Best Z790 Motherboard & Best Z690 Motherboard for 13th Gen Intel Raptor Lake | Z690 vs Z790

[@PCBuilderChannel]

*Corrections: 1) I refer to Z790 having a better memory "controller" but that term is incorrect. Z790 improvements are to trace/topology/shielding. 2) The ASRock Riptide Z690M has 2 M.2 slots, not 1. 3) Removed ITX recommendation due to an issue with that board, alternate linked in description.* What Motherboard features do you look for in a board? Tell your story in a new comment!

[@madarasoun3018]

Still, i'm one of those guys who never used more than 1 M.2 drive :D

[@JKchanel-rx4pf]

What's the best z790 board not the cheapest or price to performance just want to know which one is the best for the 13900 k don't matter the price

[@zhenjiexu4295]

is the gigabytes z690 master better than asus rog strix-e? I mean the gigabyte are cheaper now

[@piotr1103]

You put MSI z690 pro in ddr4 budget list but You've only discussed ddr5 version in the video. Is it the same deal or is something different about it? Also is there a much difference between MSI z690 pro ddr4 and Gigabyte Gaming X Z690 DDR4 if they were the same price?

[@mattmatt2417]

This is coming from someone who has been on this platform for a WHILE at this point,I had an i9-12900ks and now an i9-13900k and Raptor lake is still on the 1700 socket/the Z790 uses the 1700 socket as well,this is just something that needs to be thought about/talked about. The real issue is,I think AMD is falling behind, YES they have 3D CPUs and MUCH better optimization,but their JUST getting DDR5 RAM and their JUST catching up at the end of a generation/the Meteor Lake platform/1851 socket,MAY come out SOON/the i9-14900ks, will most likely be released on the meteor lake platform/1851 socket. I think this is something people NEED to be thinking about, IF your planning on investing in Raptor Lake/Z790 boards/the meteor lake platform/the 1851 socket MAY be right around the corner,if you ALREADY own an alder lake board/an i9-12900k/ks,go ahead and get an i9-13900k,I don't think thats a bad idea,but investing in Alder Lake/Raptor Lake,this late in its life cycle, isn't necessarily a great idea/again most likely the i9-14900ks,will not be on Raptor Lake/the 1,700 socket and it will be on the meteor lake platform/the 1851 socket. To put this in prospective and I know this isn't the entire story/power/pin count isn't everything,but it does mean A LOT,more pins equals more power and more surface area,surface area allows for more cores and more pins allow you to power those cores/you won't have as many power restraints, this isn't the whole picture, but this is DEFINITELY something to think about, Kaby Lake,which came out in 2016 had 1,151 pins and AM4,that came out in 2016 had 1,331 pins,Alder Lake/Raptor Lake have 1,700 pins, AM5 has 1,718 pins and Meteor Lake has 1,851 pins,like I said pin count doesn't mean everything and it MAY be something AMD can work through with optimization,time will tell,but this is something that NEEDs to be brought up/at least looked at/observed.

[@DM-gs2vo]

You my friend are READING OUR MINDS!!!! You knew EXACTLY what we wanted to hear after the reviews of new intel processors and that is MOTHERBOARDS!!! Thank you! Such an amazing value you are and i don't mean your channel, i mean your knowledge man.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

That was the hope! We figured the other channels would do a great job testing the CPUs and we wanted to help people with the next steps. So glad you enjoyed and thank you!

[@kaustubhx5452]

@@PCBuilderChannel Hey! Can you please suggest me a few best value mATX Z690 board? Only a limited options available in India

[@SeaJay_Oceans]

@@PCBuilderChannel I like the Lark Pro mini box - it is cute & a Celeron so fast enough for internet, email, & office stuff - even some games too...

[@davenelson4334]

@@PCBuilderChannel you nailed it

[@sviathcisneros2142]

I swear 😂😂😂😂

[@dirtmcgurty]

You fill such an important niche with your excellent videos. While most sites are focused on benchmarking, you help to distill that data into actual purchase recommendations. Keep up the great work. Your content is an instant watch. Thank you for all you do!

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Thank you so much! That's exactly our goal so it's great to hear. Hope you keep enjoying the content!

[@BenjaminSodos]

Without benchmarking of any kind, specs mean nothing. I can show how a MB compared in every way is 10% spec'd faster but in 4k gaming that would come to 1FPS, so why did the 10% matter. It Didn't.

[@petrosgl7]

@@PCBuilderChannel Hi,i decided to upgrade from ryzen 5 1600 to the Intel i5 13600kf.I have order RAM ddr5 6400 with 32 cl.My dilemma at the moment is for the motherboard.I understand Z690 will be cheaper option right now for at least 100$,but the Z790 have higher RAM clockspeed,and cause the motherboard i'll get i 'll keep it for the next 3-4 years i think it's better to get the Z790 for future RAM upgrade .I've looking for Asus prime Z790-p.But for 40$ extra is also the Gigabyte Z790 Gaming X AX,a bit more expensive is also the MSI MPG Z790I Edge WiFi.you think i'll have any different in gaming between these?(cause i want it only for gaming).Any other sugestion?An opinion from an person with your experience and your knowledge will be realy helpfull for me.

[@izhan22]

Best multi feature.mobo 14:00 to 16:20 Z690 Ddr5 ALC 1220 audio codec ( better than 897 codec generally found on most Mobo ) Pci e 5.0 Bios flash Gigabyte gaming X Aorous elite AX ( WIFI , Bluetooth)

[@xtrmplatapus5103]

Thank you so much for making this video! I'm limited in my PC building knowledge, and this video was beautiful for tying together what all these specs mean and performance trade-offs. This video was awesome and I learned so much! I also greatly appreciate how share what's needed for good gaming, as it's overwhelming with all these boards that are more expensive with bells & whistles, if you just want to have a great gaming PC and don't care about the fancy RGB lights. I see other videos by you for PC building, I'm looking forward to learning from those!

[@producedagains808]

This was super helpful! Love the knowledge and research you put into all your videos. Thank you!

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Thank you so much for supporting the channel! So glad we could help!

[@dronzer007]

I was thinking of buying the z790 tomahawk ddr5 version. But after watching this I have decided to got for z690 ddr4. I will save around $200 in this and use that on getting a better gpu. Thanks for the guides like this. It helps a lot in choosing which parts to pick. Tomahawk and gigabyte gaming are both at the similar price now.

[@waifuhunter9709]

Yeah As you have said 1 year ago, i bought z690 gaming x ddr4. And i love this mother board And as you predicted, i can upgrade to 13900k without any problem for VRM. I have 12600k and this cpu is so good, i dont feel i need to upgrade to 13900k right now. Probably some years later when i feel i need a better cpu but right now, 12600k covering everything i need from high end cpu Great vid jason As always, you are on point.

[@mariodevita661]

Meteor lake in 2023 😃

[@waifuhunter9709]

@@mariodevita661 well, i need a new mobo fornthat time right? All i am saying that i can increase my performance by 2 times when i just need to swap a cpu. Long time a go, i couldnt do it because my really aweful mobo had really bad VRM.after swaping i5 to i7 , 1 week later my mobo fried and my psu.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Fantastic! So glad you are all set and happy we could help you get there. Thank you for letting us know it means a lot to us

[@mariodevita661]

@@waifuhunter9709 yes fornthat MB socker lga 1851. Meteor lake and arrow lake. My cpu is i7 12700k and rog strix z690-a d4 and rtx 3060.

[@mariodevita661]

should you change that cpu? why?. I with the i7 12700k have plenty. I wait for a Meteor Lake to give the step to the ddr5.

[@valentinam6726]

Thank you for the video! These are always useful to understand all the functionalities! 😸

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Glad it was helpful!

[@alphen9676]

I actually learn things when I watch your content. As to where guys like GN can fall into techno babble where it depends on existing knowledge. Being informative to people with little experience is something I have not seen much of in this community despite this being my second full pc build. You also seem positive as to where GN and HU feel cynical to the point where their content is exhausting.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Thank you for the awesome feedback! We really appreciate it. Our goal is to be accessible for new and returning pc builders alike and we love what we do so glad to hear that positive energy is coming through! Hope you keep enjoying the content (:

[@Darelumga]

@@PCBuilderChannel I am a returning builder. my Old pc ist now 6 years old and showing its age. Mostly my 1080 is killing itself. This video helped me so much with info i didn´t find anywhere else. (ALC codec)

[@medoxymed763]

@@PCBuilderChannel hello, can I use master hyper cooler 212 black edition with i5 13th motherboard gigabyte gaming x

[@TraumaER]

This guy has the best CPU channel on KZbin and I've seen a lot. It applies to what matters to 99% of people. Too many of these types of channels talk about abstract BS or theory or complaints that have nothing to do with computers. I only use this guy now for my current and new 2023 build.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Thanks for the awesome feedback! Really means a lot to us. Hope you keep enjoying the content

[@lavapix]

Z690 Hero vs the Z790 Hero. Any major differences? Pairing it up with the i9-13900k and an RTX4080. The thunderbolt ports are important to me. You explain everything really well.

[@VVayVVard]

I intended to buy an Asus Maximus Z790 Hero, but now, given their recent quality-control failures, I'm not so sure anymore. I want 96 GB of memory for creative applications, preferably at a high speed, so I'm looking at G.Skill's set at 6400 MHz & CL32, but not many Z790 ATX motherboards support this combination of capacity and speed. If I avoid Asus boards, my choice seems to be either MSI Carbon/Edge/Tomahawk or the Asrock Riptide; apparently no Gigabyte board supports 6400 MHz CL32 at 96 GB currently. I'm willing to pay a couple hundred bucks extra for added reliability, since I can't afford to have the motherboard fry any of the components, but unfortunately there doesn't seem to be much data on failure rates. I wish there were more statistics on this so consumers could make a more informed decision.

[@xM1K3L3x]

Paused the video to thank you, I've built several pcs in the past but now I'm catching up to speed with everything that was released, it's easy to be overwhelmed but you explained every single aspect I could think of!

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Thank you for the awesome feedback! It really means a lot to us. I've been in the same boat, coming back to it after some time away and needing to catch up. Best wishes on your new build!

[@heyflo1]

Thanks Jason! If you guys are just like me, not in a rush to build a gaming+streaming PC, wait for black friday + christmas discounts. I know you recommended a lot of Gigabyte, but I still can't get over the fact they've sent me so many broken components over the years (even after trying again, as it can happen to any manufacturers). 2 Boards & 2 gfx cards... This time I think I'm gonna try to have an MSI board, I've heard they stepped up recently on their products.

[@heyflo1]

@@SERGIO.897 I had a problem once with an ASUS board, but I think it was just because I bought a poor PSU at that time lmao 😅 - Anyway on this gen ASUS seems to overprice their boards, so I'm not even considering buying one.

[@dianaalyssa8726]

I agree, If there's some crazy deal for black friday/cyber monday that could change the whole decision on what to build. Still have an old MSI Bazooka Plus trucking along from Skylake, Asrock Z390 phanthom itx/a/c board also doing okay from my 9th gen 2020 build. Checking the individual board reviews usually helps to avoid ones that are more likely to have issues.

[@Pembo-vn7qq]

I’m about to build my first high end gaming desktop. In your experience, are Black Friday deals usually worthwhile? I worry about stock and inventory as we near the holiday season.

[@heyflo1]

@@dianaalyssa8726 I feel you! Still have a Kaby Lake 7700k from 2017. It still holds its own but you can clearly feel it's getting harder to maintain good perf. I'm mostly worried about the Mobo these days... They're getting more expensive but offer way less sometimes, especially the z790. But as I'm not in a rush, I'll wait & see reviews & maybe new future boards.

[@heyflo1]

@@Pembo-vn7qq In my experience it was always OK, but this time I am not so sure about it. Especially if you want to get the last gen, as GPU are already out of stock for Nvidia... Good ddr5 are out of stock as well as good price to perf Mobos. Only CPUs are still available haha. Maybe retailers will get more stock before, we can only hope so :D

[@HelloFellowMellowMarshmallow]

1:24 I appreciate the tip A LOT as someone who barely knows anything about picking pc parts

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Glad we could help! Also check out our How To Pick PC Parts 2023 video for more tips :)

[@s1mph0ny]

It looks like the pg riptide is a pretty solid upgrade from the pg4 from asrock despite the similar name they have different features and the riptide has a 13 phase VRM instead of only 9. Sure would be nice if the branding for these new boards was more clear, but that's been a problem for a few years now.

[@jonb058]

Great video! Most of your recent posts have helped me choose all the parts for my first PC

[@PCBuilderChannel]

So glad we could help!!

[@goldenfalcon75]

Great breakdown! Sad to see that none of these reasonably priced boards have a debug display, a feature which I've used countless times in the past. Also astonishing that the lower end ASUS boards don't have bios flashback, especially for being Z690s...

[@Daniel_Kani]

Finally someone actually talking about the audio differences of motherboards and not just saying "lol buy a DAC you peasant". Thank you for your detailed and awesome videos!

[@PCBuilderChannel]

So glad it was helpful! Thank you for watching

[@RobertO-fk9co]

Hi Jason, Quick question: if I buy a decent DDR4 Z690 board for a 12th Gen CPU (12100 or 12400) can I count on upgrading the CPU in 2-3 years to 13th Gen (13600 or higher) and get a decent performance or will I be bottlenecking the 13th Gen? Set-up for 70% Gaming and 30% photos/videos. Thanks

[@LeftenantBeige]

Thank YOU! I've waiting for anyone to post a next gen motherboard recommendations videos. Motherboards has been the most difficult item to choose for myself

[@PCBuilderChannel]

So glad we could help!

[@Lakdaruvo]

I am planning to build a system with intel i9 -13900k(already purchased it) for my video editing. I did want to get a Gigabyte Z690 Aero D motherboard until I watched yourvideo. You are excellent . I watched several videos of yours, they are very educational. I agreed with other people who left comments for your video. Most of the things you are explainingwe do not get from other pundits in the field. Jason, I need you advice to select the right DDR5, Z790 motherboard with bios flashback and least expensive RTX 3070 GPU for my needs. Thank you very much in advance. By the way, I subscribedyou.

[@harpoon_bakery162]

you seem very knowledgable, Why would i have crashing problems in my game with "Re-sizable Bar" enabled in my BIOS (for nVidia re-sizable bar enabled configuration). If i have my XMP memory profile enabled 6000 DDR5 ram, and 12900K overclocking enabled using ASUS AiOC overclocking BIOS features and I ALSO have resizable-BAR enabled...I get crashes in my game,,,, If I turn Re-SIZABLE-bar off, I don't get the crashes even though I have still have XMP enabled and AiOC enabled (ASUS overclocking on the 12900K in the ASUS ami bios)? Any ideas ???

[@PATentPending310]

This was a great video! I was not aware of your channel previously but I thought this overview was great and saved me the time of having to peruse this data myself. Thanks for presenting this in an informative and family friendly way!

[@ianmurray9143]

Thanks so much for the amazing video Jason! I am planning on building a high end build in the next few months with the 4090 and was planning on getting a 13900kf to go with it. I was planning on getting the MSI MPG Z690 Force WIFI ATX motherboard to go with it and was wondering what you thought about that combo or what a better alternative would be?

[@jasonwong2242]

From what I assume you want to partner a ultra fast ddr5 ram with the build, then definitely go with a z790 mobo is more stable, if you like MSI I would recommend z790 carbon. Force is kind of in a weird place, it's more expensive than edge but has less feature than a meg board like ace or unify. If you want white cosmetics, strix-a or m14 formula are better choice. Other than that 13900k not a great overclock cpu, but if you definitely want supreme overclock I think maximus hero is better.

[@scottahart6440]

May I recommend not MSI It does not give a greatest picture...

[@scottahart6440]

EVGA Z690 is a clearly better choice I have both and not even close to happy with MSI. Wish I had never purchased for what it is worth!

[@HansGrub]

The Gigabyte Z690 Aorus Master is now $299 on Amazon and Newegg. I bought one myself. A total steal for that price and performance.

[@cameronpateNC]

Love the content! I'm looking at building my first gaming PC in the next couple weeks and wanted to get your take on the best route to take. I'm going for 1440p gaming mostly but I do plan on playing some more open world/sim games in the future. I have a budget of about $1200. Do you think going the AMD route with either the 5600X(5700X if I go with a slightly cheaper motherboard) or an Intel 12th gen would be the better option? I don't care about overclocking. I'm leaning slightly to an AMD system because the b550 boards just seem to have everything I need with good audio for cheaper than the Intel boards. Just wanted to get your take on it.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

5600X is roughly on par with the 12600K in gaming with slightly cheaper motherboards (though as you can see, Z690 has gotten much cheaper). For tighter budgets I'd go 5600X (or even just the 5600 to save money) and throw the savings into a faster GPU. Good luck on the build!

[@cameronpateNC]

@@PCBuilderChannel thanks for the reply and help! Keep up the great work!

[@rvh1999]

1200$ for the complete hardware? Good luck with that if you want a decent pc

[@cameronpateNC]

@@rvh1999 the build I have priced together through Newegg I can get a 5600X a solid b550 board with good audio and an rx6800 for just under $1200. Older hardware is getting fairly cheap.

[@RchamTV]

Needed this info for my 13900 build, great video. Thank you!!

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Glad I could help!

[@skifteku]

What did you choose?

[@kirby0louise]

Great video. Checked out reviews for 13th gen, and I think that Intel has reached a bit of a crossroads for their CPUs. Despite large boosts in core count in 13th gen thanks to the extra E cores, Intel could not always best AMD in multithreading, especially vs R9 7950X. Notable are workloads that benefit from AVX512, which Intel does not support because the E core architecture doesn't support those instructions, and AMD took wins in said workloads. So simply throwing more E cores at the multithreading problem is not always the best solution. Clearly hybrid processors must be designed carefully, with the right balance of P and E cores, as well as make sure the two core designs support all the same instructions. (AMD actually teased this when they revealed Zen4, as the mentioned Zen4c, a E-core-esque version of Zen4 that still supports all of the same instructions, clearly a shot at Intel)

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Interesting! Thanks for sharing.

[@ishiddddd4783]

both take trades, but intel other offerings just blowed AMD out of the water, especially in pricing, the 13600k being a 320usd chip beating the 7700x in MT workloads by quite a margin, and the 13700k getting close or par to the 7900x while being quite noticeable cheaper and much easier to cool than the i9 13900k, and thats without tunning. hybrid processors are the way in all honestly, especially with shrinking nodes, apple and intel are in the trend, and amd will hop in later just like intel is implementing 3D chips on meteor lake.

[@Incompared]

@@PCBuilderChannel Im trying to find pretty much the Aero D but with an optical port. Do you have a recommendation that is not over 400 dollars or is that my best bet with the Aero D?

[@condi_tv]

The way you broke all this down into terms I could understand and gave honest suggestions super helped. The aero D is 200 off in aus and I'm gonna pick it as a streamer I think it will be a great option for gaming and editing.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Glad it helped! Thank you for watching

[@taybetatik]

Thanks for the guide especially on the Audio Codec! I have overlooked this part while choosing my motherboard

[@mohammadhussien5223]

Thanks man. I'll go with Gigabyte Z690 G LGA 1700 looks the perfect upgrade.

[@doro626]

Thank you and keep the content coming. Even the videos that I think dont pertain to me, teach me something. I'm planning on building the most "future proof" system I can , without getting a 4000 series Nvidia card and these all educate me on the developments of the last few years that I have ignored.

[@navidsadr]

Man! you explain everything like a kind old teacher! Thanks a lot!

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Glad it was informative! Hope you keep enjoying all the content!

[@TheGeneReyva]

>best Price Performance section >sees the motherboard I've been eyeing for my next build >"No way, I do not have that good an eye for motherboards" >MFW he goes to the board I may be biased, but great video. Very informative. Thanks.

[@SofaKingA]

I've watched this video 3 times and learned something new each time. Either I'm an idiot or there is a ton of great info in here or both. Nice job!

[@rvh1999]

You're not an idiot, he just talks fast and covers a lot of info in just a short amount of time. So it's definitely not you

[@fortnite360HZ]

good video I am getting my MSI Tomahawk z790 with DDR4 which I plan to use my existing ram and the 13900 k core i9 I should have in a day already shipped not making the move to DDR5 as DDR4 is much more stable

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Best wishes on your build!

[@georgenam6954]

You supplied the most concise information and advice to novice and intermediate users who want to build their own PC's. A fantastic video, glad I came across you - subscribed for sure!

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Glad it was helpful! Thank you for the sub and welcome to the channel!

[@DukeMuffington]

Thank you so much for explaining the differences between the chipsets on the market! I see a lot of Z690 boards that are half off of their z790 counterparts.

[@siretrasher1]

@3:14 AND @4:40 @4:50 What is DDR-5 Z760 ???? PCI-E gen 5 M.2 will not be supported by 12th and 13th gen intel CPU's

[@SudoFed41]

this was literally the best video over, thank you for breaking it down so much its hard to find easy to udnerstand videos like this.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Glad it helped! Thank you for watching!

[@dominik8291]

Man you are awesome ! I am upgrading my Ryzen 3700x to an 13600k and probably an ddr4 Gigabyte Board. I can use my 32gb ddr4 ram and the 13600k is much faster than my 3700x . You have gained a subscriber ^^

[@PCBuilderChannel]

So glad you enjoyed! Thanks for the sub and welcome to the channel!

[@paololamperti6131]

Going for a 13600k or 12600K on Gigabyte GA-Z690 Gaming X DDR4. I don't play that much and use my pc mainly with Lightroom (I'm a professional photographer). Intel z690 won the battle over AMD side due to the support of Multiple Nvme (I pan to use at least 3 of the for working purposes). The performance of the new cpus and the use of the Nvme drives, surely will boost my workflow (atm i'm running a i7-7700). Productivity build on a budget.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Yes 7700K to 13600K will be massive! Good luck on the upgrade and don't forget to update the board bios (and keep checking back on the motherboard bios page as there will likely be several bug fix revisions in the coming weeks).

[@joestuehmer7967]

If u get a Z690 make sure its bios is updated or you won't be able to use it

[@paololamperti6131]

@@joestuehmer7967 Sure. I already checked and the bios for 13th gen is already available on Gigabyte website.

[@alanfarkas]

Thanks!

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Thank you for supporting the channel!

[@SgtSOB]

Slightly confused regarding your comment on the F series around 1:22. You said to avoid the F series because the integrated GPU helps with adobe exports......... wouldn't you want the F series if you work in Adobe products?

[@opinionatedjam]

I must have missed something... What is it about thunderbolt that creators would want/need? Are devices for their needs strictly thunderbolt? Genuinely curious, thank you!

[@Terron29]

great super clear content. Gonna get a z690. I am already about 300 over my intended budget for my new build so every bit helps. Subbed

[@Aaron31056]

You get straight to the point with all the important answer, no time wasted! Love it!

[@PCBuilderChannel]

So glad you enjoyed! Thanks for watching

[@bussin9452]

@pcbuilder nah what you been on point lately with these videos this exactlywhat I needed 👏🏾👏🏾

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Glad you liked it! :)

[@washaa]

This was exacty what I was looking for, you hit all the points. Cheers!

[@PCBuilderChannel]

So glad it was helpful! Thank you for watching

[@benediktmusialski2207]

Omg if i had only watched this video when i started looking into pc stuff! You are explaining everything casually along the way, and i had to watch ten thousand videos for the information you just say in 1 video. Great work!

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Glad you found us! Thanks for the feedback it means a lot to us

[@myaccountdied]

Thanks for this vid! Currently have an i7-8700k with a RTX 3090 for playing triple-A games at 1440p 144hz. With black friday coming up the time seems right to upgrade the CPU. Was dreading having to buy new RAM, didn't even think about keeping my current DDR4. That should save some money. :)

[@q3zenith]

same bro, which cpu ur playing to get and motherboard? for me i am looking for Z690 with a 13700k. Z690 because its DDR4 and my rams are DDR4. I dont think it's worth changing for DDR5 or prove me wrong =P

[@nsns7993]

3090, triple A games on 1440/144hz? Absolute bs 😬

[@bryanidk6064]

i subscribed when you just started this channel and glad to see your subscribers reach more than 200k now. i find your motherboard reviews you recommended for the 2 different brands of processor particularly useful especially for people who are looking to get a new rig. keep the good work up!

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Thank you so much for being with us on the journey Bryan! We really appreciate it

[@robiocraft]

This is the ultimate video that should be considered when looking for Z690/Z790 motherboards

[@PCBuilderChannel]

So glad it was helpful! Thank you for watching

[@helennethers9777]

Do you know if using windows 7 or windows 10 will reduce speed used by windows to use the efficiency cores?

[@darekj4618]

Hello Jason, thank you for the great video. I have a question which board is better the gigabyte Z690 Aorus Elite AX or the Gigabyte Z690 Master? Or the differences are between the boards. Ill be running a 13600k. Thank you

[@johannbach1903]

Exactly what I was waiting for 🙏. Thank you for another great informative video.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Glad you enjoyed it! Do me a favor and hit that like button if you can so youtube knows to share the video. Thanks so much!

[@Damon89]

Hi PC Builder - Considering getting the ASUS PRIME Z790-A. Do you know if the light blue audio jack (normally line in rear panel) can be reconfigured as "Rear Speakers" in a 5.1 setup. According to the manual it says to use the pink front panel but that would be inconvenient - but in the manual for the Z790-P it says the light blue jack CAN be used for rear speakers, but for the Z790-A- it's different...

[@trevorleibert781]

What are your thoughts on the ASROCK Z790 PG Riptide?

[@The_Ugly]

is it really bad to buy a (F) cpu for video exporting even if I have a high end GPU? _ mentioned at 1:23 _ how much performance difference is it?

[@icanhaskpop1239]

For the audio portion, I used mobo audio for quite a while, but a few years ago I went back to using a dedicated SoundBlaster Z with the external headphone amp and a pair of Beyerdynamics DT 990 Pro (250 ohm) headphones. Not just for gaming, but also quality music listening sessions (M4A, FLAC, and CD's) and I'll never go back to onboard mobo audio again.

[@Blizzy77]

I need some help! I want to upgrade my pc to a 4080 and i7 13th gen. This would be my pc spec with the upgrade. Would this be a good build or should I upgrade to a z790 a board and ddr5? Corsair iCUE 5000X RGB QL Intel Core i7 13700K Asus ROG STRIX Z690-A TeamGroup T-Force XTREEM ARGB 32GB 4x8GB 3200MHz DDR4 White Gigabyte GeForce RTX 4080 AERO OC 16GB Corsair iCUE H150i Elite Capellix WHITE Corsair RM850 V2 WHITE 850W Western Digital SN850 1TB

[@Shmoxx.]

Same cpu, running igpu waiting for the 4070ti super to come out, i was able to cop a MSI - MPG Z790 EDGE WIFI which is like top of the line for future proofing, ddr5, 4000 gpus for around 100 bucks off at best buy from black friday. Idk if its still going tho.

[@rizwanaly]

Fantastic video.. thank you, Jason. My house fuse randomly trips every alternate day, I'm afraid of the sudden shutdown of the gaming pc.. Kindly advise on the wattage of a power backup, surge protector, So that The pc won't shut suddenly and I'll have time to reset the fuse... system is msi pro Z790 A with i5 13600k, asus tuf 4070 ti, corsair rme850 power supply. Estimated power draw 500-600 watts (excluding display) I'm confused between the ups rated 900w or 1000 w or 1500w. Leaning towards 900w based on budget.

[@MrAxelStone]

About to pull the trigger on building a new i13900K gaming PC thanks to Amazon Prime sale....watching your video now. Your hand gestures have a Saul Goodman Productions vibe :)

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Better Call PC Builder!

[@nondisgioldasis1477]

what do you think of the msi meg z590 ace is it a great mother board or what would you sagest

[@Stuntzii1]

great video ty very much i have a 6600k atm i have 3600mhz ddr4 im sticking with that

[@adamcramer8222]

Great video. Question on the z690 strix formula, does it still have problems running 4 sticks of ddr5?

[@harpoon_bakery162]

My ASUS ROG Strix "E" z690 ddr5 audio codec says ALC4080 with Savitech SV3H712 amplifier, along with DTS® Sound Unbound and Sonic Studio III. Is this the cheapee-O one , like trash? Or is it a pretty decent one? What advantages will I see going to the Z790 of the same exact model from ASUS paired with a 13700K or 13900K? Will I enjoy ANY specific features that I don't get on my Z690?

[@jersh9024]

I'm planning on using an I5 13600 with a Z690 motherboard paired with the Radeon 7900 xtx, when it's released. I read that ASUS has updated their motherboards to support smart access memory for Radeon GPUs. Do most Z690 motherboards, from other manufacturers, also support smart access memory, in addition to rebar? Is this an important feature I should be looking for and possibly go with an AMD CPU instead?

[@mtutoriales]

I actually got the Asrock Z690 Taichi for 300 last month on holiday sales. Really great quality motherboard at such a good value.

[@TronixA]

I wanted to start building a new Z790 chipset PC but I'm seeing a lot of negative reviews for some of the high-end Asus and Gigabyte boards. Can you recommend a good high-end board for heavy content creation that isn't having memory error type issues?

[@VeniVidiAjax]

I bought the Z690 MSI torpedo(ddr5), as well as a 13900KF and some 6000mhz DDR5. (2x16 gb for 216€) Hope it works sweet No videocard yet, waiting for the 4080 release in Europe. So either way I buy that one, or if it’s too expensive I’ll buy a second hand 3080TI or 3090.

[@birdie5017]

Hello, I'm planning to build a mini-itx build with an intel i7 13700k and trying to find a good motherboard for it. It seems like Gigabyte Z690I AORUS ULTRA had some issues and got recalled. Do you have any recommendations that matches the price of that board or would be close to it? I live in Europe. Thank you for the awesome video!

[@angelogrieco]

Hi, I'm building an i5 13600K machine and we are in the situation now where a Gigabyte Z690M AORUS ELITE AX is the same price as an MSI PRO Z790-P WIFI. Which one woukld you go for, and why? Thanks

[@joker_rj9919]

Hello! What do you think about the Strix Z690-G Wifi paired with 13900KF and Trident Z5 6000Mhz CL36, no overclock intention for now. It has BIOS Flashback but the store already updated its BIOS. Bought this kit at a really nice price but still did not tested yet

[@tubeonmybulbs]

Thoughts on the Gigabyte Z690 AORUS ELITE AX ATX vs Gigabyte Z790 GAMING X AX? They seem to be both similar in price and I can't seem why you'd get the Z690 instead? Thanks!

[@PCBuilderChannel]

If they are similar priced go for it!

[@tubeonmybulbs]

@@PCBuilderChannel I brought the Z690 based on your recommendation in the video, but thanks for replying and I hope you had a great holiday!

[@soren777]

Bro, I loved this vid, you talk about everything we need to know and nothing that is useless, Ill be watching more of your stuff in the future. Also, thanks for all the info.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

So glad you found the channel! Hope you keep enjoying the content

[@MD-pz3cn]

Jason you rock, thank you man!

[@maxxomega6599]

Excellent video. I myself have only bought ASUS Motherboards for the last 30 years or so. Right now I have 4 of then and 3 are Strix ROG boards which is what I usually buy. But I decided just for fun to try a Z790 "TUF" a few weeks ago. Interesting that they had the Z790 board at the exact same price as the Z690 board. I also buy ASUS Strix ROG video cards too.

[@decree72]

Thanks helped me deciding, on my current gigabyte i got a 1220 realtek too, happy with the quality so i chose z690 and hope the bios upgrade for 13600 works...

[@PCBuilderChannel]

thank you for watching. So glad we could help!

[@megapro1725]

Thanks for the great video, well explained. I guess I'll take Gigabyte aorus elite ax 200$ with 13700k (gaming x is more expensive) But don't pay too much attention to flashback, it's not too important. You can restore it with a flasher easily. And it doesn't brick too often.

[@AZGhost623]

My z790 Asus wifi a, has bios flashback. Wasn't a requirement when I bought it. Was more looking at price in the z790 boards

[@DocHolliday219]

How good is the MSI Z690 edge motor? I never see you recommend it. Just wondering if it's just a cost thing or if it's just no good?

[@Erniebern06]

Great video! You have helped me immensely. I love the tips and format of your videos.

[@Neo_92]

Great video! 😊 Question should I be switching my 1070ti for something better since all the newer gpus have ray tracing and G-sync. ? Currently I just upgraded my cpu from a ryson 1700x to a i5 12600k. Right now my Monitor is plugged into the Asus prime Z690 P D4 so I am using the gpu driver from my cpu to help the 1070ti with some games (the game “Rust” for example). The problem is, if it is an problem 😂 that I can’t enable G-sync in the Nvidia settings. So I thought maybe I need to upgrade my gpu so i can enable G-sync and have ray tracing and better performance without stutter. Is it even reasonable to upgrade to a higher end gpu Nvidia/AMD?

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Thank you! I'm not sure what you mean by using the iGPU to help in games. Typically if you select that it will use your iGPU instead of your 1070 Ti, not in addition to. Make sure your monitor is plugged into your monitor (use displayport if possible), select the 1070 Ti, and that should allow you to enable G-Sync (unless your monitor lacks it or Freesync which shows up as Gsync compatible). With the 12600K you can pretty much upgrade to the fastest GPU you'd like, great CPU. Hope all that helps!

[@Neo_92]

Thanks for the reply, Just for clarifying I am using the power of the IGpu to power Wallpaper engine to have a nice smooth 60fps moving background. I thought that when you aren't in full screen in game (so in borderless window; which I use) that the background wallpaper also renders which makes my gaming performance tank. Which then my conclusion was that I will be using the IGpu for the sick wallpaper and the 1070ti for gaming (in that sense it helps the 1070ti does it not?)

[@Neo_92]

The bottleneck would be the GPU then right?

[@BarbsCozyCorner]

Super useful, thank you. 🎉 I was wondering what the Z meant and 690 vs 790. The bios update on the 690 does worry me. Like most I hate dealing with bios.😅

[@ThomasPaine01]

Another great video. I'm learning a lot with this channel. Thanks, Jason!

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Thanks Thomas!!

[@omermaimon1490]

Hey great video! Do you think the i5-13600k can keep up with MSI B660-A PRO if im not interested in overclocking?

[@bewsket]

My main question is, is it possible to update bios without the cpu or with 13th gen cpu? I am planning to buy the z690 aorus elite ddr5 version, but i am afraid i wont be able to turn it on with 13th gen 13600kf processor. i've heard that you have to have 12th gen cpu in for it to give an option for update bios. But i've also heard that with q-flash its possible to update bios even without any cpu or gpu in the mobo. Can you clarify this for me please?

[@haleemjouda9720]

Thanks What about MSI Z690 EDGE ? Is it good to pair with i7 13700k ?

[@minecraftmike5193]

I love your content, this is EXACTLY the kind of stuff I'm looking for.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Wonderful! So glad you are enjoying

[@stephenhood2948]

I built a 12600k system around a MSI Z790A Max Pro wifi board. Has everything I need, and I got a good price on it on sale. I haven't OCd the CPU yet, but I'm going to throw a bit more power at it and see what happens. Its under a 360 AIo so I should be able to get some decent speeds out of it.

[@ZeD-Games]

Im waiting for the 13400f to release, to build a new pc, should i go for b660 then?

[@tanviralam3924]

Dear Jason, Gigabyte Z690 AORUS PRO or MSI MAG Z690 TOMAHAWK - which would be a better choice for Core i513600k build ? Thanks !

[@guilladogui8259]

hello i have a question maybe you can give me some advise .. can i game on a creator board? im planning to upgrade my system i want to do music production and gaming . im planning to get the i7 13700k and a 4070 ti . i would live to have native thunderbolt to avoid any problems with my pcie card . but idk how much difference is between a creator board and gaming board on power phases needed to do overclocking things like that. and maybe you can recommend some boards for the 13700k specially z790

[@little_fluffy_clouds]

I can recommend the MSI Z690-A DDR4 board, it’s been 100% solid with my Core i7 13700 CPU. I use it as a server, so don’t need overclocking features. It has four M.2 slots which is awesome.

[@jselbie]

Great commentary on audio codec quality. Quick question. How do you identify the audio codec chipset if the motherboard specs just say "Realtek Audio CODEC". It never occurred to me that there could be quality differences between these chips. However, I only care about basic stereo from the line-out jack.

[@Michal_Bauer]

Thank you. I'm upgradeing from my Z68 Asus board, and was... I'm not sure I trust ASUS, but they are so absurdly expensive. Now I think I will look for other manufacturers. As for the features I search for MoBo with at least 5.1 sound, beacuse my desktop is also my main music/movie device.

[@seg9196]

My motherboard MSI MS 790 TOMAHAWK WI FI. I am very satisfied Thanks for the video. It's interesting to see your prices. Our price is higher.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Awesome! Thanks for sharing

[@manguerrero6220]

With this crazy prices we need your price to performance recommendations more than ever. Im eagerly waiting for your best gaming build with the new gpu generation. Ive made some shops with your recommendations in mind and im so happy and grateful for your help.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Thanks so much for the awesome feedback! And yes we will builds and builds lists coming over the next couple of weeks. And in the meantime we have the return of the Boost My Build series coming next week!