I Kind of Like Sonic Forces

[@premydaremy]

I actually agree with like 90% of this review, there's just certain parts of the game that show huge potential, but not enough to make me love the entire game. If I do go back to play Forces (aside from mods) it'll be for most of the Modern levels, and maybe Imperial Tower, either way great review.

[@bickuribox12]

Thanks man, I appreciate the comment

[@JavaCake]

Same.

[@JaySurf27]

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[@pufflord_gamesonicsoloesyo2365]

@@JaySurf27 Uhm..? What..?

[@dr.eggman8378]

Oh no, it’s Premy

[@Chase1.9]

Finally! A Sonic Forces review that I can actually agree with! I personally enjoy the game for what it is, and the soundtrack slaps HARD

[@MooseeMcMoose]

I always feel like I'm having an in-depth conversation whenever I watch one of your review videos, keep it up!

[@AQG]

This was nice to watch As someone who thinks the game is pretty average and with all the negativity surrounding frontiers, it's nice to see someone genuinely talk about a sonic game they like on some level. I know this is a 4 year old video so you probably won't see this, but great job. I hope q lot of people see this and try the game

[@TheComemnter]

I played sonic forces. I don't know why every keeps bashing the game. It has some decents levels. Like mortar canyon, egg gate, chemical planet, etc. The classic Sonic stages suck though. Avatar stage is ok in my opinion.

[@mdstevens0612]

Forces is taking an undeserved beating right now, so I'm glad there are a few reviewers still willing to give the game a fair shake. I get the most enjoyment out of speedrunning Sonic levels, so seeing all the tricks you pull off made me pretty excited for when I eventually pick up Forces. Great review man, you earned my sub. Edit: 6 Years later, this game was just alright. Review is still spot on. Does a lot of things right, does a lot of things wrong, but it's just a lot of wasted potential. At least dressing up OCs is pretty fun and there's one or two decent stages in there. Use some mods that remove some automation and give you better control and Forces even sorta kinda becomes fun. Just a shame. Anyway Sega better port Dream Team.

[@bickuribox12]

Matthew Stevens Thank you for the support 😊

[@sketchsskotch1073]

Being called mediocre after waiting 4 years for another 3D Sonic game, or 6 years for another good 3D sonic game is somehow undeserved.

[@TRG_R17]

No The Hell It's Not Forces Deserve This Beating For Letting All Of Us Down When They Promise Much More

[@OBAKENOBA]

I played the game a couple years ago and thought of it kinda fondly so I revisited it and was met with empty characters and uninteresting levels I believe that those are the main vocal points of the criticism it was just so empty and uninteresting and only showed potential at the end of the game it really was kinda disappointing but my fond memories of playing it for the first time were amazing second I beat it I felt accomplished and proud and that would be the one thing that keeps me from hating the game it wasn't the game play or character arcs it was the memories of sitting down on the couch and chilling out in the morning playing sonic the hedgehog and that was an adventure in itself

[@MDXZreal]

This video has actually given me a lot more respect for a game I thought was completely awful and had no substance but this game is ok and now I know why I loved when I was younger

[@Satrim373]

The non realm games are where it's at. Great video man

[@0Yours_Truly0]

Sonic forces was my first 3D sonic game and I did find it fun sure the controls are stiff and all but I managed to make them work perfectly. Basically I love this game

[@dominicanemperor28]

To me, if you like a game, it's good for you.

[@CheeseBlaster]

cheers to that

[@3J-LilCatNDaHat_isback]

Thank you because fr I thought I was the only one who liked forces

[@ghost_evermore]

I feel like most of the hatred was directed towards the story and characters rather than the gameplay

[@Cade_The_Squirrel]

My biggest problem with Sonic Forces is probably the level length, if it was all the same levels but some levels were merged together to make bigger but fewer levels I think I and many other people would like this game alot more

[@seankkg]

I had fun playing through Forces and I'll never play it again. That's pretty much how it is.

[@bristephens555]

great review talking about a lot of the good and bad of the game! Honestly I really loved this game mostly because I loved creating my own character and customizing and changing them over time. I found it pretty addicting to do all the challenges and daylies and unlocking a bunch of new customization all the time for my character and saving different outfits for them. Definity most of the levels could be better but I do like how many of them are short and sweet and pretty fun to speedrun or get better times in

[@frostthewolf1443]

This was my first mainline Sonic game, and I replay sometimes to this day. It actually got me into Sonic oc design. Network Terminal will always be my favourite level.

[@royfireemb5551]

14:40 this joke is overused, but i can't hold myself "Sonic Forces me to be careful, and time my jumps properly"

[@tardissins7512]

The point you made about how it’s more enjoyable for speedrunners is what I’ve been saying basically since it launched. I LOVE it for that, but everyone I know hates it.

[@ferro_drip189]

The reason why classic sonic returned in forces using a dimensions hole was because if you have played Sonic Mania, When you get all chaos emeralds you get a true ending which shows tails and knuckles outside, pointing to where sonic is headed. and with that sonic spin dashes and leaves to another dimension, but temporary.

[@djroscurro9859]

I think he’s aware, from what I remember he made a mania review before forces came out. My question is, why include classic sonic in forces in the first place?

[@ferro_drip189]

@@djroscurro9859 idk, guess they just decided to mic things up because of a bootleg emerald that was randomly discovered by both eggmans called “The Phantom Ruby”

[@bluefoxgalaxy6057]

I did actually enjoy playing Sonic Forces. It was so unique in its own way, that it made the experience actually enjoyable for me.

[@-sgsdfhdhhdt]

I quite like this game. It's not as good as others but I go to it everyonce and a wile.

[@cofagrigusfan24]

i to like Forces, but then again every game with a character creator gets + points from me also the story, moments most people have a problem with, i don't and find reason behind them -Tails being a coward, he's a 8 year old kid, who saw his idol & big brother figure get destroyed, his mental state isn't in the right place -why is Zavok here?, he's 1 of the strongest mortals Sonic has ever faced (able to block Sonic's homing attack without even flinching (in Lost World)) -CS is from the past, not another dimension? both are correct, the CS in Generations was from pre-Adventure era (aka Sonic's past), the CS in Forces is from Mania (a game that is *not* in Sonic's past, Mania takes place after CS returned home from Generations, aka another timeline) -why isn't there a Chaos 0 fight? yeah i got nothing for that one... -why was Metal Sonic a illusion? (while not canon to the games...) IDW shows us that Metal was being rebuild into a loyal Neo Metal Sonic during the war

[@gamingicedragon336]

lets not forget what happened in SA2 (which is part of the modern era according to generations) Sonic was litterally executed and what did Tails do? He made sure Sonic''s death wasn't in vein, so he defeated Eggman to avenge Sonic.

[@ThePVZGamer-tw3qw]

I love sonic forces even if people don't it's underrated by a lot

[@xamp_exclammark]

I stay away from the term underrated.I do surely wish i had more people who appreciate this game as much as i do to discuss it in detail tho

[@AgentB7]

Thank you for being the voice of reason on Forces. It definitely deserves some credit, and frankly, it's just a fun game.

[@justdistic4269]

I like sonic forces too, if the game had more time in it’s development cycle, better levels, less automation and better controls, people probably wound not have slammed this game as much as they did. Also those speed run tactics look both cool and fun, I might try them out next time I play the game :)

[@gemeosnosgames]

If you like this game, that's okay. This opinion won't change my life.

[@gameman5804]

How did I not see this video!? Guess the toxic hatred kind of overshadowed it. You basically summed up how I felt about this game. Not one of the worst Sonic Games, but could’ve been so much better.

[@AquaNovaSab]

Finally a criticism that is rational is not filled with hatred because of the license! Thank you ! I still had a good time playing these games :). Even if it's not the best of all time.

[@flameblastv5151]

There’s a timeline out there where sonic was the most critically acclaimed franchise while Mario is the inconsistent franchise. I wish I lived in that universe

[@Shadex_Joestar]

I wish I lived in a timeline where both were the most critically acclaimed franchises I wish I lived in a timeline where Sonic was treated with the respect it deserves and the games weren't rushed

[@sazerae]

11:31 Wait, aren't those ships from Unleashed's opening, I thought they blew up...

[@kelagy]

I guess Eggman rebuilt it

[@Laekith]

This gave me a new appreciation for the game

[@Catohat52]

Same I also love forces mortor canyon is the best stage in the game

[@pizzachu2281]

Looking back at forces... I really need to put reshade on frontiers or something. Frontiers is pretty drab. Thematically appropriate but it bores me. Forces was at least pretty colorful.

[@Minecraftxpo]

would love to see you do a playthrough of adventure 2

[@ledestroyerofworlds9366]

The settings and music are outstanding and would have bin perfect for an adventure style

[@s.r.8260]

Idk why but jumping while boosting in this game feels satisfying as heck

[@that1_throwawayaccountdeez277]

bro made me rethink if this game was good or not, its not but bro your videos are amazing, keep up the good work

[@leoadian1229]

Needs more views

[@JavaCake]

Yep.

[@bartoszhallay6576]

What he said: The final boss:the Death Egg Robot. What he said according to the automatically generated subtitles: the final boss, the Deaf A Grow Bomb.

[@ikeatable2289]

I never played the game, but it’s nice to see someone liked it.

[@MseryXLII]

Why was this in my tecomded

[@Doofyee911]

I especially love the boss battles they were fun

[@masterofgamesbrian7058]

One reason why I think Classic Sonic was put in Forces was so that it had a connection to Mania, because the only other thing connecting Mania to Forces is the Phantom Ruby, which if you got the true ending in Mania, transported Classic Sonic somewhere, which would lead to Forces since Classic Sonic came out of a portal and saved Tails.

[@the-point-bearer6689]

Which he pointed it out in the video, and I'll be frank, the content for classic Sonic got the short end of the stick because it contains nothing but throwbacks that it chained its full potential. There are new stages here and there, but the problem is that it had no idea what island did they travel about and this is something SEGA actually pulled a stunt like that to get more revenue. People who plays Sonic game for one thing only, new adventure that has nothing to do with revisits.

[@anotherme9226]

forces could just be a amazing game if they give some longer fun stage,fun and interesting quick time event and the control and the game give much content and fun inside it forces could be just the best game i like the plot and story somehow but they could just give some little dark essence on the game so make the story fun

[@ericamaya2467]

I wonder how he feels about it right now though

[@ericamaya2467]

Still wondering...

[@ericamaya2467]

I am still inquiring.

[@chloeafton2414]

I like sonic forces, some of the controls feel a bit too slippery and the story was displayed mainly through talking heads rather than full cutscenes. And the story felt pretty underwhelming since no level gave off “omg Eggman has actually gained world domination” vibes and it just seems like a minor inconvenience. And the fact WE NEVER GOT A SHADOW OR CHAOS BOSS BATTLE but besides that the games pretty fun

[@geremipineault308]

Finnaly someone that doesn't hate this game, what a relief!

[@808JuJu]

PLEASE READ! Do the paper clip challenge on ROTMG, start off with nothing but let's say maybe a Dex or Att pot in your inventory, then trade/scam players and say in 24 hours or so you tally up everything you got out of that one potion! I did this and ended up walking away with a Soulless robe and like 50+ pots and way to many t11-t13 items

[@chrissyoons]

Completely underrated video. Truly an amazing video explained everything amazingly and I really agree with most points in this video. Thank you for this amazing video :)

[@TheJxR]

The boost originates from sonic rush

[@Tom-jw7ii]

@@OrbisAetherum The boost in Sonic Advance 2 is basically just the P-Meter from Mario 3.

[@danmeldrum312]

I love this game.

[@blakegoodman7785]

I love that scene where Classic Sonic saves Tails from Chaos. It shows just how much Tails can't function without Sonic, and just how much Tails needs Sonic.🥺

[@mazkeraid4039]

Broy, Tails can bomb an army of birds and capture these carters that can fly, what kind of excuse is that?

[@Crackedcripple]

Never saw something I’ve disagreed with more it completely throws his character development from sonic adventure 1 and 2 where he learns to be more independent and a hero in his own right out the window, and the classic games show tails can even be better than sonic at times.

[@kiyan5340]

I feel like if Sonic Boom was well received, the custom character would've just been Boom Sonic. And that would make more sense for the title and for the ending battle.

[@Farkonso]

This video makes me feel like Forces would've been better off with less 3D and more 2D. A new rush game with elements of 3D sonic sprinkles in sounds amazing

[@kennyholmes5196]

"If you were to ask someone to describe the stage layouts in this game, three words would probably come up." I can sum it up in one: Hallway.

[@xamp_exclammark]

So,Green Forest from SA2?

[@masonplayz9030]

arsenal pyramid + lightning wisp w/ kill badnik = 1 ring + super sonic = CHAOS

[@skyruins]

The game play itself isn't bad, i just wish that there were more animations (like whenever sonic jumps and rides a rail) to make it look smooth, but besides that,the characters and story where just plain bad

[@Crackedcripple]

Episode Shadow is easily my favorite part of the game it’s a shame it’s so short

[@klil7853]

When I first played death egg for classic sonic, I got up to at least an hour on the stage

[@BlazingAuras]

Wow this is the best review of forces I've seen and you didn't even talk about the story. I've only seen this 4 years later and I needed to see something like this because forces has gotten too much hate with the time gap between it and frontiers. You've earned a sub

[@gamanzhiydanil]

He doesn't talk about story because it's just too bad and everybody has mocked it more times than I can count.

[@editoranimatoralexcod]

You're right, the final boss is underrated.

[@aci6737]

I really wish classic sonic had the OP spindash from generations. It felt so weird not having it (I had just played generations before this)

[@Ad3nIsHere]

Yeah, every is hating on sonics and the cc stiffness/controls but same as you, im used to it, this game his highly underrated by the sonic community and I wish it got some more clout, like everything good is: the stages, graphics soundtrack and the boss was ok aswell

[@mazkeraid4039]

People are more so against another Sonic's inclusion than anything really.

[@TehJellyLord]

Forces I think is probably better than I personally think it is, but I just cannot get over that massive disappointment I had when I first got my hands on it. Had like 4 years of development and it still ended up being on of my personal least favorites in the series. Especially compared to Generations which this game is trying desperately to be and failing. Other than that, I think you described exactly what I want for a future 3D Sonic title. 30+ stages of nothing but Gens/Unleashed styled boost gameplay or 30+ stages of nothing but SA1/SA2 styled speed stage gameplay. I think a modernized take on the Adventure gameplay could be incredible, especially if they nail the controls. Then it could be very interesting seeing that gameplay with both 2D and 3D sections like all the Modern Sonic titles have been doing since Unleashed.

[@Jay-mx5ky]

Lost World really tried to do this but it was just bad execution because the level design was so all over the place. That and it released on a pretty much dead platform.

[@Sandata64RD]

My view? Tell's, didn't show. Untapped. Similar glitches. But we were so close to those old comics where things felt very serous.

[@FirestoneAnimation]

Like it's hard for me to hate it with a grudge. Something makes me *want* to like it but I can't due to these problems. If Sega gave the team more than just a year or two it could've worked out amazingly. If I could, these are the things I would fix; -Give the side characters more depth than they did here. (Tails being brave like the Adventure games, Knuckles back to badass etc.) -Rewrite the story, like other content creators have -Tweak the controls to feel a bit tighter on each character -Redesign the levels (Only some as I do actually like some linear stages) -Give Infinite a much more compelling and sympathetic backstory. -Oh and of course a Shadow and Chaos boss fight.

[@arbelcohen8280]

I gotta disagree about the death egg robot’s design For me the best part about eggman’s inventions is how much personality he can fit in em

[@soulver5109]

5 years later

[@zap648]

Should I feel bad that I just realized that the Wispon is just merging the words Wisp and Weapon?

[@veegm]

The description says "Let's about it." And I can only assume you meant "Let's _talk_ about it." ...so fix it....

[@Super_shadow42]

I like the game but now for some reason half of map doesn’t even load

[@JuliRocket]

Stage 25 was a PAIN! it was so annoying and it was almost impossible. (probably because I’ve never played any other sonic game)

[@therealmrarchive]

It looks visually appealing even on switch

[@quartz4081]

I think that Classic Sonic did have a reason to be in Forces, because the Mania story wouldn't have made sense with the Phantom Ruby if he wasn't included in Forces

[@TRG_R17]

Still Doesn't Explain Why He Only Have 5 Levels And 1 Boss Fight

[@the-point-bearer6689]

The Phantom Ruby should've been only made for Forces and I feel that Mania is legit a throwback trap and multitude of people didn't realize it.

[@johncarrillo518]

I just liked playing as shadow

[@Kinsley_XD]

This game is barely a game at all, it is fundamentally flawed down to a meta level as it was the single most rushed game in sega history, and 90 percent of the dev team was poached to work on yakuza, the engine was literally ported from sonic lost world which makes absolutely zero sense because it meant they had to rebuild the boost mechanics and classic sonics style from the ground up, resulting in it being worse because even if they did fully recreate it for the engine, which I have my doubts about, the mechanics do not work well within the engine at all and even create the need for omitting really obvious things like manual drifting, the levels were also obviously rushed and are poorly designed railroads requiring minimal input from the player, as well as some levels looking shockingly bad like the ones that are constructed out of one singular copy and pasted box object like a shitty gmod dupe, the story is also executed horribly and is taken way too light heartedly for what's actually going on, as well as the new "character" being edgy as anything, infinite sticks out like a sore thumb against how much sonic doesn't even seem to give a shit that he's been tortured for years and his planet is on the brink of being taken over completely, nothing about this game comes even remotely close to good, the soundtrack is even pretty average compared to the rest of the series, it is hands down the worst sonic game of all time.

[@doctorfunk7959]

You like, WHAT!?! Heresy.

[@justinmanzo3945]

hi talwar i remember there was this one video and it was a look into parasite chambers before it was released and a few other videos and i resently looked at the goblin lair and i remember i say some one talk about that and the parasite chambers can you please link me the video?

[@leonlabtv9564]

I love sonic forces also I don't understand why people hate it

[@karthekaiju]

16:54 is the time when on sonic forces mobile speed battle you go on party match

[@Kim-pi7ni]

Final judgement:Am I a joke to you

[@bickuribox12]

I still laugh that I completely forgot to include that level

[@Kim-pi7ni]

@@bickuribox12 oh and fun fact:red gate bridge is considered an actual level

[@thatitalianlameguy2235]

@@bickuribox12 what about the best level, aqua road You don't even have to hold forward, the slides do it by themselves. I tried to replay the game twice recently while touching the stick at little as possible. The drill wisp and most wisps just auto clear a section, boost does the same, classic doesn't even have enough paths to do that

[@davion4777]

I mean, there’s nothing wrong in liking bad games. I like some bad games too. But I think Forces does basically nothing right except the graphics. They couldn’t even get the controls in the 2D sections right. It was just not fun to play.

[@mechajay3358]

My thoughts exactly.

[@Yoshistar238]

This game could have been so great ya know... *well atleast we still have mania!*

[@DoodleEh]

I spent 40 minutes on the final boss when I was 10.

[@WaterKirby1994]

30 Modern Sonic Stages would have killed the game for me. Sonic himself is severely overused in the series & you can see this most blatantly with the 2 Sonics Playable for no real reason as a selling point in multiple games. In terms of gameplay the Custom Hero is best in the game having a way of feeling like several playable characters thanks to the level of customization. You have the 7 Species with slightly different abilities, although there are also the Wispons that really change up the gameplay. Playing Imperial Tower with Drill is drastically different from playing it with Hover for example & there are several other stages like this as well. Sonic Forces had potential, although was screwed over by the 2010s Era & all of the mismanagement for the series during it. I prefer playing as Shadow instead of Sonic when possible in this game & want the return to Adventure & getting to play as the excellent cast of characters again that the series was known for during the 2000s. With the exception of Mania & Non Platforming Games we haven't played as Tails or Knuckles since Sonic 06. Cream hasn't even appeared in the series other than comics, crossovers, & mobile phone games for the past 10 years. I remember when rings used to be collected as currency such as to be spent on Chao, I found it odd that Sonic Forces didn't let you shop for clothes with earned rings instead having the convoluted mission reward structure.

[@greninjasn]

Ah yes Sonic The Hedgehog is overused in a franchised called Sonic The Hedgehog

[@WaterKirby1994]

@@greninjasn The Sonic Series was a certain way then the characters all got screwed over. You don't see or play as Zelda that much in The Legend of Zelda. Title Characters don't have to hog the spotlight like Sonic has been for a long time now. There's an excellent cast of characters that Sonic Team won't use anymore other than cheerleading.

[@qwerty5684]

@Welp Tails played pretty well in SA1

[@WaterKirby1994]

@Welp Qwerty is correct most of the characters play as well as Sonic in Adventure 1. The Gameplay in Adventure 2 was also consistently good. I liked the Treasure Hunting in SA2B better than the Boost Gameplay in Generations.

[@Xinny_Real]

I do too, I loved it when I played!

[@nothedgehog443]

Like RadicalSoda said "ignore the fans"

[@CobAnimates]

Don’t worry, I like it a lot too

[@YHUAN01]

idk Classic Sonic in Forces controls mostly like Sonic from Sonic 1. That's completely fine. His acceleration is even buffed similar to the rate it is in the master system games. Spinning does work in the game but in some places it can just get wonky like on quarter pipes. Not perfect but it's hell of an improvement over Generations and Sonic 4.

[@mazkeraid4039]

Doesn't excuse the fact that he was shoved in at the last minute to gain more audience which is unnecessary in my eyes. Take him out, and you would lose nothing.

[@YHUAN01]

@@mazkeraid4039 No he wasn't. Sonic Mania and Forces were developed around the same time for that reason. Mania is literally a companion game to Forces for that reason. He wasn't a last minute inclusion. Story beats and plot points were changed and shuffled around a good deal late into development of the game is all. If Mania Sonic in Forces was last minute then so was the Phantom Ruby and Infinite. Given how fleshed out the reality warping and augmentation abilities of the phantom ruby is, Infinite's design and power set, them even having a backstory (despite not having enough time to fully implement it in game) for Infinite disproves your statement. Infinite, Sonic Mania and Mania Sonic being warped to Modern Sonic's dimension are all linked. Linked by the Phantom Ruby itself.

[@mazkeraid4039]

@@YHUAN01 You think I don’t know that? Then why does the likes of Classic Sonic have neutered physics when they shouldn’t have a problem with it here? Do not justify its poor execution for Sonic’s exclusion and people I’ve heard were not happy that he plays like this when we have the 2D Sonic Generations with the enhancements of physics.

[@YHUAN01]

@@mazkeraid4039 Classic's physics in Forces are almost the exact same as in Sonic 1 but with better air control. The fuck are you talking about? It's better than Generations and in Sonic 4.

[@mazkeraid4039]

@@YHUAN01 You’re lying, try to let go of the control and see how he functions with the slope he could interact with. I ask you, what is the point of another Sonic in Forces and the Phantom Ruby if it done nothing else with it?

[@lockthatgoddamndoor]

what i like about this guy is he sounds like a teacher on parents evening when hes talking about the drawbacks and conclusion, and sounds like a proud parent when hes talking about the good points of a game

[@sonicelite9553]

This is why I like sonic forces

[@Faceless_time_traveler]

Despite the reception of Sonic Forces ,I really hope Sega takes another stab at 3d Sonic . I was introduced to Sonic with the genesis games , but I still think the 3d gameplay is the best when it's done right

[@mazkeraid4039]

And even when it is done right, there's bound to be tricky areas as what else you can do more with these games. You can't call out when the fans have great ideas into the game and automatically assume that it'll be great, that's no cakewalk and execution is a different story and it's cheating. If only we get Sonic Team to work on the next title that have been in the range of 100+ not shorter.

[@DragonOfTheNorth7799]

Yeah

[@aydienfilms]

Should I buy it on the switch?

[@yourordinarystranger366]

I agree with some of the points but this game is either overrated or underrated. I feel that modern sonic is the best part of the game and the story is one of the worst, it is cringe and had great potential but sega clearly didn't take advantage of it and just used it as and excuse to make the custom character relevant and to bring classic sonic back. Classic sonic had no point in the story or the game he was just there. Not only that but this game could of made knuckles and tails actually useful again but they decided against it

[@raccoonman5341]

It’s a pretty fun game just bad writing

[@GuyEinhoren]

14:08 Luminous forest actually has some interesting shortcuts to look out for in the run-forward-now sections

[@thatitalianlameguy2235]

No there fucking aren't, you just jump into an orange ring or you slightly change direction to the OTHER BOOSTPAD in the avatar level

[@JMReyes-hd4pk]

My top 3 sonic games til this date are SAB2, Colors and Generations

[@DILLPICKLEZZ23]

sonic nerd alert: classic sonic is there because of the secret ending of sonic mania and if you want to know why the wisp capsules are there just read the IDW comics

[@RaiginAnimator]

This came out years ago and we know that But Classic didn’t need to be in Forces

[@samcandles]

Sonic mania's story was adjusted to fit forces

[@e2011ugdia]

My forces oc is also a blue bablylonian Just Like the Avatar in the vodeo

[@RenegadeGamer-sj3du]

the drill is not as powerful as M speed and D speed