John 1:1-18 John's Prologue - Reconsidered - by Anthony Buzzard and J. Dan Gill

[@acts2583]

Excellent work here. Wish everyone would listen to this and take it to heart.

[@christ4u2now]

Great job. Thanks for the teaching. God bless.

[@janicemorton7581]

thanks for peeling away the 'trinity' garbage

[@achalaymanta]

Thanks for lighting my understanding about the word /words of my father

[@laura-loves-god]

I've found that a great many people who call themselves Christian, but who don't go to church, don't actually know that mainstream christian churches are preaching that Jesus is God. When I tell them that this is what these churches teach, they are shocked because I think most people instinctively know that there is one God, the Father, and Jesus is the Messiah, the Son of God (i.e. not God Himself).

[@MainPointMinistries]

Very interesting experience 🤔🤔

[@c.aamold]

I can relate as one of those people. On my own studies till entering a church the conclusion was that's my spiritual brother whom we are taught by to know God our Father is Jesus my Messiah the Son of God, he can explain him best since we cant yet see God ourselves in our condition like Moses. Jesus who is my King and Lord on this earth and the new and we both worship our Father OUR GOD. I look at him as the first of our kind as we were meant to be through Adam (but he failed). Adam wasn't God before he sinned and broke that connection where God could no longer dwell with him as he now can do thanks to his Son, giving us his firstborn as the Jews played out by doing that for God with their sons and perfect sacrifices. Trinity literally makes my head spin because through fear I am trying to believe in it like others but they don't make any sense to the point they themselves say they don't even fully understand it, but do it or else...which that belief has killed people in the past for thinking otherwise. The fact the spirit of God are not these things as our Messiah taught...confusion, fear, killing, tells me (if not the whole Bible already disproving it) this trinity is straight up wrong and blasphemous, I also came to the conclusion through Daniel, it is what the wild beast will say to fool the world when he comes. If it's this confusing you go by the fruits....and the fruits are poison and wrathful. And only brings conflict and divisiveness that I do not see from the people that say God is One, who typically stay quiet or do not fight or kill for it or force it. True love does NOT force or coerce. I still try and find a way to make sense of this trinity, because even though I will die for my conclusion, I would like to not have to, but they're not giving me any good reason to not to thats 100% convincing when it comes time for it again. I know who will call himself God...I know who will say he is equal (and better) to God and who will TRY and go up against the Prince and fall. It's not Jesus, for Jesus is the Prince and he will give all credit to his Father, Our God.

[@etheligidigba410]

​@@c.aamold I love what you wrote. You explain my understanding of who God the father is, and who jesus the son is. Check out the channel "the trinity delusion" it will even help you see more how incoherent and illogical the trinity doctrine is. It's pure idolatry.

[@c.aamold]

@ethel igidigba thank you, and yes, I love that guy, he explains it so simple, it's like refreshing water after watching debates and "proof of trinity" videos that scramble my head lol. You have a good day 💖

[@BesserGlauben]

Jesus is God.

[@normanmcdermid1951]

I agree wholeheartedly with this.

[@diosdadoapias]

Read that particular verse in relation to the whole texts of the book of John.

[@jeffturner1894]

I thought that Paul told Timothy that the word of GOD was for correction, rebuke and etc. not to be corrected. Any other parts of the bible your fleshly mind want to to change ?

[@ramluma]

what is your point? ancient greek language and hebrew language had no uppercase and lowercase letters. all letters were one size.

[@ramluma]

just like my reply.

[@11304800]

God made Jesus Christ--so when we say Jesus is God --we take away God's glory!! Hebrews 1:4 “Being MADE so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.” John 14:28 “Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.” God was the God of Jesus Ephesians 1:3 “Blessed- be -the -God- and -Father- of -our- Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:”

[@fayezmina3187]

No Trinity is in the Bible

[@larryjones2346]

Where?

[@jesusloves316]

@@larryjones2346 Where? What does that mean?

[@lwmaynard5180]

NIMROD was the author of the TRINITY Deities , a OPPOSER OF JEHOVAH a PAGAN TITLE ? ? ? A CATHOLIC APOSTATE DOCTRINE A TWISTED MISINTERPRETATION OF THE SCRIPTURES ? ? ?

[@brandenfredericks5803]

Can you speak to John 1:15, in which John the Baptist says that the one coming after him existed before him, when we know John was actually 6 months older than Jesus?

[@donnyetta]

Brilliant. My confusion is, who is the master worker in Proverbs 8?

[@johndavid3474]

Your answer is in verse 12. “I wisdom”

[@donnyetta]

@@johndavid3474 Jesus IS wisdom. My mother is kindness - Her main quality.

[@ThePelicular]

Lady wisdom, another personification not to be taken literally. While you can be sure many godly women are very wise and have Godly wisdom there is no actual Lady Wisdom or literal Lady Wisdom and even if these women personify God's wisdom because they have God's Holy Spirit, Lady Wisdom is still just a name and wisdom really does not have a specific gender. What's in a name wisdom by any other name would be just as wise.

[@matthewbehrens8759]

Does anyone know the 8 different translations before the Kjv?

[@lwmaynard5180]

The Geneva bible , The bishops bible , Olivetan bible , Coverdale bible , Complutsion bible , Vulgate bible , Wycliffe bible , Tyndale bible , The Great bible ? ? ? There would have been German , French and Spanish bibles and other ancient languages before the King James Bible ? ? ?

[@BatWayne6]

Stoicism was created in the 5th century BC. The word “Logos” was commonly understood at that time to be a literal word of speech or, philosophically, the universal word of creation, very vague language for the creator. So John using this word logos could be him essentially saying, “This philosophy of the Logos that you have heard about that has brought everything into existence is none other than almighty God.” By doing this John was giving the gentiles their own Genesis 1 account. Side note, I like to think of John 1:1-13 as the most bad ass wrestler into music for Jesus who is enters the ring at vs 14.

[@georgekoshy4656]

What is meant by, "He was in the beginning with God " Jn. 1:2.

[@cygnustsp]

No Greek pronoun for "he"

[@franckj2735]

Amen, 🙏

[@heydadd]

Greetings from bro Rory

[@JohnSmith-le5oe]

The Word was with God. How was word with him?

[@quetzelmichaels1637]

The Son of David is the Lamp of the Light of his Father, and the Word of the Will of his Father, David, the Morning Star, your king who will be raised up for you. In this, as the Lamp and Word, the Father and I are one. Jesus is a thrid-party to this world and these heavens and ascends beyond the heavens themselves. He was sent to the Father as his only begotten Son by the Holy Spirit. God is Spirit. Creation is about the plan of salvation. The ruler of this world has been judged. The Father you spring from is the Devil. The ruler or this world was cast down to Earth with his people and angels, who are the evil spirits in mortal bodies. The God of this world has blinded the minds of the unbeliever. Now is the time of judgment on this world; now the ruler of this world will be driven out. (Joh 12:31 NABO) Christ was there in the beginning. Without him, nothing was created, with him, the plan of salvation could be carried out by him since he was without sin. He began his work as the first Adam and is with you always, until the end of the age. There are two appearances, the sacrifice and resurrection, within the same generation, at the end of the ages, the time of the harvest. The Lord God will give him the throne of David his Father (Luk 1:32 NABO) Blessed is the kingdom of our Father David that is to come! (Mar 11:10 NABO) Then comes the end, when he hands over the kingdom to his God and Father (1Co 15:24 NABO) I am the root and offspring of David, the bright Morning Star. (Rev 22:16 NABO) there are, to be sure, many Gods and many lords, yet for us there is one God, the Father, (1Co 8:5-6 NABO) "Gods though you be, offspring of the Most High all of you, Yet like any mortal you shall die; (Psa 82:6-7 NABO) The Father and I are one." (Joh 10:30 NABO) so that they may all be one, as you, Father, are in me and I in you, that they also may be in us, that the world may believe that you sent me (Joh 17:21 NABO) The Son himself will (also) be subjected to the “One” who subjected everything to him, so that God may be all in all. (1Co 15:28 NABO) No one has ever seen God. Yet, if we love one another, God remains in us, and his love is brought to perfection in us. (1Jo 4:12 NABO) God is Spirit (Joh 4:24 NABO) No one has ever seen God. The only Son, who is at (your) Father's side, has revealed him. (Joh 1:18 NABO) there are, to be sure, many "gods" and many "lords", yet for us there is one God, the Father, (1Co 8:5-6 NABO) David, the bright Morning Star." (Rev 22:16 NABO) You belong to your Father the devil (Joh 8:44 NABO) How have you fallen from the heavens, O Morning Star, son of the dawn! (Isa 14:12 NABO) On your belly shall you crawl, and dust shall you eat (thirst) all the days of your life. (Gen 3:14 NABO) "I am the bread of life; whoever comes to me will never hunger, and whoever believes in me will never thirst. (Joh 6:35 NABO) Jesus said, "I thirst." (Joh 19:28 NABO)

[@tmwfox81]

Nine minutes in. “It’s absurd to say Jesus came before David or Mary.” But in John 8 verse 58 58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. So that put Jesus before all of them?

[@konstantinallinforchrist9867]

God the Father spoke through Jesus. Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was born, I am.” - John 8:58 ☆ "....before Abraham was born, EGO EIMI." "EGO EIMI" are the words here in the greek. Question: Where else does the apostle John use the words EGO EIMI also? The woman said to Him, “I know that Messiah is coming (He who is called Christ); when that One comes, He will declare all things to us.” Jesus said to her, “I who speak to you AM HE.” [I...AM HE] - John 4:25-26 ☆ "I who speak to you EGO EIMI." The man born blind in John 9: Others were saying, “This is he,” still others were saying, “No, but he is like him.” He kept saying, “I AM the one.” - John 9:9 "...No, but he is like him". He kept saying:"EGO EIMI". ☆ EGO EIMI is not the divine name. The greek translation of the Old Testament, the septuagint translates the divine name as "ego eimi ho ōn " in Exodus 3:14. Hope this helps clarify things.

[@aaddebruijn3355]

The apostle John knew about the virginal birth? Maybe he did, but did he agree with the literal, pagan way of reading this tradition in Luke and Matthew? 1. John says Jesus (or the believers) was (were) not born from the will of a male. John speaks not of seed. 2. John says, by mouth of Natanael, Jesus was the son of Joseph, 1:45. 3. Mary's name is not mentioned once in the whole gospel of John. 4. Jesus confirms the natural way of birth, 3:6. Flesh begets flesh, Spirit begets spirit. His gospel as a whole is imo anti Mary-devotion, Mary cult, including the virginal birth. Is this a problem for His divinity? I think not at all, because being born of the flesh cannot interfere with being born of the Spirit. These are different realms.. Jesus as the word incarnate, is the work of the Spirit.

[@acts2583]

Sorry Aad - Can't go there with you on all of that. I thought my way through what you are saying years ago and came to exactly the opposite conclusion that you have come to with regard to the virgin birth in Matthew and Luke's accounts. I think you have bought into an anti-scriptural perspective in all of that. And, you have bought into the false narrative that Matthew and Luke's accounts are somehow Mariolatry.

[@chigbondubuisi5807]

I and MY FATHER ARE ONE. Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him. Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me? The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; BUT FOR BLASPHEMY; AND BECAUSE THAT THOU, BEING A MAN, MAKEST THYSELF GOD. Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken; say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God? John 10:30‭-‬36 KJV Why was Jesus accused? Because that thou being a man makes yourself God. Jesus is indeed God and Jesus and the Father are ONE. For there are three that bear record in heaven, THE FATHER, THE WORD, and THE HOLY GHOST: and THESE THREE ARE ONE. 1 John 5:7 KJV BUT SHUN PROFANE AND VAIN BABBLINGS: FOR THEY WILL INCREASE UNTO MORE UNGODLINESS. 2 Timothy 2:16 KJV BUT EVIL MEN AND SEDUCERS SHALL WAX WORSE AND WORSE, DECEIVING, AND BEING DECEIVED. But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them; and that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: that the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works. 2 Timothy 3:13‭-‬17 KJV I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom; PREACH THE WORD; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; and they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. 2 Timothy 4:1‭-‬4 KJV

[@stephenwlodarczyk175]

this video is in error... It is true that Jesus is not God. But read Job and we see that the Sons of God were in council. That suggests that there were angels who were in a meeting with God. Read the Noah account of the Flood we see that the Sons of God Found the Daughters of man beautiful, and Came down, we refer this to the fallen Angels, Read the Psalm account that Jesus puts in the Pharisees face saying, "My lord said to MY Lord" how can he be His lord if David came first? THE answer is that he was already there. John 8:58. Before Abraham was, I am [he], NOT God But the Messiah, taken from John 4:25 The woman said to him, “I know that Messiah is coming (he who is called Christ). When he comes, he will tell us all things.” 26 Jesus said to her, “I who speak to you am he.” Hebrews 1:5 5 For to which of the angels did God ever say, “You are my Son, today I have begotten you”? Matthew 3: 17 and behold, a voice from heaven said, “This is my beloved Son,[d] with whom I am well pleased.” existence 6 who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped,[b] 7 but emptied himself, by taking the form of a servant,[c] being born in the likeness of men. 8 And being found in human form Study the word Form. You will see that is suggests that it is likened to a shape. he was in the Shape or image or form of an angel. Gave up that right and turning into the Shape, image or form of man for the sake of accomplishing a task to atone the sins of man as the lamb offering to God.

[@stephenwlodarczyk175]

@Mark Park so sad that your deception is not allowed to be labeled as fake news. It is this deceptive work that you do that keeps the children of God from finding truth. All the while KZbin has silenced voices against the narrative of COVID. To bad they won’t silence the devil from the deceptive works you help fulfill. 😉

[@jesusloves316]

I do believe the son was spoken into existence at beginning even in personification by What he said in the knowledge by speaking light .That Light was Jesus.

[@Thedisciplemike]

But that light was also us, true believers. Do you believe we were there in the beginning? Or perhaps could it be we were simply in God's mind?

[@farainyika2365]

Please do not read your own ideas into the text.

[@achildofthelight4725]

One Father, One son, echad Holy Spirit... GOD is spirit, the son is the spirit of him, the logos, (holy spirit) the only begotten of the Father.... I (the father), will put my spirit, (son of God, holy spirit), in him and you must listen to him (for I the Father am speaking to you via the Holy Spirit) Jesus is the trumpet that the only begotten of the Father can dwell in to breath out of to sound the trumpet. 🤗

[@gerisnoke4374]

You contradict yourselves when you show, as in previous videos, that Jesus was a true, literal, genuine human being, JUST LIKE US, but now you claim he had a virgin birth, which is true of NONE OF US and decidedly makes him NOT a human being. IF he was truly human like us, one of us, then he had a normal birth, just as every one of us has had. Also, your claim of Jesus having a virgin birth completely destroys the genealogies given in Matthew and Luke which are there to show Jesus was a literal descendent of David and therefore qualified to be the prophesied Messiah. A virgin birth makes the genealogies superfluous and irrelevant AND A virgin birth disqualifies him from being Messiah - he is no longer a physical descendent of David. The "Virgin Birth" idea is a pagan lie we've inherited, just like the "Trinity". I pray someone in your fellowship would have the courage to investigate this with the same diligence you investigated the Trinity and found it to be false. But I still appreciate your many helpful videos which contain much truth. One just has to be very critical and careful to separate the wheat from the chaff.

[@gerisnoke4374]

ADDENDUM - YOUR Jesus, that you clarify cannot have a "dual nature" (min 20:41), is then GIVEN a dual nature by YOUR proclamation that he had a "virgin birth", with half his genes coming from the immortal Father. You cannot claim consistency with your position.

[@zamiel3]

What did Jesus do, that was "messianic"? What prophecies did he fulfill?

[@Thedisciplemike]

There are about 20 books/ letters written during the time by about 8 different authors over the span of 50 years or so that explain how. It is called the "New Testament" testifying that Jesus is the messiah. I would check it out when you have the time

[@zamiel3]

@@Thedisciplemike You don't know either. Got it.

[@Thedisciplemike]

@@zamiel3 Lol, ok just disregard what I just said. But here; if you are feeling lazy today, I'll kindly start listing them off for you, in no particular order, just as they come to mind. Here we go; Micah 5:2 "And you, O Bethlehem Ephrathah, the one too little to get to be among the thousands of Judah, from you there will come out to me the one who is to become ruler in Israel" FULFILLED: Matthew 2:1 "After Jesus had been born in Bethlehem of Judea in the days of Herod the king, look! astrologers from the East came to Jerusalem, saying "Where is the one born king of the Jews? (the promised MESSIAH)...King Herod... then began to inquire the scribes and priests where the Christ (Messiah) was to be born. They said to him: 'In Bethlehem of Judah.'" Psalm 22:8 "They divide my garments among themselves, and they cast lots for my clothing." FULFILLED: John 19:23, 24 "Now when the soldiers had nailed Jesus to the stake (or cross), they took his outer garments and divided them into four parts . . . But the inner garment was without a seam, being woven from top to bottom. So they said to one another: ‘Let us not tear it, but let us cast lots over it to decide whose it will be.’ 1 Chronicles 17:11 "And it must occur that when your days (David) have come to the full for you to be with your forefathers, I shall certainly raise up your seed after you that will come to be one of your sons, and I shall indeed firmly establish his kingship." FULFILLED Matthew 9:27 As Jesus was passing along from there, two blind men followed him, crying out and saying: "Have mercy on us, Son of David." All of Isaiah chapter 53, fulfilled in Phillipians 2:7, Matthew 26: 67,68, Matthew 8:14-17, 1 Peter 2:24, Romans 4:25, Isaiah 53:7 FULFILLED Matthew 26:63 Psalm 110:1 "Jehovah (Yahweh, YHWH) declared to my Lord: “Sit at my right hand, Until I place your enemies as a stool for your feet.” FULFILLED (being fullfilled even today) Matthew 22:43,44, Mark 12:36 Acts 7:56 Hebrews 1:3, Romans 8:34, Ephesians 1:20, Hebrews 8:1, I am just at the tip of the iceberg, but I can keep going if you like...

[@zamiel3]

@@Thedisciplemike Quite a stretch there. Jesus was never acknowledged by the people, as King. He didn't restore the lost tribes. He didn't wage war to free the nation. He didn't lead the sacrifice at the temple. But hey...look at those vague non-specific verses. smh

[@Thedisciplemike]

@@zamiel3 When Jesus died and was resurrected, his followers posed a similar question to him: Acts 1:6, "they went asking him: "Lord, are you restoring the kingdom to Israel at this time?" He said to them: "It does not belong to you to get knowledge of the times or seasons which the Father has placed in his own jurisdiction; but you will receive power when the holy spirit arrives upon you (in 33 C.E.), and you will be witnesses of me in both Jerusalem and in all Judea and to the most distant part of the earth." You need to do some more reading; John 18: 37 "Therefore Pilate said to him: "Well, then, are you a king?" Jesus answered: "You yourself are saying that I am a king." John 6:14 "Hence when the men saw the signs he performed, they began to say: "This is for a certainty the prophet that was to come into the world." Therefore Jesus, knowing they were about to come and seize him to make him king, withdrew again into the mountain all alone." Jesus Kingdom was not of this world, but of the Kingdom of the Heavens. His sacrifice at the temple was when he died as a sacrifice, and his body was the temple. John 2:19 "In answer Jesus said to them: "Break down this temple, and in three days I will raise it up." Therefore the Jews said: "This temple was built in forty-six years, and will you raise it up in three days?" But he was talking about the temple of his body." You must realize that either Jesus is the foretold messiah, or you will die in your sins, for no other redeemer will come for you on the last day when Jesus arrives once again. John 8: 24, John 17:3, Matthew 24:3 Lastly, you have some wrong expectations of what the messiah is. Which is and was common. Jews were anxiously waiting for the messiah in Jesus' day, for they were being ruled by Rome. Many expected him to meet their preconceived notions of freeing them from Rome. But the Hebrew scriptures showed the messiah as coming in two different roles. One was "humble, and riding upon the donkey," whereas the other was "with the clouds of the heavens" to annihilate opposers and have all rulership serve him. Zec 9:9 and Daniel 7:13. What you, and many Jews/ muslims seam to fail to appreciate is the fact that these prophecies related to two distinct appearances of the messiah, one during jesus day, and one in the future.

[@jamess3217]

John 17:5 And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began. You don't have to believe in the trinity but the fact is Jesus as a person, has been there since the beginning, as his firstborn, the one through whom everyone else was created, he is God and also distinct from God as his bodily person, the person of God in bodily form, the one who interacts with God's creation and communicates God's Word into creation which is why he is called the Word. Jesus is divine, don't be fooled into thinking otherwise. God bless.

[@janicemorton7581]

that is not a fact

[@jamess3217]

@@janicemorton7581 It is and it will be revealed to all, one day.

[@janicemorton7581]

no@@jamess3217

[@CalebTheHumbled]

Amen! Every knee will bow, and every tongue will confess! These men can cleverly lay out their arguments and make it sound as though it is not heresy to deny the divinity of Christ Jesus, but merely a different perspective. I will not deny Him. When Jesus said "I and The Father are One" and "Before Abraham was, I AM." I believe that Jesus was claiming to be God in the flesh.

[@janicemorton7581]

@@CalebTheHumbled Of course you are free to believe whatever you want, however, Jesus was not claiming to be God in the flesh, that is a supposition easily de-bunked. Read Jesus's words and obey them, for they require your unbiased investigation.

[@ericbenson1610]

It is a pity how these men dwell in self-deceit, the Bible supports the Trinity. I was born into a Unitarian Christian family, but the truth of the Scriptures was overwhelming enough to see that the Trinity is indeed supported. You men should pray for the help of the Holy Spirit.

[@Thedisciplemike]

Did you even listen to them? The Bible DOES NOT support the Trinity

[@dlbooneok]

The very best a Trinitarian can do is pluck a few stand alone verses that can be twisted around to allude to to a three person being. No one can find a string of thought in scripture that explains the concept of the trinity. One God, one son. What is the Hoky Spirit’s name. If it’s a person it shoukf have a name.

[@youngknowledgeseeker]

Quite arrogant and assumptive to believe they didn’t pray their hearts out to God to get to this point in their understanding.

[@farainyika2365]

@@dlbooneok Trinity was NEVER taught by any of the Apostles who laid the foundation of the church. Trinity comes 300 years after Christ. No one in the OT scriptures ever taught Trinity

[@ThePelicular]

It is true you need God'Holy Spirit to come to an accurate knowledge of the truth but there are requirements to enter the Kingdom of Heaven and being an idolator and carrying on with lies could keep the gates to heaven closed to you, so clothe yourself in virtue and rid yourself of this strong delusion that blinds the eyes of many men and take no further delight in this abomination called the trinity for your own sake