Biblical Unitarianism: A Hijacked Religion - by Kent H. Ross & J. Dan Gill

Theologian & professor of church history, Kent Ross talks with J. Dan Gill about the One God faith often referred to as "Biblical Unitarianism." Kent talks about those who were One God believers during the Reformation & how the Unitarianism of the Reformation period was "hijacked" by what has come to be known as Unitarian-Universalism.
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[@szalard]

Cheers from Transylvania from a Unitarian! We are from 1568 Unitarians here, 65,000 Hungarian people proud of being Unitarians. Our great founder, Dávid Ferenc (Francis David) proclaimed here his faith, and also, in 1568, the Freedom of Religion for the first time in Europe, and died in 1579 for his faith, being our martyr and leader. From that time until today, through centuries of persecutions, both from Catholics and Calvinists, we profess the oneness of God and the respect for Jesus. I was surprized when you said that you found here symbols of the UUC, who we believe to be not Christians, and in many ways sinners. Maybe there were some gifts from them, but surely these were not parts of our beliefs and church objects. It is nothing more far from our beliefs than the out-of-Christianity, pro-transgender and lgbtq ideas of the UUC. If we would accept these, we would betray our great founder, Francis David, or the second most important personality of our Church, György Enyedi, whom we respect very much.

[@jacksonfl]

Greetings from Jacksonville Florida USA. My wife and I were faithful Unitarian Universalists for over 30 years, and I served on the board of the Unitarian Universalists Service Committee. Unitarian Universalism no longer is primarily a religious community. Rather, it is social justice organization, with chaplains to keep up the morale. Just look at the resolutions jammed through the annual General Assemblies. This movement has become so Woke that we finally needed to leave. And, yes, Unitarian Universalism has appropriated the identity of historical Unitarianism. NOTHING happening in those congregations bears any relationship to Unitarianism or Universalism.

[@rickyphillips6561]

If unitarians are heretics, then Jesus Christ himself would also be a heretic. He was an orthodox Jew. He believed that his Heavenly Father is the one and only true God. He also went against the Pharisees and Scribes every time they confronted him. God was in Jesus Christ(II Corinthians 5:19). If you tried to confront a staunch Trinitarian with these facts today, you can practically see the hairs starting to bristle up on his back.

[@Daurentius322]

Absolutely, it is also worth mentioning that Trinitarians tend to have this major problem with everyone who does not go along with their pagan doctrine whereas I as an Unitarian have no problem with anybody because I wholeheartedly believe that it is not up to me to decide who does or does not believe in GOD, He Himself will do that so why would I have to hate or even want to kill someone for not believing what I believe like the Trinitarians have entreated those who did not conform to their dictations of what it means to be a Christian? It really is mind boggling if you think about it, even Isaac Newton who himself was a staunch Unitarian, was prohibited from sharing information about this and was branded a heretic in his day and to top it all off just recently a number of scholars resurveyed the case of Isaac Newton and they have confirmed that even by today's "modern" standards he is still considered a heretic, all because he rejected the trinity and accepted a religiosity which was more in line with what the earliest Christians such as the Nazarenes believed so it goes without saying that this earthly fervor of the Trinitarians might be a hint of the fact that they might not know Jesus and his Father in the first place.

[@hommerecorder7003]

Yes. The old bullshit of stinkig thinking. Philosophic mystical tnitity from the Agypt and Greek.

[@Tim3is]

Thanks for this history lesson. Blessings.

[@bardowesselius4121]

Excellent info.

[@dekka213l]

Man!!! That was heavy Duty disambiguation!!! Thank you!

[@jacksonfl]

Just watched this marvelous interview again. Prompted me to recall an incident during a worship service in my large and influential congregation. The minister lead the folks in a responsive reading relevant to the service, which included the word "God" three times. It was so audible that the bulk of the congregation gagged when trying to say that very word. Later, the minister told me that several parishoners expressed anger to her for picking a reading that included the word. What a mess. So misguided. By the way, at the time of the 1961 merger of Unitarianism and Universalism, the combined movement had about 150,000 members, a paltry group by national standards. Well over 100,000 of these were from Unitarian congregations, and the tiny remainder from Universalism. In effect, both traditions were almost extinct. Today, over 60 years later, Unitarian Universalism claims to have THE SAME NUMBER of members,even though the U.S. population has doubled during that time! It is going nowhere. What a missed opportunity.

[@watchtoweralert1]

excellent

[@theguyver4934]

I prey that this branch of christianity will become mainstream

[@tsevaoth]

Trinitarian murderes are still proud for their legacy, I am very curious what Jesus says about a doctrine hwo killed people not far in history, see the Racovian catechism for example. And if course i would like to ask apostle Paul, hey is ok to call heretic a believer in Jesus if he doesn’t share my vision about Jesus like I do?

[@RexFuturi]

The Trinity is one of the original heresies. Unfortunately, it won and was sponsored by the Empire.

[@davidboamah6679]

Thanks

[@budmangt2]

The Word Became Flesh (John 1:1-14) meaning: Jesus is God in human flesh.

[@jdaze1]

All believers conceived of the fathers incorruptible seed (I Peter 1:23 KJV) are ONE with the Father. The word doesn't become flesh until it's formed IN YOU then YOU become a divine elohim. Not Elohim. You become a risen new man, a new creation, a new Adam. The same way Jesus did clearly stated in Romans 1:3-4. The logos is the Father not a separate person as trinitarians teach. Which is heresy and contradicts ALL scripture. Deut 13, Hosea 13:4, Isaiah 43:10-15, Jer 16:19-21 KJV. Put not your trust in Princes nor a SON OF MAN in whom there is NO SALVATION psalm 146:3.

[@mtalk828]

❤ My dear, the Greek word for "flesh" here is sarx, which also means "manifested." So, it could read the Word (or, logos) became manifested... Not became physical flesh the Trinitarians view it. The passage can read, "The Word became manifested" in Jesus Christ. I believe this is in tune with the rest of scripture where we see G'd is One, and no man see G'd and live (Exodus 33:20). 🙏🏽🙂

[@Eclectifying]

Budman, that is your interpretation of that verse.

[@emmanuelyahaya-nh9fq]

Ask a Greek Scholar to translate it because he or she will tell you that the verse means Jesus was divine or a god not god Almighty

[@RalphHumphries-th1ym]

Thanks appreciate you guys, I'm a biblical Unitarian and Jesus is God's Son and Messiah and people who are willing to talk about the Bible and not argue about it because I'm not trying to do that LoL but how great the father's love that we should be called children of God and of his Christ, yeah God is one and understanding that he gave his only begotten Son and Jesus is the Christ and he's been given all authority, no prob, he is Lord and love him for it

[@Eclectifying]

The universalism didn’t “creep in”. Two Christian denominations joined together, and then together they drifted from Christianity altogether.

[@greglance4335]

The lesson I learn from Joseph Preistly is God the Father is the one true God, but also not to get caught up in the world - which I think he did. This is my opinion from reading Wikipedia. He seems to have gotten blindsided by the age he was born into and by the deists - men like Thomas Jefferson who took the scissors to the Bible - a lesson for all of us. It looks like he didn't believe in a personal devil. Is that correct?

[@EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts]

Amusingly, this means that the Almohads, the Almoravids and the Unitarians have the same name: The monotheists.

[@Eclectifying]

It’s not the universalism that was the problem. Universalism is not the same thing as humanism. There was a Christian universalist denomination when there was a Christian Unitarian denomination. They ended up joining together and after that point the movement went completely astray.

[@yeshuareina3879]

Any apostle in your Bible claim Christ is God? Just curious, my Bible does have that claim made by apostles of Christ. And where did you get your beliefs if not from the First Christians???

[@Eclectifying]

Jesus even called Satan a god. He also called himself a man, and called the Father the one true God. I’m going with what Jesus clearly stated, not what his enemies think he meant, and not some misunderstanding of how his apostles described him in passing. If they really meant to say that a man is God, they would have had a lot more explaining to do! But somehow they just mentioned this supposed all-important revaluation in passing. I’m not buying that.

[@emmanuelyahaya-nh9fq]

Where

[@mwatts-riley2688]

So What is the definition of Messiah? Is it one with divinity or is it (Anionted )sp* ? Or is the Man of Men?

[@youngknowledgeseeker]

Messiah is a Hebrew word that means "Anointed", which essentially means to smear (with oil). In Greek it is translated Christ. There were several different anointed peoples in the Bible. Priests, elders of Moses, kings of Israel (David and Saul), Cyrus. However Jesus was a "super-ultimate" Christ you could say. And yes as far as I know, Christ/Messiah had nothing to do with being God.

[@davidstout6051]

I would be inclined to agree with the biblical Unitarian position and am a bit curious about the 21st Century Reformation group. Is it a branch of Oneness Pentecostalism or does it arise from other sources and backgrounds?

[@RoseSharon7777]

It has nothing to do with Oneness Pentecostal. However most people who become Biblical Unitarians were former Oneness Pentecostal or trinitarians.

[@greglance4335]

Biblical Unitrianism is different to Oneness. Both believe Jesus did not pre-exist as a second person, but was begotten in the womb of Mary by the Holy Spirit. They have a different understanding of how this happened. Also both believe the Holy Spirit is not a third eternal God person, but have difference on exactly what thE Holy Spirit is. There are many other differences in other theological teachings.

[@chriswesterman5331]

Google is your friend. It is not a branch of Oneness Pentecostalism.

[@williamkelly3130]

I my self am a trinitarian who is leaning towards Biblical Unitarianism, it seems this Unitarian understanding is that Yahweh is God the Father, Jesus is a Man Of Men yet a special Man in respect to the Virgin birth in which Yahwehs Spirit worked in Mary for that Conception..The Spirit being not another God but Yahwehs Spirit... As for Oneness pentecostals which is Quite different in that God is Father in creation, God becomes the Son in Salvation and God becomes Holy Spirit in Regeneration..Hope's that Help

[@kimleitch3854]

NO I do not think its Pentecostal.

[@JerryStanaway]

Universalism refers to the teaching , that some believe is biblical, that no one experiences eteranl punishment after death. Some biblical unitarians believed this. Unitarian Universalists was originally a merger between Unitarians and Universalists.

[@lets_wrapitup]

@SETH BAKER for those who’s sins haven’t been forgiven, they are saved after having recompensed their sin in hell right?

[@Eclectifying]

Thank you, Jerry. People have as many misconceptions about Christian universalists as they do about biblical Unitarians.

[@JamalBaruch]

Unfortunately unitarian’s should be calling themselves true Christians but can’t. Due to the faith being hijacked by Roman influenced paganism over the last 1600 or so years. Christian’s believe in Jesus the Christ, the messiah and what he taught was the way to salvation.

[@felixguerrero6062]

Unitarianism found no where in Scripture

[@Michael-Archonaeus]

Literally on every page lol

[@Eclectifying]

Trinitarianism os definitely nowhere in Scripture! Unitarian is just a term used to contrast with trinitarian. It describes the view that God is one, which is literally the shema, part of the greatest commandment. There is no such thing as three persons in one being. People made that up to fit their doctrine.