in the same boat, coming back to it after some time away and needing to catch up. Best wishes on your new build!
@s1mph0ny
@s1mph0ny 2 жыл бұрын
It looks like the pg riptide is a pretty solid upgrade from the pg4 from asrock despite the similar name they have different features and the riptide has a 13 phase VRM instead of only 9. Sure would be nice if the branding for these new boards was more clear, but that's been a problem for a few years now.
@TronixA
@TronixA Жыл бұрын
I wanted to start building a new Z790 chipset PC but I'm seeing a lot of negative reviews for some of the high-end Asus and Gigabyte boards. Can you recommend a good high-end board for heavy content creation that isn't having memory error type issues?
@goldenfalcon75
@goldenfalcon75 Жыл бұрын
Great breakdown! Sad to see that none of these reasonably priced boards have a debug display, a feature which I've used countless times in the past. Also astonishing that the lower end ASUS boards don't have bios flashback, especially for being Z690s...
@HansGrub
@HansGrub 2 жыл бұрын
The Gigabyte Z690 Aorus Master is now $299 on Amazon and Newegg. I bought one myself. A total steal for that price and performance.
@waifuhunter9709
@waifuhunter9709 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah As you have said 1 year ago, i bought z690 gaming x ddr4. And i love this mother board And as you predicted, i can upgrade to 13900k without any problem for VRM. I have 12600k and this cpu is so good, i dont feel i need to upgrade to 13900k right now. Probably some years later when i feel i need a better cpu but right now, 12600k covering everything i need from high end cpu Great vid jason As always, you are on point.
@mariodevita661
@mariodevita661 2 жыл бұрын
Meteor lake in 2023 😃
@waifuhunter9709
@waifuhunter9709 2 жыл бұрын
@@mariodevita661 well, i need a new mobo fornthat time right? All i am saying that i can increase my performance by 2 times when i just need to swap a cpu. Long time a go, i couldnt do it because my really aweful mobo had really bad VRM.after swaping i5 to i7 , 1 week later my mobo fried and my psu.
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic! So glad you are all set and happy we could help you get there. Thank you for letting us know it means a lot to us
@mariodevita661
@mariodevita661 2 жыл бұрын
@@waifuhunter9709 yes fornthat MB socker lga 1851. Meteor lake and arrow lake. My cpu is i7 12700k and rog strix z690-a d4 and rtx 3060.
@mariodevita661
@mariodevita661 2 жыл бұрын
should you change that cpu? why?. I with the i7 12700k have plenty. I wait for a Meteor Lake to give the step to the ddr5.
@jonb058
@jonb058 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Most of your recent posts have helped me choose all the parts for my first PC
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 2 жыл бұрын
So glad we could help!!
@RobertO-fk9co
@RobertO-fk9co 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Jason, Quick question: if I buy a decent DDR4 Z690 board for a 12th Gen CPU (12100 or 12400) can I count on upgrading the CPU in 2-3 years to 13th Gen (13600 or higher) and get a decent performance or will I be bottlenecking the 13th Gen? Set-up for 70% Gaming and 30% photos/videos. Thanks
@trevorleibert781
@trevorleibert781 Жыл бұрын
What are your thoughts on the ASROCK Z790 PG Riptide?
@ianmurray9143
@ianmurray9143 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the amazing video Jason! I am planning on building a high end build in the next few months with the 4090 and was planning on getting a 13900kf to go with it. I was planning on getting the MSI MPG Z690 Force WIFI ATX motherboard to go with it and was wondering what you thought about that combo or what a better alternative would be?
@jasonwong2242
@jasonwong2242 2 жыл бұрын
From what I assume you want to partner a ultra fast ddr5 ram with the build, then definitely go with a z790 mobo is more stable, if you like MSI I would recommend z790 carbon. Force is kind of in a weird place, it's more expensive than edge but has less feature than a meg board like ace or unify. If you want white cosmetics, strix-a or m14 formula are better choice. Other than that 13900k not a great overclock cpu, but if you definitely want supreme overclock I think maximus hero is better.
@scottahart6440
@scottahart6440 2 жыл бұрын
May I recommend not MSI It does not give a greatest picture...
@scottahart6440
@scottahart6440 2 жыл бұрын
EVGA Z690 is a clearly better choice I have both and not even close to happy with MSI. Wish I had never purchased for what it is worth!
@TheGeneReyva
@TheGeneReyva Жыл бұрын
>best Price Performance section >sees the motherboard I've been eyeing for my next build >"No way, I do not have that good an eye for motherboards" >MFW he goes to the board I may be biased, but great video. Very informative. Thanks.
@cameronpateNC
@cameronpateNC 2 жыл бұрын
Love the content! I'm looking at building my first gaming PC in the next couple weeks and wanted to get your take on the best route to take. I'm going for 1440p gaming mostly but I do plan on playing some more open world/sim games in the future. I have a budget of about $1200. Do you think going the AMD route with either the 5600X(5700X if I go with a slightly cheaper motherboard) or an Intel 12th gen would be the better option? I don't care about overclocking. I'm leaning slightly to an AMD system because the b550 boards just seem to have everything I need with good audio for cheaper than the Intel boards. Just wanted to get your take on it.
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 2 жыл бұрын
5600X is roughly on par with the 12600K in gaming with slightly cheaper motherboards (though as you can see, Z690 has gotten much cheaper). For tighter budgets I'd go 5600X (or even just the 5600 to save money) and throw the savings into a faster GPU. Good luck on the build!
@cameronpateNC
@cameronpateNC 2 жыл бұрын
@@PCBuilderChannel thanks for the reply and help! Keep up the great work!
@rvh1999
@rvh1999 2 жыл бұрын
1200$ for the complete hardware? Good luck with that if you want a decent pc
@cameronpateNC
@cameronpateNC 2 жыл бұрын
@@rvh1999 the build I have priced together through Newegg I can get a 5600X a solid b550 board with good audio and an rx6800 for just under $1200. Older hardware is getting fairly cheap.
@LeftenantBeige
@LeftenantBeige 2 жыл бұрын
Thank YOU! I've waiting for anyone to post a next gen motherboard recommendations videos. Motherboards has been the most difficult item to choose for myself
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 2 жыл бұрын
So glad we could help!
@Lakdaruvo
@Lakdaruvo 2 жыл бұрын
I am planning to build a system with intel i9 -13900k(already purchased it) for my video editing. I did want to get a Gigabyte Z690 Aero D motherboard until I watched yourvideo. You are excellent . I watched several videos of yours, they are very educational. I agreed with other people who left comments for your video. Most of the things you are explainingwe do not get from other pundits in the field. Jason, I need you advice to select the right DDR5, Z790 motherboard with bios flashback and least expensive RTX 3070 GPU for my needs. Thank you very much in advance. By the way, I subscribedyou.
@harpoon_bakery162
@harpoon_bakery162 2 жыл бұрын
you seem very knowledgable, Why would i have crashing problems in my game with "Re-sizable Bar" enabled in my BIOS (for nVidia re-sizable bar enabled configuration). If i have my XMP memory profile enabled 6000 DDR5 ram, and 12900K overclocking enabled using ASUS AiOC overclocking BIOS features and I ALSO have resizable-BAR enabled...I get crashes in my game,,,, If I turn Re-SIZABLE-bar off, I don't get the crashes even though I have still have XMP enabled and AiOC enabled (ASUS overclocking on the 12900K in the ASUS ami bios)? Any ideas ???
@SofaKingA
@SofaKingA 2 жыл бұрын
I've watched this video 3 times and learned something new each time. Either I'm an idiot or there is a ton of great info in here or both. Nice job!
@rvh1999
@rvh1999 2 жыл бұрын
You're not an idiot, he just talks fast and covers a lot of info in just a short amount of time. So it's definitely not you
@kirby0louise
@kirby0louise 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Checked out reviews for 13th gen, and I think that Intel has reached a bit of a crossroads for their CPUs. Despite large boosts in core count in 13th gen thanks to the extra E cores, Intel could not always best AMD in multithreading, especially vs R9 7950X. Notable are workloads that benefit from AVX512, which Intel does not support because the E core architecture doesn't support those instructions, and AMD took wins in said workloads. So simply throwing more E cores at the multithreading problem is not always the best solution. Clearly hybrid processors must be designed carefully, with the right balance of P and E cores, as well as make sure the two core designs support all the same instructions. (AMD actually teased this when they revealed Zen4, as the mentioned Zen4c, a E-core-esque version of Zen4 that still supports all of the same instructions, clearly a shot at Intel)
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting! Thanks for sharing.
@ishiddddd4783
@ishiddddd4783 2 жыл бұрын
both take trades, but intel other offerings just blowed AMD out of the water, especially in pricing, the 13600k being a 320usd chip beating the 7700x in MT workloads by quite a margin, and the 13700k getting close or par to the 7900x while being quite noticeable cheaper and much easier to cool than the i9 13900k, and thats without tunning. hybrid processors are the way in all honestly, especially with shrinking nodes, apple and intel are in the trend, and amd will hop in later just like intel is implementing 3D chips on meteor lake.
@Incompared
@Incompared 2 жыл бұрын
@@PCBuilderChannel Im trying to find pretty much the Aero D but with an optical port. Do you have a recommendation that is not over 400 dollars or is that my best bet with the Aero D?
@HelloFellowMellowMarshmallow
@HelloFellowMellowMarshmallow Жыл бұрын
1:24 I appreciate the tip A LOT as someone who barely knows anything about picking pc parts
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel Жыл бұрын
Glad we could help! Also check out our How To Pick PC Parts 2023 video for more tips :)
@opinionatedjam
@opinionatedjam Жыл бұрын
I must have missed something... What is it about thunderbolt that creators would want/need? Are devices for their needs strictly thunderbolt? Genuinely curious, thank you!
@Damon89
@Damon89 Жыл бұрын
Hi PC Builder - Considering getting the ASUS PRIME Z790-A. Do you know if the light blue audio jack (normally line in rear panel) can be reconfigured as "Rear Speakers" in a 5.1 setup. According to the manual it says to use the pink front panel but that would be inconvenient - but in the manual for the Z790-P it says the light blue jack CAN be used for rear speakers, but for the Z790-A- it's different...
@ShuKeo
@ShuKeo 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, what about the MSI Z690 Edge?
@helennethers9777
@helennethers9777 11 ай бұрын
Do you know if using windows 7 or windows 10 will reduce speed used by windows to use the efficiency cores?
@lavapix
@lavapix Жыл бұрын
Z690 Hero vs the Z790 Hero. Any major differences? Pairing it up with the i9-13900k and an RTX4080. The thunderbolt ports are important to me. You explain everything really well.
@mohammadhussien5223
@mohammadhussien5223 Жыл бұрын
Thanks man. I'll go with Gigabyte Z690 G LGA 1700 looks the perfect upgrade.
@adamcramer8222
@adamcramer8222 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Question on the z690 strix formula, does it still have problems running 4 sticks of ddr5?
@kodiak7622
@kodiak7622 Жыл бұрын
Are there any of the higher end MSI boards you would recommend?
@taybetatik
@taybetatik Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the guide especially on the Audio Codec! I have overlooked this part while choosing my motherboard
@DukeMuffington
@DukeMuffington 11 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for explaining the differences between the chipsets on the market! I see a lot of Z690 boards that are half off of their z790 counterparts.
@nondisgioldasis1477
@nondisgioldasis1477 Жыл бұрын
what do you think of the msi meg z590 ace is it a great mother board or what would you sagest
@Zrb1te
@Zrb1te Жыл бұрын
Hi, Jason. What do u think about EVGA Z690 plates? Classified and Kingpin?
@neilevans3245
@neilevans3245 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. But just to confirm, in order to update the bios on a z690 board to use the new processors, I need an older alder lake processor, right? If you don't have one of those it might not be worth it over just getting a z790. Also, I've noticed that most of the GB motherboards seem to not have the analog audio outputs to run my old (but still good) 5.1 speakers.
@cladinshadows99
@cladinshadows99 2 жыл бұрын
Alternatively if your motherboard features a "bios flashback" button on the I/O you simply load the bios containing the update onto a properly formatted USB stick and install the update while connected to a PSU. No CPU required.
@neilevans3245
@neilevans3245 2 жыл бұрын
@@cladinshadows99 ah ok, duh . . . I wasn't getting that bit. Thanks
@PATentPending310
@PATentPending310 Жыл бұрын
This was a great video! I was not aware of your channel previously but I thought this overview was great and saved me the time of having to peruse this data myself. Thanks for presenting this in an informative and family friendly way!
@robiocraft
@robiocraft Жыл бұрын
This is the ultimate video that should be considered when looking for Z690/Z790 motherboards
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel Жыл бұрын
So glad it was helpful! Thank you for watching
@DocHolliday219
@DocHolliday219 2 жыл бұрын
How good is the MSI Z690 edge motor? I never see you recommend it. Just wondering if it's just a cost thing or if it's just no good?
@condi_tv
@condi_tv 2 жыл бұрын
The way you broke all this down into terms I could understand and gave honest suggestions super helped. The aero D is 200 off in aus and I'm gonna pick it as a streamer I think it will be a great option for gaming and editing.
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped! Thank you for watching
@ZeD-Games
@ZeD-Games 2 жыл бұрын
Im waiting for the 13400f to release, to build a new pc, should i go for b660 then?
@krisvaladez858
@krisvaladez858 2 жыл бұрын
What do u think about the evga z690 classified board ?
@gurneyjohnson3175
@gurneyjohnson3175 Жыл бұрын
Any recommendation for a MATX motherboard?
@panos2811
@panos2811 Жыл бұрын
hi.................. i have to connect both high density power connector up left..... or the one 8-pin?
@birdie5017
@birdie5017 Жыл бұрын
Hello, I'm planning to build a mini-itx build with an intel i7 13700k and trying to find a good motherboard for it. It seems like Gigabyte Z690I AORUS ULTRA had some issues and got recalled. Do you have any recommendations that matches the price of that board or would be close to it? I live in Europe. Thank you for the awesome video!
@haleemjouda9720
@haleemjouda9720 Жыл бұрын
Thanks What about MSI Z690 EDGE ? Is it good to pair with i7 13700k ?
@Aaron31056
@Aaron31056 Жыл бұрын
You get straight to the point with all the important answer, no time wasted! Love it!
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel Жыл бұрын
So glad you enjoyed! Thanks for watching
@georgenam6954
@georgenam6954 Жыл бұрын
You supplied the most concise information and advice to novice and intermediate users who want to build their own PC's. A fantastic video, glad I came across you - subscribed for sure!
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful! Thank you for the sub and welcome to the channel!
@SudoFed41
@SudoFed41 2 жыл бұрын
this was literally the best video over, thank you for breaking it down so much its hard to find easy to udnerstand videos like this.
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped! Thank you for watching!
@darekj4618
@darekj4618 Жыл бұрын
Hello Jason, thank you for the great video. I have a question which board is better the gigabyte Z690 Aorus Elite AX or the Gigabyte Z690 Master? Or the differences are between the boards. Ill be running a 13600k. Thank you
@moonchi_ld
@moonchi_ld 2 жыл бұрын
What do you think about NZXT N7 Z690?
@PodcastReeIs
@PodcastReeIs 2 жыл бұрын
hi Jason, do we have any news on the 13100 or 13400? For me, they'd be great budget options as the 12th gen variants were already great
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 2 жыл бұрын
We won't get locked 13th gen until probably Q1 2023. Current rumors are that they are just rebranded 12th gen that have been binned higher. But we'll have to see. I expect Intel to announce them at CES in January (I will be there!)
@omermaimon1490
@omermaimon1490 2 жыл бұрын
Hey great video! Do you think the i5-13600k can keep up with MSI B660-A PRO if im not interested in overclocking?
@tubeonmybulbs
@tubeonmybulbs Жыл бұрын
Thoughts on the Gigabyte Z690 AORUS ELITE AX ATX vs Gigabyte Z790 GAMING X AX? They seem to be both similar in price and I can't seem why you'd get the Z690 instead? Thanks!
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel Жыл бұрын
If they are similar priced go for it!
@tubeonmybulbs
@tubeonmybulbs Жыл бұрын
@@PCBuilderChannel I brought the Z690 based on your recommendation in the video, but thanks for replying and I hope you had a great holiday!
@tk37036
@tk37036 Жыл бұрын
Can you do a video on the EVGA 790 classified? I bought one on sale and don’t see many videos on it.
@jselbie
@jselbie Жыл бұрын
Great commentary on audio codec quality. Quick question. How do you identify the audio codec chipset if the motherboard specs just say "Realtek Audio CODEC". It never occurred to me that there could be quality differences between these chips. However, I only care about basic stereo from the line-out jack.
@dominik8291
@dominik8291 2 жыл бұрын
Man you are awesome ! I am upgrading my Ryzen 3700x to an 13600k and probably an ddr4 Gigabyte Board. I can use my 32gb ddr4 ram and the 13600k is much faster than my 3700x . You have gained a subscriber ^^
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 2 жыл бұрын
So glad you enjoyed! Thanks for the sub and welcome to the channel!
@fletch4882
@fletch4882 Жыл бұрын
Is the MSI MPG Z790 Edge a better motherboard than MSI Pro Z790-A? Awesome content
@BenjaminSodos
@BenjaminSodos 2 жыл бұрын
The one major thing you didn't talk about was will the 13900K be faster on a 790 board or slower.
@WestVessel
@WestVessel Жыл бұрын
Hey! What do you think of the ASRock Z790 PRO RS? Seems like the best deal for Canadians ATM!
@TheSanchhh
@TheSanchhh Жыл бұрын
I’m between a z790 aorus elite ax and z790 aero g right now. Not considering prices what’s the difference in the boards and which should I get?
@MrAxelStone
@MrAxelStone Жыл бұрын
About to pull the trigger on building a new i13900K gaming PC thanks to Amazon Prime sale....watching your video now. Your hand gestures have a Saul Goodman Productions vibe :)
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel Жыл бұрын
Better Call PC Builder!
@jersh9024
@jersh9024 2 жыл бұрын
I'm planning on using an I5 13600 with a Z690 motherboard paired with the Radeon 7900 xtx, when it's released. I read that ASUS has updated their motherboards to support smart access memory for Radeon GPUs. Do most Z690 motherboards, from other manufacturers, also support smart access memory, in addition to rebar? Is this an important feature I should be looking for and possibly go with an AMD CPU instead?
@benediktmusialski2207
@benediktmusialski2207 Жыл бұрын
Omg if i had only watched this video when i started looking into pc stuff! You are explaining everything casually along the way, and i had to watch ten thousand videos for the information you just say in 1 video. Great work!
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel Жыл бұрын
Glad you found us! Thanks for the feedback it means a lot to us
@rudicuevas809
@rudicuevas809 2 жыл бұрын
Whats your opinion on the ASRock Z790 PG RIPTIDE DDR5?
@alanfarkas
@alanfarkas 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for supporting the channel!
@josephandrezarpancoloma5616
@josephandrezarpancoloma5616 2 жыл бұрын
Could you please explain to me why you should avoid F models for video editing? Is there any benefit to having an integrated and a dedicated graphics card at the same time? I plan to purchase an rtx 3080 and the i7 13700 processor. Thank you very much.
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 2 жыл бұрын
The Intel quick sync is very helpful when rendering video
@antoniodesiderio576
@antoniodesiderio576 2 жыл бұрын
Do you recommend the z790 gigabyte aorus elite ax for a 4080 fe and i7-13700k build? Wich is its audio codec?
@Landolakes420
@Landolakes420 Жыл бұрын
would the z790 with intel 13600k along side the 3080 be a good setup?
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel Жыл бұрын
Depends on which Z790, probably overkill. See our 13600K build guide for more
@Landolakes420
@Landolakes420 Жыл бұрын
@@PCBuilderChannel thank you👍🏻
@grim3800
@grim3800 2 жыл бұрын
Thoughts on the z690 unify X?
@Raidoguy
@Raidoguy 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! 😊 Question should I be switching my 1070ti for something better since all the newer gpus have ray tracing and G-sync. ? Currently I just upgraded my cpu from a ryson 1700x to a i5 12600k. Right now my Monitor is plugged into the Asus prime Z690 P D4 so I am using the gpu driver from my cpu to help the 1070ti with some games (the game “Rust” for example). The problem is, if it is an problem 😂 that I can’t enable G-sync in the Nvidia settings. So I thought maybe I need to upgrade my gpu so i can enable G-sync and have ray tracing and better performance without stutter. Is it even reasonable to upgrade to a higher end gpu Nvidia/AMD?
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I'm not sure what you mean by using the iGPU to help in games. Typically if you select that it will use your iGPU instead of your 1070 Ti, not in addition to. Make sure your monitor is plugged into your monitor (use displayport if possible), select the 1070 Ti, and that should allow you to enable G-Sync (unless your monitor lacks it or Freesync which shows up as Gsync compatible). With the 12600K you can pretty much upgrade to the fastest GPU you'd like, great CPU. Hope all that helps!
@Raidoguy
@Raidoguy 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the reply, Just for clarifying I am using the power of the IGpu to power Wallpaper engine to have a nice smooth 60fps moving background. I thought that when you aren't in full screen in game (so in borderless window; which I use) that the background wallpaper also renders which makes my gaming performance tank. Which then my conclusion was that I will be using the IGpu for the sick wallpaper and the 1070ti for gaming (in that sense it helps the 1070ti does it not?)
@Raidoguy
@Raidoguy 2 жыл бұрын
The bottleneck would be the GPU then right?
@amir4829m
@amir4829m 2 жыл бұрын
Hi , Does the z690 motherboard use all the power of the 13600k?
@rizwanaly
@rizwanaly 11 ай бұрын
Fantastic video.. thank you, Jason. My house fuse randomly trips every alternate day, I'm afraid of the sudden shutdown of the gaming pc.. Kindly advise on the wattage of a power backup, surge protector, So that The pc won't shut suddenly and I'll have time to reset the fuse... system is msi pro Z790 A with i5 13600k, asus tuf 4070 ti, corsair rme850 power supply. Estimated power draw 500-600 watts (excluding display) I'm confused between the ups rated 900w or 1000 w or 1500w. Leaning towards 900w based on budget.
@doro626
@doro626 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you and keep the content coming. Even the videos that I think dont pertain to me, teach me something. I'm planning on building the most "future proof" system I can , without getting a 4000 series Nvidia card and these all educate me on the developments of the last few years that I have ignored.
@tanviralam3924
@tanviralam3924 2 жыл бұрын
Dear Jason, Gigabyte Z690 AORUS PRO or MSI MAG Z690 TOMAHAWK - which would be a better choice for Core i513600k build ? Thanks !
@sahilashraffsa
@sahilashraffsa Жыл бұрын
can you suggest a best and performance z790 motherboard to pair up with i9 13900K
@johannbach1903
@johannbach1903 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I was waiting for 🙏. Thank you for another great informative video.
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! Do me a favor and hit that like button if you can so youtube knows to share the video. Thanks so much!
@bussin9452
@bussin9452 2 жыл бұрын
@pcbuilder nah what you been on point lately with these videos this exactlywhat I needed 👏🏾👏🏾
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it! :)
@MuhtesemHikayeci
@MuhtesemHikayeci 2 жыл бұрын
what board is the best DDR4 for the 13900k?
@washaa
@washaa Жыл бұрын
This was exacty what I was looking for, you hit all the points. Cheers!
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel Жыл бұрын
So glad it was helpful! Thank you for watching
@myaccountdied
@myaccountdied 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this vid! Currently have an i7-8700k with a RTX 3090 for playing triple-A games at 1440p 144hz. With black friday coming up the time seems right to upgrade the CPU. Was dreading having to buy new RAM, didn't even think about keeping my current DDR4. That should save some money. :)
@q3zenith
@q3zenith Жыл бұрын
same bro, which cpu ur playing to get and motherboard? for me i am looking for Z690 with a 13700k. Z690 because its DDR4 and my rams are DDR4. I dont think it's worth changing for DDR5 or prove me wrong =P
@nsns7993
@nsns7993 Жыл бұрын
3090, triple A games on 1440/144hz? Absolute bs 😬
@joker_rj9919
@joker_rj9919 2 жыл бұрын
Hello! What do you think about the Strix Z690-G Wifi paired with 13900KF and Trident Z5 6000Mhz CL36, no overclock intention for now. It has BIOS Flashback but the store already updated its BIOS. Bought this kit at a really nice price but still did not tested yet
@dreamEnd
@dreamEnd Жыл бұрын
Not sure if I'm misunderstanding something, but I would like a clarification. If I have a mid level DDR5 memory, for example 6200Mhz CL36 DDR5; And hypothetically putting them on the same "model" motherboard such as Strix Z690-F and Strix Z790-F, will I theoretically get a better performance with Z790? Or does this only apply to high end memory with speed rating above the marketed max Z690 memory? (6400mhz in this case)
@miguelguapilla5907
@miguelguapilla5907 Жыл бұрын
what is the best for intel 13th gen, mini ITX form factor
@siretrasher1
@siretrasher1 2 жыл бұрын
@3:14 AND @4:40 @4:50 What is DDR-5 Z760 ???? PCI-E gen 5 M.2 will not be supported by 12th and 13th gen intel CPU's
@CvpOfJoe
@CvpOfJoe 2 жыл бұрын
The Gigabyte Z690 itx mobo you recommended only has pcie gen 3 for the gpu, is this a deal breaker?
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 2 жыл бұрын
YES! OMG how does that board even get approved as a design? I try to triple check everything, but there are some things I just assume (like at least PCIE gen 4 at the GPU slot on a Z690 board). I'm deleting it from the video (might take a day to process). Phantom Gaming Z690I is the best ITX then. Thank you for spotting that!
@CvpOfJoe
@CvpOfJoe 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped! It’s a shame there aren’t many decent itx options for motherboards nowadays, I was hoping to build an SFF system with the new generations of hardware coming out.
@oliverjansson8014
@oliverjansson8014 2 жыл бұрын
Can I install cpu and every outer component in a build and then do Q flash plus?
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. Just make sure that the PSU switch is "on" with the PC turned off and push the bios flash button.
@CrazyE32
@CrazyE32 2 жыл бұрын
Will the z690 have updates in the future for 13th gen?
@fletch4882
@fletch4882 Жыл бұрын
Awesome content, will you do a video focusing on Z790s motherboards, Thank you
@Randomshotscentral
@Randomshotscentral 2 жыл бұрын
Would a 240mm AIO cooling be enough to cool a i5 13600k for gaming?
@Un3arbihesseux
@Un3arbihesseux Жыл бұрын
Hi, what would you rate the MSI MPG Z790 Edge Wifi DDR5? I ordered it for an i7-13700KF and an rtx 4080. Thanks!
@bryanidk6064
@bryanidk6064 2 жыл бұрын
i subscribed when you just started this channel and glad to see your subscribers reach more than 200k now. i find your motherboard reviews you recommended for the 2 different brands of processor particularly useful especially for people who are looking to get a new rig. keep the good work up!
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for being with us on the journey Bryan! We really appreciate it
@ChannelingDaily
@ChannelingDaily Жыл бұрын
Question! Can you use the same DDR5 ram to add in the 4 slots on the motherboard?
This trend NEEDS to stop with motherboards!
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