LIGHTFOX Battles Snack Box Micro in All-Button Controller Rumble!

[@sethsez]

I've had Speedy's Pocket Voltex V5 controller for a while and the thing has been an absolute trooper, with an incredibly durable case and easily repairable parts (hey, sometimes you really smash the hell out of those keys). I've been looking forward to this for a while and I'm glad to see his entry into fight game controllers is just as solid as his rhythm games one.

[@HushMySweet1]

Awesome! Glad you've had good experiences with the other one. Thanks for watching and weighing in!

[@BurpinElmo]

That digital screen art alongside your controller art. Chefs kiss. Bravo, good sir.

[@HushMySweet1]

Thanks! This one was a lot of fun to theme!

[@8-bitwhale]

i love the case also the slim jim art got me off guard honestly it made my day TwT

[@HushMySweet1]

OOOH YEAHH!!

[@pingy717]

i got one of these a while ago as my first leverless and when ive been able to use it its been great (recovering from hand overuse injuries so i can only count the times ive used it on one hand)

[@HushMySweet1]

Nice! Glad to hear the controller has been positive for you. Thanks for watching!

[@DimzNoms]

Awesome! I was looking at this, and I am so glad that you did a video on it!

[@HushMySweet1]

Great! Glad you found it useful!

[@The_Brenton]

This is an awesome fight pad. So cool

[@HushMySweet1]

I enjoyed it too! Thank you for watching, dude!

[@Zoddo]

I am waiting for a Levereless Controller that supports Lekker Style Switches like in the Wooting Keyboard. So, you can configure your actuation and reset point 100% yourself.

[@HushMySweet1]

Yeah, I think it will go that way here within a couple of years. I actually think Rectangle Corner was talking about something like that in one of their future iterations, but IDK. Still, you can kind of feel it coming down the road. Thanks for watching!

[@astrovewlix]

Jasen’s Customs has Hall effect switch buttons coming soon

[@vthegrigori9137]

That aluminum, tho... This thing looks slick.

[@HushMySweet1]

Right? All contoured and such on the inside too. Very nice. Thanks for watching!

[@TunieTuesday]

the machoman art is amazing. i wish i could get someting like that for my haute42 s16

[@HushMySweet1]

I found a couple Macho Man Slim Jim images I liked, and then just contacted "hugs_n_giggles" on Twitter. His handle is in the vid description. Then, I just told him to align the OLED screen with his hat text and he knocked out a couple samples within a few days. All priced very reasonably too. He could easily do something similar for an S16 if this strikes your fancy. Thank you for watching, dude!

[@anthonyrobertson419]

I will buy that sucker from you in a heartbeat DIG IT

[@HushMySweet1]

lol, I only know how to acquire. Lookin' all like Smaug perched atop a mountain of controllers...

[@zebr]

still prefer my snack box! pretty cool to have an alternative though even if it needs a dongle.

[@HushMySweet1]

What about the Snack Box Micro is more appealing in your eyes? And what about factoring in the price? (At the end of the day, everything is all just personal preference, but I'm genuinely curious to hear your take.) Thank you for watching and engaging!

[@zebr]

@@HushMySweet1 For sure just preference! Not sure how to explain it, but I like how it feels and I like the build quality of the snackbox and also I don't like to change controllers often even if it were VERY similar. Thanks for making the awesome videos. Your videos is what got me into getting a leverless!

[@zebr]

oh forgot to mention the price - I am okay with investing in something if I am going to get the mileage out of it - and boy have I gotten the mileage out of it. I am mainly a PC player, but it's good to know I am safe to take this to a local to play on a PS5 since it's build in and I don't have to worry about a dongle. That part really is worth a lot to me even if it's minor in a way.

[@SoundToxin]

@@zebr The nice thing about GP2040-CE's dongle approach is that it uses an extra port, it doesn't go in between the console and controller. Meaning someone can pass you the end of a USB-C cable that's already plugged into the console and you can just plug in and go. You don't need to redo everything with an adapter in the middle like you would with a Brook adapter. You can also leave the dongle in all the time and it doesn't mess up normal PC usage. It doesn't make it show up like a PS5 controller on your PC or anything weird even. The MagicBoots at least is super small. If these controllers were a little thicker you could just store the dongle on the inside somewhere, as we've seen with some arcade stick builds on this channel.

[@Tanookz]

Looks very cool, aluminum build is awesome, but not a fan of the button spacing. Should have used the larger 28mm caps all around.

[@HushMySweet1]

I think this one is more geared as the Speedy Labs take on a more premium Micro and I think the JFA caps are 21mm in diameter, so SL may have chosen to keep it similar to that. But yeah, if they ever increased the size of the footprint to something like Haute42 T16 or even a Micro XL, then they could probably tailor that one toward larger caps to good effect. Thank you for watching!

[@RetroAnarchist]

Speedypotato released the same product (better form factor and portability imo) and includes a decent carry case for almost 200$ less than razer and its built like a tank. Even with the playstation dongle its still 150$ cheaper

[@HushMySweet1]

Yeah, this thing goes hard. I feel like it's a cross between the Kitsune and the Micro, but at a much cheaper price point. Really solid device that punches above its weight in terms of value.

[@3rdworldgwaming467]

It's decent as a controller.....the Randy savage artwork helped it's appeal alot to me personally. On a side note...whenever I see artwork for controllers like these I always wonder if the future is going to have button layouts on LED screen surfaces like that of phones/tv's/tabs....the freedom in terms of customising ones layout surface would be limitless then...one can only hope to see this come to fruition in the near future I guess. I hope I get to see it if it happens

[@HushMySweet1]

Yeah, the LED button layout is a cool idea. It would be great for customization, but I think a lot of people would miss the tactile sensation of pressing the button and feeling it click and return, or whatever. I looked at a really interesting controller that JAMSTA built a long time back called the Locus Solus. It used sensors to trigger the inputs, so was really wild and novel. But there was no finger feedback when it came to a press, so it was an interesting experience to play on. Check out that vid and let me know what you think. Thanks for watching!

[@3rdworldgwaming467]

@@HushMySweet1 Oh no...u misunderstood me. I did not mean the buttons. I meant only for the front surface area to be made of LED with the accommodation of holes so that tactile buttons are still used....cos ur 100% right about the appeal of pressing the buttons. I'm definitely gonna check out the JAMSTA built u suggested, thanks. Take care & best of luck

[@HushMySweet1]

@@3rdworldgwaming467 Ah, I gotcha!

[@shibamaycry4585]

This is nice and i absolutely love the looks of it, but by chance does this have smaller buttons than the snackbox micro? Looks v similar to a flatbox ultra

[@HushMySweet1]

It does, but only slightly. I think these ones (all but the jump function) were 20 mm. And then I believe the Micro ones are 21 mm in diameter. So, pretty comparable all things considered.

[@vant3157]

I would like to buy it, but does it have neutral on the buttons? left + right = Neutral Up + down = neutral

[@HushMySweet1]

There are several different SOCD cleaning modes out of the box. Like most of these GP2040-CE based devices, they come with an instruction manual, and it outlines several options. You just have to press certain button combinations on start up. Good luck!

[@SpeedyPotato_]

Yep, and there is a dedicated slider if you ever want to switch the socd mode!

[@ManiaticoZX]

Hey! What you do if you just want to make your old fight stick compatible with current gen consoles?? Thank you for another great video!

[@HushMySweet1]

Hey, so it depends on what current gen consoles you're talking about. Brook has several Wingman converters, so you can find the one most appropriate for your current system of choice (like the Xbox and PS5 ones are different). Good luck, and thank you for watching!

[@SoundToxin]

@@HushMySweet1 I think a GP2040-CE Advanced Breakout Board w/ USB Passthrough + MagicBoots for PS5 would also do the trick, right? Can get one on Etsy. If the old stick has a similar encoder board inside and you swap the wiring over. Have not tried it myself, though.

[@oxfordyazuka3739]

I hate my micro it isn't flat on the bottom...doesn't sit well on my desk

[@HushMySweet1]

That's unfortunate. This one does sit flat if you're looking for something else. Thanks for watching!

[@mustang12345]

let's be honest, Junkfood did a great job having at the time a leverless that small. But now their products are outdated and overpriced (especially if you're not in the US).

[@HushMySweet1]

Yeah, I get what you're saying. I hope JFA has some fun products in development to keep pace and innovate in 2024 all over again! Fingers crossed! Thanks for watching!

[@mustang12345]

@@HushMySweet1 yes innovation seems to be the route they should take, or cutting the price of their products (but that not seem to be realistic for them?). In any case, really like your videos, your my reference to keep up with all the new products and brands :).

[@HushMySweet1]

@@mustang12345 🙏🙏 Thanks for the very nice comment! Glad you dig the content!

[@KetsubanSolo]

I had this convo with my friend, but he ultimately went with the Snackbox because he didn't want to mess around with an online configurator tool. I'm a huge fan of GP2040-CE but I can imagine the steps needed to get into the web configurator and doing updates might be a turn-off to some.

[@neimyx1]

Remember that on the day that I type this 8/23/24....these controllers were called the "SNACK BOX" before the mandela effect changes it to "SMACK BOX"

[@HushMySweet1]

On 8/23/24, neimyx1 recorded the official name as the SLACK BOX. It's all official now, thank you. Shazam! ;)