Better than the Helix? Mooer GE300

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[@aleksanderdjuran8010]

That henning pauly remark made me spit my soda out. High octane banter xD

[@robertsimpson5801]

6:10 Well, that guy broke all of Glen's bass player stereotypes quite handily...

[@khronscave]

Shame the bass was so buried in the mix, though :/ Even during the solo bit, i struggled to hear it; probably couldn't have, without seeing the fretting hand.

[@alexnasla]

Anthony Crowford is a beast! One of the best bass players around!

[@E1p0tat0k1ng]

It helps that Anthony Crawford is from a bit of a different background, check out his earlier stuff with Virgil Donati. More recently I've seen him live with Gary Willis at the Bass Bash this year, which was absolutely phenomenal

[@alexnasla]

Matt Reav Glenn and I were actually there! And yes, Anthony was amazing!

[@khronscave]

​@@E1p0tat0k1ng Something like this? kzbin.info/www/bejne/g3KueKl7fL2YY7M

[@ShidoStrife]

"oooh but this one's made in China!" "Well so is the helix" gold 😂😂

[@dpapaioannow]

lol yeah....along with fucking everything else

[@marw9541]

Completely ignores the point that the software is developed by a Chinese company known for stealing IP, his points are always lowest common denominator stuff

[@JSBroadcast]

@@marw9541 So what if it's developed by a Chinese company? What exactly is your point?

[@marw9541]

@@JSBroadcast Sorry, I wasn't very clear on what I meant. Mooer is a Chinese company that has had litigation brought against it for copyright infringement. Glenn ignores that this is what everyone is talking about, not that it is just "from China." What I meant to say was "A Chinese company known for stealing IP". I've corrected myself now.

[@uriellevi9000]

i dont mean to be off topic but does someone know a way to log back into an Instagram account?? I somehow lost my account password. I would love any help you can offer me!

[@kongandbasses8732]

The synt mode made it as good as any John Lord wannabe l've heard over the years. If you want to cover Deep Purple songs and you don't have an organ - here you go.

[@johnnymankins1139]

I totally thought of Deep Purple as well!

[@russellkingren7875]

perfect strangers- not bad!

[@zwink623]

this is what I came here to say. Thank you for making me see I'm not alone

[@adamfox9651]

Now, can Glenn play "Child In Time"?

[@keeeeerdi]

7:10 nice slayer solo

[@sirdix1653]

Who else thinks Huawei should start making guitar multi effects pedals

[@JiosX]

​@john m They can spy on your midi preset using their 5G.

[@sirdix1653]

@john m Hilarius LOL

[@magickb7255]

@@JiosX man best of the day

[@TheNocturnalEvil]

Naah, I think Eventide should release a new version of the H9000 processor that has guitar and bass amp modelling, guitar and bass cab emulation, and tone capture option along with the plethora of the effects that the normal H9000 already has. I'm damn sure such a modeller will blow away every other modeller into weeds.

[@chhau123]

so they can steal yr information when you play your guitar?

[@eduardosalvador4776]

Another great review Glenn, these amp modelers are getting really good! Can barely tell the difference!

[@jasonstallworth]

Dude the tone when you start playing at 4:12 is pretty bad ass! And Cam on the drums...always a solid choice!

[@donebadd7151]

Finally! I watched Anderton's use this but they never do the heavier metal tones so I always wondered how it sounded for it. Sounds really good!

[@FMBeatsStudio]

Dude, I've been looking for some good reviews of that, like yesterday. Thanks Glen, great timing!

[@JiTiAr35]

Kemper profile vs GE300 tone capture blind test please.

[@pszypulski]

With everyone so obsessed with the helix over the past year at least, it's great to see someone actually showcase an alternative instead. Even pointing out a few flaws which I don't see many people doing in other reviews in general, not just the helix. Thank you for making the video. Just out of interest, how well does it work with a bass plugged in instead? I may be in the market for some new gear soon but, more importantly, I felt like letting the world know my disability. Regards!

[@jessemccormick5623]

Really liked Jake's playing on the most recent Iced Earth album. Awesome track in this video.

[@JiTiAr35]

Whoah. I didn't expect Glenn review this. Nice one.

[@Nils-el8ft]

Just bought the GE300, thx for the quick demo

[@brettmarlar4154]

I have their Brown Sound preamp pedal, and I adore it, as well as their speaker simulating mini DI, and I no longer need to haul heavy amps and cabs.

[@Soloist1983]

That rhythm tone was killer when you were playing, the riffs were, coincidentally, almost identical to some from the old Playstation Twisted Metal 3 OST, which also sounded awesome back in the day

[@jessesound597]

I had a chance to record through the Line 6 Helix (LT) the other day on Bass. The amp modelers... didn't sound too much like what they were designed after, but still produced amazing tones. I wonder how well the GE300 handles bass?

[@digiscream]

I think the main problem that the GE300 has in the UK is that it's only £85 cheaper than the Helix LT, which has a lot more useful stuff (more DSP capacity, multiple parallel signal chains, snapshots, more I/O, more output options etc). If it was proportionally cheaper, like in the US, it'd be about £475 (it's currently £665) and at that point I'd almost certainly get one to use as a backup.

[@WickedSide]

My point exactly!

[@aniketdatta2450]

It's cheaper in India than in the US. It's even cheaper in China but that's implied.

[@TacticalBurritoSystem]

The only features on this unit that the Helix doesn't have are the Kemper-like Tone Capture and more Robust Synth engine offerings. Line 6 could easily remedy this by adding more complicated Synth effects and create their own Tone Copy feature, which is stuff we've been asking for.

[@digiscream]

@@TacticalBurritoSystem - agreed. To be honest, I'm not really interested in either of those things. Synthy stuff ain't my bag, and I don't care about copying anybody else's tones; I prefer to build my own. The only things that are lacking in the Helix for my usage are decent pitch effects, and something like a Freqout to give more controllable feedback just so I can avoid searching for the sweet spot in the middle of a song, given that we're on the toilet circuit and 10 minute changeovers don't lend themselves to marking the right spots on stage with gig tape.

[@JiTiAr35]

Yeah seems most people don't really care with the tone capture. If they scrap it, it will be cheaper.

[@Zechariah340]

Hey Glenn was hoping if you could review the Zoom G3xn it's a budget guitar processor wanted to know your overall thoughts on it

[@ihaveriffs8261]

I was almost sold on the Hughes & Kettner Black Spirit but am now considering this. And that noise reduction is definitely killer!

[@jr6786]

Dang dude! Well done! I love your personality, why did it take me so long to find you in this world?

[@rodrigozamo]

Do check out.... Well, every other video by him. This was the tip of the iceberg of who Glenn is. Awesome dude, but also Fuck you Glenn (recurring joke around these videos)

[@neoone1848]

I love my ge 200 its a beast ! what IR did you use ?

[@sinnertrain7405]

Love the intro statement about MIC products!

[@lordviewer7305]

No jokes on bass players when they have arms that can crush your skull. Kidding. Great video Glenn

[@ParallaxSound315]

I've got to ask, because it wasn't addressed in the video, but is it possible to do the four cable method with it? I was looking to get the Helix or Headrush to cut down on my pedalboard and let me stop tap dancing every time I need to change a lot of effects at once, and I'm not REALLY looking to use sims live right now (though having them available as backup if something happens to my amp would be great) TL;DR, was looking at Headrush or Helix, but if this can do the four cable method, I might be sold on this one

[@detafult4617]

oh shiet that tone and that mix sounds incredible, great job!

[@Phobion95]

Speaking of old processors, have you ever had any experience with the Vox tonelab series ( especially the SE series ) ? If yes, then what are your thoughts of them ?

[@riffsandwich9541]

I am really interested in this for an easy direct recording option. Would love to see more on this!!!

[@mattharvey1774]

Hi Glen! I have the GE300… what IR did you use for this demo? Is it available to download or purchase? Great review as always.

[@benjaminrusch8093]

Did you use the Mooer GE300 on the bass as well?

[@idontcare_wtf]

I loved the mix!

[@Anvilshock]

Nice bass-playing!

[@skald9]

Is the software just for Windows/Mac/Android, and if so does it run under Wine (on a PC)?

[@marlonhyre]

Hello Mr. Glen,I honestly enjoy your videos.Always be honest

[@zanderdaniels1848]

Wow, that drum kit sounds phenomenal

[@bobdenmead4850]

I have the ge200 and that is phenomenal u can never go wrong with a mooer product

[@dvaoa]

The one criteria (criterion??) I look for when assessing high gain sims...how do the distorted notes decay? Is it smooth and gradual (like a real amp) or choppy and granular?

[@Smung]

That bassist is amazing, watching him play was mesmerizing

[@Graggk]

Hey you screaming freak! Love you stuff... I have been thinking about getting something like the Mooer GE300, but I'm not huge into recording. What would you suggest as a power amp for something like this? I've got a Marshall 4X12 already. Should I look into a different cab too?

[@voss451]

The only issue with the Mooer processor vs something like a Line 6 is getting it repaired should something go wrong. Back when I had a Pod XTL, the power input jack somehow disconnected from the board so the unit wouldn't power up. Since it was under warranty, I took it to the guitar shop, they sent it to their tech guy and it was fixed in a couple of days (they had a bit of a backlog). With the Mooer, it's pretty much only online importers who sell them, so if something happens that it stops working or something breaks, who knows how much it could cost or how long it could take to get it fixed.

[@user-rj3ry7wh4q]

im a mad fan of jason newsted,for his representative tone what would you like to recommend?

[@dobby240]

I was kind of half watching this while on facebook. I was thinking the tones sound banging then realised it was a digital modeller. I'm so glad I still have great tone and not have to buy a tube amp again. Sounds like a solid product

[@MR3DDev]

Hey Glen, would you recommend this for personal use (non recording non performing)? I like playing as a hobby, I used to own an AxeFX and sold it because I needed money for my bussiness. Would you say this is close to the AxeFx in terms of flexibilty ease of use?

[@butcher_0392]

@TechYk Bro you can get high gain tones with line 6 Pod x3 live if you know how use it, Axe is expensive same thing Kemper, but they don't are the best is only hype nothing more

[@MR3DDev]

@@butcher_0392 You just mentioned the problem I have with Line 6 "if you know how to use it" means spend a lot of time tweaking and tinkering. I play for a hobby, so I want to just setup a tone that sounds close to original and play along. I don't have extra time to go and spent hours dialing in a tone or watching tutorials on how to do it.

[@bjrha5101]

Hey Glen ! What's up? I'm looking to upgrade my bass amp, what do you think of the Ampeg BA210 V2?

[@McOuroborosBurger]

bjr ha Those are decent for most situations. If you want something with more snap I’d advise a GK 2x10. If you have a little extra to spend the Fender Rumble Stage 2x10 is pretty killer.

[@charleswhite8439]

Awesome Review! Great Playing! But Damn That Bass Though!! Turn It Up !!!👍🔊🔥

[@arbitermatt]

Hi Glen Are there any plexi models on there that go up to 11, just incase you need 1 more?

[@judiaz03]

Great review mr Glenn, I never comment but I feel much respect for what you doing on your channel, I was wondering if you have to deicide between pod go or helix stomp or ge300, what would you choose for playing at home and rehearsals. I’m just a metal guy who like rock and other similar generes like ambient tones and shimmeri. Stay safe and thanks. 🤘🏽

[@ANONYMOUSJEMAAT]

How Does it sound / is it any good with your rosen digital impulse?

[@faroffgrace5490]

I actually have a Mooer distortion pedal, and for what I paid for it, it was really kick ass. Maybe not amazing, but then again I wouldn't know if it's studio standard. But it's great for what I need it for. Definitely interested in this now.

[@garydupuis2796]

Love your reviews...watched the one about the new Line 6 and laughed my ass off!!! Lol! You RAWK! What are your thoughts on the Peavey Vypyr series of amps??

[@G3kk0852xbox]

Is it capable of dual amp/multi-amp presets such as using a Diezel amp model alongside a Plexi amp model?

[@animaegray]

Too expensive. Helix LT is a better buy, imo. It might cost a little extra, but considering you'd likely be using the thing for years, the extra cost shouldn't be a big deal. And Line6 is really committed to supporting the whole Helix ecosystem as well, there's really no telling how it'll go for GE300. They should've went for an "in-between" option for $500. Would've made for an interesting product too, as with these floor modelers it seems it's either 3 switches, or five million. They could've done a six-switch version and focused on the sound and usability (instead of synth crap which is cool and all, but very few would actually use it in practice).

[@ivanbrasla]

Or something like the helix effects to go with the preamp live

[@butcher_0392]

@animaegray Bro the problem of those ridiculous prices, is due to two products actually: 1) Kemper 2) Axe Fx Any company that thinks to offer a product with quality shades will set its price based on those two pieces of shit, if Kemper and Axe Fx cost each 500 usd it would be ideal for us musicians. But most guitarists sell them smoke and buy it, with false advertising, with the stupid tale of "NOW IF WE HAVE THE MOST ADVANCED ALGORITHMS, THE TONE OF A REAL VALVE AMP" and it's the same crap as before but with an eq globally modified and everyone buys it at 1000 usd more. We should be grateful to companies like Ignite amps that with their wonderful plugin emissary "FREE" we have the same quality of Kemper or Axe Fx and we saved 2000 usd in the process

[@pitaorj]

@@butcher_0392 for the price of a kemper or an axefx I´ll still be playing tube amps for life. And when I compare GE300 with an used 5153 50w I still prefer buying the amp. In that sense ge200 stills a killer!

[@butcher_0392]

@@pitaorj If friend very well that is, unfortunately most do not think so and deceive themselves saying: If a quality tube amp costs normally between 1000 and 2000 usd, why not pay 2500 usd and I have more than 100 amp? But what they do not know is that they are not 100 amps, it's an amp with slight modifications in EQ, and at factory it does not sound exactly like a real one without match Eq, the same as you can do with a Pod X3 Live and it costs 200 usd

[@animaegray]

@@butcher_0392 really not sure what's the point of comparing a VST to an all-in-one hardware solution. It's a totally different game. Not to mention that Kemper and Axe FX are studio-grade equipment that is overkill for your average bedroom guitarist (unless you have money, of course). Mooer should've aimed for the $500 "sweet spot", this is what POD HD500x and Boss GT units used to cost. With modern multi-fx (meaning IR capabilities and higher quality amp sim algos) units you're either look at "small, cheap, but with noticeable downsides", or at "large, expensive, and somewhat overkill for a hobbyist guitarist". There isn't a middle ground.

[@Tangalang22]

Did you run the bass through the ge300 as well?

[@dirtyharry1881]

good question

[@johnnyunit]

@@dirtyharry1881 I was wondering this myself.

[@hodshonf]

i didn't see any bass heads/cabs in the amp list from the user guide. that would be a deal breaker for me.

[@tonehammer7276]

Sounds really good!

[@pipelineaudio]

Does it have a proper dual output where one can feed a pa, with a speaker cab included and the other can feed a guitar amp with the speaker sim off at the same time? That’s the big death blow to most of these things

[@bettermetalsnake95]

I would also like to know this.

[@balintsloboda7651]

I'm torn here... I don't know if I want a Helix, a solid pedalboard with a Two notes C.A.B. m and a kraken pre amp or this one... please help! 😢

[@Deneteus]

I was waiting on this review.

[@davidshankle7359]

He was my guitar student for about five years when he was going through high school. Then we sent him off to GIT good to see him here.

[@swanofnutella4734]

That rhythm tone tho. The edge between crackling lightning rod from hell and uh ...bubble bath. It's so fine.

[@stonehartfloydfan]

Interesting unit, I will be sticking with my Helix for no other reason than that it has been reliable and robust on the road thus far.

[@ericvalverderosado2046]

That wah is good enough for the Hammet stuff, is a total yes for me, also love the pitch shifter...add another expression pedal and boom

[@TheThehitman63124]

How did you create the pitch shifter? Iv been trying to create one but struggling

[@AvatarofRogue]

Hey man, friends of mine want to record their stuff with me and the Drummer said he wants to spend like a 1000€ on Drummics. He asked me to choose stuff we should buy. It´s a Rock Band, but he plays some doublepedal stuff as well. I´m going for Lewitt LCT 040 MP as Overheads and 2 Sm 57 for the snare top and bottom. What would you take as Kickdrum and tom mics? i´ve seen that Audix D4 and D6 have different characteristics, D6 is cardioid the other is Hypercardioid. Does that make a huge difference? they also want to use the mics for live. Is there anything that makes a good studio mic vastly different from a good live mic?

[@SpectreSoundStudios]

The LEWITT drum mic kit is awesome

[@jackmcelroy2618]

This may be a dumb question but if I don’t ask I won’t know right.. so you always hear of people using their kemper or axe fx for live tone. Specifically Jeff Loomis and Keith Merrow come to mind. I use studio amps for recording but obviously in love situations I can’t bring those with me and if I did go ahead and buy one, I’d still only have access to the tones offered by that particular rig. I play small house shows or parties with my band and we have a variety of different tones we use for different styles, we also generally don’t have a sound guy so any sound comes straight through our rigs. To get to my question rather than drawing out the backstory of my ignorance, would I be able to buy this and say a Harley Benton v30 4x12 and play small shows with just that? Would I need it to run through a head of some sort? Obviously I don’t think of this as a permanent solution but I feel it would probably sound better than my Laney practice amp while I save for a better setup.

[@xanderjones6239]

You need to try the amp match feature! It works SO well

[@stargroves14]

I have a great amp...can i assign effects to the 8 or 10 footswitches..dont really need the amp models only for recording...thanks

[@Colovwwusv8]

i am loving that bass tone

[@MrBassdog]

Hey Glenn I got distracted with how awesome the bass player was in the demo!!

[@agency1000x]

great video thanks. hey is there a way to record the dry and wet seperately built into this? need to get the dry singal into my daw so i can run it through other guitar sims

[@TheGrandmaMoses]

@5:00 He bends to the B with his pinky! That is some crazy technique if I ever saw one, well played!

[@Slevinlobell]

One of the only channels I click the like button before I even watch the vid because I KNOW its gonna be a good video..thanks Glenn for all the good shit over the last few yrs..and the Rule #2 bassist hat i got from u a few yrs ago was priceless at a few of the gigs i played whenever i got a bass players panties in a bunch over it..and guess what I noticed??? I NEVER got shit for that hard from ANYONE that actually knew how to play their bass,was always a hack bassist,lol.(funny side note- I hopped onto bass for that band as I'm primarily a guitarist,so it made it even funnier in the end that I was the bassist whenever I got called an asshole for "picking on bass players" so to speak.lol

[@cygnus3114]

that clean chorus sounds amazing

[@777james777]

Sounds good like so many others but how does it feel playing it?

[@bluematrix5001]

so do you guys think that the GE300 may sound better than software like Neural DSP and STL Tones?

[@Don_of_the_Dad]

I own a jsx. This sounds pretty dang close

[@metalmaniac8640]

Might be a stupid question but could this be used as a multi effects board into a real amplifier? And if so would it be worth having this over tons of pedals and racks?

[@killbeers6890]

Yes, I run mine into the FX return of my amp and it sounds great

[@jimtalltheislandbrothers6639]

problem in UK is the Mooer ge300 is £665 and the Headrush £774 ... which to buy?

[@rangerdoc1029]

I recently got a Mooer Preamp Live. I promptly listed most of my tube amps for sale.

[@redrum427]

Would you just plug this into the pa in a live situation?

[@the-LeoKnightus]

Sounds good. So polished. Can tell it's not an amp, but in a good way?

[@helgijonsson3537]

Honestly one of the best live guitar sounds I've ever heard was Kreator, who were using a Kemper. It just sounded so clean and precise, and sat perfectly in the mix. It sounded a lot better than many bands I've seen with 100W stacks onstage.

[@krodriguez2298]

Does it have a looper that can handle midi clock?

[@RubyRoks]

That Sounds KILLER

[@gab.gonzalez1988]

I cant decide between line 6 helix vs mooer ge 300 vs fractal ax8 can someone give me a good advice if its from glenn it will be awesome!!!

[@rockstaradventures1]

So let me ask if you remember, was that Solar guitar on the stock pickups? Or were they changed out....... Thanks!

[@eroticblack]

Damn Man sounds amazing!

[@maxscardanelli6185]

That casual stab at Henning! 😂👌🏻

[@edwinmasias6903]

What was the noise suppressor you used?? Thanks

[@emile-arthuroosterlynck2847]

Hey Glen, Huge fan, I've learned a lot from your videos, I myself am a musician with no desire to be doing any recording work other than my own band but your videos have shown me a lot of ways to be more professional even as a starting band with no recordings and how I can make it easier for everyone involved with the band, aka the studio engineers, potential tour managers, bus drivers, bass player's moms, vannues etc. Little bit off topic but what's your opinion on technical death metal bands such as aborted, obscura or archspire? Kind regards, generic belgian fan *eats waffle and drinks beer*

[@Triumphinchrist1]

Does the GE 300 capture profiles like Kemper & the GE labs?

[@kissthissonline]

I’m interested in your IR’s, where can I find out more about them?

[@richconner5245]

What about the gnx4 just curious anyone's opinion I got one long time ago but I dont use it much.

[@L.Scott_Music]

"Half hour demo" is generous. Haha! Henning's vids on things like this are usually much longer and sometimes episodic!

[@chitstain89]

That grindy tone with the synth setting on the Powerbell would be perfect for a sound like the organ part in "Blue Collar Man"

[@moonsuga]

Man I love that Solar!

[@HimTortons]

That sounded pretty fucking good. Is there also a standalone software, kind of like helix native

[@itai.617]

The clean chorus sounded *noice*

[@rudycastillo6369]

glenn would you use this over a helix stomp or boss gt1000

[@playadeguitar]

Thanks for the great preview, Glen! I am looking to step-up to a floor modeler, and I would love to see a shoot-out between the Moorer, Helix, Headrush, and Boss GT-1000. Please make it so!!!

[@pikkubuddha]

playadeguitar You should check amplifire 6 and 12 also 👍

[@TheSanctionextremis]

I've got an HX stomp, and I'm starting to find that it's just too limiting in design for me to truly enjoy jamming with. It's a bit disappointing saving up $900 CAD and then having a less than amazing time. I might look at selling it and getting a mooer. I had the 200, but I think the 300 might be "the one"