BIBLE Debate vs SiCARii Israelite v Christians

[@terrencejones5748]

This is like describing an object to a blind person , it's gonna take God himself to open his eyes

[@fernandodeleon4115]

True but the Church is not under the New Covenant. The New Covenant will start at Jesus 2nd coming = Romans 11:26,27

[@terrencejones5748]

@fernandodeleon4115 we are in the new covenant , there are things that have changed to prove we are not under the old , the new is not complete however we are living in it now.

[@fernandodeleon4115]

@@terrencejones5748 I hope this will help you brother. In Ezekiel 36:25-38, the Gentile believers and the Church are not under the New Covenant, in it's context. Now look at Ezekiel 36:36, the Gentile believers are mentioned. 👉God is not a liar. He will fulfill His promises to Israel in the future.

[@BornOnASaturday]

Luke 22:20 makes it abundantly clear we are in the new covenant.

[@fernandodeleon4115]

In Ezekiel 36:25-38, the Gentile believers and the Church are not under the New Covenant, in it's context. Now look at Ezekiel 36:36, the Gentile believers are mentioned. 👉God is not a liar. He will fulfill His promises to Israel in the future.

[@robgardner4414]

Does he really think he has no sin? This guy had the truth in front of him and denied the truth outright!

[@asrotties]

His mouth literally never stops flapping. His mouth is going, his mind isn't taking in new information. He isn't wanting to learn, he just wants to flap his lips like a goat.

[@Shnickers123]

The same mentality is why the Hebrews denied Jesus when He came…He was telling them…I AM HE, The promised ONE, yet they could not see it and Jesus was standing literally right in front of them…

[@Liftingmycross]

God bless Vocab for loving these people enough to try and help show them the truth

[@Kobe8-r2c]

DEUTERONOMY 24 V 16 Jesus Christ never existed or died on the cross

[@Liftingmycross]

@@Kobe8-r2cyou just described the perfect verse for salvation. Christ was sinless and being the sinless without blemish sacrificial lamb he took on the sins of the world so we should not perish

[@Kobe8-r2c]

@@Liftingmycross Question are people are still perishing and dyeing today and still sinning ❓

[@lloydgeorge8799]

Christianity is nothing but anti Christ. The reason none of you understand the bible is it was written by Israelites for Israelites and not for the rest of the world. That thinks John 3:16 means the whole world.

[@Liftingmycross]

@ only the ones who deny Jesus and refuse to turn to him and away from the world.

[@americaone749]

Young man, yelling, does not tell me you're on the right side, consider this. God bless

[@avereysmith640]

SiCARii aggravated by the Holy Spirit speaking truth. Fruit of the spirit cant everrrrrrr be shown by these cultists.

[@Kobe8-r2c]

DEUTERONOMY 24 V 16 Jesus Christ never existed or died on the cross

[@CelticxWolf-s7w]

@@Kobe8-r2c No, Deuteronomy 24:16 does not mean that Jesus never died, but rather that each person is responsible for their own actions and sins. The verse states that parents should not be punished for their children's sins, nor should children be punished for their parents' sins. John 3:16 says, "For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life". Scholars say that John 3:16 defines true love as laying down one's life for others. Others say that the truest proof of love is in giving. jesus fulfilled the law of moses :)

[@-----GOD-----]

Why do Israelites always get sliced up when they're by themselves, but never admit it?

[@Duel-too-the-Death]

@@CelticxWolf-s7w 1. What does John 3:14 say and mean? 2. When you say "jesus fulfilled the law .... of moses" 2a. What do you think the word "fulfilled" means in that context? 2b. It did not say "jesus fulfilled the law 'OF MOSES'. . . Your adding to the word

[@JordanSmith-hf8hp]

Vocab kept his cool the entire time and the other brother was raising his voice at Vocab to defined himself and I didn’t see him pick up his Bible to back up his claims he was saying. Vocab pointed to so many scriptures and backed it up. Shows a lot

[@-----GOD-----]

Vocab had him backed against the wall. Dude being on his phone so much had me thinking he was texting his brothers for help.😂

[@TTNL2442]

They always get help during debates.

[@Tony-Gatos]

These fake Israelites honor Google more than the word of God.

[@Tony-Gatos]

Their real bible and God is Google 🤦‍♂️

[@LaJuera25]

Usually jr members of this cult serve as their “scripture boy”

[@adamspears2492]

Good stuff Vocab. When you quoted Hebrews 10:8-17, that really destroyed his whole argument.

[@Kobe8-r2c]

DEUTERONOMY 24 V 16 Jesus Christ never existed or died on the cross for your sins.

[@JadDragon]

@@Kobe8-r2c Even Atheist scholars believe Jesus existed AND died on the cross. Bro gonna start dropping flat earth theories next

[@cartiaekreacts]

@@Kobe8-r2cthen why deu 18:15 talks about Jesus and John 5:46-47 Jesus said Moses wrote about me 🤔

[@zdub92732]

Vocab has great patience and grace. This was really hard to watch. This brother it's not open to understanding. He is angry and not making sense. Stuck in the old testament. Pray God opens his eyes and he accepts Christ.

[@Giorgio_Shi]

(11:30) Also in Hebrews 10.1, the Law is called a "shadow of the good things that are coming"

[@melodieb19]

THIS WAS AMAZING GREAT JOB VOCAB

[@kevinAltheimer3317]

New Covenant began with the death of Jesus Christ: Mediator: Jesus is the mediator of the New Covenant, and his death on the cross is the basis of the promise. Blood sacrifice: The blood of Christ is the only blood sacrifice required by the covenant. Sealed by blood: The New Covenant was sealed by the blood of Jesus, which paid the price for the forgiveness of sins for all who believe in him. The New Covenant is based on faith in the shed blood of Christ, not on repeated sacrifices or other kinds of work. The New Covenant fulfills all of God's covenant promises, including the promises to Abraham, Israel, and David. The Old Covenant was established with God's people and required strict obedience to the Mosaic Law. However, the prophets Moses, Jeremiah, and Ezekiel all alluded to the New Covenant while the Old Covenant was still in effect.

[@kevinAltheimer3317]

These folks remind me of muslims arguing because they don't know better.

[@kevinAltheimer3317]

This guy doesn't even know what the word absolute means

[@Thousttubeth]

Here’s the truth about having conversations with cults. We absolutely have to start with the gospel. No matter the topic. Have them share their understanding of the gospel and we must share the clear and pure gospel. Afterwards we can know how to better approach the subject or topic at hand, understanding that it is always about leading them to God’s grace and mercy through His gospel. It is the message of God’s gospel that will either soften or harden their hearts.

[@Kobe8-r2c]

DEUTERONOMY 24 V 16 Jesus Christ never existed or died on the cross for your sins

[@michaell8184]

You start 2/3rd through a book???

[@bobbyharoldharold2313]

Also the sermon on the mount speaks about a new revelation concerning moving from outward practice to the change of the heart, inward man!

[@MinisterChrisisL7]

Love this bro!

[@asrotties]

You can always tell a weak person when they start getting loud and out of control of their own emotions. Dude, calm down, listen.... study, PRAY FOR DISCERNMENT and Stop trying to make the bible fit what YOU want it to say. When your mouth is going constantly, your ears are not hearing and your mind is not taking information in. Salvation comes through Christ, to ALL who believe and follow Christ Jesus.

[@Stloudakik]

All those Hebrew Israelites will end up like Billy Carson anytime they face a well studied individual. Great job brother vocab

[@Ephraimthegentile]

Grace is given and not deserved.Why do we need Grace is the reason why one isn’t in hell yet

[@josiahpulemau6214]

God bless your heart brotha. Like diving head first into the shallow end of the pool that was very hard to watch. God bless your heart brotha Vocab

[@Sleepersown83]

Ok I’m finished. What a great discussion. I was lost at the disconnect for a while from the Israelite brother but, I think it was because of what Vocab said about the Hebrew roots thing. I know he was getting tight cuz his points weren’t being addressed in the way he felt they should be but, we must be careful when we get emotional cuz we can cut off the part of being able to receive the message cuz we’re so entrenched in wanting only what we want in the way we want it. Def smart and intelligent people and such a great respectful discussion ! I loved learning so much here ! Bout to go watch that trinity one now 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾

[@irvingrivera3844]

Sicarii gets smoked at every turn and his aggravation shows it!

[@Saint_DayBreak]

False teacher said he does not need grace 18:49

[@TedEast-i1b]

We are in the new covenant under JESUS and awaiting his return

[@kimm4stoo]

Israelite came across as an angry teenager.

[@judahbalark2349]

Yall come across as liars 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@tonyhatfield6527]

All honesty I feel like this topic is the one that took me off a good path..

[@pcadorette42]

Man, this debate was 🔥! Vocab brought that smooth theological breakdown with mad scriptural receipts, while the Hebrew Israelite rep hit hard with relatable analogies and a solid game plan. Both kept it respectful, but Vocab’s consistency in tying it all together edged it slightly. Feels like watching two MVPs from different leagues go head-to-head. 👏🔥

[@robbyrob6348]

Paul said we are in the new covenant clearly: 2 Corinthians 3:6 NIV He has made us competent as ministers of a new covenant-not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.

[@JTJR]

This guy is all over the place. The comprehension isn’t there and Satan has blinded this man.

[@asrotties]

His mouth literally never stops flapping. His mouth is going, his mind isn't taking in new information. He isn't wanting to learn, he just wants to flap his lips like a goat.

[@JTJR]

@ they’re trained to control the conversation but unfortunately he had a hard time doing so and what was being presented to him he wasn’t ready for and it caused him to malfunction. They operate like robots.

[@asrotties]

@@JTJR Indeed. They WANT to be in control and they are so arrogant and prideful. Exactly what God is against. IT is sad really. Pray they wake up and come to the truth of the word. We are offered such a beautiful gift from God, no reason to ass or subtract from it. Come humbly, Come willing, share the word.

[@chief8976]

They get so emotional and angry it’s a very telling signal honestly. Like I get passion but to get angry is different. Vocab is controlled and stable emotionally the entire time.

[@oldschoolsaint]

You have the patients of a saint Vocab. Hopefully you've planted some seeds in this young man's head and heart, though it seems you were dealing with a brick wall here. Nonetheless these sorts of discussions serve a great purpose....they educate those who are watching and inoculate some who might fall into this cult. BTW...if you have young children, talks like this are preparing you well for what it's going to be like to deal with a teenager. I swear, watching this took me back to the days when my kids were younger and I was trying to share my hard earned wisdom with them. Might as well have been speaking Swahili. 🤣🤣

[@invisiblepodcast.]

this guy is never going to understand, he literally doesn't listen to other people arguments, vocab is talking and he starts doing something

[@Polymath1998]

Vocab does the same thing the whole video n the other video as well, but because he claims to be Christian you won’t call him out for it. Hypocrite

[@invisiblepodcast.]

@ bro vocab paid attention to him to refute him , but cause hes not a bhi u dont admit that

[@AveryGreen1420]

This is so sad sad it’s true they’re blind brother. Pray for these brothers

[@BornTwyce4]

Believers are currently under the Law of Christ by way of the New Covenant

[@Keevthe6thunderChristJesus]

Why did Vocab let him slither away from showing a verse that says 'we are under the old covenant' in the NT?

[@bobbyharoldharold2313]

1) The Law was a tutor to lead us to Christ 2) The completion of the New Covenant is when this mortality takes on immortality 3) We are transformed by the renewing of your mind 4) Those who are led by the Spirit of God these are the sons of God not those who continue to try to live under the Law of Moses which the scripture clearly states will not save you!

[@Duel-too-the-Death]

Well sin is the transgression of the law. . . so if there is no more law . . . how can there be sin?

[@JadDragon]

@Duel-too-the-Death How did Adam sin before the law? You have a misunderstanding of what both concepts are. Sin exists outside the law.

[@ArcticBlits]

@@Duel-too-the-Deathnot necessarily the law of Moses from the old covenant. Romans speaks of our conscience as a law to us gentiles. As gentiles are under wrath and law but not the old covenant.

[@Duel-too-the-Death]

@@ArcticBlits I dont even know what your talking about or what your responding to.... " _Romans speaks of our conscience as a law to us gentiles_ " *What Chapter and Verse?* Romans was NOT written to NON Israelites. You seem to also not have a understanding of the meaning of the word Gentile. (it does NOT . . . JUST . . . mean anyone not of Israel) " _As gentiles are under wrath and law but not the old covenant_ " *What is the exact scripture that says NONISREALITES are under "wrath and law"* The nonsense you people just make up is ridiculous sometimes

[@Duel-too-the-Death]

@@JadDragon you apparently dont look at all your posts. .... clearly anwered the sin question

[@joshneal4417]

Why would we need any covenant if we won't sin???

[@JadDragon]

On a road trip. Old covenant is A, New covenant is B. Once you leave you're no longer at A, on the way to B, but not fully there yet. Same with the covenant. No longer under the Old, in the journey of the new, not at completion, but still not under the old anymore. Jesus lives! ♥️ and is Yahweh God 🙏🏻 Christ ✝️ and King 👑

[@banemaler]

The new covenant was cut in the body and blood of Christ our sacrifice, it is now being completed in time. Just as the covenant to Adam and Abraham there is a waiting for the Son and for the nation. The history of waiting is throughout the scriptures. Moses waited with the Israelites in the wilderness. David waited for the consummation of the kingdom as he fled Saul although he was annoited King. The prophets foretold the coming of Jesus and in his Advent the people waited, Mary waited, the world waited. And now we continue to wait for his second coming.

[@JadDragon]

@@banemaler we are under the new covenant now, but we await it's completion

[@JadDragon]

@deuteronomycurse3221 the new covenant hasn't been completed yet, but we have entered into it and are under it. They are not right.

[@JadDragon]

@deuteronomycurse3221 Jesus is God. Worship Him.

[@ronaldforrest5321]

this look like the Tyson & Jake Paul figjt😂 Vocab is killing the guy

[@kevinAltheimer3317]

According to the Bible, Jesus fulfilled the Law of Moses in several ways, including: Teaching the law: Jesus taught the spirit and letter of the law, explaining and exemplifying God's law. Completing the law's purpose: Jesus' death and resurrection accomplished the purpose of the law. Ratifying the covenant: Jesus' death ratified the new covenant. Destroying the barrier of sin: Jesus' sacrifice on the cross destroyed the barrier of sin that separated people from God. Fulfilling a prophecy: Jesus fulfilled the prophecy in Isaiah 42:21, which says that God will exalt the law and make it honorable. Jesus said, "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them" (Matthew 5:17-18). The phrase "the Law and the Prophets" refers to the entire Hebrew Bible. Jesus' fulfillment of the law was not just about obeying the law's commands, but about fulfilling its true meaning.

[@kevinAltheimer3317]

His reader just read description to make him shut up, and he doesn't know how to shut up.

[@kevinAltheimer3317]

For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes” is a verse from the Bible, Romans 10:4. The verse means that Christ fulfilled the law's purpose and became its end: The law's purpose The law was meant to lead people to Christ, showing them their need for a savior. Christ's fulfillment Christ perfectly kept the law and fulfilled its righteous requirements. He embodied the righteousness that the law aimed to produce.

[@garnettemay1180]

Luke 22:20 King James Version 20 Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you.

[@Paperbackbible]

What is missing is the betrothal which is just as legally binding as the marriage so much so that a bill of divorce is needed. But the sealing of the covenant is the blood

[@th3highdruid]

lol “you’re reading from the New Testament” lol translation: New Testament = New Covenant 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Duel-too-the-Death]

thats NOT what it means what are you talking about

[@th3highdruid]

@ The English word testament derives from a Greek term meaning “covenant.” In Hebrew, it means “agreement,” “covenant,” or “contract.” This is basic Bible 101

[@emtiedvessel]

He clearly never read the new covenant if he thinks we're still in the old covenant

[@tylerd132]

@deuteronomycurse3221yo are you gonna keep copying a pasting the same thing over and over again. Think for yourself and stop just repeating yourself

[@robbyrob6348]

Christ himself said we are in the new covenant: Luke 22:20 NIV In the same way, after the supper he took the cup, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood, which is poured out for you.

[@elijahhawkins521]

7:43 I can see that written on your heart is not by itself but there is the principle that the Lord God will make everything beautiful in His time displayed when Jesus stands in the synagogue, reads portion of Isaiah 61 and closes the scroll, then sits down and teaches the people that the Scripture He read had been fulfilled in their hearing. I think this Sicarii fellow, if he remained consistent, would have grips with Jesus for saying it was fulfilled while at that moment the Sicarri fellow didn’t also see or experience the day of vengeance of God that is spoken of in the same verse. I think he would try to refute the true claim Jesus made by saying that both things written about haven’t occurred so therefore the prior hadn’t yet been fulfilled (even after being told that it has).

[@2dudesNdad]

How can he be stuck in the Old Testament but yet his precepts come from the New Testament???

[@BibleBeliever1]

This is why is it extraordinarily important to study the sanctuary process. It will answer so many of these questions. But because modern Christianity has eliminated any idea of the sanctuary because of the cross it's hard to understand things like when Christ will put on his crown as king and if he's literally sitting at the right hand of the father. At this moment we still have a mediator when we pray. Therefore Christ is still in high priest mode. He will not take off those priest garments and become king until he is done meditating she comes to claim his kingdom

[@Kobe8-r2c]

DEUTERONOMY 24 V 16 Jesus was never a human sacrifice or died on the cross

[@robgardner4414]

This was difficult to watch! You should really do a study on the eight kingdoms written about! It will help a great deal. They are not just interchangeable.

[@IamThatDude]

I am 41 minutes in and I can see why the GMC camps are so upset with this conversation. While GMC is calling the cops on Vocab, Sacarii is debating SUBSTANCE. Though there is much disagreement, I love the respect shown here. A soft answer turns away wrath. This is what we need nowadays.🙏🏽

[@-----GOD-----]

Sicarii are as intellectually dishonest as they come. GRLA said it would be okay if Polite killed GRLA's mom, because she's white. "Substance," at its finest.

[@jasongray8543]

If they were under the old covenant after God gave Moses the law and the statutes and the blood was sprinkled on the ark and the people; how then can you say we are not under the new covenant after Christ was crucified, died, was buried, God raised him up again on the third day, and ascend up to heaven, where he sprinkled his own blood on the mercy seat on the ark that is in heaven?

[@cartiaekreacts]

Galatians 5:1-6 1 Cor 15:56 🤝🏾

[@joshneal4417]

There comes a point you have to dust off your sandals to some people

[@TTNL2442]

Easy work for Vocab again. When you are speaking Gods truth, no man or cult can stand against you.

[@TTNL2442]

@deuteronomycurse3221 the new covenant began with Christ like Luke 22:20 states. It will be complete upon the second and final coming of Christ. The new covenant started when the new testament started. Its very clear.

[@Aunti-g]

Vocab needs to win arguments using his parts of scripture

[@lv4boxing]

31:35 - 31:35 did he not just say that this confirms the new covenant? This guy is so confusing 🤔😪😪 Is what they call this the Hebrew hop-scotch?? “I don’t see the kingdom of Jesus now! The kingdom is not here.” So in other words he’s saying, “”We walk by sight not by faith.”” NOT “We walk by FAITH NOT by sight.”.

[@swingingm]

Don't forget to hit that like button!

[@jedi1love]

Shout out to Vocabs patience! Wow

[@WWIIKittyhawk]

This black man is literally assuming he knows better than Jesus himself

[@kevinAltheimer3317]

Ignorance is a word that defined the siccarii guy talking.

[@Sleepersown83]

Also James 4:17 is the explanation I think arw what Anthony and Vocab are trying to say at the 53 min marker. It’s GOD showing us how real His holiness is and how unfit we are to act like we can be like that with these fleshly bodies. JESUS came and literally upped the ante on all the laws ppl thought were making them justified. For ex the law splicing people were doing trying to define it to the most infinitesimal layer to trip JESUS up when they asked Him questions. It would clearly seem He did that to show you “ ahh you thought you were good ? HA ! Bro you don’t know the half ! I’m LETTING you rock ! You besta believe in me cuz you don’t even know how far you are from me and what I approve of “. Thank GOD FOR HIS GRACE THRU CHRIST JESUS !

[@wlparker008]

Ephesians 4: 29 Let no harmful language come from your mouth, only good words that are helpful in meeting the need, words that will benefit those who hear them. 30 Don’t cause grief to God’s Ruach HaKodesh, for he has stamped you as his property until the day of final redemption. 31 Get rid of all bitterness, rage, anger, violent assertiveness and slander, along with all spitefulness. 32 Instead, be kind to each other, tenderhearted; and forgive each other, just as in the Messiah God has also forgiven you.

[@JadDragon]

Old covenant is singleness, new covenant is marriage. Once you're engaged you're not longer single but are not yet married, but you're still under obligations of the future marriage. We're not under the Old and are enjoying the new even if it's not fulfilled yet. And like marriage there are benefits you get once the marriage is complete that we don't get as single or engaged (if we don't break such rules).

[@Duel-too-the-Death]

when were you EVER under the old?

[@JadDragon]

@@Duel-too-the-Death I wasn't born before Jesus, so no, it was impossible for me to be so. I *_am_* under the new.

[@BornTwyce4]

BOTH OF YOU GUYS READ: Israel’s Only Hope: The New Covenant by John B Metzger

[@BornTwyce4]

BOTH OF YOU GUYS READ: The Law, Then and Now: What About Grace? By John B. Metzger

[@curt62208]

This BHI method of argumentation is difficult to listen to! It’s to the point I’d rather watch paint dry!

[@AdrielDamoneTv]

Man I love a good conversation about scripture but this was tough to watch. Dude was just disagreeing and not engaging with any scripture vocab read.

[@jacobgirls3787]

Wow he has a aggressive spirit. How many verses he has to read to show you we in the new covenant. Who let this young man down in his life where he ran to this cult. Yah heal him😊

[@beatsbyjiro8291]

Relevant to this discussion? In that He saith “a new covenant,” He hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away. Hebrews 8:13

[@Tbrew-zd6xb]

@beat. Who is the covenant with?

[@JadDragon]

@@Tbrew-zd6xb Not you apparently as you're also a gentil

[@TTNL2442]

​@@Tbrew-zd6xbBelievers in Christ.

[@Ephraimthegentile]

The law is written on all human heart. I believe when God created and keeps creating a human,the human has the knowledge of the Ten Commandments from the get go.no one will have excuse end times comes or death comes first.

[@Tbrew-zd6xb]

@ephraim. It's not we are still having debates on what constitutes the law andvwhat we can and cannot do

[@jdub6909]

The death on the CrossIS THE NEW COVENANT.

[@Mightymanofvalor]

This guy is sinning just by his mannerisms. 🤦🏻‍♂️ but he don’t need grace

[@Unknown_Disciple_Of_Christ]

When did the New Covenant begin? Quick Answer: When did the New Covenant begin? The New Covenant began at the death of Christ (Luke 22:20; Hebrews 9:16). This means Jesus lived and ministered under the Old Covenant (Galatians 4:4). This is why some of Jesus’ teachings expose the true spirit of the Old Testament law. Diving Deeper: Once we have finished reading the Old Testament, we come to the New Testament which starts in Matthew 1. But did you know that the New Testament era, or new covenant, does not really begin in Matthew 1? That’s right. It’s not baby Jesus in a manger that brings in God’s new way of grace. The new covenant didn’t begin until 33 years later at the death of Christ (Luke 22:20; Hebrews 9:16). Note that the words “testament”, “covenant”, and “will” are all the same Greek word diathéké. This is important because it’s a death, not a birth, that is required to activate a will or testament. Therefore, the New Testament era (also known as the new covenant) actually begins at the death of Christ, not at His birth. Hebrews 9:16-17 says: “In the case of a will, it is necessary to prove the death of the one who made it, because a will is in force only when somebody has died; it never takes effect while the one who made it is living.” A will does not go into effect until the death of the one who made it. Likewise, the new covenant did not go into force until Jesus died. In fact, even the old covenant did not go into effect without blood: “Moses then took the blood, sprinkled it on the people and said, “This is the blood of the covenant that the Lord has made with you in accordance with all these words” (Exodus 24:8). For this same reason, at the Last Supper, Jesus told His disciples the new covenant would be coming through His blood (not His birth): “This cup is the new covenant in my blood, which is poured out for you” (Luke 22:20b). This means that Jesus’ entire earthly ministry was under the Old Covenant (Galatians 4:4). Jesus was born under the Law, and we draw the dividing line of human history at the cross, not at the manger: “But when the set time had fully come, God sent his Son, born of a woman, born under the law, to redeem those under the law” (Galatians 4:4-5). Both Jesus and His audience lived during the old covenant Law. This is why we see so many harsh teachings from Jesus in which impossible standards are taught - cut off your hand, pluck out your eye, be perfect like God (see the Sermon on the Mount in Matthew 5-7 for examples). Have you ever wondered why Jesus taught that forgiveness was conditioned upon forgiving others first (Matthew 6:12-15)? Or why Jesus said we must be perfect like God (Matthew 5:48)? This was Jesus teaching the perfect standard of the Law so his hearers would see their need for God’s grace instead (Galatians 3:19-23). So, when you’re reading the Bible and come across verses in the four Gospels that seem to make rightness with God difficult or burdensome, remember that Jesus was showing the proud Jews of His day the impossibility of Law-based living and the fallacy of self righteousness. This does not mean that all of Jesus’ teachings before the cross were only relevant to those living under the old covenant. Jesus knew the new covenant was imminent, and the goal of His teachings was twofold: (1) to show people the futility of trying to keep the Law and (2) to prepare them for a new way of grace. These are the two main messages we see in the teachings of Christ. When we realize the cross is the dividing line between the old covenant and the new covenant, the impossible law-based teachings of Jesus finally make sense. And the message of God’s grace found in the Gospel becomes clearer than ever! 🖋 Dr. Andrew Farley

[@lv4boxing]

46:10 Whoooooooooooo!!!!! Man that stung!!!!! Hallelujah!!!!!!!!!

[@JesusPPK]

Proverbs 12:1 ESV Whoever loves discipline loves knowledge, but he who hates reproof is stupid.

[@JesusPPK]

Men like him cannot be pastors or teachers.

[@nikduke23]

16:30 = Debate null and void

[@DEEVSTHEWORLD]

He a waste of time. He just keep asking questions and he I was never proved anything even when he gets caught being wrong

[@JesusPPK]

I really don't like this guy from Sacarii. He lacks humility.

[@JesusPPK]

@deuteronomycurse3221 if you wish to ignore what the writer of Hebrews said then so be it.

[@JesusPPK]

@deuteronomycurse3221 yeah you're right. What am I thinking.

[@LaJuera25]

That’s the whole cult. It’s fill of arrogance anger and pride. This is why previous married members have spouses that couldn’t live with them. This cult is full of angry single black and Latino men. They are full of vengeance as demonstrated by the disrespect in the comments. You can tell who they are.

[@garnettemay1180]

Hebrew 8 :7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second. 8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah: 9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord. 10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people: 11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest. 12 For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more. 13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.

[@garnettemay1180]

Hebrew 9: 15 And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance. 16 For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator. 17 For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth. 18 Whereupon neither the first testament was dedicated without blood. 19 For when Moses had spoken every precept to all the people according to the law, he took the blood of calves and of goats, with water, and scarlet wool, and hyssop, and sprinkled both the book, and all the people, 20 Saying, This is the blood of the testament which God hath enjoined unto you. 21 Moreover he sprinkled with blood both the tabernacle, and all the vessels of the ministry. 22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission. 23 It was therefore necessary that the patterns of things in the heavens should be purified with these; but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these. 24 For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us: 25 Nor yet that he should offer himself often, as the high priest entereth into the holy place every year with blood of others; 26 For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself. 27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: 28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

[@tonyhatfield6527]

2:20 how sad, a gift is something you don’t have to give this is second grade stuff….

[@Son_of_God_401]

Hebrews 8:13 The old covenant is still waxing at that point and considering things like Isaiah 66 cites thing being unclean to eat alongside new heaven/earth I will not say that the old covenant has been snuffed out. If they are justified by the law then they are not under grace Galatians 5:4. I have no problem with their claim that they are bloodline Jakes (not every member of their claimed demographics but the individuals in these organizations who don't fall away). I think it is best to treat them as Jews who are edging their way into belief who hold some incorrect doctrine. When they come under grace they will cease to segregate themselves as Jews and become Sons of God.

[@ronaldforrest5321]

he has an satin durag and a cotton hoodie but he is under the law of Moses

[@Kobe8-r2c]

DEUTERONOMY 24 V 16 Jesus Christ never existed or died on the cross for your sins.

[@GonRogue-85]

🤔

[@tylerd132]

@@Kobe8-r2creading comprehension low on this one here 😂😂😂😂

[@brozay7855]

Valid point … the law of Moses prohibits the mixing of garments / cotton with polyester etc.

[@malachi5813]

a prideful movement that all it is to find identity at any cost even if the truth is dismantled

[@davidwashington9447]

44:23 buddy ate... God bless

[@DEEVSTHEWORLD]

Its point less talking to this guy 😂😂😂

[@rmedina86rm]

Bro doesn’t understand but everyone else is wrong 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@jimmygreen2515]

Man his whole argument is flawed let me ask the Hebrew a question how if he is still practicing in the old law of Moses where and when do he sacrifice what offerings are provided and if none of these things are done then how do he find and are saved or is all hope is lost

[@BibleBeliever1]

This is the installment of the new Covenant... Hebrews 9:11-18 KJV [11] But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building; [12] neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us. [13] For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh: [14] how much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God? [15] And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance. [16] For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator. [17] For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth. [18] Whereupon neither the first testament was dedicated without blood.

[@BibleBeliever1]

@deuteronomycurse3221 so you're saying you don't trust the Bible?

[@BibleBeliever1]

@deuteronomycurse3221 so why don't you believe Christ died on the cross?

[@BibleBeliever1]

@deuteronomycurse3221 all the prophecies pointing to the messiah and his death were false?

[@BibleBeliever1]

@deuteronomycurse3221 i asked about the prophecies pointing to Christ. Can you answer that? He will come riding a donkey Zechariah 9:9... sold for 30 pieces of silver Zechariah 11... the coming of the messiah and his death Daniel 9... those 3 of so many don't point to what Christ did?

[@BibleBeliever1]

@deuteronomycurse3221 I think the issue may be that you're leaving God himself out of the equation. The righteous bloodline even before Abraham descends from Adam, Seth, methuselah, Noah etc etc. In which case the ultimate father of them all including Adam is God Luke 3:38... Christ doesn't have an earthly father because he is still God. But he has an earthly mother because in order to die (because God in full glory can't die) he had to be born as a human. Christ also said he is the root (beginning/before) and the offspring (product of) David, Revelation 22:16. But his bloodline through Adam down to David began with his father in heaven. Christ is the lamb slain from the foundation of the earth. We can't understand these things without the new testament. This is why the Jews don't accept Christ because they refuse the new testament. We also have to remember there are also spiritual fulfilments to prophecies and not just physical. For example circumcision went from physical to the circumcision of the heart. The literal bloodline of the Jews is not what saves them anymore. Those who are Jews within are saved. Romans 2:28-29... Daniel 9 clearly explains the coming of the messiah and that he would be cut off (killed) (becoming the circumcision) in the midst of his years of ministry. Christ fulfilled it exactly. There is no way to deny that. The sanctuary process... he was the lamb slain from the foundation of the earth (sacrifice) He is the living water (baptism) (laver) He is the bread of life (table of shewbread) He is the light of the world (7 branch candle stick) He is the mediator of prayers between us and the father (incense) He never sinned and taught the law of God (Ark of the Covenant) If we refuse to see what Christ did in his life both physically and spiritually we will always be stuck in the old testament waiting for a messiah that's already come

[@irvingrivera3844]

At least SiCarii learned Teleios! lol

[@yl9165]

He's so confused

[@kevinAltheimer3317]

1 Corinthians 11:25: Jesus says, "This cup is the new covenant in my blood". 2 Corinthians 3:6: We are made ministers of a new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit. 2 Corinthians 3:3: We are a letter from Christ written on tablets of human hearts with the Spirit of God. 1 Peter 2:9: We are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, and a holy nation. Acts 10; Ephesians 2:13-14: After the resurrection of Christ, the Gentiles are brought into the blessing of the New Covenant. Hebrews 7:22: The Old Covenant has served its purpose and been replaced by a better covenant. Ephesians 2:8-9: Under the New Covenant, we receive salvation as a free gift.

[@Duel-too-the-Death-2]

and who is the new covenant for?

[@JadDragon]

@@Duel-too-the-Death-2 Not you apparently 😔

[@romethagentleman]

I thought we are in the new convenient but still have to keep the laws with faith in Christ.. Grace should make us strive to keep the laws and get better. We fall short as humans so thankful for grace..But grace is not a reason to continue to sin. Im always open to learn more tho. God bless both of you men. Iron sharpens iron

[@Tbrew-zd6xb]

@rome. The new covenant is made with whom according to jeremiah 31:31-34? The house of Izrl/judah. They rejected Hamashiach. So how has the covenant been established at that time?

[@C.McMillan]

Many out here twisting scriptures to fit their own man-made belief systems. Stay chiseled.

[@JadDragon]

@@Tbrew-zd6xb Is revelation 1 an accurate description of Jesus?

[@Tbrew-zd6xb]

@@JadDragon yes

[@JadDragon]

@@Tbrew-zd6xb Can we go through it together and have you answer my questions about the passage?

[@rebukeandreprove.]

This was hard to watch

[@th3highdruid]

lol “you’re reading from the New Testament” lol Translation:New Testament = New Covenant 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@jehrup]

Please someone answer me,, if you read the books.. if we lived liked god did and followed his laws forever like he wanted us to? Would today how we know it be ? I know as a black man I wouldn’t have never been born. Honestly

[@JesusPPK]

Vocab, you wasted your time.

[@finalbeat2658]

I hope that you are not laboring in vain vocab he clearly is blind

[@wendelynyoung8609]

Preaching the Word of God is not in vain. I’m a Christian and learn so much from Vocab especially how non believers behave. Clearly this BHI is not hearing nor does he have any desire to learn. Prayers are needed for all.

[@GonRogue-85]

You never know who is watching this. Could be some considering the HBI ideology and get them thinking. Seeds are being planted.

[@wendelynyoung8609]

@@GonRogue-85 amen!!

[@carlosd.9158]

Now but not yet. Is biblical. We are saved and not yet. Justified but not yet. Redeemed but not yet. Holy people. But not yet... The holy Spirit is the sign and seal of the new covenant. The new covenant is not gonna established when he comes. We know Christ and are in him and he's in us. The two have been made one. But not yet. . Made one By the Holy Spirit . It's the Holy Spirit writes it in our hearts. The law written on our hearts is not mean glorifications or perfection. The new heart is regeneration and new birth. The new covenant is forgiveness through Christ by his blood death and resurrection. The covenant has been cut. No new covenant then your under the Law New Covenant is one of Grace This is the New Covenant . Grace and truth came through Christ

[@slvicick]

It seems one of the roadblocks to the conversation is how we view prophecy. I'm not finished with the video yet, but so far, Vocab sees prophecy as obscure until it's revealed. Taz sees prophecy as clear when initially spoken. So, Vocab can rely on the New Testament to interpret prophecy, but Taz is looking at the world to interpret it. It seems this is the reason he can in a sense downplay the Hebrew writer. This seems to always be a sticking point. Do we interpret the OT in light of the NT, or do we interpret the NT in light of the OT.

[@Tbrew-zd6xb]

@slv. The question is this? According to jeremiah 31:31-34 and hebrews 8 the new covenant is made with the house of izrl/judah. Vocab uses replacement theology and completely ignores who its supposed to be made with

[@TTNL2442]

​@@Tbrew-zd6xbThe new covenant is for believers in Christ.

[@cookiemonster-ix2zc]

I looked up the word Scaraii. I was very interested in the name. It stated that there were Jews that rob, murder, and committed violence on Jews and Roman's. Idkw that particular name was chosen.

[@COJ316]

This guy is vailed by ready the old