Beta Chef vs Alpha Chef vs Sigma Chef

It is very clear from their personalities on MasterChef, why Joe Bastianich is just a wine-maker, Gordon Ramsay is one of the most famous chefs on the planet, while Marco Pierre White is Gordon's teacher.

[@mynamesnotrick7498]

How generous of you to call Joe a chef

[@AwesomestGreatestMostestFunny]

No shit, he took over mommies restaurant.

[@ED-yy4te]

@@AwesomestGreatestMostestFunny That’s the origin of Joe Mama

[@TelieaSellers]

😂😂😂

[@scrimpmster]

Insult to Chef's really.

[@jaredrosenberg4965]

@@ED-yy4te I hate this comment so much for its utter perfection

[@mtjanglefins781]

Marco is the only chef who allowed Gordon Ramsey to make himself cry.

[@rleriche5044]

Marco merely provided the platform from which Gordon could made his own choice. He chose to cry.

[@thatboybear]

@@rleriche5044 I think that’s what he meant; it was just clunkily worded. “Marco allowed Gordon the space to cry” would be a cleaner construction.

[@jasondjunaidi6291]

I didn't allow Gordon Ramsay to cry, he allowed himself to cry........ That was his choice to allow himself to cry - Marco Pierre White (Possible response) 😂😂

[@commandertex4389]

Pierre never removes his look of superiority when judging

[@rgerber]

@@commandertex4389 he puts that Knorr Stock pot like nobody else

[@anneominous7172]

Marco is the only man alive that I genuinely fear I might accidentally call 'Dad' if I met him.

[@lillard831]

😂😂

[@WomanNextDoor]

I'd probably regress to my infancy and call him "Daddy".

[@Ace-is7ww]

@@WomanNextDoorhahahahah Exactly What I was about to say 😂😂😂😂😂

[@themessenger2948]

Stop.

[@Hadrexus]

Call him "Daddy" with a british accent

[@Validifyed]

Calling Joe a chef at all is a massive compliment.

[@blueturtlekhun]

And a massive overexaggeration

[@bluesclues3169]

And a massive lie

[@joachimpeersman8743]

I would prefer calling it a disgrace, but have it your way...

[@havefuntazarasu5367]

Joe is like prophet and gordon is like allah

[@Angtony]

alpha chef: mantain michelin star sigma chef: return michelin star to michelin cause it's just not worth it

[@markarmage3776]

Yeah, that's not what happened. It's a myth. Pierre White didn't return Michelin star because those stars were not worth it, Pierre White retired from being a chef entirely because the work was too stressful and took up a lot of time. He returned the stars because he didn't think that if he's no longer cooking can the restaurants retain the stars. Pierre White refused to act like Robuchon, Ducasse or even Ramsay, once you've gotten older, you can delegate to your sous chef to maintain the restaurants, Pierre White didn't want to do that. Ramsay no longer works as a chef anymore, Ramsay sous chef runs his restaurants for him.

[@tek512]

@@markarmage3776 Ramsay's sous chef might do the bulk of the work, but he's clearly very competent at it. Ramsay did a good job training the guy. Considering Marcus trained Gordon Ramsay, I have to wonder what it was that made him believe he hadn't done a good enough job training his sous chef for them to take over.

[@markarmage3776]

@@tek512 No, he trained his sous chef good enough, but that's contradictory to his belief to delegate. Chef means chief, you have to be directly working to be considered a chef. That's what Pierre White believed. He believes that people go to his restaurants to eat his food, the food that he cooks, not to eat his food cooked by somebody else.

[@markarmage3776]

@@propletrelooxretlitre5705 He did announced his retirement publicly. The restaurant is still there after he retired, he just no longer works there. And because he no longer works there, he believes that the restaurant no longer deserves the stars that he earned while he was there. That's why he returned the stars. Pierre White believe in the drastic ethical standard of a chef. It's not really good or bad but that's what he believed. If you go to a new 3 Michelin star restaurant, your food will be cooked by the head chef that earns those stars, only people with "culinary empire" delegates.

[@MrTVx99]

@@markarmage3776 He returned the stars because he realised that he was a better chef and knew cuisine better than the people who were giving him the stars. The stars are meaningless in this case. Everyone knows he's one of the best chefs in the world, he doesn't need stars to know that. The star also means that you've to run your restaurants a certain way to please the people who gave you the stars. No room for creativity or experiment, they expect you to be a robot who works that restaurant for the rest of your life. The stars also slowly progressively lost their meaning as well, bad quality restaurants would start getting stars, more and more restaurants would get 3 stars. The standards for the stars were just dropping.

[@Fishpasta4]

The Beta: A pretend chef who frankly doesn't know what he is on about, looks to the Alpha for guidance. The Alpha: An actual chef with experience who teaches as he criticizes, has no time for the Beta. The Sigma: Taught the Alpha and and is the nightmare of Alphas and Betas everywhere. Can project the entire rage of the Alpha with a single look.

[@jessenunez7205]

But who taught the alpha…my God who’s more powerful

[@janezkarlin9874]

@@jessenunez7205 Beyond the basics, I'd say they usually teach themselves I guess and find their own paths, solutions to problems, savants.

[@donald2005]

the beta desperately tries to be gordon for some reason. just be your own person man like damn it's cringe

[@lorencalfe6446]

and some ppl are all three 🤪

[@r.alexander9075]

@@lorencalfe6446 we usually call them schizos or mentals 🤪

[@Nick_C1997]

Joe: Peasant Gordon: King Marco: Emperor

[@RandomKissFan0815]

Marco: God

[@nbg1363]

All of them have vanity especially beta. Very bad trait of a human nature.

[@Piratesjunior]

⁠@@RandomKissFan0815No he is the whole universe

[@user-dt9wd2do1x]

​@@RandomKissFan0815dafuq is wrong with you man

[@hueble09]

Joe is more like an slave

[@TimothyBoersma99]

Marco had a great moment on Masterchef when he asked a contestant who had visibly underperformed: ''If you gave that to your mother ... would she be happy''. No shouting, no swearing, just a way of directly telling the contestant he underperformed and wanted to make him realise that.

[@TheRealKwisty]

The fact that Marco makes sure to remind the contestant that these things happen and not to give up, telling them that he himself made so many mistakes when starting off more than anyone else, should already tell you why he’s an Sigma.

[@TheRealKwisty]

He looks to empower and guide the contestants, not crush their dreams for no reason.

[@zellsicsvexramet1603]

Yeah, but also, if you're messing up in his kitchen, at his restaurant... he will light a fire under your ass so hot smoke will come out of your ears

[@ElkaPME]

He knows that extreme punishment for making non lethal mistakes won't create a new generation of chefs and the nexts

[@JoeSmith-dl9ok]

Beta, Signa, alpha, what is all this shit? I’ve never met someone more insecure that someone who calls themselves an “alpha male”. The scariest people I’ve met in my life don’t say shit, they just beat you senseless and move on

[@holasilencio2750]

Recuerdo una vez que Ramsey dijo que para poder lograr la receta del wellington la practice mas de 1000 veces, gente no sean ciegos! Esa es la realidad del verdadero chef, te lo digo por experiencia para lograr una receta tienes que practicarla muchas veces, fallar y te frustra! Pero cuando lo logras wow es otra cosa y los customers lo disfrutan...

[@MrTVx99]

Beta chef: Throws tantrum because he wants people to be scared. (They aren't) Alpha chef: When he gets angry and people are scared. Sigma chef: People are scared even when he is calm.

[@AdderTude]

Believe me, I'm much more terrified of a calm person giving criticism than a guy blowing up in my face. Shouting tries to convince you that you screwed up; the calm criticism makes you feel like you screwed up.

[@ringadingding7667]

the alpha and sigma also give constructive criticism, beta doesn't.

[@irvancrocs1753]

It could be applied to teacher or lecturer as well, sometimes the more calm they are the more pressure students get because they are motivated to not disappoint them and they also could learn better properly, i mean just a tought making a calm teacher get angry or disappointed on you is quite a terrifying thing indeed. Yelling and insult non-stop won't achieve anything especially when their duty is to give constructive criticism and lesson so people can learn better, instead people would get demotivated or simply irritated by their behavior. Gordon is actually quite balanced if i say. Despite he is rarely calm, he is at least still giving valid criticism and advices for people to improve unlike disingenuous Joe.

[@jackdaone6469]

Sigma Chef knows how to make use of the Stare of Disapproval, that’s for sure.

[@xilpes6254]

Sigma chef: Wants his fokin fish

[@Spider-man612]

Gordon gives constructive criticism that can actually help the cooks to learn and be a better chef. While Joe is like a 90s story mode video game’s NPC chef

[@MauiWowieOwie]

he can't give criticisms because he's not a real chef.

[@albertusaswin2012]

Gordon can be a real beast in kitchen once he has the power to do so. Marco projects the anger of a beast with just his glare while remains calm. As for Joe... his attitude is like a beast.

[@w1ndt]

Marco is so kind despite being a judge. He gives geniuine advice, doesn't yell at you and he has an aura of respect around him.

[@anneominous7172]

Because Marco is the only one of the three who has surpassed his ego. He just wants you to be a good cook, wants as many people as possible to enjoy good food.

[@spicenug]

NGL I'd watch a series of Marco and Gordon going on a road trip tasting foods from different restaurants and discussing it with each other.

[@dystopianfuture1165]

They probably still hate each other after what Gordon did to Marco.

[@farr0khb169]

@@dystopianfuture1165 what exactly did Gordon did?

[@dystopianfuture1165]

@@farr0khb169 In short he secretly brought cameras to his wedding, which Marco didn't like. He also framed him for something and blamed it on Marco. Ramsay was secretly jealous of Marco.

[@deathstruck159]

@@dystopianfuture1165 That feud you mentioned was really quite a while ago (around 2000), and they have already reconciled and are on friendly terms again, at least according to articles from 2022 and onwards.

[@blurryface5744]

@@deathstruck159 probably no more bad blood but I doubt they are talking.

[@PeterMasalski93]

Marco is the only man who made Gordon Ramsay cry.. My apologies, he made himself cry. I mean

[@kevint7288]

It was Ramsay's choice

[@rocketduck44]

@@kevint7288 No one made him do it *aggressively snorts Knorr stock cube*

[@vinchinzo594]

@@rocketduck44 I can't even lie dude. Those stock cubes changed my life. It doesn't help you make fine cuisine, but what it does, is help a guy who only ate TV dinner and ramen to learn how to cook. Marco Pierre White and his ridiculous Knorr memes actually helped me level up. It's cool.

[@yannkam2127]

There is that guy that made a cursed wellington too but...we don't talk about it.

[@CrizzyEyes]

@@vinchinzo594 Knorr is fucking awesome, don't let anyone tell you different. It's a staple of Mexican cuisine as well

[@samuelsalvatore4511]

i find it funny that joe is the living embodiment of how most people think a "strict professional" looks and acts like. you can watch any movie with this trope and it's literally just joe in a different body he's also pretty much what most people believe gordon ramsay is

[@melingdiab6613]

I've not heard of the "Strict Professional" trope until now, what's the main things to look out for?

[@HullsColby]

​@@melingdiab6613Someone who's in their high horse without any backing to their complaints, and just assumes everything negative about you, that's pretty much it.

[@testicuslargus6477]

Reminds me of the music teacher from Whiplash lol.

[@user-rmftwz-yrjsoq]

The businessman who’s got some work to do

[@nomadsland8322]

@@testicuslargus6477don’t insult Fletcher like that

[@arandombard1197]

Older Marco is like a cuddly grandpa compared to his younger self. It's like he went through some self-reflection and has decided that yelling wasn't working and that he needs to be more direct and precise with his feedback. Or he realized that he was 10 times more terrifying when he was quiet.

[@Daedricbob]

A friend of mine and his wife were eating in one of Marco's restaurants about 10 years ago. Someone on one of tables must have complained about the food or something because he came out of the kitchen and told them to piss off to McDonalds as they wouldn't know good food from crap anyway. He then announced to the restaurant they're be giving everyone a free dessert for the interruption to their evening. Genuine gigachad.

[@gustavopereira4924]

@THAT GUY He stared deep into Their soul until their neuros made so much connection out of pure fear that at some point They got the message

[@ryancommented9172]

These replies 🤣

[@rhys9336]

Marco retired in 1999

[@jelleluyten5017]

​@@rhys9336 don't you know each of his restaurants hires a lookalike to deal with snobs asking for the owner?

[@Bellabaddi]

A star from Marco must feel like an internal suivide

[@wiltmarlonelao]

Beta: throws a fit and nobody’s impressed or threatened Alpha: eloquently expresses disapproval and people feel remorseful, promising to do better next time. Sigma: quietness is directly correlated to how much fear you are feeling. The stare alone is enough to make you want to turn your life around.

[@cream1723]

Holy number of like so I ain't touching the like button and ruining that 777 likes

[@edencieslowski9310]

So a sigma is an awkward person who makes others uncomfortable. I see

[@petepie4228]

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[@cruzjacknife8699]

@@edencieslowski9310 A sigma is a distinguished gigachad who doesn't need to prove himself to anyone anymore, but still chooses to do so anyway, because 5 people taught by MPW will go on to teach 15 people Gordan teaches, he's of the highest esteem. He's reached master prestige. His game is over, this is his New Game+ on Hardcore. He's reached culinary enlightenment. He requires no verification.

[@kevinchandra1601]

@@edencieslowski9310 sigma is the same hierarchy as alpha but with different approach

[@justmarc2015]

Joe is the kind of guy who acts tough, but gets mad when you smile or laugh at him. If he spit out my food like that, I would not be able to contain my laughter. He would definitely get mad, too. I love people like him.

[@oddvoid]

A man who acts like a child, should be treated like a child.

[@TheWijasmara]

Yeah, comparing to Chef Marco and Gordon, Joe's commentary is the least feedback that you can take seriously lol

[@nicholasramirez9465]

If there was a video game where you had to cook against chefs, Marco would be the final boss. Gordon would be before Marco, and Joe would just be in the tutorial of the game.

[@devliegendehollandergvd5111]

Marco as Koopahhh in mario's 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@aysn2277]

And then Remy as a secret boss

[@jeffreyali1456]

Idk about Joe as a tutorial. Tutorials are actually helpful

[@oldaccount294]

@@jeffreyali1456Not tutorial but probably level 1's boss

[@whitewaltersbet4872]

Joe is the rag doll they use in practice mode

[@mash5271]

I've never understood the need for cruelty on these shows. Marco, even when he is brutally honest, keeps his composure.

[@M.Montgomeryz]

He wasn't always like that. Back in the day he was a wolf. Chef's do not pull their punches but from what I've seen. As they get older, the relax a bit and become more calm in their approach.

[@vinchinzo594]

I think deep down you might actually understand it perfectly. You just don't like it, and neither do I. Joe is the only one that is cruel in the culinary world. Others can be mean or aggressive on occasion, but he's legit cruel. He does it because he believes it's compelling, drives ratings, makes him 'like Gordon', and establishes some sort of culinary dominance. And perhaps even just your standard run-of-the-mill dominance too. Unfortunately, he's super wrong. It is compelling, but it compels people to be revolted. It does drive ratings, but it drives them down. It doesn't make him like Gordon, because Gordon is aggressive (at times, and other times quite endearing) not cruel. And it certainly doesn't establish culinary dominance. It establishes the kind of dominance where your boss comes into the office and threatens to just straight up fire the bottom 10% of performers this quarter, without giving any metric for "performance", you just have to figure it out. Then when you get fired, he insults you, makes a huge show of you leaving, and laughs at you. Thus, NOBODY except Joe's mother likes Joe. Try to find one comment on the entire internet praising his personality.

[@Tyrant175]

He had his fair share of being a pain in the ass with his cooks. He’s an old timer now, everybody knows him and respects him, he’s smart enough to know that there ia nothing left to prove and his nerves are now more valuable than ever. Why do you think he did the whole knorr stock pot promotion years ago? He doesn’t give a fuck about what people think anymore.

[@AtomicGT55]

People eat (pun intended) that shit up. Drama and conflict is what draws people to these shows, far more so than cooking or the competitive aspects. That's just the unfortunate reality of American Reality TV (though I won't lie, it can be sort of entertaining when genuine).

[@johnprager662]

It's all for ratings. Gordon has made a career out of being le angry english chef and he definitely plays it up for the cameras because reality tv is his main job now

[@PhantomFilmAustralia]

What makes Marco the best is that he achieved his "3-Michelin Stars" and "5-Red Forks & Knives"- the pinnacle of culinary excellence, and then just walked away. He said that he had achieved the highest level of distinction, yet didn't want to waste his life in maintaining that level, and further, to be judged by people who know less about the culinary industry than he. Boss Level->MAX

[@bbch088]

Exactly. He walked away at his peak and was dedicated to his craft. Chef Ramsay seems a master of culinary business though as a testament to his empire. Both are great chefs, I dnt care about the other one with bad manners 😂

[@libfit9068]

he’s also known as the first celebrity chef. And the first British chef to earn 3 michelin stars and the youngest at that point.

[@Arondeight]

The best line I heard: "Marco, you're being judged by those who know less about food than you."

[@NoxiousRob]

He talked about how winning the Michelin stars meant he had to be on the attack, he had to differentiate himself from other chefs. Then when he had won his 3 stars, it became more about defence, protecting those 3 stars, and he didn't want to spend the rest of his career trying to protect his 3 stars, so he walked away.

[@Arondeight]

@A7 fold kzbin.info/www/bejne/i17bdHypqal1l6s 46:45.

[@firedell1031]

Marco is a chef because he absolutely loves food, and wants people to be able to create the best food they possibly can. He doesn't care about critics or anything like that.

[@brandocalrissian3294]

The difference is that Marco is 100% comfortable and confident in who he is as a person and chef. Most people can't say that just as a person.

[@jpfizzle1]

betas and alpha’s will insult you directly but Marco will calmly ask you to explain yourself, forcing you to reflect and then hate yourself more than anyone else could ever hate you, and that’s terrifying

[@ikitclaw4852]

the "beta" will bark a lot like an annoying sh*t, the "alpha" might actually bite you, but the "sigma" will stick a knife right there where it hurts the most

[@literallyhuman5990]

​@@ikitclaw4852 For the knife, It's Crocodile Dundee's knife

[@HorseyWorsey]

@@ikitclaw4852 No, the Sigma Chef will ask firmly and politely to take the knife and stab yourself and you'll agree quickly and thoroughly.

[@code066funkinbird3]

​@@ikitclaw4852beta are like those lgtb people probably

[@code066funkinbird3]

I mean for someone like Gordon ramsay Not all positive words are come from a sweet heart tone sometimes even louder than that

[@nousnous4361]

As a trained London chef who had Marco as a guest lecturer I can confirm that look of superiority is always locked in... And he is unexpectedly hilarious

[@beaucaspar3990]

How did you end up becoming a chef? How long did it take you to become a professional chef? And was being a chef something you’ve wanted to do as a career since you were in high school?

[@nousnous4361]

@@beaucaspar3990 studied a professional chef diploma at Westminster Kingsway College in Victoria, London. Course was 3 years, pretty tough but well rounded ( studied classic cookery /pastry/front of house/food science) and great connections with the industry lots of us went on to work at The Savoy, The Ivy, Michelin star establishments or start our own things. I ended up loving the food science studies, left chef land behind and became a dietitian 😂

[@beaucaspar3990]

@@nousnous4361 A dietitian, that’s a pretty good job. That sounds like a pretty exclusive college you studied at, was it really expensive to go there? And how long was you a professional chef before you left and became a dietitian?

[@nousnous4361]

@@beaucaspar3990 that particular diploma course was more exclusive than the college itself oddly enough. In the UK you're expected to continue some form of education up to 18 yes old so the course allowed anyone aged 19 and under to enrol for free. If you were 20+ then you had to pay pretty hefty fees. Luckily I was 18! However you did have to pay for chef whites uniforms, knife kit, books etc. Literally a chef for 6 months and thought nahhh I miss using my brain lol

[@septian_prada_saputra]

Love to follow, Chef Marco how to chop onion. 🤣

[@phoeni3902]

You're anxious about making a mistake with Gordon, because of how much you fear him But you're terrified to make a mistake with Marco, because of how much you wish to be like him

[@Sam-Pound]

And you're absolutely mortified to make a mistake in the same room as Joe because I dunno.

[@manirai1003]

Marco can teach cooking to anyone. He doesn't just complains. On the process, he ensures people understand what went wrong and what they should have done. Fabulous personality... kudos

[@PhantomSavage]

Marco also grew up in old style European kitchens where the head chef could practically beat and berate out-of-line kitchen workers like slaves, so the fact Marco manages to maintain such calmness in the face of utter stupidity is a real testament to his class.

[@spencerstevens2175]

There is a reason they're known for the best kind of food

[@scarfchomp7203]

Apparently he wasnt always this way lol. He seems to have mellowed out in his later years

[@moosesnWoop]

French. Both him and Gordon trained under the French in France, so they probably learnt the hard way. You can see discipline and major difference between Marco and Gordon

[@Immigrantlovesamerica]

Hold on, there is a difference between working a professional kitchen and being in a TV show with amateurs. Marco knows who he is talking to and what standards to expect.

[@Dimrim1]

He's calmed down alot, reflected etc, he used to be fucking insane

[@schweitzer-man6227]

Joe's reactions a lot of times seem like he's playing it up, like he's hoping a producer will notice him and say, "He'd be a great host for a reality series" and then he'd be able to escape under Gordon's shadow

[@runnre]

It'll never happen. The whole beta male thing might be a joke but he is in fact the beta chef for real, I hope he only acts like this on TV.

[@jaredrosenberg4965]

@@runnre his net worth is $15M give or take….i think Joe is doing alright You guys actually think the actors get Final Cut on their characters on Masterchef? Fox has producers and those producers are really experienced at selling characters.

[@Tyronebigggums]

@@runnre u dont know a beta when u see one lol

[@runnre]

@@Tyronebigggums I'm looking at you. 🙂

[@zapdosshish3572]

In MasterChef Italy, Joe was actually pretty funny and interesting as a judge, Sorry for my pour english

[@davemustang8173]

Gordon is the professional Marco is the human And Joe is the "critic"

[@arcuz7862]

Joe is ...there.

[@Vaquix000]

@@arcuz7862 Marco's the human? He seems the most professional out of all of them, Gordon's more "the human" since he shouts too much

[@spencerstevens2175]

"Gordon made himself cry"- sigma chef

[@devliegendehollandergvd5111]

Spoken as a legend 🤣👍🏼✨

[@ArcaneMaiden]

I can see Gordon becoming a sigma in a few years. I can see Pierre becoming a legend in his passing. I can see Joe Mama.

[@LilC1deep]

best comment

[@leoyang1787]

Lol

[@josephleonard6695]

lmaooo perfection and Joe being a mama's boy makes this all the more funnier 🤣

[@ArcaneMaiden]

@@josephleonard6695 😉

[@p0p765]

Joe Baldma

[@camerongrondzki2716]

Joe is the guy who likes to talk smart and be an ass Gordon is passionate and most goes after people who aren't passionate any or making basic mistakes at such a high level Marco is just a legend

[@kokhueing9533]

U mean "smart aleck" for Joe's case

[@user-wd3hw1dt9r]

Your words remind me of him. Is he the Guardiola of the catering industry?😂

[@crk190]

Joe: ass Gordon: balls Marco: wants fuckin fish 🐟🐠

[@PG-20]

@@user-wd3hw1dt9rat least Pep can lead a team to a treble

[@couththememer]

@@crk190💀

[@FutureAbe]

“Gets so angry, forgets he’s not on Hell’s Kitchen” lmao my head hurts from laughing

[@paragonflash8937]

One thing i love about Marco is that before a restraunt take over challenge. He stops everyone before it stops and hypes everyone up. He gives a speech and reminds them the finish line and whats at the end. He tells them if you want it fight and give me your best. He hypes everyone and gives them motivation.

[@arrwu7278]

"I want four king fish I want four king fish" 😂

[@TheTraxxxmaster]

Thats how I answering the phone from now on

[@AlexG1020]

Marco is such a meme I love it lmao

[@vinchinzo594]

@@TheTraxxxmaster Bro your comment just made me laugh like a literal goblin. Please answer the phone this way at least once. Do it for your new pal Vinchinzo from the internet.

[@TheTraxxxmaster]

@@vinchinzo594 did it to my mom and she thought I was retarded

[@alio29nov]

LMFAO at that, but you know if you were there you'd be shiting bricks 😆

[@haroonassaf8500]

Gordon and Marco: Craps on your life, but gives you criticism in order to make you a better chef and improve your skills Joe: Craps on your life...thats it really

[@CinnamonFudge2229]

What Marco and Gordon has in common is that they want the best out of you. Even if you fail, so long as you have tried with your whole being, you have a chance

[@areyousureaboutthat3457]

@@CinnamonFudge2229 tho they quite different when they execute the criticism 🤣

[@Crypted542]

@@areyousureaboutthat3457 I'd rather get a brutal criticism from gordon and marco than the balding dude who obviously looks like he doesn't know what it is to be a masterchef.

[@do_not_at_me_bro]

​@@Crypted542 Balded? More like malded 😂

[@winfrelo2232]

I love how the font goes italic from regular when it's marco 😂

[@Mr.Bones1983]

Joe is a chef in the same way that Steven Segal is a martial artist.

[@nick9872-]

Marco’s presence makes me feel calm yet fearful, Gordon makes me feel obedient yet dominant, and Joe well, he’s just there.

[@peteypete9357]

Joe's presence would have me trying my hardest to hold back smirks and all sorts of cues to make it seem like Im taking him seriously. This is what giving power to a pretentious beta does for us all, everybody.

[@peryutubanduniawi]

joe is the person who ask why do u late to school and then says no excuse

[@BeegBWolf]

Joe is like a Karen that just there to complain and say shit 😂

[@uselessdegenerate7565]

Ramsey makes you feel dominant??

[@JPJH]

Joe just needs someone to punch him in the face when he's cocky...

[@AmirPrinceling]

I will never forget the fact Marco made Gordon cry when Gordon was still under his tutelage, that man is truly terrifying.

[@namemcnamerton4249]

Gordon chose to cry.

[@peanutgallery5427]

​@@namemcnamerton4249then he taught him well

[@filledwithvariousknowledge2747]

@@peanutgallery5427Marco somehow convinced Gordon to come back after throwing pots and pans when Gordon jumped the gun and made the sauces that Marco was supposed to make when Gordon then afterwards ran out crying seemly quit after throwing off the apron

[@JoshuaPagan]

@@namemcnamerton4249 Just what I was about to comment, 😂😂😂

[@milanek1527]

​@@namemcnamerton4249by assaulting him

[@Octobris]

2:05 * long pause * what is it? My gosh the way he said it was palpable.

[@Nitro.Z74]

0:04 he broke her completely, her eyes says it all I feel bad for her

[@LIMuscleBlackdevil]

Marco is the man, and the best mentor of the 3 by far. He's the only one that doesn't completely lose his cool and scream out personal insults at people. Most of what I've seen with him, his criticism is always constructive.

[@FlyingSaucerEyez]

to be fair Gordon Ramsay turns it up a few notches for the cameras. a good percentage of it is tv personality.

[@arishemthejudge6780]

Gordon Ramsay does it for the TV, he is one of the best tv personalities out there.

[@MichaelClark-uw7ex]

You should have seen him in his younger days. Check out "Yes Marco"

[@buffalo.blackk]

Wrong analysis. The best “mentor”, which is the criteria you established, is the one who is flexible and can lose his cool and use personal insults in the guys that need it and give calm criticism when needed. He’s adaptable and has deep human understanding.

[@antithoughtpolice7497]

Gordon mentors kids, and is more calm to people without egos. Any adult with an ego and no skills better don't stand a chance.

[@msw0322]

Haha I don't think Joe even counts as a beta since he's not even a chef.

[@leonhardtjoestar6357]

better if he would be called an idiot sandwhich for his comments and actions (you can add more deeper to the sandwhich part)

[@DerpySnek]

​@@leonhardtjoestar6357Add BK Foot Lettuce

[@leonhardtjoestar6357]

@@DerpySnek lol

[@oi6915]

He's probably never touched an oven in his life

[@DerpySnek]

@oi6915 Nahh, He probably can't even use a microwave right

[@bigfudge2031]

Marco is the goat, just the aura he gives off is intimidating, not because he is scary, but because he knows more about your own cooking than you do.

[@Paterleano]

Marco made Gordon Ramsay cry like a girl. He is the real boss.

[@KARMA_Camilla]

One thing worth mentioning here is that the US version of MasterChef (where Joe and Gordon are judges/hosts) is made in a much more overly dramatic way, as the US versions of shows usually are. They tend to dial the drama up a few notches. So the way the judges behave is very much a part of that. The Australian MasterChef (the superior version if you ask me) where Marco has been a guest judge several times, is much more 'relaxed' and undramatic so the behavior of the judges reflects that.

[@riajuu5046]

,

[@christopherstein2024]

Caveman TV.

[@paulgerhardt6499]

Yes I agree Australian master Chef is a totally different show and much better about the cooking not drama

[@pensandshakers]

Same reason I like a lot of Gordon's UK versions of shows, tbh. The American ones are fun, but they're also such a headache and I feel like I learn more with the other version.

[@moonlight_sparkle6659]

I'm glad we're all in agreeance that MasterChef Australia is the better show. I HATE the US version, only because it relies more on drama than cooking, whereas with MasterChef Australia you get great cooks with great advice who actually give constructive criticism but don't degrade their contestants. That's honestly why I don't like American reality tv because we tend to focus in on drama, crappy sound effects and bizarre editing that I'm not gonna lie, makes me dizzy sometimes, where as MasterChef Australia feels more natural and chill. Even Kitchen Nightmares UK I enjoy more than the US version BECAUSE it focuses more on the relationships between Gordon and the staff and sometimes the staff with each other but it's not at a point to where it feels overdramatized. The lack of music also makes the show that much more enjoyable, it feels like you're with them AT THAT MOMENT.

[@dnielzcx5490]

beta joe: *throws a tantrum here and there* alpha chef: *swears youre a donut* sigma chef: *a walking fish*

[@dsadasdasasddasasdads8935]

You sir, are a fish.

[@Cataclyscerator]

I love all the description you made specifically for them honestly😂 Every single description make me laugh

[@lutrueson9000]

Marco is such a good mentor and master of his craft that he seldom shows he is upset.

[@Gtransformerfan03]

I find it interesting how Marco trained Gordon and yet their styles of “intimidation” I guess are entirely different, Gordon gets loud and the room rumbles, but Marco just looks up with a certain look and time itself begins to tremble

[@GodlyDra]

That’s because Marco mellowed out and left the Michelin star scene. He was basically Gordon but scarier in his early years. Give it time and Gordon might become similar.

[@N0noy1989]

Marco used to throw pots and pans when he was teaching Gordon. That's where Gordon got it.

[@rykehuss3435]

@@N0noy1989 Yep, people dont have a clue about what it was like, and still is, in many Michelin kitchens. Back in the old days cooks got actually physically beaten by chefs for screwing up. Not screaming in their face, they got punched in the noggins or stomach for fucking up. And thankfully that shit is pretty much over nowadays. That is a horrible way of leadership, its not how you get the best out of people. You want them to respect and admire you, not fear you. Fear screws shit up way more than anything else

[@Djdnr-bu3rd]

Marco made Gordon Ramsey cry (actually true btw)

[@GodlyDra]

@@Djdnr-bu3rd No, Gordon made himself cry, it was his choice to cry.

[@then00brathalos]

when gordon ramsay commands presence, marco radiates it. Gordon makes you truly know you fucked up when he melts down, Marco simply just raises his head and you knew, you fucked up real bad.

[@xandr13]

You know it's bad when he's chopping an onion into oblivion while staring you down.

[@fredrickpoggi5493]

Marco calmy dismantles you with body language and calm tones and thats worse than getting yelled at.

[@MikePowerlifter]

Im no psychologist, but the calm people are the ones who you should be the most afraid of.

[@mitsurikanroji9548]

joe tries to be gordon, gordon tries to be marco

[@megabladechronicles962]

I like how the one time in this video Marco is genuinely angry, he doesn’t make a big scene out of it. He makes a joke and orders the kitchen to fix the problem instead of smashing plates and throwing food

[@rykehuss3435]

"Did they just swam off, did they"

[@yujiruffhanma3095]

Marco will always be the greatest. There isn't a shred of pretense in his persona.

[@retrowave9536]

Did you know? Only Marco is a chef the other 2 didn't go to culinary school and they're not certified on paper 📜

[@Iceican]

@@retrowave9536 you don’t need school to be a chef, Gordon has trained under various highly regarded French chefs. He is a chef it’s a position that doesn’t require a degree.

[@retrowave9536]

@@Iceican I don't care who he trains with he's not chef on paper that's like a kid going to the police academy pre training to be a cop but not a cop or jrotc acting like a soldier but not a soldier 🪖 Ramsey's in the same boat

[@ginsoxx92]

@@retrowave9536 Your comparisons are bad, the most accurate thing to say will be "a soldier trained by the biggest rank generals". The thing is technically he isn't a chef, but he has Michelin stars, with that I mean that he is more than prepared to critize people

[@retrowave9536]

@@ginsoxx92 he has no right to criticize anyone where this man can't even make scrambled eggs and at the end of the day he doesn't have that paper so you're trying to justify somebody that isn't a chef he's just a TV guy with a personality nothing more

[@paris9332]

Marco is the best! He genuinely brings the best out of any person he mentors. A true master..

[@europeanshaman]

That advice of the mistakes in the pantry Marco gave the cook are priceless.

[@VolkovVelikan]

Joe: The bully Gordon: the teacher Marco: the mentor

[@wisnumiku5156]

Nah that's it

[@AdderTude]

That hard stare by Marco as he simply asks "What is it?" is enough to give any contestant dread at the incoming criticism.

[@ThAmCh]

If Marco, after looking at your dish asks you "What is it?" then the right answer to give is "I don't know" ;)

[@CinnamonFudge2229]

One of the contestants was freaking out simply from him being there. The man's got a presence THAT powerful

[@Brahim0801]

Marco leaves no room for denial, he asks you the questions you usually ask yourself, you'd feel like he read your mind, and at that point you'll only be able to either tell the truth, or lie to YOURSELF, not to him.

[@devliegendehollandergvd5111]

Marco is the legend of all times ✨💪🏼 Even though he criticises the chefs he's also inspiring and humble to them to become even greater whilst the other just like to shout and put them down. That's what makes Marco the more confident and stronger chef 👍🏼. And make Gordon cry of course 🤣🤣🤣

[@bluesentaiproductions]

Love the respect Marco gets, I enjoy Ramsey as a TV personality, but you can tell Marco has more empathy for the cuisine than for those who make the dish. He almost laments over failed dishes as one does when giving a eulogy for a wrongful death.

[@kurtpunchesthings2411]

Yea he has such high standards for food he sees a failed dish as an unfortunate event knowing this food could have been so much more

[@asahibunni7426]

Gordon def has a professional yet stern approach to cooking and chef conduct. Sure he’s emotional but he’s passionate about his work

[@christopherstein2024]

He makes one fucked up grilled cheese.

[@user-no8tb8xn4d]

@@christopherstein2024 Didn't asked

[@christopherstein2024]

@@user-no8tb8xn4d *ask.

[@vdd1001]

​@@christopherstein2024super simple dishes aren't his thing honestly. But he's just incredible at making very elaborate gourmet dishes. It's like when you correctly responding to the difficult question of the test and fail the easy one

[@christopherstein2024]

@@vdd1001 Yeah and that never happens.

[@yeetboiwhatyesplease2095]

Good people will always give constructive criticism without insults, unless said person is being insulted. You don’t just insult someone and expect them to get better. You offer them advice, know-how, and they use it to improve their dishes.

[@ayhamshaheed7740]

‘What is it?’ Marco asked *calmly*

[@Scarab1233]

In polish Masterchef, while MPW was a special guest, he was so wholesome. Judging a lot, but also teaching with no anger. And he also learnt a thing or two while being there. Trully a man who follows a rule: a true master is an eternal student.

[@rykehuss3435]

The masters in any field would never claim to be masters, they would claim to be clueless because there is so much still to learn. The more you learn about a subject, the more you learn about how much you dont know.

[@michaelnazar9358]

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[@darkpinkgirl6684]

@@rykehuss3435 yeah but White isn't calling himself a master, buddy, everyone else is

[@rykehuss3435]

@@darkpinkgirl6684 I've never heard Gordon call himself a master

[@kazumajay]

Marco isn't a sigma chef. He's THE CHEF

[@ZonnexNecton]

“What is this?” Marco said calmly, peering into the apprentices souls deeper casually.

[@ICWEINER4114]

Beta: scared of fire Alpha: puts out fires Sigma: wants 4 kingfish

[@tek512]

Joe isn't even really a chef. He was born into money, and he's been riding it ever since.

[@tahmkench118]

His mother's a really good chef so I kinda expected him to be a good chef too

[@jamesbrockman6221]

@@tahmkench118 he wouldn’t be a if it wasn’t for her and honestly the guy is a prick

[@Crypted542]

@@tahmkench118 Well he cannot eat someone else's shadow can he?

[@M.Montgomeryz]

Joe isn't a chef. He's a bully with no way to help. Also, there's a great clip of a chef who makes a sausage roll with an Italian twist. Search up "Gordon Ramsay eats the perfect sausage roll". Gordon absolutely loves it and Joe says and I quote "I don't know, I've never even heard of a sausage roll until about 5 minutes ago". The two actual chefs loved it but his goofy ass is just full of it.

[@ivnislykun]

or God FORBID someone/something somehow "insults" his Italian heritage. Like, shut up bro

[@JPSimen]

He is a Successful restaurant manager. Joe is nothing more.

[@M.Montgomeryz]

@@ivnislykun He gets so butthurt it's hilarious. He's like a child throwing a temper tantrum.

[@M.Montgomeryz]

@@JPSimen you said it! all he can do is open a restaurant

[@anon_private_user]

God forbit anyone disagree with Gordon Ramsey. Get of his sausage roll bro 💀

[@amarieoflothlorien]

Marco Pierre White just needs to look at people, No voice raised no swearing, just a look and you know you are screwed.

[@omerzalman-fe2fr]

the way that marco talks to the cooks is like a head of school about to expel a student and the student knows what he has done

[@neilvarghese6115]

Marco was the man. A real complex genius

[@rleriche5044]

still is

[@atheneus]

Is

[@JPSimen]

He still is alive making Ramsey cry.

[@flintlockwoodhd7932]

@@JPSimen he made himself cry

[@f-log8718]

forgot to mention Marco and Gordon are actually out here to help people as well! Love them both and it takes me 5 mins to make instant noodles

[@cannonieh4469]

That 'I want fookin' at the end cracked me up

[@SuperVideoman2012]

You know when she said:" it has evolved slightly" gordon wouldve come in with the: "ofc it has evolved its still half alive" at 2:20

[@thatboybear]

Joe be looking at Gordon like “Did I get him? I got him, right? Because that’s how we big boys do it, isn’t it. Yeah.”

[@leothedaft960]

This is great 😂

[@alita4]

1:32 "bananas? I put strawberry in my duck"hahhahha

[@SuperAfroMac]

“Even the guard ignores the beta chef”

[@DovahVokuna]

Joe wants to act like Gordon. Much respect for Gordon and Marco. Both legends. Also the french guy that tought Marco everything. Forgot his name. But man, what a teacher must have been.

[@35PHaaton]

The thing with Marco is that he is a good teacher, which a lot of head chefs lacks. Just look at the names he has produced.

[@speedy9769]

Sleep paralysis but all you hear is marco asking for four kingfish

[@ginjaedgy49]

truly terrifying

[@MK_ULTRA420]

I'm not worried because I'm not a chef. My sleep paralysis demon is Sam Hyde in a black trenchcoat and fedora and I'm sure he could 1v1 Marco at Duel Arena.

[@exquisitemeat5845]

"Oscar tier acting" kills me everytime

[@haxxmc]

Really gotta put Marco and Joe together as judges and watch the chaos unfold.

[@lukewithann7256]

1:59 that look had the hair on my back standing up and he wasn't even judging my food xD

[@sundayznostalgianightz6510]

3:11 got me 🤣🤣🤣

[@austintgod9621]

"Its still moving" 😂

[@skeetervalentine2471]

Joe isn’t even a chef.

[@jacknapyer]

His mommy has an awesome show though. I love lydia bastianich (sp)

[@beasthunt]

There's simply not enough footage of Marco. He's amazing.

[@detonnate]

Marco is the king the master and the best. Not only because of what he has achieved but also because of the person he is. He leads and inspires chefs to be more then they realise they can be

[@KROGANLovesKittensAndPuppies]

I usually enter Michelin Star restaurants shouting "I WANT FOUR KINGFISH! I WANT FOUR KINGFISH!" To establish dominance with the other wealthy and classy patrons.

[@trietlam1438]

Marco does not need to swear to get his point across. He doesn’t need big words or an essay. He looks and he SPEAKS

[@Its_Cannon]

Marco Pierre White is a God father of cooking. He’s gonna be hard, but he’s gonna be fair. He’s been through all the cycles of arrogance, humbleness, and now he’s moved past all of it and is a pinnacle in the chef community. Comparing him to the beta chef, wouldn’t work. The only time he would be in Marcos kitchen, would be to eat.

[@SNEEDANDBREED]

Marco is like some kind of otherworldy food wizard with the patience approaching even God Himself.

[@do_not_at_me_bro]

"Patience that of a stone, the will of stars"

[@DethMunkee1990]

Putting joe even in the same conversation as Ramsay and MPW is hilarious

[@nothingtosee314]

Joe: Demands respect while earning none.