What Happens When We Die According to the Bible? • Heaven and Earth Ep. 4

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[@andsoitgoes1142]

I am left more confused than ever. You could have eliminated the first half of this video and been more specific in the last. The whole concept is fairly nebulous to me. I thin. Maybe we should just focus on serving God because He is our Father, and stop concerning our selves with worldly concepts like rewards. It seems none of us have it right anyway.

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[@Russ_Looney]

"To be sbsent from the body is to be present with Christ." It happened to me once. Jesus was there, even though I did not deserve him. He really was... and He is so bright! His light of glory is so bright it makes the sun look like a dust ball. What a wonder He is. God bless you brothers and sisters. God is leading his people. Love you all

[@michele9890]

If we were present with the Lord at death, there would be no reason for the rapture. In 2 Thes, it states that when the trumpet sounds, those who are dead in Christ shall rise first and those that remain and are alive will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord. Another scripture states that in Roman's 14:12, we will all give an account for every word we spoke on Judgment Day. For us to be present at death, God would have to judge each of us continually as we die. Lazarus was asleep, the centurion solders daughter was asleep, and the Bible states those in the Old Testament are asleep. They did not know Jesus and, therefore, could not be born again as required in order to dwell with God and be saved from death. In light of your experience, it's my thought that satan comes as an angel of light and shows the glory of God and His splendor so he can trick us into giving up our will to not remain and continue to do Gods⁶ work. I'm not saying one sins at that moment ,just the opposite. Their will to be with God at that moment is greater than their ability to see the deciever, and they choose not to continue here on earth. Satan roams around like a roaring lion seeking whom he may devour .🙏

[@Russ_Looney]

@@michele9890 I am only speaking from experience. In May 2021 I died on the side of I35 in Texas. I left my body and went to a place called the valley of the shadow of death. Christ was there beside me. He was huge, but I could only see his foot and the hem of his robe. The light of his glory was so bright that it penetrated into the face of the rock like it was transparent, but it was like granite. Lord Jesus Christ was there. Afterwards I was baptized and started reading the scriptures and it was then that I understood what had happened, or at least some of what I was shown. My aunt received a word from a sister in Christ that confirmed as much. Christ said, "I was there. He is covered." It took me some time to come to understanding, but I offer you the truth. I was overdosed on drugs and knew I was dying. I prayed to Jesus on the pavement behind my car. I did not "deserve" his grace and mercy, yet he answered that prayer. He really is with us, praise God. Emmanuel

[@ErikFindling]

Unfortunately it does not say this in scripture and the use of “is to be” completely changes the meaning of the verse. The scripture says “I am willing that I would be absent from the body and be present with the Lord”. As you can see, this is Paul’s desire but it was not going to happen until the resurrection

[@Russ_Looney]

@@ErikFindling God bless you

[@Kefir288]

@@michele9890If that was “Satan”, and you only sleep when you die, then him coming as an angel of light doesn’t make any sense and directly refutes the argument you just made. If this person was asleep then they would not even see a deceiver coming as an angel of light. They’re sleeping, not awake to interact with the spirit world. And if they could see and experience these things, then it’s just as possible to actually see and interact with Jesus.

[@erickrogmann1881]

Start listening to you guys last year. Lostt my brother in November. I would like to say I know, but "believe" puts faith in God and doesn't rely on my intelligence, but God's word. I believe I will see Jesus and and my brother. I eagerly wait for the day that I can see justice triumph over sin in my life completely, forever. I want to have so much to say that God did for me because of His guidance, His direction, so I'm glad I found this extra content to add to my Bible study. I've started going to a church and I'm praying for my sanctification. God speed, brothers and sisters. Thank you again, Bible project, you have helped get through my grief and ignorance.

[@anon12338]

Thank you for sharing ❤ God is justice he has won us with Jesus. Our sins are forgiven. May God bless you.

[@104littleal6]

Yes, our sins have been forgiven. In fact, every person's sins, since the resurrection, have been forgiven. However, that forgiveness isn't "credited", if I may use that word, until/unless a person believes it. For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one *that believeth;* to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. Romans 1:16 (KJV) 4 Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt. 5 But to him that worketh not, but *believeth* on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. Romans 4:4-5 (KJV) 24 But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, *if we believe* on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead; 25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification. Romans 4:24-25 (KJV) *Look carefully at the sequence* 13 In whom ye also trusted, *after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of* *your salvation:* in whom also *after that ye believed,* ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, 14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory. Ephesians 1:13-14 (KJV) *The gospel that will save you* 1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you *the gospel* which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2 *By which also ye are saved,* if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that *Christ* *died for our sins* according to the scriptures; 4 *And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day* according to the scriptures: 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 (KJV)

[@wantedsavage7776]

Stay strong. Trust in God. God bless you Eric my Man!

[@wizzardofpaws2420]

I'm sorry you lost your brother.

[@erickrogmann1881]

@@wizzardofpaws2420 I hope we all get a chance to meet in heaven, he is a great guy ^_^

[@FamousAmos102]

Thank you for focusing on the endgame: the resurrection of the dead and heaven and earth coming together! You opened my baby Christian eyes up to this reality years ago and has increasingly been my focus. Thank you for your service to the body of Christ! While listening to this, God gave me a new perspective on Romans 8:39 - “nor height [heaven] nor depth [hell], nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord.” ‭‭Romans‬ ‭8‬:‭39‬ ‭ESV‬‬

[@benwalker578]

Thank you Holy Spirit! There's nothing I love more then getting clarity on God's word! I feel like I just ate a tasty meal! Jesus Christ my King!

[@O_tropos]

You ate a lie. The dead are not alive, scripture is clear on this

[@shirleyboberg84]

exactly how I feel.

[@brunobucciaratiswife]

I never truly understood heaven until listening to this podcast. My parents still believe in the “kingdom in the clouds” thing. I don’t care what happens to me when I die, I just hope that I am with Jesus and Our Lord. I’d be fine with simply not existing at all, or being in an eternal sleep.

[@amyhenningsgard8618]

Apostle Paul: “Absent from the body, present with the Lord.” He knew where he was going.

[@billykilpatrick1299]

But…..is that really what the Apostle Paul said?

[@joeysoto3604]

Heaven is the sky and universe. Its not that foolish to think that when people die they go to the sky or "out there".

[@Jess.E.]

@@billykilpatrick1299Definitely not.

[@peripheralvisionpdx8557]

This is how I felt for a long time until a mentor of mine challenged me that perhaps my beliefs were tide to my feelings towards myself. Could I begin love myself the way God loved me? I might crave a melting away of my individuality into permanent sleep, or non-existence in God. But Yahweh wishes to preserve what he loves and what he made me to be… and can I accept that too? It’s worth meditating on.

[@alienz8641]

23:58 and 24:59 for discussion on the actual afterlife (before the Resurrection) and the nature of the soul.

[@Itsaramis13]

Thank you for this

[@zionmama150]

26:36 when we die, our spirits ascend out of our bodies. And then we are acquainted with the Lord. We are not resurrected right away. That will not happen until Christ comes again.

[@TruthSeeker-1704]

Very thoughtful teaching- this is the understanding I was taught, raised as a Seventh-Day Adventist Christian. But I like how you’ve shown the big picture through all the scripture. I keep reading through the Bible and each time I get more clarity and realize some things I’ve believed have been man made tradition and not actually what Yahweh really said… thank you for your discussions ❤

[@hazelrodgers4896]

If you visit old cemeteries, look at the C18th headstones and see so often 'asleep in Jesus' written. Maybe our modern minds have forgotten what was previously known? Thank you for this discussion - good to get the brain working on scripture.

[@Son0fFlynn]

Jesus described death as sleep over 66 times

[@stevegeorge6131]

Because the biblical image of someone dead is like they're asleep. There is no soul sleep in the bible. Only the body is here. Paul said the same.

[@cognoscenticycles4351]

Jesus describes death as sleep and this makes perfect sense when we examine the scriptures that speak of the resurrection as those who are awoken to hear the voice of the Master and are raised from the dead. 1 Corinthians 15 speaks of being given new bodies which are immortal. This doesn't actually happen until Christ returns at the last trumpet. So while Christ is away, we sleep in death until one day when he returns to establish his kingdom.

[@Ohotnikova_]

I’m glad there are smart people in here! Yes, just like what happened to Lazarus, we are asleep.

[@mchristr]

@@Ohotnikova_ It's a little bit strange to contrast the "smart people" (untrained KZbin posters) with Dr. Mackie, who has an academic doctorate in biblical studies.

[@sunshinerose5831]

Jesus is my heaven. Wherever he is, that's where I want to go and spend eternity. He is my home.

[@kcmuanpuia]

"Today, you'll be with me in paradise."

[@helenayip4287]

I have always enjoy Bible projects on the books of the Bible. You are now doing "topical", I am so pleased with your video. Praise God for your work!

[@ujona]

Much appreciate to both brothers Jon and Tim! This conversations comes up all the time and folks need to ready their Bible consistently and daily. Luke 16:19-31 is a great example where our souls will be in Sheol where there is chasm between Believers and unbelievers. Once raptured, the dead in Christ will rise first then us. Thank you Lord Jesus!

[@TheLakingc]

Ha-ha! I read this sooo many years that the dead in Christ will soon be me instead of us or we. What a life it has been, too. Not in vain, though i iften wondered. Looking back is like reading my life in the Bible... my life reflects so many stories, verses, promises, principles... wow! My life would have been so different if i had known the Bible principles then like i do now, but somehow, God knits those times all together for His purposes, praise Him!

[@clarissagafoor5222]

The rapture isn`t in the Bible!

[@edison4eva]

Always looking forward for all these topics. Really helps me see the truth in the Bible.

[@Snowystardust12]

This was awesome! I also was raised thinking that a disembodied life in a non physical heaven is our true eternal life. This makes it hard to truly love and delight in this world, just as God loved this world enough to sacrifice his son. Your wonderful talks have liberated me from that platonic influence, illuminating that the Bible never rejects physical existence, and instead holds it as essential to our eternal being, and that’s why salvation is needed, to eventually grant us a resurrected (eternal) physical body, and a physical earth that is of the same nature as Jesus’ resurrected body. Thank you, this is a huge paradigm shift. I feel like I’m reconnected to Adam, who inherited this earth in order to serve God’s plan for it.

[@ariloves10]

WoW

[@jillchristine1561]

Such a beautiful, comforting discussion. Thank you so much ❤

[@newlifeprayerchain5859]

Job 19:25. But I know that my Redeemera lives, and in the end He will stand upon the earth.b 26Even after my skin has been destroyed, yet in my fleshc I will see God. 27I will see Him for myself; my eyes will behold Him, and not as a stranger. How my heart yearnsd within me

[@bethprather9241]

Im all in to hearing truth of Gods word but also in time and prayer Ive learned a lot about how heaven is where we want to go and if you teach anything that sounds worse than anythimg Ive heard or read too, I pray for discernment.. It is MUCH more than any of us know....

[@lady_679]

Forever grateful for your videos 🤗 Thank you Jesus 😊 Thank you Bible Project Team 🙏🏾

[@deirdretrotman2104]

Thank you so much. I adore Jesus but was steeling myself for gold streets and chrystal and praying that I would get to do just a bit of gardening! I don’t like bizzaz much but thought I was going to have to learn to live with it. Oh wow! Thank you Jesus ❤️🙏✝️

[@elizabethdanner3681]

This discussion makes me believe we will recognize those that go before us...

[@beateifarta]

These teachings are just soooo good. Thank you!

[@leahwandersee8806]

I LOVED this podcast! it gave me such a better understanding of the end of time as we know it. It is encouraging, and enlightening about where we are until the final judgement. Thank you Bible Project!! I can't wait for the new heaven on earth! (and that is not the scenario i grew up learning!!) :0)

[@erniea5843]

My son was just asking me about heaven this morning. Great timing for this podcast

[@nettefaceable]

❤ I love delving into His Word! Thank you!

[@anal.mendoza]

Blessings and greetings from Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic. Thanks for sharing this great episode!

[@user-alfredo-saucy]

❤

[@voidremoved]

Hey Tim and Jon all this talk about Jesus preparing a place for us made me think of Matthew 12:40 something but in an upside down way 43 When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest, and findeth none. 44 Then he saith, I will return into my house from whence I came out; and when he is come, he findeth it empty, swept, and garnished. 45 Then goeth he, and taketh with himself seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first. Even so shall it be also unto this wicked generation. 46 While he yet talked to the people, behold, his mother and his brethren stood without, desiring to speak with him.

[@apostolicway2604]

“Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: and whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?” ‭‭John‬ ‭11‬:‭25‬-‭26‬

[@natesuppon9650]

You will never DIE is the key. Immortality

[@ginatate9184]

I appreciate this video. This topic has been at the front of my mind often and you addressed this head on without skipping hard parts and talked it out. Thank you for making this video!

[@llkuhlj23]

When JESUS was transfigured in front of John, James, and Peter, he gave a glimpse of the dimension on which HE "dwells," on/at which we will join HIM, and into which HE has both provided the Way and HE IS The Way. Only those who have Faith in and follow GOD's Way of LOVE will be in that dimension with HIM.

[@tiff965]

As a 90s kid myself, I appreciate that he says God will make sure everything is "tight" 😆💕🤞

[@badmusoladimeji3163]

I am the first here. Thanks for your insightful teachings and illustrations on biblical truth....

[@kwakumike4998]

Jesus did not say: "I say unto you, today you will be with me in paradise." The translators placed the comma wrongly. It should rather be: "I say unto you today, you will be with me in paradise". because Jesus did not go to paradise the same day he was crucified.

[@adriansampson4443]

Consider Luke 16, or 2 Cor 12. Also Hades place of the dead Acts 2:27

[@poopypants660]

Hades is the place of the dead. It is a place of stillness and repose. I'll let you look up the scripture references. Luke 16 written to the people of the circumcision, the Jews. Jesus was throwing the Pharisees' beliefs right back in their faces, mocking them. The first shall be last, and the last first, but all will be with God in due time.

[@briandowling6663]

Paradise is earth. Heaven is Heaven. He said Paradise which equate to Eden.

[@briandowling6663]

@Lavender Trebuchet Absolutely

[@fruitofthespiritislovepeac4953]

​@Brian Dowling Heaven will be our new when Jesus Christ returns 🙏🏿. On Earth. We will not go up in sky.

[@jonesingblues4384]

I hope someone can answer a question regarding when Jesus transfigured on the mount and was talking to Moses and Elijah (Mat 17:1-6). In what state were Moses and Elijah? Disembodied state like the spirit of Samuel who was summoned by the Witch of Endor? Or did they have a glorified body that Jesus had after his resurrection?

[@upwardjourney2055]

Great question. Moses and Elijah were in a glorified body when they appeared with Jesus on the mount. If we trace the Bible narrative, we know there are two "ends" for a person before going to heaven: (1) like Elijah and Enoch, to be transported alive to heaven; (2) like Moses, to be resurrected from the dead [Jude said that Moses' body was claimed by Satan, but was rebuked by the word of the Lord; if Moses appeared to Jesus, that meant that Moses was resurrected.] That said, Moses and Elijah appeared in their glorified forms on the mount. As for the spirit "of Samuel," the witch said she saw the spirit coming up "from the earth." That's definitely not Samuel, but an impersonation by the devil.

[@meredithgreenslade1965]

i was always under the idea that when we die and are with Jesus, it's immediately the second coming, because time is only present here on earth.

[@akmroberts]

I haven’t listened yet, so this is a little premature, but I concur with you, earth is bound by time and space, heaven is “in” eternity. When you die, you leave time and enter eternity. The eons that continue to pass in time are not experienced by the dead, we all land up at the same place, instantaneously: the Great Judgement.

[@woowoo2358]

So does that mean Jesus is not coming back to Earth to save us but rather the second coming is us going to him???

[@tonyamcinvale-brown5950]

You are the only channel I trust to give me accurate Bible info.❤ God Bless.

[@jqa16]

My Tatay(Dad) died on March 8 2024. Pain and comfort at the same time knowing he's with Jesus 0 pain.

[@Itgyrl909]

Sorry for your loss, dear!

[@macsam8778]

Awesome explanations helping us to know God and His plans as intended, such wisdom! Thank you men of God showing us, JESUS in all these scriptures(truth).

[@MurrayPonics]

For the living know that they will die; But the dead know nothing, And they have no more reward, For the memory of them is forgotten. Ecclesiastes 9:5

[@tagr7269]

To live in a Garden of Eden together we all have to have the same rules and abide by them this is our chance right now to show God we can follow him and love each other

[@Ava-nq2wh]

Amen 🙏💛

[@sunnyweaver]

49:01 As I recognize that I am an image of God and I am a temple where His Spirit and my spirit dwell together by the power of the Messiahs death and resurrection I do life differently. My values change. What I live for is noticeably different from the main social/cultural systems of the time. What I do is motivated by a why that goes beyond any kind of world gain.

[@odessacee5664]

Abraham’s bosom = paradise…the same paradise that Jesus spoke of to the man on the cross. Today, you will be with me in paradise.

[@Spaniel2]

Love the in-depth discussion and interpretations. Thank you!

[@audofit]

I'm currently going through this workbook! I love it! It's changing my perspective so much and each session blows my mind!

[@juliaaap922]

Which work book are you going through right now?

[@audofit]

@Juliaaa P When Heaven Meets Earth: a 12 Part Biblical Study on Heaven :)

[@InovisIgaly]

Where can you get the work book?

[@bethprather9241]

Please reply I love the Lord and know I'm saved. I have some grounded beliefs and hard to change. They are great for those that are saved. Is it worth learning and truth?

[@yukisnowy03]

This is the truth! Before I am a born again Christian, never heard of Jesus or Christianity yet I see the almost the same! There’s angel and God is on His throne but can’t see the face. And a man figure beside the throne. Can’t see the face as well but after reading Isaiah everything linked. Bcos of this vision - I’m more clearer I’m on the right path. ❤❤ As few years back I suddenly have this visions of this angels with full off eyes which I have never seen before and scary but after googling and the bible verse shows up and another visions from God again. God will reveal only at His time.

[@denisebooth8963]

👑👑Z I really enjoy your videos thank you for taking the time. God bless you with abundance and all your dreams coming true❤🙏🏾

[@jenniferwatson7118]

This was a very interesting talk. The Bible says death is a 'sleep' - we wait in the grave until Jesus' 2nd Coming when He raises everyone who was a believer and joins them together with the righteous still alive and takes them to heaven for 1000 years in the city described in Revelation. The witch of Endor summoned an evil spirit impersonating Samuel, not Samuel himself, as the only person who can give life after death is Jesus.

[@danielmiller2886]

That’s an interesting viewpoint on Samuel that I haven’t heard before. Have you ever heard Michael Heiser’s comments around that passage? I think it relates well and its on KZbin.

[@PhysiqueFuel]

I’ve always heard that it wasn’t a spirit impersonating Samuel. Because Samuel actually scorned Saul. I don’t think a random spirit would give him the brutal truth like that? 🤷‍♂️ Then again I could be wrong.

[@vegacool1]

I smell a seventh day Adventist...

[@Bajannubian095]

@@vegacool1what’s wrong with the person comment ? They actually right

[@stevegeorge6131]

That's from cults teaching

[@resatobin4303]

Love that song!!! Thanks for the reminder as it made me smile. Song for the day! Come and go with me...., Sang all through football season because there was room to play football at my father's 🏡 house. Happy song Great tune

[@Chrisstian111]

I was always confused about the mansion in heaven since a mansion is a worldly desire. Something like that would not appeal to a spiritual being. I do not care if the streets are paved with gold etc.....I would just be happy being in heaven closer to God. 😁

[@cccccc1]

Mansion in the old english just means a temporary lodging place. Its come to mean a grand house over time.

[@chrisstian5729]

@@cccccc1 That makes sense Thank you for your reply :)

[@karenpayne1537]

What about when the disciples saw Moses and Elijah at the transfiguration?

[@itsseun7050]

I appreciate this conversation but frankly I’m more confused than before. Could we have a straightforward answer? Because there are people suffering in indescribable poverty and torture thinking all of it will pay off because they’ll be in a literal Heaven with streets of gold. Is it responsible to continue having them think like this if there’s no such thing?

[@CormackMcKinney]

"Could we have a straightforward answer?" The disciples wished the same thing! It's okay (although small minded) for them to hope for "streets of gold" because life with Jesus on the new earth will be even more beautiful and mind-blowing anyway (and, more importantly, a life of loving unity with our Messiah). They only think that way because that's what they were taught, and the people who taught them were reading the Bible through modern lenses. But salvation is not based on understanding everything, but on putting our hope and faith in the Lord! ❤️

[@rturn6355]

Good stuff. But, along those lines of more confused… Are Tim & Jon having a real conversation? Or, is Jon acting the role of “the typical (ignorant) Christian” to give Tim a platform to teach? I find this talk-it-out method can work well, but here I get distracted away from Tim’s teaching by the way he and Jon giggle throughout important points and Bible reading. I get it… It takes time to break down long-standing preconceived notions and you want to be cool n’ casual for the modern listener who isn’t familiar w/ scholarly shocking paradigm shifts…but, the play-out here is a bit too cool & casual (for me). As I listen, I’m thinking… please stop giggling and bring it a bit more directly. I don’t mean to be too critical, just critical. Your style seems to dumb down both the material and audience, neither of which you intend.

[@lewis72751]

@@CormackMcKinney 100% agreed!

[@dovesrun]

There is really such a thing. It says so in the Bible

[@FAITH-UP-MINISTRY]

Heaven is a REAL place!

[@LikeFrankWhite]

Love this one guys! I feel like I really learn a lot about Yahuah with y’all theses day 🙌🏾🙌🏾

[@steveaird9347]

YAHWEH

[@Summerbunny15]

@@steveaird9347 - In the Twi (Asante) language, we also say Yehuah.

[@steveaird9347]

@@Summerbunny15 I know that now don't know that before

[@janiceking6955]

But if we're just disembodied spirits, which I have no problem with because anything with Jesus is going to be wonderful! And in the presence of God? O my.. But if we are just spirits how did the rich man recognized Lazarus? We will recognize each other's spirits? Whatever, I'm not going to worry about it because seems it's just a temporary situation until we get our redeemed bodies. And I know God doesn't make any mistakes or wish later He had done something differently! 🙌🙌🙌

[@CrossCory]

Interesting his choice of words, using “hope” to describe that we have no clue if we will exist after death in a way that is truly understandable.

[@toshareberson8469]

I love this topic. It's very good. Not many pastors or churches or Bible study really zone in on the paradoxes within Paul and John talking about heaven and earth and how Jesus describes the two becoming one as it was from in the beginning. If you understand that God created the heavens and the earth they were one. So it's a returning from what I'm perceiving and what I'm understanding of what was from in the beginning. This is beauty within truth and truth within beauty of how God is restoring what was from the beginning but totally changing it or returning it or re-establishing what is to come? I hope that I am perceiving this correctly. If not, please reply back. I love your project and may God continue and bless you on your journey of spreading the truth of his word. Amen

[@lasaritameneses]

Hello, first, Thank you! But... how can you believe that it was actual Samuel that spoke through the witch of Endor. Doesn't 1 Chronicles 10:13-14 say the opposite? If Saul didn't consult God, I don't think Samuel, a prophet of God, answered. You probably already answered this, could you share your answer? Thanks so much for all your work.

[@shakiyla.A_]

I found this odd also, cause anyone who deals with witchcraft is dealing with evil spirits. I think we need true revelation through reading in spirit.

[@Lennoxx]

I like the message at the end. It’s essentially that what I believe God is trying to portray, a world anew living in unison with God.

[@carollamey5759]

Thank you so much for making everything so clear and understandable.

[@DLee1100s]

"It's the only story like it in the entire Bible, where a person who is dead, their presence or life presence makes an appearance" (29:12 - 29:56). What about the Transfiguration? Don't Moses and Elijah make an appearance?

[@jeanavo3865]

The kingdom of heaven is at hand. Jesus Christ.

[@seus2731]

if going by what John and Tim are saying, can someone tell me how then we interpret 1 Peter 3: 18-22? There Peter tells us after his crucifixion Jesus went to see the imprisoned spirits who were disobedient from long ago, even from the time of the flood... is Peter trying to tell us that indeed, the spirits of obedient believers go to one place, and the spirits of disobedient ones go to another place?

[@MC-zk7pj]

The spirit that was summoned by the witch of Endor during the “magic” ceremony was not Samuel at all. The Bible says that it was perceived to be Samuel, when it was actually a demonic entity impersonating Samuel. Witchcraft is something that God absolutely abhors and would not allow the spirit of a dead man to be brought forth by a witch. In fact, it’s this communion that Saul has with the demon that ultimately seals his fate. I believe that scripture makes it clear that when we are dead, we are dead. Anyone that has ever died (with the exception of those translated or specially resurrected, like Elijah and Moses) is asleep in the grave and awaiting resurrection. You’ll be raised to eternal life or you’ll be raised to condemnation, as mentioned by Jesus.

[@shakiyla.A_]

Exactly!

[@tgif1207]

But what about the "absent from the body, present with the Lord" part? I just can't believe we are ever "just dead" as our human bodies are just shells for our true souls.

[@CanadianVacations]

@@tgif1207 Yes exactly the body dies, but the sou does not. So many people seemed to have visited hell in near death experiences and come back to life and then warn others. It seems there is a peaceful, happy resting place too. Is the story of Lazarus literal? It seems the evil master in his place of torment could see Lazarus in his place of peace.

[@toastle8005]

While I sympathise, as I have thought this most of my life, take comfort in the fact that it *doesn’t matter*. I’m serious, consider it. Even if we were only our physical bodies, and we really did die, or sleep, between the Resurrection- we would *still be with the Lord*. If God sees all, knows all and remembers absolutely everything that will ever happen, with perfect clarity, and down to the tiniest detail- and that he will never forget or decay in that memory- Then God will NEVER FOREGT you. Not the idea of you, or how your friends know you, or even how you know or remember yourself. He will know EXACTLY, every thought, memory, desire, every cell that has ever been in your body and everything you have ever done, PRECISELY. To the smallest detail. He would understand you utterly fairly, as exactly what you were, currently are, and will become. He could recreate you with an honesty and complexity that we could never match, and He doesn’t need you peering over His shoulder while you do it to get the ‘real you’, that somehow even He couldn’t see without your help. No, he could perfectly remember and remake you, no matter how much time passes or whatever happens to creation. Even if you are only a physical creature, he could still recreate and keep you alive and well for eternity. I do not know if we have a soul, and we might or might not. But if we DO have a soul, it could be DESTROYED UTTERLY, and God wouldn’t go, ‘oh, shoot! Well, guess we can’t ever get her back, that soul-stuff was a one-off, now that her soul’s gone she can’t have eternal life. Guess everything she was is lost forever.’ God could recall and remember you with more accuracy than any supercomputer we could ever make, and being God himself, the knowledge of who and what you are is stored in the safest place in the universe- the memory of the Lord, Creator of everything, who remembers you perfectly. So, if you’ve listened to my clumsy rambling on, my best advice I could possibly pass on is this: It *wouldn’t even matter*- God’s got you anyway, and He’s never going anywhere!

[@hyacinthsnow5615]

This is so eye opening. Thank you so much. I truly grateful

[@user-alfredo-saucy]

❤

[@yollexart]

48:30 this is sooooo deep. I think this is always what confused me. What happens when I die, before Christ returns again and who is here with me until then. Now I see it much better. Christ died and sent the Holy Spirit to guard and guide us until he comes back to unite heaven and earth together and Jesus is still with us along with the Holy Spirit still with us and Jesus is what connects us with God even though we are not with God we care connect through Jesus and the Holy Spirit and a whole new world is to come and we will all be untied...? Right?

[@andrewselbyphotography]

I'm thankful for the Orthodox Church's guidence on these concepts, especially coming from an evangelical background where it seems there has been a lot of drift from the truth over the years.

[@Passione13]

So I'm a little confused about something. When they refer to "Abraham's bosom" or the room in the Father's house, how are they different from the idea of purgatory? They seemed to be firm in the idea that no one goes up anywhere, but -- correct me if I'm wrong -- is there not a passage in the Bible where it says the "dead know nothing" or something to that affect? Basically, when we die before the second coming no one is conscious and can praise or do anything? But what they're saying here seems to suggest that we do? Help me because now I'm confused.

[@Kb20221]

There is no purgatory only the lake of fire and the kingdom of God. Revelation 20:13-15 (KJV) 13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. 14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. Hell is the grave ^ Revelation 22:14-15 (KJV) 14 Blessed [are] they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. 15 For without [are] dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

[@missxealaneous7713]

I am almost all the way in agreement with you both. We differ in one place in particular. However, I thank you for explaining this topic with such grace and gentleness.

[@stilllearning7981]

What part do you disagree with?

[@debradesanto6946]

My Lord tells me that yeshua and Yaweh are full of deep secrets and the word says he'll be with us in eternity. ❤

[@ttg122]

Amen, I am thankful for our Heavenly Father Yahuah for Sending the Son into the World to bear our transgressions and sins so that we may have communion with our Heavenly Father.

[@tiosurcgib]

Heroic attempt by both Tim and John to try to give form and explain a whole area of theology that's one huge question mark. I hear that understanding of treading on quicksand in Tim's voice. Jesus' responses to me sound very much to be saying 'just TRUST. At this time you can't begin to know. Remember that damned tree right at the beginning!'

[@TheCreepypro]

help us to view heaven and earth the way you want us to Lord

[@ihamrodriguez6238]

Thank you for these podcasts.

[@toodlypip77]

Thankyou guys for your explanation, a great discussion. xx

[@daniellove1140]

Fascinating podcast! Thank you.

[@bethprather9241]

Ive been hearing this and everytime it goes to John 14... I pray or click out. Why? At 56 probably every single funeral in my life at least 97% uses this scripture, for comfort.. I'm praying this better be more and better than anything I've learned...lol It will be something we can't comprehend . We sang that song at church with kids a lot in my 30's

[@SilasJSantos]

Hey guys a couple of questions 1. Does the Greek text say “I’m going to prepare a place” or “ I’m going to make preparation”? Is the word place in the text? 2. Does the angel tell John that he is going to show a heavenly temple or city where the church dwells? Or he said I’m going to show you “the bride”? Is it possible that the New Jerusalém is a metaphorical portrait of the church herself? Or the glory of the church in order to comfort them in the persecutions and martyrdom?

[@akmroberts]

I know you are asking BibleProject but I just wanted to say I found your comments very interesting! I don’t know Greek but am something of a Revelation nerd. The holy city is indeed a metaphorical picture of the bride, with an emphasis on the combined saints of Jews and gentiles. Compare the priestly breastplate to the holy city and note the key difference from a Jewish perspective, namely the 12 tribes of Israel AND the 12 apostles written under the stones, it’s fascinating! But I think it is also a place, a city; a vision of God’s ultimate people in God’s ultimate place, under his ultimate rule. 21:1-8 and 22:1-5 have a slightly different emphasis to 21:9-27. Also note context: 21ff. is after some extremely final judgement in Ch. 20.

[@brenmanock]

Thanks so much for the discussion. It helps my understanding.

[@elizabethwhitworth]

Regarding the death of Samuel, you say, “It has to do with God’s commitment to not let His beloved people be destroyed by death, but He preserves the life of His people beyond death and through death and out into new creation.” This seems to say that death destroys but that God doesn’t let death destroy His people even though they die. What is death, then? Are you saying that it destroys some and not others? If so, by what mechanism?

[@johannaamor9939]

It was a demon spirit poised as Samuel.

[@elizabethwhitworth]

@@johannaamor9939 I agree that's the best explanation for the evidence.

[@Snowystardust12]

It seems that if we love Jesus, this love bond will hold us in the interim until the new creation. This love holds us after death, but also holds while on earth, so we can partake of Grace while in our fallen state. And, It seems that Jesus’ love for us doesn’t just hold/shelter us…it’s an abode…but it’s an abode where his creative activity and power are at work …for what is he doing in the interim?…isn’t he actively working to create the new Jerusalem? If we abide in his love, we may be able, while living on earth, to contribute toward this new creation. I’m so grateful your talks and videos are correcting the mistake that Christian eternal life is something that happens in a heavenly afterlife. That idea loses the one and only purpose of Christ’s birth, death and resurrection : salvation is Christ Jesus creating (in himself) a new world, a new humanity where heaven and earth are united. It seems to me, in his body/being, the new Jerusalem already exists , albeit in ‘sprout’ form, and he wants us to learn to abide in him, so we can partake in this new blood (His way of being) and new body (earth) born at His resurrection, born In Him.

[@iokafo]

I like the bible project but I do not like this episode. How is it that 21st century believers think that 2000 years of theological thinking is suddenly inaccurate? Each generation arises and thinks it has figured out what other generations could not. Worse still we somehow feel we have access to deeper insight - deeper than our Fathers in the faith. This pleasant dialogue between these two gentlemen is just what it is - a dialogue that is not steeped in divine revelation. Guys please stop these fleeting and fanciful excursions. “ The prophet that hath a dream, let him tell a dream; and he that hath my word, let him speak my word faithfully. What is the chaff to the wheat? saith the LORD.” - Jer 23:28

[@johnekene-sz8we]

You guys are definitely doing a great great work

[@babysnowowl]

I know this is an older posted video. But, I really needed this. I have found myself, very randomly, being terrified of death. No dying necessarily but what happens after. I know it will all be good but for some reason I am so scared of the change from body to soul. Im scared lf what it will consist of. What it will feel like. It's so silly to say but I am scared of the change that will happen in my reality. I know heaven is a beautiful peaceful place.. so why I am so scared of it? But, this video has provided good insight. Thank you.

[@Serasugee]

I turned back to Christianity as I was having multiple panic attacks a day about death (silly as I am only 19). I then started hearing some Christians don't even believe in an afterlife. I don't know if I'm ready to watch this video yet but the comments give me hope. Whether I'm awake immediately or not until Christ's return it's okay.

[@Sh1J0d0rI96]

Great video, but not sure if I agree with all of it. The Bible seems to describe death as a sleep, including Jesus and Paul. I would think that your spirit lays dormant within your body, instead of having an out of body experience (which would explain The Witch of Endor story). And that Jesus taking you by himself will come when he returns and we rise from death restored. But I do agree that He might've tried to comfort them rather then tell them about the afterlife.

[@MostlyNotDps]

More than anything, I am hoping you do a podcast on hell. I caught a lecture you gave where you talked about this prevalent belief that hell is a place where bad people go and burn and I really wish there was time in the lecture to just listen to you expand on what you were talking about.

[@SpencerDT6]

@bibleproject, can you create a video explaining Christian Nationalism in the U.S.? So much divisive talk is turning many Christian’s away from the church in my community as it can be so toxic and anti what I know about Jesus. I’d love for you all to dive into it.

[@Keonny77]

Definition of spirit/ruach: “The basic meaning of ruach is both 'wind' or 'breath,' but neither is understood as essence; rather it is the power encountered in the breath and the wind, whose whence and whither remains mysterious

[@CarriedbyGod254]

I love you guys. Thanks God for your lives.

[@tasteef1]

@BibleProject can you please create a video about marriage in the Bible? How we should prepare for our husband's and wives? How we should live or be to our husband or wives?

[@ScottFrye000111222]

WHen the Bible uses the word " Asleep" it means a body laying horizontally after that person has passed.(Like theyre asleep) It doesnt mean soul sleep.

[@4111JoJo]

the SOUL is what man became once he had the breath of life given to him by Jehovah God. the "SOUL" isn't something that leaves the body, as many are taught, once one had died. we are SOULS right now, because we are alive. *Gen. 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.* Notice what was said concerning Noah and his family, *1Pet. **3:20** who formerly were disobedient, when once the Divine longsuffering waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was being prepared, in which a few, that is, eight souls, were saved through water.* there were NO ghostly *"SOULS"* that enter the Ark, were there? peace

[@4111JoJo]

@larysnw418 so true! as Jehovah words showed in the book of Revelation. the sea gave up the dead.

[@catherinesinclair7727]

This was really really insightful ..wow..loved it and learned so much

[@raquelitta]

Mindblown with the Info on how creation also shows examples of firstborn invertion.

[@KawaiiMiri]

So the Lord already came by bringing the Trinity to the bodily temple of the believer by the Holy Spirit? The raising of the dead is the raising of the Spirit body of the believer on his last day of death? I'm confused here, are we or are we not going to be resurrected when He returns and all eyes will see? Won't those who wait for his return come back or are they just chilling as the living dead we can't see. I mean Moses, Elijah, Enoc, mother Mary, they are living Spiritual beings since they have been seen. So what's going on?

[@philcox3]

“Inherent immortality” of a human soul? Where is the scriptural basis for that view? I thought scripture was pretty clear that eternal life (e.g., immortality) was given once we accepted Jesus?

[@gabegia6813]

This is the first time I cant understand the video because it lacks of supporting verses. Still love the other videos .

[@kevinfancher9591]

John 14

[@heavensarmyforamerica3523]

Bible Project, Elijah and Moses had been dead many years before Peter, James, and John saw them on the Mount of Transfiguration with Jesus. Where have they been this whole time? Was it just a time jump and is what took place when they met with the Angel of the Lord in the Old Testament?

[@jobennett1604]

Help me pre-order or download the Heaven Book. I am becoming a Bible Project geek! And I need this workbook!

[@doughammond8932]

The mansions in the Father's house are our glorified bodies, of which the Lord dwelling in us at present is the earnest. The full adoption is when we receive these bodies (Rom 8:23-25). Read 2 Cor 5:1-5, these verses make it very clear.

[@DoyleHargraves]

What is wrong with being asleep until judgement. I can imagine being in need of a nap after 85 yrs.

[@Anabee399]

Thank you, men, of God. This channel is genius and all glory to God. Well done, good and faithful servants. Blessings through Christ Jesus.🙏🙌💓

[@divinedarkey47]

You know when Adam and Eve rebelled, were driven out of the garden of Eden and cursed. Their post-garden Eden life was on earth right? With their direct descendants? What's confusing is "Is the garden of Eden on earth" or "God teleported Adam and Eve to earth"?

[@DanahC]

I am the 2nd, you know this story..... Love you guys, thank you for the Hebrew view