Beyerdynamic 990/770 PRO vs. Audio-Technica ATH-M50X - Which did I choose and why?

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[@StrangerInParadise58]

Good review, thank you. The 'Ohmage' is called "impedence." The AT are only 38 ohms vs. the 200 for your DT770 Pros. But the good news is that the DT770 Pros come in three different impedence ratings and each has a different cable: - 32 ohm with short straight cable - 80 ohm with long straight cable - 200 ohm with coiled long cable I recommend the 80 ohm version. I have them and they are killer! The long straight cable is fantastic as well! Hope this helps!

[@JoelWilliamHarrison]

Thanks! Glad you're happy with the DT's mate. I'm going to stick with the AT's myself and Slate's down the road.

[@assloader]

Dt770 pro 80 ohm sound better than 250 ohm but the dt990 pro 250 ohm sound the best

[@kristis3755]

Have you tried using 80ohms on phone? How good are they? Do they work fine and sound loud and clear?

[@wellbi]

The Ohmage is called Impedance.

[@JoelWilliamHarrison]

It’s been a while since science class 🤦‍♂️ Of course! Haha ⚡️

[@JavierPineda50]

Than you! Great job!

[@LightBlazeMC]

great vid thank you!

[@JoelWilliamHarrison]

Cheers mate glad you liked it!

[@TheShinyShow]

Bit late to the party, but I use the coil cable most of the time. It is fairly short so there's not loads of spare lead about my desk and chair, but I'm not welded to the spot if I want to wheel over to get my guitar or stand up. If I put a long cable on, the cable ends up on the floor and can get stuck on things.

[@marcusblennegard569]

Totally agree. I have the DT990 600 Ohm version which have like two meters long cable or something and that is in a pile on the floor beside my char which I always need to watch out for not rolling over and damage.

[@MSNGR415]

Also not the best cans for tracking guitars with the open back speakers. I actually like the 990’s for mixing and mastering at my desk so the the coil cable lets me move around the studio. I don’t run into issues during tracking or recording because I use a closed back pair with a long straight cord for that.

[@cky1909]

usually the more Ohms you have, the more difficult will be to make your headphone's driver move or vibrate, so you will require more power for this. Something like a portable DAC-Digital to Analog converter and/or a portable Amp. To get the best listening experience from your headphones, use some sort of amplification if the ohms are higher than 32.

[@sumedhadsule2957]

@@assloader it needs more power to work good but its always a better sound stage and clarity if we try to compare it even with the lesser impedance headphones generally with the same model, now even the impedance has been lowered to give to better soundstage in the newer beyerdynamics set of headphones so you can directly connect it through your pc or laptop

[@JM-nu2kw]

Does 990 have detachable cable? Which one sounds better for classic rock 990 or m50x?

[@papahhbil]

With the cord aside, which of the three are the best value in terms of sound quality and other factors? I'm in the market for new cans and these three are on the list. Thanks mate, cheers.

[@JoelWilliamHarrison]

Closed vs. Open Back are different beasts. I'm happy with the M50X. As always though if you can listen to a pair in real life that's always best. Hard in COVID times though.

[@StudioNainaz]

I have both of them. For mixing, I prefer DT990 more.

[@hemberofficial]

the coil cable can be very useful if you pull on the headphones so they dont break (happened to me twice with de audio technica m50x

[@soulfulfool]

No idea what people see in m50x I had a pair also had 770pro 250ohm and simply can say that beyerdynamic is way better in any term of usage. I'm of course fan of open headphones that's why all tested closed backs some how are sold.

[@iamlmx]

I agree on that. But i think the m50x is more suitable for tracking given its detachable and different types of cables. But sound quality and comfort wise, the 990s beats them anyday.

[@ajj1032]

Hey man, was there any clear differences in sound quality/comfortability between the 990s and the ATs?

[@JoelWilliamHarrison]

Literally what the video is about mate haha I prefer the ATs

[@iamlmx]

As a music producer who've used both these headphones i can clearly say that the comfort/quality wise the 990s beat the Ath anyday. But it solely comes do to what you will be using for.

[@ildarkinildarkin]

I love coiled cable and hate those long straight ones on 770

[@WanderinWizard]

The coiled cable is for sitting down at a table :-)

[@tsanket2564]

Is ifi Zen DAC V2 capable enough to properly drive DT990 Pro (250 ohm)? I was told by a seller that it wont drive to the full potential

[@JoelWilliamHarrison]

Another reason I like the ATH better. Less hassle. I don’t know the answer to this question though sorry.

[@leeloodog]

mx50s benefit from pads. Comfort is the big thing. You can also change the cable. they sound find with eq as well for a lot of things. I usually flatten out the top for pleasure. All these are well built.

[@aaronYoh]

I LOVE the ATH M50x for guitar. The tone is much clearer, and has a punchier bass than the Beyerdynamics.

[@fredbarnes196]

Back in the day they had these things called telephones which pretty much proved the value of the coiled wire. Doesn’t get tangled and is short until you stretch it.

[@JoelWilliamHarrison]

I'm familiar with this device you speak of Fred. A telephone was normally mounted to the wall or had a heavy base though. I don't want to be stretching the cable while trying to play or record, it's just annoying. The coil design works in some cases but not for me in this instance. Each to their own though.

[@fredbarnes196]

@@JoelWilliamHarrison there are two types of people, the very aware, who notice the weight and feel of the coiled cord , and how far extended the cord is. Then there are the unaware, who don’t notice the weight and appreciate the cord won’t let you yank against the plug when you extend it too far. And so there must be accommodations for everyone

[@JoelWilliamHarrison]

​@@fredbarnes196 With awareness come responsibility and choice.

[@Joe-ve4hg]

God bless

[@3ph384]

Hi, Pls review Sennheiser HD 660 vd HD 800. thanks . more power to you and your channel. thanks

[@JoelWilliamHarrison]

Hi mate, I don't have those versions sorry. I'm sure someone out in KZbin land has compared them though :)

[@ildarkinildarkin]

Don't use 990 for guitar. Use 770 with straight cable. Coiled is for desk

[@paradoxic1888]

I have both the M50X's and DT990's. Honestly, sound quality is more important to me than practicality. The DT990's are rolled off on the low end and peaks at the top end which is a bit annoying having been used to the more pronounced low-end curve on the M50X's. On the other hand, The DT990's have a much more open stage, so you can quickly pick apart the assortments of instruments in a track, while the M50X's kind of just mushes everything together. Don't get me wrong, the M50X's are amazing headphones, but they've passed their sell-buy date and I was forced to get a new pair, which is why I went with the 990's. I use Pedalboard software on my computer to first of all fix the EQ curve with a plugin, as well as run a crossover plugin to get the sound you'd get from listening on speakers. If it wasn't for the software, I wouldn't have gone for the DT990's, because I just love bass too much, but the software fixes that problem. I must say, with the software running, the bass response is so clean and tight, and I don't regret my choice, because now I get the best of both worlds. I just hope to God the cable lasts a couple of years. I freak out just thinking about it. Oh just FYI, the M50X's are definitely not 250 ohm, more around 38 ohms, so you'll need an amp for the DT990's or you won't hear it at it's full potential.

[@iduz631]

What pedalboard software do you use? I’m after sound quality as well and I’ve seriously been considering the 990’s for a soundstage upgrade over my M50x’s. On top of that, what would you suggest for the crossover settings?

[@paradoxic1888]

@@iduz631 I see many well-known producers still using the M50X's. While not so much soundstage, the low-end is top-notch. Great for EDM. My DT990's got water damage, so I bought the DT900 Pro X's instead. Best value for money and has a detachable cable, but it has less low-end, so you'll need to train your ear. Similar with the DT990's. If you're going to produce with headphones, software like Goodhertz CanOpener is a must as it creates crossover to the room of your choice. Toneboosters Morphit is also good to balance out the EQ curve for your headphones model, but if you train your ear you don't need it. I've seen studios switching to crossover software so they can produce on headphones and little needs to be tweaked on monitors after the process.

[@the13thwardsadam92]

hey man, audio technicas are 32 ohms and dont require an amp to run, kind of meant to be used off your phone, 250 ohm headphones on the other hand wont ever sound as good as they're meant to without the proper power from a dac and amp. its not that they dont sound as nice its that they arent set up correctly

[@JoelWilliamHarrison]

You're correct re ohms. Learning as I go! But to be honest it came down to the cord and practicality for me. I said the AT sounded brighter/harsher but not necessarily in a good way. Usage was via my UA Arrow, never had an issue with either model being loud or defined enough.

[@johngotti8544]

38 ohms

[@garyluciani370]

@@JoelWilliamHarrison Yea ,It's not necessarily true that if you have a 250 Ohm headphone that they need a dedicated amp. It depends on the capability of whatever device they're plugged into. Specifically the amplifier section.

[@JoelWilliamHarrison]

@@garyluciani370 not sure if I said that or not? Just my thoughts anyways thanks for the comment.

[@anujparashar3944]

Actuallly dt 990 pro 250 ohm version has a very high resistance of 250 ohm which will need a very long length of wire so that the electrons will collide with the ions in the wire many times and produce a high resistance. thats why they have a very long cable which is coiled.

[@stoatinstaunerbrewing6107]

The resistance is caused by the number of winds/thickness of the copper wire coil in the drivers. The cable will actually have a very low resistance.

[@camofpv]

Kidding right?

[@heut4384]

Hmmmm...somehow, I can't really hear you. I noticed you're using Shure SM7B mic...but I just can't hear you well. It sounds like you covered a blanket over your mic.(???)

[@JoelWilliamHarrison]

Sounds fine on my phone and computer mate. Might be an issue with your speakers.

[@Ziraffe2]

Coil is cool - you are too young to understand. All okay, , , and great lights. Eeeehhh, , , did you mention sound at all. . .

[@JoelWilliamHarrison]

Young is subjective. Sound is irrelevant! 🤣I have and will never like the coil, cool or not it’s like having your head or shirt stuck on something constantly. Not for me, but if you love it, coil on ✌️

[@Ziraffe2]

I caught the plus/minus 1970 coil wave. Once you'd seen Country Joe and The Fish's guitarist work out his 10 meter coil on stage there was no return. . .

[@stanmah5721]

Shouldn't be reviewing headphones if you have hearing loss!

[@JoelWilliamHarrison]

Did I mention that in the video? I can still hear and hearing impaired people need headphones too. BUT also the video is titled ‘which did I chose and why?’ It’s not titled ‘I’m the overlord of headphones and what I say is gospel’. Just my experience and thoughts.

[@Just_a_Tool]

"You shouldn't be reviewing a pc monitor if you can't see it well without your glasses." You see how stupid that sounds?

[@wichura5746]

On trochę wygląda jak Słoń z BDF

[@KevvPL]

nie wiedziałem że będzie tu polak

[@JavierPineda50]

Than you! Great job!

[@ildarkinildarkin]

Don't use 990 for guitar. Use 770 with straight cable. Coiled is for desk

[@Tooom09]

How much Ohmage (Impedance, 32, 80 or 250) do you recommend for guitar.

[@ildarkinildarkin]

@@Tooom09 250