Bezzera Magica Espresso Machine Overview - Espresso Outlet

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[@amandajohnson2332]

You’re are the only person on KZbin with this specific Bezzera Magic’s 1901. Please please 🙏🏽 make a cleaning video. Your set up is awesome. I’m sure you must have a strict maintenance protocol.

[@portakeeper]

This was a review machine. Great machine but I am always swapping machines!

[@simonmurray8220]

Got one of these : mine has had issues with anti vac valve and element failures at 24mths old. Good machine results wise though.

[@clivejarmusch2906]

Nice overview! Is the machine suitable for light commercial use? Could it handle, say, 20-40 cups per day? your insights will be greatly appreciated.

[@alaskavaper966]

The Magica seems like an excellent double boiler machine, I particularly love the lever type activation. A flow control addition would be great.

[@BensCoffeeRants]

it's a heat exchange machine, not double / dual boiler. As you probably know with most E61 machines you can add a flow control mod pretty easily.

[@alaskavaper966]

@@BensCoffeeRants My bad. I misunderstood.

[@portakeeper]

Like Ben said it’s a heat exchanger. All the terms are a bit much. I trip over them myself. One boiler with a second boiler built into it is how the HX machines work. Cool simple concept. The Magica really shocked me how much I enjoyed it. Sometimes you just never know. Ended up really liking this machine a ton! It sold and is out the door tomorrow. On to its new owner who’s going to enjoy it.

[@BrentGoodale]

Thanks for the shoutout!!!

[@portakeeper]

More to come!

[@valemodsVD]

Thanks for the video! Just bought this machine (PID version)...however if you're interested her name is pronounced "Ma'geeka" (from the italian "Magic"). Please don't call her Magesha! 😭

[@BensCoffeeRants]

From what I've heard HX machines with PID seem to give more stable temps and reduce the need for a cooling flush. BUT I think they do that by implementing a thermosyphon design with the PID in mind, so if both models are the same, they just popped on a PID you may still need to do cooling flushes. I think the benefits for a PID is you'll likely get a lot less temperature swings and probably save energy as a result, especially if the boiler is insulated. The benefit of NOT having a PID in a HX machine is that you can probably control the temperatures quicker and more effectively by your timing and the amount of cooling flush you do, but you need to learn how the machine works and what temps your getting and how much cooling flush is necessary and there's always some variability and guesswork involved. But if you wanted to do a really hot shot and a cold shot back to back it's more possible without a PID I think.

[@portakeeper]

You’d need a cooling flush regardless IMO but the PID has less swing and way easier to set! I think they are very cool and very versatile devices. Pressure stat is old school but does the job. PID is new school and does a slightly better job! Downside to the HX is when you increase one temp it increases the temp for both steam and brew boiler.

[@hengommans6162]

Thank you for the video. How much coffee you use for a single shot espresso?

[@niekversteege]

Thanks for the video. It seems you have some channeling at 5:13 or am I seeing that wrong?

[@portakeeper]

Possibly.

[@publicname515]

How has the reliability been? How does it compare to the Profitec Pro 500?

[@portakeeper]

I typically dont own long enough to know true king term reliability. Most of these are really good, my Rocket Giotto is maybe 7-8 years old. I always forget. I had to replace the gicar controller after a bad power surge. Still running great! Pro 500 totally different machine so hard to compare. Both good

[@fliacragno]

Hi @portakeeper! Great video!!! I wanted to ask your opinion. I'm tron between buying a 10 year old Bezzera Magica like the one on your video. Original owner who took very good care of it. OR a brand new Bezzera Unica with PID and Flow Control from WLL. The Unica is $300 more. I only drink 1 cappuccino in the morning and a couple of espressos in the afternoon. Which option would you think would be best? If any of these 2 or something else. I was also looking into the Profitec Go which is $1k. But I won't have pre-infusion or flow control. But it might be a good option too. Thanks in advance!

[@portakeeper]

I’d go new. 10 years is serviceable but you’ll spend $300 getting cleaned up if you have a problem

[@fliacragno]

@@portakeeper thank you vey much for replying! I appreciate your insight! Big fan of your videos!

[@portakeeper]

@@fliacragno appreciate! Hope you enjoy the new machine!

[@helipilotwannab]

I'm between this machine (with pid) and a Profitec pro 500. Any thoughts on which you would choose?

[@portakeeper]

They are both fairly similar I guess. Not owned the Pro 500. I personally don’t like their styling as much. The brand is a great brand. Bezzera been around for ages too. Can’t really go wrong

[@helipilotwannab]

Thanks for taking the time to reply :) @@portakeeper

[@elluisongo85]

Can I attach a drain hose to the tray and does it have the option to plug a direct water connection?

[@portakeeper]

Not this model. This is a slightly more basic but extremely nice machine!

[@bradlywilliams5570]

Do you think 2 if these together could facilitate 100-150 average customers daily on a small shop?

[@portakeeper]

No, they are not designed for that. Will wear out quickly.

[@SemiCharmedLife35]

@@portakeeper what are they designed for

[@portakeeper]

@@SemiCharmedLife35 these machines are prosumer machines. These are made for home use.

[@claptoned0]

I see that Bezzera always adjust his machines to 12 bars instead of 9...

[@TheVromi]

Не правильное приготовление - температура воды может превышать 100 градусов Цельсия, необходимо делать пролив для снижения температуры. В группу нужно вкручивать термометр для контроля температуры.

[@simpromovie]

Looks like you have about 11bar Brew Pressure on this machine which is much too high. You should correct it to 9bar....

[@skyking9248]

wrong. factory set to 12 bar to get 9 bar at grouphead.when the pressure is set to 12 bar its only 9 bar at the group head.

[@simpromovie]

@@skyking9248 The pressure is not different at the group head. I have a portafilter manometer at it shows exactly the same than the one on the machine itself….

[@skyking9248]

@@simpromovie i have a Bezzera Magica PID and its factory set to 12 bar. Maybe you should call Bezzera if you disagree. Hopefully you speak Italian.

[@fredericl6190]

At Whole latte love they have tested many machines and find in general a difference of one bar between the internal gauge near the pump and at the portafilter. Nice machine, with or without PID.