Destroying Flat Earth Clown

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[@Hunt8rJob]

A flat earther saying 'let's get back to the science' is the most ironic thing I've heard all week 🤣😂

[@stephenluttrell8958]

“I don’t appeal to authority,,” says the Flerf, then proceeds to read verbatim a script he got from some other Flerf’s KZbin video.

[@fjoell]

I was about to say for someone who "is not a flat earther, just not sure about the shape" his arguments sound a lot (and by a lot I just want to leave some wiggle room because it's basically 100%) like every flat earther's talking points ever

[@aznmutt15]

The dunning Krueger is amazing with this guy

[@flapjackboy]

The 1st rule of Dunning-Kruger Club is you don't know you're in Dunning-Kruger Club.

[@Scrapla1]

This guy was the real life example of "trust me bro Ive watched videos about this".

[@johntrip07]

Some of the biggest liars are morninc flat eatrthers.

[@johntrip07]

The wise man is always in doubt and the fool is just soooo damn sure of himself. Because they're always In such need to feel smarter than others, they'll just deny any and all actual facts.

[@ricktaylor4real]

BINGO!! You’ve hit it perfectly!!! I can’t stand listening to them, as I get older I have no patience for pontificating morons! 😂😜👍🏼

[@brothergrief9531]

Gotta lie to flerf.

[@Scrapla1]

This took two seconds "Ptolemy argued that the Earth was a sphere in the center of the universe, from the simple observation that half the stars were above the horizon and half were below the horizon at any time (stars on rotating stellar sphere)"

[@marcosalejandro8565]

I'm 100% sure that his sources were blog posts by other flat earthers

[@turboguppy3748]

Airline pilot here. One can observe left to right curvature on a clear day at altitudes as low as 10,000 ft above sea level. All you need is a window, an unobstructed view to the horizon (clear air), and a straight edge of some sort. A smooth ride is also important, so you can line the straight edge up. Once you do it's pretty easy to see the very slight amount of curve if you try to hold a line along the horizon with the straight edge. You can keep the corners on the horizon, but the middle will always bulge slightly from your straight edge. Higher is obviously better, but I've definitely managed to detect the curve as low as 10,000 ft. The first time I saw it this way was from 35,000 ft. I always make a point of demonstrating this to anyone I'm flying with when the seeing conditions are good enough. Edit: spelling

[@AnthonyValcic]

I often wonder why it is repeated in so many of these discussions that you need to be above 120k feet or something like that to even see it. It was super obvious to me at 39k feet on a recent flight I was on. I took a few photos but forgot that I should take 3 -high middle low- just to compare barrel distortion. I'll remember next time. Anyway IF there was significant barrel distortion, where I shot the horizon on the lower 1/2 of the shot, it would have tended to straighten out the curve of the earth. (iPhone 13 regular, not wide angle) it was right there to see (and matched what I saw with my eyes)

[@Splattervision-qh1sd]

Wait, you aren’t going to mention that you have to constantly “push the nose down” to follow Earth’s curvature and not fly off into space? 😆 kidding

[@turboguppy3748]

@@AnthonyValcic I've heard the complaint about the windows bulge out when the airplane is pressurized, making the window like a fish eye lens!" lol The roads on the ground are typically pretty straight, and if you find a place where the roads go for 20 miles or so with engineered, surveyed precision, you can easily tell that the windows don't, in fact, "create" a curve. Flerfy nonsense is so easy to debunk simply by looking out a window it's amazing to me that they continue to insist that "Just use your eyeballs" is some kind of valid argument.

[@turboguppy3748]

@@Splattervision-qh1sd I wrote a whole post on this a while back. While the nose of the airplane does, in fact, "drop" to compensate for the curve, the rate is about one degree per 60 nautical miles. Not exactly a roller coaster. The flerfs lost their shit because the math was so easy and quickly debunked their nonsense. I'm obviously a NASA shill. Or Satan. Not sure if they meant one or the other or both. What's really happening is that the airplane is holding a pressure level (altitude) dynamically, and one of the dynamic forces is the slowly shifting center of gravity of the Earth. So as the direction down changes, the nose automatically compensates as the airplane holds altitude (by autopilot, awesome pilot, or simply trim). Flerfs seem to think the Earth, by relative size, is really is about the size of a stress ball while airplanes are as big as whatever toy they've found, so roughly as big as Florida. So sure I'll mention it... And then show flerfs how stupid easy it is to do some simple junior high level cal-ka-laytin.

[@IceWing2002]

"History is a lie so your evidence is false but let me tell you about the model of the earth people used in the past."... Really?!

[@kwood55]

The Flat-earther creed: we are stupid and we are committed to our stupidity.

[@JohnnyD_cm]

Flerfs and maths don't mix. Even the most basic maths confuses them. Angles just blow their minds.

[@marasmusine]

Even Peterson's diagram of a triangle is dismissed as a "cartoon". I don't think these people are incapable of maths, they aren't stupid. It's just that their ideology is so broken that the cognitive dissonence must be overwhelming.

[@yourguard4]

@@marasmusine You don't need to be stupid to not understand maths. There are smart people, who can't even read the clock, just because their brain is bad with numbers (dyscalculia).

[@rmelzhim6033]

Thank you for putting up with these dishonest cowards. When you put up those pictures towards the end I couldn't stop laughing.

[@marasmusine]

I'd love to see some flat earther programmers make a SpaceEngine type simulation, and have them try and reconcile all our observations. In SpaceEngine you can put the camera on Earth, speed up time, and see the stars rotate in one direction in the north hemisphere, the other direction on the south hemisphere, and see where the sun is at different times of the year. C'mon flat earthers, let's see your model!

[@Splattervision-qh1sd]

There’s a physicist, Bruce Sherwood, who built a 3D computer model using FE claims. It’s hilarious, nothing works right; the sun changes angular size by over a factor of 2 throughout the day, the stars follow a weird, elliptical path, etc. If these clowns actually had to live in their bs world it would be an apocalyptic nightmare as sun and moon would have to break the sound barrier, sonic booms reverberating off their stupid dome 24/7 😂

[@TypicalEveningPictures]

I think it’s wild that these guys are on a cell phone talking to you and don’t realize that if the earth wasn’t round then none of the physics required to make that device function would make sense either

[@henzik]

"I would disagree with that"....next day he is using GPS to navigate to his next FLERF society meeting.

[@doranku]

The 5 Ds of this flerf: -divert -divert -divert -divert -divert

[@marcosalejandro8565]

I love how whenever he has no argument he just references convergence, reminds me of religion

[@jamesgalliher4640]

Strong agree-sovereign citizens are terrifying

[@Scrapla1]

Those morons can turn a simple traffic stop and ticket into a first degree felony.

[@eleventhchimp]

The weird thing is they not only think they are not sub-normal, they think they are smart. One would think that every day challenges would make the fact of the matter obvious for them.

[@thoracis]

Bro can just make cricket noises

[@seraphinaaizen6278]

There are two constants about flat earthers: 1) They will always be completely ignorant and lack even a high school level understanding of every single subject they discuss. 2) They will always be under a narcissistic delusion that they are the best educated expert on everything, ever.

[@guitarista67]

Narcissism seems to accompany their idiocy. MC Toon made a video about it. 👍

[@seraphinaaizen6278]

@@guitarista67 Another thing that's common to them. They will say something that is clearly and demonstrably false, and when you point out to them how trivial it is to prove that it's false, they will whine about how you're "not being respectful". And wax lyrical about how "respectful" they're being (even when they're not).

[@aznmutt15]

Let's bring up someone and ignore the fact that they believed in a spherical earth and only focus on the geocentric part

[@robertfreestone414]

Strictly speaking, a "debate" between a normal person/global vs. a flatearther is really a science-based intervention because it's always a teaching session for flatearthers.

[@robertfreestone414]

Sorry:"global" should be "glober".

[@BinomialBiped]

Ahhhh yes, that’s Chris Vanam. He’s the wish version of Witsit.

[@wessla]

Oh thought it was Derrick. Flerfs are really just bad copies of each others lmao

[@ZodzillaPrime]

Ohh is that who this is? I thought he was familiar.

[@ianchisholm5756]

Wow. Even saying 'carbon dioxide' is virtue signalling these days.

[@AutoRoll-jv2tq]

its virtue signaling to say the sky is blue you woke science SJW LGBTQ+ activist

[@willterry9551]

It’s like he thinks if he’s polite you’d just let him get away with lying lmfao

[@jonc1733]

Flerfs have never been able to explain why "atmospheric conditions" hide a portion of an object. They just say it and never explain

[@FrikInCasualMode]

You don't need a PhD. What you need is the scientific approach to the world. First - you observe. Second - you try to find explanation for what you see. Third - you make sure your explanations are true by making more observations. You don't say - "I don't know that shape Earth is, but it's not a sphere."

[@apedley]

If I remember from my uni days, (Studying Geography with several Climatology modules) Chi Squared is the statistical analysis you do at the end. You're looking for an N95 certainty. That means that the chance that your null hypothesis is correct is 0.05%. We also used the Student's T test. It's not something you manually work out yourself. You enter all the data into a statistical prog like Minitab and let that do the calculations. Essentially you're working out the strength of correlation of your data to the data you would expect to see if your null hypothesis was true. It's one of the great things about science. You choose a version of the question that you try to prove right, and you fail to prove it. Such as "There is no statistical relationship between human CO2 output and increase in Global temps" You then run your experiments/ analysis and establish that the chance that statement is true is 0.05% (and that the results are statistically significant and could not have occurred by chance). You have therefore opened up routes for further investigation because there IS a statistical relationship by failing to prove that there isn't. Happy to be corrected on any of that - it is like 20 years since I graduated and I haven't been in the field for a long time.

[@madara211000]

"Hmm, I would disagree with that." And then proceeds to not explain why, typical flerfs. Just deny, deny, deny. That, and he keeps rambling on with a script in order to act like he's saying something intelligent.

[@jonc1733]

Blah blah blah "converging" blah blah blah "atmospheric conditions" blah blah blah "don't trust "them""

[@moorejim13]

This is how you can tell a flat earther doesn’t understand or care that they are wrong they always bring up perspective not realizing that perspective doesn’t matter cuz even if your not there the curve still will be. In a sense they don’t want to believe they don’t matter even though everything in their life points to the contrary so they have to find something to make themselves feel important or better than others

[@ZodzillaPrime]

This guy avoiding what a convergence rate is was the funniest thing I've seen in a long time.

[@AlexPBenton]

Here’s the problem with flat earth “perspective”: Parallel lines converge, but never cross. The ocean (supposedly a flat plane according to flat earthers) is parallel to our sight line to whatever object we’re looking at straight ahead of us. The water covers the object from the bottom up, showing that those supposedly parallel lines cross, meaning that one of those lines is not straight

[@lostheart8092]

When ever a flerfer ask if there are pictures of the globe, I always ask, is there pictures of the disc? How do you know it isn’t cubed and that’s why there’s an ice wall?

[@markhellman-pn3hn]

YOU CAN'T WIN AN ARGUMENT WITH A LIAR !!

[@jaymikesmovienites3452]

I love when they learn to pronounce new words. They use them all the time.

[@stuartolive3600]

He's one of these "elevation angles requite a flat earth" guys. So so bad.

[@andyh3065]

I honestly don’t know how you can do this time and time again with idiots like this and maintain your sanity. I tip my hat to you good sir.

[@ZackBurnsOG]

That's cute. He's doing basic algebra and you're doing trig. Aren't FLERFs just the cutest

[@williamcozart8158]

Did this guy call Ptolemy ptolygamy?

[@davek00]

Yes, yes he did.

[@ziploc2000]

The Flatard cannot accept the simple and obvious explanation for the pictures of the drilling rigs and the wind turbines. The bottoms are obscured by something between us and them - what can it be? The sea: there's nothing else there. The further away ones are obscured more, why? Because they are lower down from our point of view. But the bottoms are all at sea level, so how can they be lower down ? Sea level curves with the surface of the globe. We can get into more fine detail about the exact size and distance of the objects, and atmospheric refraction, and how differences in the density of the medium through which light is travelling from the object to our eyes (i.e. atmospheric distortion) can distort the image we see, but until they can grasp the absolute basics, there's no point in having that conversation.

[@Simeon_Harris]

the real nail in the coffin though, is we can predict exactly how much each turbine will be obscured and it will match reality. our models of the earth and the atmosphere are so fine tuned now, that they are devastatingly accurate. even walter bislin's earth curve calculator pretty much nails it every time.

[@davidbernard5994]

Ok, so walk towards the horizon, you never reach it. So, there's two assumptions that can be made. A) The earth is infinite (which would mean it's infinite in mass which causes all kinds of problems. Or B) it is a sphere

[@flapjackboy]

The only dense medium I see here is this guy's skull.

[@adriannabcustomfurniture]

This dude. I swear. Why are all these callers so condescending and so confident. Didn't he just say, "this is your channels" then he says, "impulse control dude. Let me talk" and his "let's just have an intellectual conversation". 🤦‍♀️ These ignorant people always think they are right. Every. Single. Time. Also, they don't like science but want to use it when it fits their idea. They don't like how "they" (REAL SCIENTISTS) can interject their "opinion" or "personal emotional yada yada" but when you use math (not personal), they disagree and say no. 🤦‍♀️🤷‍♀️ People like this dude don't want to learn anything and arguing with them is such a waste of time.

[@madmantv704]

Eratosthenes literally solved for the circumference of the earth lmao

[@CommentBanana]

4:26 this is a logical fallacy. you are creating a false dilemma by assuming that due to him not knowing about a chi-square analysis must mean he is unable to interpret any data, or as you related to it, being able to "tell people what to believe in."

[@diogeneslamp8004]

If we’re being generous, he’s using it as a diagnostic.

[@mymumbakescakes]

Now the ending was so funny. Well done. Flerfs are full of BS.

[@emuman09]

" i could show you 12 different references" sure thing kiddo. Ya didn't though did ya

[@TedronaiElanMorin]

dude how can you keep this calm?

[@srStinnky]

I wonder why airplanes do not disappear from the bottom up as they fly further away.

[@brettvv7475]

Sure they do

[@AGoodBuzz]

When you can't prove a point, seek to discredit the other.

[@apinkandblueshark]

Just popping in to say anarchism and democracy are not mutually exclusive, in fact i believe they go hand in hand.

[@randyheiser5367]

I like to see him debate Witsit if he hasn't already.

[@machinebeard1639]

This guy is just as bad as the flerf. When he isn't interrupting like a child, he's completely disingenuous.

[@yourguard4]

Did he just called the polar coordinate system on our planet a "cartesian" coordinate system? (19:23)

[@Krueger444]

having actually been to lake ontario and actually seen the curvature as it obscures the other side of the lake... idk what his point is

[@IMightBGiants]

Forget the windmills. Just ask any flat earther if he can see Burj Khalifa in Dubai. UAE, Merdeka in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, Shanghai Tower in Shanghai, Abraj Al-Bait Clock Tower in Mecca, Ping an International Finance Centre in Shenzhenn Lotte World Towe in Seoul, One World Trade Center in New York City, and Guangzhou CTF Finance Center in Guangzhou from where he is standing right now. Those are the 8 tallest buildings in the world. If you were standing on a flat plane, you should be able to see ALL of them, no matter where you are. Either that, or you should be able to see the mouintains that are blocking your view of them. If you can't see all of these buildings, OR the mountains that are taller than them and block their view, then the only possible answer is that you're standing on a sphere.

[@AGoodBuzz]

"Stop interrupting me" says the guy who continually interrupts and keeps babbling whenever the host attempts to respond to anything he says.

[@TypicalEveningPictures]

As a VFX artist I can say with 100% certainty you cannot make that photo of the earth with paper mache

[@JB_inks]

He thinks wind turbines are windmills

[@John3Jones]

How do you keep your cool with these people??

[@Astralmess]

God I hate this fake respectfulness.

[@MightyMattTM]

I would love to have a plate of this guy’s word salad. Seems like if I ate it, it would make me more ignorant of science, and they say ignorance is bliss.

[@derrickminion9874]

As soon as he said "They believe" . I understood he believes every geologist across the world is lying

[@garrettbenedek1036]

"Ok...sooo....alright..." *exhales* "...Im WeLl AwArE oF pHoToSyNtHeSiS, r U?"

[@peronkop]

"Left-to-right curvature is impossible to see". No, it's not. The left-to-right curvature is the horizon forming a circle around you. If it wasn't curving then it wouldn't be at the distance it's at, at pretty much every point. Even as you are going out into space, you are just seeing the same circle but at a less sharp angle. The idea that you would see anything different is based on a complete misunderstanding of what the horizon is.

[@henryohse1]

its nearly imperceptible to the naked eye

[@MonsterGaming-zx5nv]

This is the kindest rudest guest I've ever seen

[@cwack12]

He got flatsmacked

[@karato77]

flerfs are lying losers 🤣😂

[@SeverelyGlitchy]

Flat smack and smoke crack sound awfully similar. Coincidence? I'll let the reader decide.

[@jr-pn1dt]

so he did say it with air quotes

[@justincredible.]

I admire your patience!

[@ibelieveingaming3562]

"Its nonsence man" walks away

[@shainedupuis2649]

You said the second oil rig was "lower in elevation"......🤦‍♂️

[@inrainbows1829]

When you can't think for yourself and need to regurgitate 4chan posts

[@kaweckipiotr]

Hes just repeating what he heard. He don’t get it

[@blntfngr]

What does history even have to do with the shape of the earth?

[@bgiv2010]

How is it possible for the sun to throw horizontal shadows at dusk on a flat Earth? The sun would never fully set!

[@nicholasbanton]

This man invests so much of his identity in these delusions that it is akin to witnessing a person fighting for their life as they defend their misguided beliefs.

[@AnthonyValcic]

Ugh. On behalf of Canada, sorry! Hey flat earther, sounds like you have a theory that better explains the observed phenomena - write it up and publish it, when scientists read it and go wow! That really explains it better and we’ve been wrong all along, amazing work! We nominate you for a Nobel prize you’ve replaced our millennia old model with something that works even better! That’s how it works man, you could be more famous than Einstein. No exaggeration, it would be a really really big deal, the biggest story of the century. The fact that you, or at least SOMEONE scientifically minded like Witsit doesn’t do that tells you all you need to know.

[@alexritchie4586]

If plants always propagated to use all the available atmospheric carbon dioxide, why is there still atmospheric carbon dioxide?

[@celiand2618]

The canoë test on lake ontario would work... How do I know ? I canoed a bit north and... Guess what ? It worked on a smaller lake

[@jme92685]

35:39 That was graphic, haha!

[@stevel6360]

Dudes a fan of austin witsht, he repeated an older script and tossed the *iMpUlSe CoNtRol* crap

[@Disturbed0neGaming]

Wow, this guy has no idea what he's talking about. He literally just says words he thinks are related to the topic he's supposed to be talking about.

[@TypicalEveningPictures]

If he doesn’t understand that the sun is a point then he doesn’t understand what convergence means or refraction or any of those words

[@ChickenHunter08]

Caller, your ideas are bad and you should feel bad

[@bowks1o_o669]

Someone who is only repeating what FE grifters have brainwashed him with, constantly stating that the person presenting mathematically and through diagrams why his claims are wrong is only repeating what "they" told him, is the greatest form of irony. DAF!!

[@DoctorX101]

I demand to know more about this Polygamy Model of the solar system! Y U HIDING IT?!!1!!!!

[@galenspikesmusic]

Stop saying “convergence” 😂

[@vastbigbubba]

35:00 💀💀💀💀🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@jme92685]

29:50

[@anotherwolff3650]

The Juicy One was the Best One! ;)

[@wessla]

I know this voice. Did Derrick find the moon yet?? 😂😂🌘

[@-Monad-]

Edit: Nevermind! I think they just hadnt generated yet. Ignore me. Can you please enable auto-generated Closed Captions on your uploads in future? i'M bEgGiNg YoU!!!1111!!!!1! lol

[@PlatonsArm]

Hearing an unsuspected and loud sound makes the human brain adverse to it. That means that people will subconsciously be trying to avoid it happening again. When you do that thing where your lips basically touch the mic, you are not asserting dominance and you’re not making your frustrations more relatable. All you do is you punish everyone who enjoys listening to you. You’re making people dislike you for no other reason than that you’re thoughtless of sound.

[@TeagueisTrash]

i mean i hate corporations and govt but im a socialist

[@diogeneslamp8004]

At least you have a good philosophical reason for it.

[@eplane]

Oooh….another Flerfer confidently stating drivel……

[@kfsea]

Canadians

[@Idellphany]

He tries to hard to be wrong.

[@mungelomwaangasikateyo376]

This flat earther seems to not understand basic geometry and trigonometry. You don't say "Use Euclidean geometry" when you can't define a tangent line 😂😂 Your politics are too strong