BEYOND EVIL: VILLAINS WHO WERE COMPLETELY RIGHT

[@JRE_Land]

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[@Kevin-sr8yx]

It’s not difficult to find something wrong with the world. It’s their “solution” that makes villians evil.

[@seanmachlan3282]

So, then would it be fair to say that you believe all villains aren't evil?

[@Kevin-sr8yx]

@@seanmachlan3282 Please explain how you arrived at that hypothesis based on what I wrote.

[@gandalfgutz1670]

@@Kevin-sr8yx😂😂😂

[@ramalshebl60]

it's a means to an end.. don't stress

[@seanmachlan3282]

@@Kevin-sr8yx "It's their ""solution"" that makes villains evil." Written as an equation, that sounds like: Solution + Villain = Evil. That said, I understand that you are implying that the aforementioned solution is undesirable to at least you. So, the equation then might look more like this: (Solution I find undesirable) + Villain = Evil. That said, my question (rephrased) is this: If a Villain were to set about applying a Solution that you deemed desirable, would that Villain not then qualify as Evil?

[@roaringlaughter3812]

We empathize with villains because we feel the same anger at the injustice in the world. A villain lets his inner monster win. We all have that inner monster

[@thegreatacolyt1277]

Not always

[@roaringlaughter3812]

@@thegreatacolyt1277 not always? As in not all people have an inner monster? Because that’s just people who haven’t been faced with their inner beast.

[@thegreatacolyt1277]

@roaringlaughter3812 no not that not all people are right in whatever you said

[@danielefabbro822]

​@@thegreatacolyt1277 no one are always right, as no one are always wrong. Simply we don't own every answers. But we all have the need to improve our life and the lives of those we love. It's mainly love and feelings that makes us "evil"... While "good" is atone characteristic, once becomed emotive, everything can be evil. And once becomed emotive, humans immediately becomes evil. Because there are some aspects of human life that requires us to be like that. If you want, there's a good example of this topic in the movie "Equilibrium". Definitely one of my favorites.

[@homiesenatep]

That is so cool

[@LightGivingSubstituteGatekeepr]

Batman and the Joker talking to eachother is like the two different hemisphere's in my brain trying to get along 😂😂😂

[@amateurcrastinator9523]

I hate to be that guy... but. I'm pretty sure that's Twoface.

[@zshah3107]

We either die as heroes or live long enough to become villains!

[@knightofarkronia9968]

0:51 An even more effective retort that she could’ve used is that the title used for said people was ‘dictator.’

[@chrisignity1683]

5:05 God fucking damnit the internet broke that voice for me. I cannot take this batman seriously anymore with so many parodies of batman doing a bad impersonnificationof The Dark Knight's batman's voice. Now for the fun fact that will make a lot of people feel old: That movie is now 16 years old. Meaning that in 4 years it will be 20 years old. 2 decades... *Grunts in old man trying to stand up*

[@joanthanreyes4652]

Cesar was asked to be a dictator and only taken out when his contemporaries hates him not for miss ruling

[@spentcasing3990]

They didn't ask him to be dictator. He ordered them to make him dictator after he took Rome

[@eshnajizzle]

​@@spentcasing3990 Was about to say this 😅

[@eshnajizzle]

Then again Dent's analogy doesn't even work. The Roman dictators were democratically appointed to serve (originally for a short, fixed time). It's more like war-time powers for a president than a masked self-appointed vigilante.

[@zionleach3001]

I don't get the "villain was right" arguments. I mean they might be right about injustices in the world. But every evil person thinks they're right.

[@andrewpytko4773]

This is every college freshmen's wet dream of what they think psychology is.

[@Antioche]

"Every mammal on this planet, instinctively develops.." *buzzer sound* *EHHHHHHH* WRONG.

[@ajoliva95_vigilante_anime_86]

Not all villains are evil, they're broken heroes and made by the society

[@comicbookreviewer4856]

Sometimes they can be misguided or think their ideals or views is helping people without seeing the real harm of their actions or those around theme or seeing if it will make anything better

[@stepsteel9040]

Also created by people too

[@Gadget-Walkman18mi-ez3td]

All villain's are evil they are not broken heroes.

[@ajoliva95_vigilante_anime_86]

@@Gadget-Walkman18mi-ez3td villains aren't to be evil and some villains are evil that's just a difference

[@Gadget-Walkman18mi-ez3td]

@@ajoliva95_vigilante_anime_86 I don't care what you said. Villain's are top be assume villainy are evil are no excuse just a difference.

[@MataNui.]

Oh gee more cynicism that people are gonna try and convince me is the villain being right.

[@zionleach3001]

Yeah, most villains may be broken, but they're still awful people.

[@M3sshh]

Heath ledger was on point as joker in the dark night. Definitely the best joker along with Joaquin Phoenix in the movie Joker

[@stupidtoga3523]

Hearing Hollywood writers take on animal behavior always makes me want to force them to experience the “wonders” of the natural world. That would be a hilarious reality show. Episode one: ducks, isn’t nature romantic Episode two: bear cubs and their new stepdad

[@klauskleber4001]

I think there arent Villains or Good people in the world. And whoever thinks there are, is stupid and naive. Example: Killing someone can be a crime, can also be something good. but thats wrong. in the end someone got killed. if its good or not is just an opinion of someone (yea we are many so there could be many people with the same opinions)

[@majorhavik395]

Villains aren’t born evil. They just lived long enough to become one. RIP Heath Ledger. We’re only as good as the world allows us to be.

[@Jaeger_Bishop]

Agent Smith's take on humanity is just nihilism taken to its extreme, not accounting for evolution or higher cognitive abilities of human adaptation. Honestly, it just sounds like something the average teenager says to try and sound profound.

[@seanmachlan3282]

Agent Smith is advocating for the culling and control of a food source incapable of maintaining an environmental homeostasis. That's not nihilism. That's not an advanced form of nihilism. Lol

[@MishaChorniy]

All you need is bodypositive upitanni pedro bcouz thin guys can't face their absence of clues in some scenarios

[@themanwithnoname3636]

My personal opinion Heath Ledger as the joker is 1 of the best acting performances of all time.

[@bobbbobb1624]

If you like boring and predictable then I would agree

[@pinhead1627]

I want to point out that Joker was literally proven wrong in the film he was in.

[@danielefabbro822]

Also, a great movie that is rarely taken as example for such topic is "Equilibrium". I was explaining a point down here to another post when I remembered that movie. You should watch it. You'll definitely like it.

[@CROOKEDALLIGATORMYSTIC]

Im subscriber #413 your welcome

[@anthonyfanchin1144]

Despite all the chaos, The Joker is right

[@williamolsen2349]

I pulled an ace and over killed like what a 7 with it saying that - willy 0

[@davidanderkovics5230]

Agent Smith is not right, we are mammals. The rest of the stuff he is saying is just edgy teenager level stuff...

[@tylerharris4392]

Naive

[@LaZonaDiRin3743]

Yeah, people are poisoned by these distorted thoughts.

[@LaZonaDiRin3743]

​@@tylerharris4392this is word it applies more to Smith's speech and those who agree with him, so naive as to have never opened a book on anthropology or virology.

[@JulieDeponte]

The Wachowskis likely never paid attention to "logistic growth" as explained in any biology class sooner or later in high school.

[@chasethemaster3440]

It’s clearly a metaphor like seriously how dumb can you be to take it at face value?

[@DanielRossellSolanes]

I'm not sure about the rest but Joker was 100% right. as proof. batman had to run and hide at the end of the movie and everybody (but gordon) believed him to be a merciless criminal. now that I think about it, Harvey dent was right on it too. it applied to both batman and himself. you either die as a hero or live to become a villain.

[@nicholasnguyen5181]

The joker if I’m being honest was right. All it takes was one bad day to make someone mad… . I went mad plenty of times due to countless bad days… . So I emphasize with him. I really do.

[@thegreatacolyt1277]

Yeah but still nqh

[@nicholasnguyen5181]

@@thegreatacolyt1277 yeah

[@thegreatacolyt1277]

@@nicholasnguyen5181 yeah but he evil

[@nicholasnguyen5181]

@@thegreatacolyt1277 I noticed. And no worries. I’m just saying his quote was good, not that he’s good

[@thegreatacolyt1277]

@@nicholasnguyen5181 yeah

[@renevil2105]

Umm to the Dark Knight clip they appointed another after ceaser. They called him Augustus who is a ceaser and made life better when he kept power, died of old age and those after him let it fall with the Senate being the main problem creators.

[@jeremymacdonald6687]

Soo Kevin spacey is a monster in real life.

[@dragonblast417]

Now I wanna see an elseworld story comic or otherwise where Bruce dies saving Harvey from becoming Two-face an Harvey becomes the new Batman, fighting crime as a lawman by day and as a crime fighter by night

[@thebaneking4787]

I know everyone likes Bales Batman. But I don’t think it’s the best. I’d be embarrassed to do that voice. Cow and cape aside, how do you take that seriously? It was just goofy. Now when he yelled in the first one “Swear to me!!!” That was cool. But not cool when explaining the heart of a city. Lol

[@ElizabethMcCormick-s2n]

RIP, Heath Ledger!

[@mebhisntatownie]

the engineer was completely right as well

[@NiRudraws]

The joker is simply the best. One of the best performances out there.

[@schwarzflammenkaiser2347]

Caesar was less elected by the public than that he elected himself, most of his detractors had fled rome at that point (unless you were a gigachad like Cicero) with the rest of the senate facing among other things a whole army that were loyal to caesar because he pushed for legislatur that benefitted them. The true last dictator was Sulla around 20-30 years earlier and boy he was a piece of work.

[@LaMarcusBeethovenJr.]

Agent smith corny. We are mammals and all mammals do that. Were just at the top of the food chain and dominate all other species

[@primelawliet]

Your father was right by leaving you

[@prashants5071]

Harvey was wrong even he turned a cynical villian

[@ronin2963]

Maggie was so cute in that movie

[@hcj7140]

Count Dooku was kinda right

[@N1664datsnvtz]

The real reason that villains have better moral standards than heroes. My past self (around 2000s) kinda rooted for the villains at some of the times.

[@marpro212]

So, moral relativism in a nutshell?

[@Bige220]

General Hummel from the rock, was right. He tried to do things thru the proper channels, but the powers that be wouldn't listen.

[@brandoncruise6398]

There are several scenes in that movie that really get to me, especially as a veteran myself. He was not a bad guy for the sake of being bad, but wanted the world to see the injustice that happened to his men and their families. Their lives were wasted and forgotten by the government.

[@End-With-a-Smile-or-No-RIP]

INFJ personality going dark side. Cypher was right too. I like the matrix. I'd rather eat a good pizza than some soup that looks like gruel 😂I had a hippie streak during my youth. About trying to live off the grid, but the guy running the place was as control freak as a dictator 🤣 Those naturosociopaths can get lost, I go back to the office Ha-Ha

[@kaiiheenjik1668]

Stockholm syndrome is why no one revolts against their oppressers. Easier living makes stronger men weak.

[@monk3110]

@@kaiiheenjik1668is… easier living oppressive?

[@LoneHeckler]

Beavers are mammals but dont create an equilibrium with their surrounding environment

[@SH-qs7ee]

Every animal seeks to conform the environment around them to increase it's own chances of survival and comfort; beavers tear down trees and dam streams, elephants clear paths through the scrub. Hell, there are species of sea slugs that secrete poisons into the water around them, and birds of prey that have learned to hunt by dropping sticks of fire into dry grass.

[@trollfack2966]

Postal dude was also right. He said “I regret nothing”. This is the most correct thing in fiction because after killing thousands with his nuke, he truely regrets nothing.

[@neongenesis7236]

We’ll agree with Agent Smith, I also found Mankind way closer to Virus. But what so bad with this?😊 Viruses are the best representation of life itself. I honestly think about life as “disease” to universe which have only two goals: live and spread.

[@LaZonaDiRin3743]

Mankind was closer to every other animals,not virus, we are mammals and we have the same instinct of all animals, why people are so misantrophes and don't open a biology book?

[@eleegs]

No. Just cleverly written script copy to rationalize evil acts. Don’t be fooled by the inventiveness of good writers

[@loruuu7730]

The last quote should maybe have gotten a voiceover as well, kind of misses the mark otherwise. As undoubtedly other people have already done, each of their 'believes' can (quite easily) be met with counterarguments of a less edgy and depressed view of this world, wich in superhero media the heroes often fail tbh... anyways, nice summary of evil speeches

[@sequoiaperez7899]

Best joker .

[@Eccentric-c5q]

Im a monster.. But im a monster with standards and a good soul. ..Stay dangerous my friends..

[@danielefabbro822]

In a sense, that's why I like mostly anti-heroes. Unlike heroes and villains, they kill for a purpose, they are more humans, they accept to be both evil and good. Morally speaking, they are more.

[@Eileen139]

please make the type larger are unat 10? go to 12 or 12.5

[@nDjinn1]

Are you an AI? You dont seem to like humans that much :)

[@Philocyb1n]

kevin goofy

[@levijensen1627]

Still Karl Says do I know a postal code

[@ZeusAmun-pt9dc]

Caesar was killed before he could of given up his power and he was given the power for life so yeah take that Jake's sister.

[@cobeleland]

You can have a subjective view on morality but morality itself is not subjective. Logic dictates it must be objective.

[@martialmack43]

Your logic is flawed, all ideologies are subjective.

[@cobeleland]

Your statement is incomplete, there must be a "why". The person who taught you this subjective view on ideologies lied to you. @@martialmack43

[@anonymususer1728]

How so ? I find it to be just the opposite: morality is inherently subjective.

[@martialmack43]

@@cobeleland Your logic is incomplete. Why does there have to be a why? The person that taught you this objective view on ideologies lied to you.

[@cobeleland]

God can't lie so I was not lied to. The truly objective being makes morality what it is. Murder is bad because God said so and declared it to be that way. There is your why. If you don't believe in the why then I will not waste anymore time on a fool. @@martialmack43

[@dominicmccarthy501]

the atticus cut lang ear in the back yawn fairy

[@ronwhite8503]

Passable attempt at English, if only it made sense.

[@dominicmccarthy501]

@@ronwhite8503 okay witch

[@pendragonshall]

"The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist".. fact because without God aka morality.. Good is evil and evil is good.. Look at our society.. it is collapsing,, people are too far from God and wicked,,, and good men to few and weak

[@ronwhite8503]

Both the devil and god are fictional so it makes no difference.

[@thegreatacolyt1277]

If they're evil they're not right its that simple

[@theninja86478]

Spoken like a true simple minded peon.

[@SH-qs7ee]

You can't be evil and right at the same time?

[@thegreatacolyt1277]

@@SH-qs7ee you can but they're not right

[@gunpuppy3533]

@@thegreatacolyt1277you can be right in your beliefs/philosophy but wrong in your actions.

[@thegreatacolyt1277]

@gunpuppy3533 yeah but joker just isn't right