Muslim Flat Earther Debate

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[@Gdwmartin]

This guy is so deep in his belief he can't possibly accept that he is wrong.

[@Eraser18574]

He can’t accept that the Quran is full of errors.

[@drmantistoboggan2870]

He didnt even know that pee is stored in the balls!

[@gowdsake7103]

Delusion is a better word

[@Virtualblueart]

​@drmantistoboggan2870 And sperm is generated somewhere in the rib area.

[@gowdsake7103]

@@drmantistoboggan2870 pee is stored in balls? Honestly

[@ZackBurnsOG]

"He's my prophet more." I spit my drink out IRL

[@Jt-oj8mk]

31:05 hilarious

[@incomingincoming1133]

Near 1:37 when he asks: "why do you believe that?" and the reply was: "because that is a statement that was made", the debate was really over.

[@Sparkydr07]

Ok this guy does not speak for the UK!!! We don't call fertiliser and pesticides the same thing !!!

[@fangirl988]

I’m from the uk and I was like what the hell is this guy talking about lol

[@johnr3882]

I'm from the UK too and he is talking utter garbage to avoid admitting he got things wrong. He also talked about allotments as if they're something new. They aren't, they have been around for centuries. They became very popular during lock down when people wanted to get outside and grow their own food, so waiting lists for an allotment grew enormously. But they've always been popular.

[@WhoThisMonkey]

He gets to vote in the UK too, and unfortunately this is the educational level of the majority of British Muslims. Simply because their family and peers are so dead set on segregation.

[@SteveLaw-UK]

​@@johnr3882the first mention of allotments was during the 1500s under Elizabeth I.

[@bexhand2968]

Fertiliser and pesticide are not interchangeable terms in the uk. Thousands of people in the uk with individual allotments use fertiliser and pesticide.

[@Abeleko]

Yeah I’m from the US and I knew he was full of it when he said it. The default for Muslim apologists is lying.

[@Bunny99s]

They are almost opposites :D A fertilizer should help things grow by providing necessary substances to the plant so it grows better. Pesticides are substances that kill unwanted "pests". So they do the opposite. They may be weedkiller which activly kills plants, though hopefully targeted at the thing you want to get rid of. Also a lot "claim" they do not use "fertilizers" and only mean industrial grade fertilizer. They may use more natural occuring fertilizer. Since such people are simply anti-science / anti-"chemical" they just don't call it fertilizer even though it's just a fertilizer. They also come up with ad-hoc reasons and vage explanations why the "natural" fertilizers are "better".

[@MissionControl-dk]

This is what happens when religion has been screamed into the ears of person from early childhood. The delusion has become solidified.

[@fletch0t]

Only just watching this one for the first time: we do not use fertiliser/pesticides interchangeably in the UK. He lied right there.

[@AlexPBenton]

The mitochondrial Eve is not the first woman, it’s the last universal female ancestor among humans. Imagine if everyone but your extended family died, your grandmother would be the new mitochondrial Eve.

[@emmacheng6213]

It’s scary that there are people out there that actually think this way

[@jordanmoran916]

These people are nothing short of crazy.. Do they even hear what they are saying?

[@ZackBurnsOG]

"Adam and eve had graves and clothes. And I've seen them." OMFG this guy is a joke, a laughable joke.

[@ThatGuy-ot1gt]

Ever get the impression that these people just haven't discovered LARPing yet? Wow. This guy sure can stretch.

[@louseveryann2181]

Basically his "argument" is "I don't like the scientific explanation, therefore I'm going with my favourite fan fiction."

[@kylejensenmma1994]

These KZbin uploads are the shit 👌 👏 🔥 I didn't catch this one on Tiktok

[@MileHighInTheSky]

Right?? I always catch the tail end of these, if at all. He always uploads the best. But from what I’ve seen of his lives, they’re all upload-worthy. 😂😂😂

[@ianchisholm5756]

'Give me evidence that semen comes from the spine.' 'Well, you know when Jesus came down...'

[@Woodwork-Learner]

Only got half but getting the opinion that he believes literally in his book even when it doesn't match reality. This is the same type of belief as terrorists.

[@M3g4UBERn00b]

We absolutely do NOT use pesticide and fertilizer to mean the same thing in the UK

[@ricktaylor4real]

I have never heard someone backpedal SO MUCH and so often! Wow. How can a person, with a brain, remain on their BELIEFS so vehemently that they will literally try making their point by saying “he’s my Solomon more”??! 🤷‍♂️ He was shot down so many times, you could hear him struggle! 🤷‍♂️🤣

[@gowdsake7103]

Because he can have belief with no thought or evidence

[@MileHighInTheSky]

His entire debate was based on a circular argument.

[@7antonio9]

I almost feel sad for the guy.

[@WilbertLek]

I don't, at all.

[@7antonio9]

@@WilbertLek Why?

[@WilbertLek]

@@7antonio9 He is deliberately actively denying reality in a country that offers every opportunity to get educated. Even the recalcitrant teenage edgelord young Earth "muslims" laugh at these people. The hypocrites...

[@7antonio9]

@@WilbertLek Ah I see.

[@WhoThisMonkey]

I have been suffering such people for far too long, it's just disgust at this point. Disgust and contempt.

[@jim7831]

Being from the UK, I'm ashamed that this man is British

[@WilbertLek]

Don't worry, he only SOUNDS British.

[@gowdsake7103]

He may live here but he isnt

[@mrjrountree]

In the UK we most definitely do not use fertilizer and pesticides as the same thing

[@seraphinaaizen6278]

When someone's starting point is: "I believe everything the Quran says (but only when it's convenient) and I will reject anything that contradicts my interpretation", there is no conversation to be had. Also, in the UK, we DO NOT use the words "fertilizer" and "pesticide" interchangeably. This man lied. And he lied because he realized he misspoke, but was too arrogant to admit it. So he lied instead.

[@wasssyup]

He lied, trued to evade, backpeddeled and projected the whole time.

[@MightyMattTM]

Some Muslim he is, not saying “Peace be upon him” any time he utters the name of his most important prophets.

[@WhoThisMonkey]

Police be upon him

[@evolutionaryadvantage]

@@WhoThisMonkey 😂

[@roomtemperaturecv313]

Debating intellectually dishonest/people who can’t wrap their head around someone else’s points bc it’s literally impossible to get them to understand what you are trying to say😭

[@Ihybluskii]

i like how he said he doesn't want to get into religion then proceeds to use religion to "back up" basically everything he says

[@-gearsgarage-]

This was tragic, and heart breaking to listen to.

[@bllla]

This is cognitive bias on easy mode.

[@anotherwolff3650]

Flatearth and Religion: i call it doubledumb.😅😂

[@justinwatson1510]

If you add enough water to a star, you will get a supernova and a whole bunch of different elements to make bones.

[@TheUltrahypnotoad]

Stars go supernova when they run out of fuel. Dropping water into a star would provide more fuel, delaying the supernova.

[@bengreen171]

for future reference, you should look up muslim astronomy - there were scholars who did actually make very good observations of space and derived heliocentric hypotheses from them. But thanks to their commitments to their Islamic faith, they rejected their own empirical observations, because they contradicted the geocentric model as given by the Quran.

[@stroudonfire]

came here looking for this! its ironic how little this guy seemed to know about the ridiculously important contributions of islamic scholars to math and science

[@bengreen171]

@@stroudonfire Islamic society is very good at shutting down anything that doesn't comport with Quranic teaching. It's not surprising that this flat earther guy isn't aware of what the early Muslim scholars actually did, because they were beginning to find out things about reality that disproved the Quran. The real irony is that when Muslims debate Christians, or 'westerners' in general, they often appeal to the Golden Age of Islamic scholarship as some sort of point to show how advanced Islam was in the early Medieval period.

[@MiserableMuon]

Theism is one hell of a drug.

[@ricktaylor4real]

His advice about “not attacking people who come on”, is actually good advice. From my observations, Peterson does not “attack” those who call in…. I’d have to say they generally attack first, and more often. Anyone who calls in needs to do so with a goal of “FRIENDLY discourse”, but many come in already being combative and ready to fight, and the worst part is they come in wanting to raise their voices over his to be louder and talk over Peterson. That is NOT the way to debate. I think where people may get the idea that he “attacks” them is because he doesn’t let them ramble on into 40 million different topics, accusations, factually incorrect statements, and in many cases, utter nonsense. Really, he needs to cut those people off MORE than he does now, not less. From a viewer/listener standpoint, it is horrible to experience bitchy arguments like that; it is like listening to a bunch of 10 year old girls fighting. Peterson, you need a rule…. one FIRMLY stated rule. One that is FIRMLY & consistently enforced, it is this: “You do NOT over-talk the host”. Period. If you do, you are immediately muted…. IMMEDIATELY! Then you are given one more chance, one more warning; if you need to be muted a 2nd time, expect to be booted from the show. And… there will be NO “but you cut me off”, or “you’re over talking me” arguments back on this. The answer will always be “YES I did, I’m the host and you need to respect the host and MY platform”. Period. I’m running a show, and if I feel the need to cut you off, over talk you, or mute you, that’s OKAY… it’s my show and it WILL stay on the topic, and in the format, that I chose. If you want to do it the other way…. you are free to go start your show and run it any way you want. Period. Just my thoughts. 🤠☮️

[@r3apah]

this is censorship over a debate. he lwts them talk over him, the more they speak, the bigger hole they dig.

[@gryph01]

"The sun and the moon woll be joined up" so, an eclipse?

[@ZackBurnsOG]

38:35 No, you absolutely did not see any modern day scientific data that said sperm comes from the ribs in the past 20 years. I thought your book taught that lying was a sin? Maybe I'm wrong, I don't know as much about the Quran as I do the Bible, but I guess it would make sense that the Quran wouldn't view lying as a sin.

[@bokoura]

On the contrary, lying for the sake of Islam is actually allowed and encouraged in Islam. It's called _taqiyya._

[@ZackBurnsOG]

@@bokoura wow. didnt know that. thank you for letting me know.

[@Virtualblueart]

That "rosy explosion" quote is probably a poetic way to describe a sunset or dawn in a desert area. Maybe they had a rare weather phenomena and thought it a miracle

[@z08840]

the most terrifying thing in all of this is that phrase by a muslim "we in UK..."

[@ThatGuy-ot1gt]

If I'm not mistaken, the importance of the Goldilocks zone is that water can exist in 3 states. Solid, liquid, gas. Could life have developed with only liquid water? I dunno.. Maybe? I'm just a layman.

[@zoeherriot]

That is the point - but his point is that the Goldilocks zone is so small that it had to be intentional. Which is wrong because the earth moves in and out of their usual stated range with no problems every year. But most importantly, they get it backwards. We are simply the life that arose from the given conditions, so of course we’ve adapted to a fairly narrow band of conditions.

[@MaximusSilentium]

he said un the uk we use them to mean the same thing. im from the uk. im 57. theyve never been the same thing. they are the same as planet discribes them a pesticide removes insects that feed on the produce. a fertilizer goes in the earth and is used and is a nutrient. once again he despereratly denys being wrong everytime

[@sinlatenightsins9657]

can someone confirm if in the UK people use the word fertiliser to mean pesticides? I don't think that's right

[@Dr.Ian-Plect]

Absolutely not.

[@johnferry7778]

Completely wrong.

[@WetDoggo]

1:06:45 he's literally lying by saying the word fertiliser is used to mean fertilizer and insecticide in Britain... Just to not have to own his mistake of being uneducated. I've never heard of that before, feel free to correct me if I'm uneducated and wrong 😂

[@kevinsisler9379]

Leaves exist, therefore underwear used to grow on trees for Adam and Eve.

[@epictotallyoriginalhandle]

Wasn’t this supposed to be a flat earth debate????

[@jeremyarcus-goldberg9543]

Who is this caller? The video just starts and I don’t know what’s going on. I think you are getting picked up bigger by KZbin’s algorithm. Please adjust your opening of the video or in the description or a pinned comment to explain.

[@stopfaking]

In my experience, 99% of people who claim to have read the Bible, Quran, Torah, etc. cover to cover in a debate are either full of shit or can't articulate the book in any coherent way because they skimmed it worse than cliff notes.

[@andreasplosky8516]

You destroyed him in the first few seconds. Basically, he was done after the "water" thing. After that, it only went down hill. Very rapidly. This poor guy is completely off his rocker.

[@alexritchie4586]

Sorry for exporting to you the world's worst Muslim apologists, - Britain

[@AECRADIO1]

The Earth is NOT A DAMN SNOWGLOBE!

[@GeistView]

Just ask him where the Sun sets.

[@AECRADIO1]

RADAR SIGNALS CONVERT TO DIAL-UP MODEM SIGNALS...WHAT? HAKEEM, PLEASE GO BACK TO SCHOOL, A REAL SCHOOL!

[@TreyM1609]

I’m gonna go out on a limb without watching it and say his argument of the earth being flat is wrong. Ok I’ll watch the “debate” now

[@JeffreyBoser]

I swear Muslim high school must be just classes about throwing recycled crap on the wall.

[@AECRADIO1]

There are mirrors on the surface of the moon, to track its actual distance from the earth. It is slowly moving away from us.

[@Virtualblueart]

And can anyone blame it?

[@stefanhuber7357]

"HE WAS MY PROPHET MORE" - Apologist who can't share.

[@psychicvoid3512]

There's absolutely no way this guy just tried to justify the taliban and call them teachers, that's insane, makes us UK lot look awful

[@alexbabyfella3750]

Love these videos but they should be called Educated Person vs Morons from around the world

[@TypicalEveningPictures]

Wait but in a weird way the statement is true. Every living thing came from water…like that’s evolution. He seems to have understood is as everything is made of water. The sun and moon being joined up could be an eclipse…but he just took it all super literal😂

[@bigbellyburger1786]

That’s not what evolution is.

[@TreyM1609]

He said the thing!!!! “ life finds a way!!” He said it!! Sorry I get tired of these debates because the religious people hardly ever make any argument. So I apologize

[@Skaarymeh]

Wait till Riz has Ramadan then he's a glober 😂😂😂

[@magnuscolable]

"P"tolemy

[@AECRADIO1]

Heliocentricity is fact, long proven.

[@mysteryfoood3509]

Lmao Adam and eves clothes

[@JohnnyD_cm]

He is just another prime example of why you should stay in school.

[@whatkast]

Oh my word, that’s Riz, I debated him the other day, he’s a total liar 😂

[@drg8687]

"Whether the world is a sphere or not doesn't really matter in people's lives." Don't introduce this man to airplane pilots.

[@Virtualblueart]

Fertiliser and pesticide never meant the same thing. He is so confused, mixing in pollinators and pest control via natural enemies into one weird ball.

[@CeezGeez]

wait he's muslim but doesn't know suni and shia?

[@skittleskidofsolaire7241]

Indoctrination at its best with this guest.

[@hjalmarolethorchristensen9761]

22:41 i have a question...if Adam and Eve is the first 2 people and they have 3 sons...how did humanity evolved from them??....insest?

[@CeezGeez]

is this an Ali G skit? if so, respecc innit!

[@rpow6861]

WOW!! WOW!! WOW!! and again WOW!!!! this is the craziest shite i've ever heard. just embarrassing.

[@jamesnewman8011]

This shit is sad af.

[@GenXwarrior]

I agree with everything you say until you come to the flat earth

[@MaximusSilentium]

quran is packed with claims of a flat earth. infact 7 stacked flat earths with 7 solid firmament domes that expand outwards from earth.all held up on earth by 3 invisible pillars

[@Dennistube001]

how can people become so utterly stupid. simple, just believe the quran

[@doranku]

I really really hope this is just a Poe.

[@AECRADIO1]

Muslim big bang, was a traffic crash of chariots... That would be as crazy as claiming sea monsters ate ships.

[@bingethinker791]

Adam and Eve’s graves? 🤣🤣🤣🤡🤡🤡

[@reluctantheist5224]

Isn't this Witsit Getsit?

[@johnferry7778]

No, Witsit is an American, this half sharp is from the U.K.

[@pottymouthmexican]

debate nathan oakley next.

[@Slum0vsky]

Good luck getting Jokeley out of his echo chamber, he never debated anyone without his mute button in his hand.

[@WilbertLek]

Why? He's a complete and utter con. Just like Hovind.

[@Edward-bm7vw]

Nathan will never debate anyone without abusing mutes and shouting over people. He's a muppet

[@pottymouthmexican]

@@Edward-bm7vw incorrect

[@Edward-bm7vw]

@@pottymouthmexican Nathan literally does it every single day. Anybody that tries to answer his questions or produce a model will result in him muting and shouting.

[@EddyBombay]

Patolomee lol

[@sinlatenightsins9657]

34:12 for the immature among us

[@bethhoyle3033]

Tan?!

[@Thisman67]

cat

[@mathieuidir2886]

Two against one and they never let him finish one explanation.

[@troelsvestergaard6644]

2 against half a brain.

[@mathieuidir2886]

@@troelsvestergaard6644 2 empties brains VS half brain, I agree

[@troelsvestergaard6644]

@@mathieuidir2886 Sure🙂 science is a bitch😜

[@bratboy5203]

Finish what, a statement of complete stupidity?

[@WilbertLek]

@@mathieuidir2886 Thank you for demonstrating why we should never take young flat Earth creationists seriously.

[@true-eather]

3 2 1... A triggered glerf.

[@WilbertLek]

Are you really this sad and pathetic?

[@WilbertLek]

@@true-eather Thank you for exposing your true colors, flat Earther.

[@WilbertLek]

@@true-eather Of course you did, asylum escapee.

[@WilbertLek]

And you managed to escape by riding how many cannonballs?...

[@true-eather]

@@WilbertLek 🥱

[@mathieuidir2886]

Stop losing time and debate Eric Dubay. He would finish you in less than a hour.

[@Slum0vsky]

The guy whose 'proofs' got lolled at for years? Sure. He'd need more than a hour to explain why he lied so much in those proofs.

[@mathieuidir2886]

@@Slum0vsky The guy who Neil the Grass Tyson refuses to debate with...

[@johanahonen8627]

@@mathieuidir2886 why the fuck would anyone debate that idiot...

[@mathieuidir2886]

@@johanahonen8627 Bla bla bla! Speaking is easy...

[@cwack12]

Hahaha how by showing a bunch of memes?

[@guitarista67]

“I’ll have a Djinn and tonic.”

[@Dennistube001]

"“I’ll have a Djinn and tonic.”" thats why strong alcohols are called spirits

[@AECRADIO1]

THE EARTH ORBITS THE SUN, HAKEEM AL BRAINDEADICUS!

[@AECRADIO1]

Humanity will not survive if it is kept depressed and ignorant.

[@AECRADIO1]

Why does religion demand a judgment day?

[@Virtualblueart]

Gotta keep the followers in line by suggesting the world can end any day and they better believe or else. That's my best guess.

[@CeezGeez]

god has to kill something because.... reasons and things. you're thinking too hard about it.