Bible Debate Turns into Flat Earth Debate

[@ElvisPresleyTouchedMe]

Lmao “Phaeron” is from Warhammer 40K 😂

[@ghurcbghurcb]

Eh, in some languages (french, for example) the word Pharaoh is pronounced as "Pharaon"

[@itspurle]

@@ghurcbghurcbexactly, and bro literally said he’s french. the guy has his own beliefs and believes in god and u can disagree if u want but u can’t discredit or make fun of him for making a mistake in his second language 😔🙏🏾

[@justterrible_9988]

​​​@@itspurlepretty sure they are just pointing out the way he pronounces the word sounds exactly like the name something of else also the debate would be 10x funnier if he was actually talking about the guy from Warhammer

[@Heikos006]

@@itspurle It would be easier for him to spread his bullshit, when he just use the name instead of the title in languages he doesn't speak.

[@davids11131113]

@@ghurcbghurcb Well this guy doesn’t sound French so I don’t know how that would be the explanation.

[@obsleet]

This guy sounds like his head hurts when he tries to think.

[@gryph01]

Thinking seems to be optional for some....

[@zachthehunter]

I can smell the smoke from here.

[@martin2289]

He also doesn't listen. Too busy vomiting up his ignorant garbage.

[@3122-t6h]

Or he just finished a couple of bowls of whatever.

[@stuartolive3600]

Should have told him to google the definition of scientific theory and saved 10 minutes of pain.

[@planetpeterson2824]

No it's so much more satisfying to prove to themselves that they don't believe what they're saying. The panic it creates is hilarious.

[@MileHighInTheSky]

@@planetpeterson2824yeah, but it took SOOOOOO long for him to understand what you were even saying 😂😂😂😂 It’s like teaching calculus to a hot dog.

[@HisZotness]

​@@MileHighInTheSkyDifferential or Integral?

[@ChickenHunter08]

@@MileHighInTheSkyit would have taken just as long either way. You have to get through the first health bar before they realize what an idiot they are.

[@eduardocorrochio208]

@@planetpeterson2824 at least stop using atomic theory and other theories to explain it. It goes in one ear and out the other becuase they don't understang these other theories. Use Music Theory instead. EVERYONE knows what music theory is. It's all the known FACTS we know of how music works. Then ask them if music is just a theory.

[@MileHighInTheSky]

This guest watched the movie starring Charlton Heston, and now he’s a biblical scholar. 😂😂

[@gryph01]

😂😂😂😂 My favourite is Mel Brooks aa Moses.... "I have 15 commandments" .... Tablet breaks.... "I have 10 commandments!"

[@nicholasbutner3039]

This conversation is another perfect example of how one sh***y idea leads to another. Mr. "Pharon" doesn't know how to think, so OF COURSE he believes the world is flat. He apparently subscribes to every Bronze Age misapprehension about reality. I can only imagine how terrifying he must find the sleight of hand at a magic show; that's some dark arts right there.

[@steveanton763]

Have you seen videos made by Christians who can't understand sleight of hand or misdirection claiming that magicians use demons to help them? They are hilarious 🤣

[@TheMadTurtle]

@@steveanton763 You mean like Pat Robinson?

[@Detson404]

How are these people able to work a phone?

[@martin2289]

Or dress themselves.

[@3122-t6h]

The Lord'eh' guides them.

[@dbt5224]

Book says thing. The ultimate theist argument.

[@nightlydrugs6927]

But in this case book didn’t even say thing. He didn’t even read book lol.

[@roccondil5]

This is literally the same as trying to have an argument with a 5 year old. Sweet Nonexisto! This is probably the stupidest guest you've ever entertained. Just imagine this very same conversation taking place at your breakfast table with your kid before he leaves for kindergarten.

[@Nubifier]

Another caller who says "right?" after so many sentences like he's never spoken to someone with an opinion different from his own.

[@martin2289]

It's such an annoying habit.

[@Draycko]

Holy shit, that pivot to flat earth was as sudden as it was amazing.

[@anthonyzav3769]

‘Phareon’ does have a cool ring to it. Maybe we should switch.

[@Salamander_falls]

I would say we should consult the Egyptian language about that, but since when do Christians pay any attention to biblical or historical sources?

[@cobalt4045]

I've seen flat Earth attach a lot of nonsequiturs in a desperate attempt to make their "theory" more believable, but the account of "Pharon" is definitely a new one. So, was Pharon conceived from dust and rib, too?

[@tjjones621]

Flatearth map reward now over $90M. Antarctica is optional. I wonder what's taking so long... Also, bible is a globe earth book, says so right inside...

[@gryph01]

Wait! Someone is offering $90 Million for a flat earth map? Who? I'm not a flerf, But I'll make one if someone will pay me $90 Million.... 😁

[@tjjones621]

@@gryph01 Go ahead, give it a try. I also have a $10,000 FlatAfrica flight chart reward... :)

[@tjjones621]

@@gryph01 Ok, give it a shot. The details are on my channel. I also have a $10,000 FlatAfrica flight chart reward. :)

[@scorptrio8231]

This caller represents the typical level of intelligence for theists.

[@martin2289]

They often bring to mind Monty Python's upper-class twits attempting to jump over a line of matchboxes.

[@3122-t6h]

They study the art of 'Fairy Telling.'

[@gryph01]

Is he saying Pharon instead of Pharoah? I looked it up and in French, Pharaoh is Pharaon

[@Jo-JoandTaffy]

Fay-Fay-Ron.

[@greenplasticmoose8843]

Sweet Sub Teacher reference 😂

[@HisZotness]

D-Nice!

[@grandvianna8551]

STOP😂😂😂😂😂

[@anarchords1905]

I spend a fair amount of time in both the apologetics and flat earth corners of the internet, and I can safely say, that was one of the most confused people I've ever heard. That was hilarious. Thank you.

[@heiyuall]

Guy had a typo in his script and couldn’t think without what was written down. Pharon sounds like a villain in an 80s B-movie.

[@DannyTruthMagnified]

😅

[@slim22rb]

Thanks for that, now my head hurts.

[@gryph01]

Peterson needs to add a "face palm protection required" disclaimer to his videos now.

[@IkarusKommt]

'Pharo' is a Greek rendition of the word, which is extended with -n- in oblique cases. Some language use that extended stem while borrowing the Greek words; hence 'Neron', etc.

[@tomroyca]

In Russian it is "Faraon"

[@tomroyca]

And in Hebrew it is "Paro"

[@ricktaylor14001]

These people who want to get into a debate and then proceed to pontificate without stopping and NEVER hear the words coming from the other person. People like him just annoy TF out of me, I could NOT waste 30 seconds on them!

[@doranku]

The least french frenchy i ever heard talk english!

[@gryph01]

He has a quirky French accent. I have a feeling that neither French nationals or Quebecois would understand him

[@doranku]

@@gryph01 I just wish my French coworkers could speak English this well. Sometimes I have no clue what they are trying to communicate.

[@gryph01]

@@doranku I have worked with both Nationals and Quebecois. All of them spoke English well enough. Sometimes it's how they "translate" French to English in their heads before speaking. I took Russian in high school and their English can be strange since Slavic language structure is very different than "Germanic" and Romantic structures

[@doranku]

@@gryph01 I joined a team that normally communicates in French. They literally have to switch to English just for me. Strangest is that they just assume I don't know any French, nobody ever asked, and I'm not going to correct them (while I can read it good enough to get the message, understanding speech is hard at normal speeds).

[@gryph01]

@@doranku Actually, If you are fleunt in English, you know 40,000 words in French

[@thanksalotAndy]

Let's argue something I haven't read properly.😂

[@ghurcbghurcb]

English is not the only language, mate

[@thanksalotAndy]

@@ghurcbghurcb no one said it was, the bible comes in many languages so what's your point?

[@mojomusica]

@@ghurcbghurcb Surely the Bible is the same in any language? though it would help the caller if he had read any of it AND understood it.

[@SteraFaux]

​@@mojomusicait surely isn't. It's a compilation of stolen stories from countless religions/cultures that are modified to fit the Christan fairy tales. It's been translated and retranslated so many times that it has lost a lot of the original meaning. There's 5000 different interpretations for the exact same verse, if they bother to even include it in the "new" version.

[@Mr_.G]

"Broken condom Prom baby" Duuuuude really 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@3122-t6h]

Keeps getting Pharaoh confused with whatever 'Pharon' is.

[@sinlatenightsins9657]

It's the upward inflections of this guest that make this an excruciating watch for me.

[@aaronlietz]

"I read it in this old book, therefore it must be true."

[@hjalmarolethorchristensen9761]

15:54 oooohh that poor littel abused kid,.... He dont know about his own religion....

[@BaronVonQuiply]

It's Perry **Ferrell** Moses was a big Janes Addiction / Porno For Pyros fan.

[@fyrmnjhn]

No No No... I'm rubber you are glue...lmao

[@Th3MrJ3st3r]

The Easter bunny isn't real IT IS, let me explain why

[@sidnusmagnus3144]

Eastern bunny was real but Lobo kill him. Or it was Santa Claus, i don't remember.

[@tsolum4126]

What is going on? A stream of consciousness? Does this dude think he's at a poetry slam in Amsterdam? Is the name of his performance, Farron? Throw down the mattresses and the bales of straw. He's gonna need a few layers to land in.

[@abeminslow4085]

Was that guest trolling, stoned, dealing with mental illness or all three. ?

[@mojomusica]

Yes. 😐

[@mustachemac5229]

I never really understood this idea of Harding the heart of the Pharaoh. Because if God has the ability to harden somebody's heart then he would definitely have the ability to soften somebody's heart. I just feel the latter would have been a better outcome. 🤷‍♂️

[@johnr3882]

It also shits all over their idea of free will

[@SteveLaw-UK]

"Free will" though. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@Ploskkky]

That guy is not even listening to what you are saying. He has little to no knowledge about the bible ether.

[@Lauren-zg9zo]

Why IS he saying Pharaon? I’ve never heard anyone pronounce it that way…with a letter that doesn’t exist in the word.

[@SiegahertzCarmin]

The guy is trying to say "pharaoh" But... with a weird french touch. In France it's Pharaon with the tipical "on" of the French. It's still weird how he says it.

[@studiooriginals]

Wait what was Moses trying to show Pharon? I can't recall. I wish he had repeated it a few more times.

[@SeanArchibeque]

wow is this wizard of oz?? "If I only had a brain"

[@madara211000]

Yet another Dunning Kruger proud in their ignorance. His cognitive dissonance is so strong. Are we sure he's not just trolling?

[@nicksykes4575]

If he was smart enough to troll, he'd be incapable of sounding soo dumb.

[@TheLevantin]

I would say that he is a troll, but a specific troll. I call such trolls "vampires" because they only troll to waste each other's time and energy. They don't listen, they're straw men, they repeat themselves, they talk in between, just to steal as much time and energy from the other person. They love to get other people to engage with them and steal their time. I once saw a very sad vampire who copied and pasted the same comment over and over again under a video, saying that someone else had to prove him, that he had a burden of proof when he claimed something. And he meant that all these cowardly atheists avoid him and run away from him because they can't prove that a "duty of proof" exists.

[@komradjay5738]

I can smell this guys brain overheating from here. Jesus.

[@briansilveira7323]

At what point is it just ableism to talk to these smooth brains?

[@corringhamdepot4434]

The whole Moses and Pharaoh legend was concocted to claim that our God is a bigger Bad Ass than your God. In a Bronze Age culture that believed in multiple gods. Taking their experience of local despotic rulers and dialling it up to 11.

[@hjalmarolethorchristensen9761]

19:03 i can listen to this arrogant littel kid anyone, i lose my Brian cells....

[@russellmyers934]

This caller has such a weird accent and cadence to his speaking. It's very distracting. Also, he's a babbler, a teller of stories. He's not really listening to you at all.

[@gryph01]

Je pense que c'était le vin qu'il buvait, non ?

[@russellmyers934]

@@gryph01 Quite possibly. How many glasses, do you think?

[@threetythreepercent]

“Hold on hold on…” caller needs everyone to slow down because his brain is running on a quarter of the speed of the rest of humanity.

[@DoctorX101]

The hamster in the wheel was getting tired.

[@jmirsp4z]

If gods exist then polytheism is more logical than just monotheism.

[@FlowerKimonoCaptain]

Solid knockout brother!

[@stephenbaugh2041]

Pharaoh was a god. Checkmate someone.

[@fyrmnjhn]

This is painful...

[@uncleanunicorn4571]

no corroboration of Moses or the Exodus from independent sources. You're basically arguing how much Hercules could bench-press.

[@porkramen]

Its infuriating to listen to these smoothbrains

[@johntrip07]

Who’s Farron?

[@O_l_i_v_e_n]

You are probably my fourth favorite person ever

[@lorddelanghe666]

No way guest has over 80 IQ. I feel bad picking in the poor guy.

[@jme92685]

I can see these conversations are painful. But without these idiots you wouldn’t have much of a show.

[@ronaldmccullough2399]

Next time you bring up theories to show the guest that they believe in them, try germ theory. That’s even more foundational to life.

[@DannyTruthMagnified]

True!!

[@jordanmoran916]

Claims the host believes in pseudo science, then proceeds to explain why magic is real.....

[@gryph01]

I wonder if this guy would be shocked when he finds out that Christianity adopted rites and rituals from other religions (Mithraism as an example)? Also, the early chruch also changed pagan gods to saints. The "Irish Saints" are a classic example.

[@grandvianna8551]

Yeah you know as well as I do that he wouldn't accept that😂😂😂

[@renacuajo4916]

Pharaon is Pharaoh in French

[@marcuswilliamsominuusambie8968]

Imagine not knowing the difference between scientific and colloquial theories in this, the year of our Lord Spanky, 2024?

[@nicholasbanton]

This dude is high... he has to be high, right? He's probably worthy of mockery but this debate breaks my heart. Nobody this young, in the western world, living in the 21st century, should be this intellectually lost.

[@hjalmarolethorchristensen9761]

6:22 hahahha we see proof of this.... hahahaah 😅😅😅

[@gox81]

its painful these guys cant think outside their own little box, its like a hamster on a wheel

[@lubrew5862]

For those that didn’t catch on, he is a POE.

[@martin2289]

Is he though? It's so hard to tell.

[@DoctorX101]

"Pharon?" 🤦‍♂

[@WordAte]

I have no problem with people believing what they want. I do have a problem with people confusing their beliefs with knowledge. "I believe in God. There is only one true God" are conflicting statements. One claims the speaker has a belief. The next claims that belief does not exist, rather it is knowledge.

[@lemmyhead8578]

Who the fuck is "Pharon"?

[@gryph01]

I looked it up. Pharoan is the French word for Pharoah. But even then, he still isn't pronouncing correctly

[@itspurle]

@@gryph01he’s pronouncing it in an english accent but it’s the same, he probably doesn’t realise it’s not the same word in fr and eng so just says it how he would think it’d sound

[@davids11131113]

I didn’t think Moses dealt with the Egyptians, maybe I’m wrong I don’t know.

[@williamcozart8158]

Pheron?

[@jaymikesmovienites3452]

I can’t with this. He’s not an anomaly.

[@ericazimmermann4918]

Oh he got big mad

[@_ben_sisko]

According to Christianity, believing in God, obeying His word, and following the teachings and examples of Jesus Christ should lead to a profound transformation. This transformation is expected to manifest in one’s character, behavior, and the display of various virtuous qualities as a result of having a relationship with God through Jesus and being filled with the Holy Spirit. However, in my experience, every time I engage in a debate with a Christian or any person of faith, I fail to perceive any evidence of such transformation. Their character, thoughts, behavior, and motivations, as inferred from their words, appear indistinguishable from those of non-believers. The complete absence of noticeable transformation leads me to question the authenticity of their beliefs. If their faith were indeed true, their lives would unmistakably reflect that truth. The lack of such evidence suggests that what they believe in is not true, and every argument they present to the contrary appears to be without merit, gibberish, bunkum and balderdash 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@demongoat]

Blow his mind by pointing out the Exodus never happened and was written about hundreds of years after the supposed time frame during the Babylonian exile.

[@davids11131113]

Well also Egypt is something like 100 miles from the Israelites final destination after set free, yet somehow took 40 years to get there. Another oddity.

[@commentary2378]

Why does literally every goddamn guest say the same braindead "theory not fact" hur dur bullshit

[@forever-raine]

hi peterson*, just wanted to let you know that when a polytheist culture only worships one, or that there is one supreme god, it is henotheistic.

[@johnr3882]

His name is Eric, his surname is Petersen

[@forever-raine]

@@johnr3882 haha right! mb

[@queuecee]

Who is this Faron that he keeps on talking about?🤔

[@kfsea]

wtf is a “pharon”

[@SeanArchibeque]

dude started as a strawman and devolved slowly into ad hominem meltdown lol

[@CascadeGamer]

This guys depiction of the exodus sounds more like a rough draft of the movie "the prince of egypt". The exodus makes it clear that the gods of Egypt have power and the god of Abraham wanted to demonstrate just how big his dick was. So the powers Moses demonstrated to Pharoah were countered by Pharoahs priests showing that the gods of Egypt existed and had power. The hardening of Pharoahs heart is a major blow to the idea that free will is granted by God because he blatantly violates it in order to demonstrate just how malicious and brutal he is. It had zero to do with Moses showing Pharoah he worshiped the true "living" god and had everything to do with it being a competition with the Egyptian gods in the narrative. What Christians don't realize is...the old testament admits theirs other gods...therefore it is polytheistic in nature. The god of Abraham also shows up as being a god in the canaanite pantheon. We know how these beliefs evolved to where they are today thus making them provably false.

[@eljay5746]

Who the f**k is Phaeron?

[@davids11131113]

Well the Bible says that god will demonstrate himself to be real if you have a pile of waterlogged wood and call on him, he will burst it into flames……for some reason this no longer works so either that god no longer exists or never did exist and is just stories in a book.

[@apocalypseL8r]

Leave him alone man he’s French!

[@bakyrdpro]

I dont know why you didn't just ask what a scientific theory is.

[@kaweckipiotr]

This one is slow

[@anlacombe]

omg this guy might be tripping

[@definatelyahuman3512]

This guy sounds drunk the entire time

[@SabracadabrO]

Yahweh’s Lioness

[@sixsixsixstring]

This guy can barely operate shampoo so how in the world does he have the nerve to debate in favor of religion?

[@ThatGuy-ot1gt]

I smell a troll.

[@dustinmorton942]

Moses never existed. You can’t write about your own death.

[@DoctorX101]

Maybe he was dictating? 😜

[@Breakintoblossom]

This dude is not French

[@doranku]

POE/troll, no flerf knows the word hypothesis.

[@Dalien7thDayRec]

The Earth IS flat. And God is real