Big Bertha

[@sorehammer]

I think your Gamma distance is a bit off 14000km is almost 8600 miles the actual range is 14000m you're getting all your ranges wrong stating km instead of meters.

[@AdamsYoutubeAccount]

I've noticed more mistakes like these in recent videos, it's very odd.

[@JohnJohansen2]

Luckily we have someone like you to point out the problem.

[@JohnJohansen2]

@@edwardfletcher7790 No it's not!

[@jblob5764]

@@edwardfletcher7790 bro you're trippin. You can hear the dude inhale at the end of sentences if your speakers dont suck and you pay attention

[@jimf1964]

@@AdamsKZbinAccount too many videos. No time to verify and double check

[@donb7113]

My wife’s grandfather was on a Big Bertha crew. He was from Konigsberg E. Prussia and fought in France and I believe Belgium. He told my wife that there came a point when the railroads were completely useless in attempting to bring ammunition to the front. In 1918 he and his crew were relegated to support personnel and lived in trenches at the rear. He was for all intense and purposes deaf, and Heidi, my wife, remembers having to practically yell at him for her to be heard. My father-in-law took Opa in for hearing aids but once out the shop door he was overwhelmed by the sounds and ditched the hearing aids forever.

[@raymondwelsh6028]

A truly remarkable gun that can fire a shell from Paris France to Perth Australia.🇦🇺

[@BB1951]

Amazing!! 😅

[@noahway13]

The gun needed a 1000 FACS.

[@michaelbruns449]

Icbm

[@Keinapappa]

LOL...I just measured from Berlin to Perth.

[@chrisframpton7681]

I heard it had a range of 14,000 light years.

[@thebuckstopshere79]

:D

[@coltenrobinson3248]

Damn. I could use that to get 2/3rds the way to Colonia!

[@grnmtns1]

I really don't think your maximum range number of 14,000 KM (@ 4:15 in the video is correct because if it was the Prussians firing from Berlin Germany could have been shelling Denver Colorado in the U.S. with range to spare.

[@BlackWater_49]

Even Hawaii is only about 12 000 km away from Berlin. Makes you wonder if someone actually proofread the script, or read the script as all for that matter since the moment he said that I thought "That can't possibly be true by any stretch of the imagination." without being any kind of expert in that field nor even having a keen interest. But I also don't see how this could be a simple conversation error either.

[@letoubib21]

_Well, Jerry knew that the U.S. would jon the Entente one day _*_. . ._*

[@mutualbeard]

Most impressive range for these things. It makes me wonder why intercontinental ballistic missiles were ever needed. The German Empire could have had the first moon shot.

[@nikotinko]

Makes me wonder why Germans bothered with Paris gun if these Big Berthas could lob shells from Berlin directly to Paris. Or London, New York and Los Angeles. Truly a beast of a gun.

[@gordonlawrence1448]

You cant go suborbital with a gun. In simple terms air is thick enough at low altitude to cause enough drag to stop the range from much exceeding 100km. The Big Bertha guns didn't have a range of much more than 9.5KM. The Paris gun had a range of 130km but at great cost IE you had a range of shells with increasing diameter as every single shell fired saw the bore severely worn and stretched. If you fired the shells in the wrong order bye bye gun crew. Not only that but I think the barrels had to be replaced something nuts like every 65 rounds. The range was 14000 meters not kilometers for Big Bertha at extreme range.

[@notbobrosss3670]

@@gordonlawrence1448 he’s being facetious.

[@HAL_9001]

@@gordonlawrence1448 The delta-V at an apogee of 14,000 kM would be minimal tho. And there were rudimentary rockets and timers in the day. Biggest problem would be stabilization.

[@kotori87gaming89]

What do you mean, "could have"? The moon wasn't all crater-y like that until the Great War, when German artillery units used it as an accuracy calibration test for their long-range guns. If you ever see the dark side of the moon, it's perfectly smooth.

[@dirkbergstrom9751]

You do know that the term "eighteenth century" refers to the 1700's right? Similarly, "nineteenth century" refers to the 1800's. We are currently in the twenty-first century... well I am anyway.

[@KrGsMrNKusinagi0]

because what would you call the 0s :)

[@erikweijling7361]

Ha ha ha ha ha, some people......

[@razorsharpview9090]

18th century is 1701 to 1800 and 19th century refers to 1801 to 1900. 21st century refers to year 2001 to year 2100. Dude please always start with 1.

[@johnhughes8016]

Shhhhhh, don’t tell him about that... it’s secret .... good to see what our school system is producing....

[@narmale]

hes messing up so much now...

[@bryanlawson683]

Hearing what this dude will screw up has become a game in my house. From his mispronunciation of “chassis,” to his seeming lack of understanding that “casualties” include dead AND wounded (anyone who can’t contribute to the fight is a casualty), we’re always left in stitches. The range on these guns. 🤣

[@rs.7610]

The narrator is the commedian dan cummins

[@mattelder1971]

He also screwed up early on and said that railway guns started being developed in the mid 18th century. Pretty sure he meant the mid 19th century (the mid 1800s).

[@ncrawford1488]

This guy has lost all respect for us, the viewers.

[@ObviousSchism]

I watch these videos just for some light hearted fun. If I want facts, I go elsewhere.

[@kenoliver8913]

And he kept calling them "Prussian" when they were designed and made in both the Ruhr (Krupp) - at the other end of Germany from Prussia - or in Bohemia - then part of Austria (Skoda). The "Prussian Empire" never existed.

[@Stunningandbrave]

Interplanetary ballistic mortar. Wow. Those "Prussians" sure had some advanced technology.

[@ncrawford1488]

This guy has lost all respect for us, the viewers.

[@AKAHEIZER]

German Engineering at its best! 🤞 Greetings from the dark side of the moon!

[@brucelee3388]

The name of the piece in German was 'Dicke Bertha', so named after Mrs Bertha Krupp. 'Dicke' means 'Thick' not 'Big', so it should have been more like 'Stout Bertha' or less flatteringly, 'Fat Bertha'.

[@ThomasMulhall]

Never met a woman named Bertha who was less than 200lbs! Same for Brunhilde@ 300lbs!

[@lairdsteele2817]

A range of 9300 metres or 30,500 feet

[@Manny7RM]

Not km, Even though the ‘Big Berthas’ had a maximum range of 13,400 yards (ca. 12 km), their finest precision was received at approximately 9,490 yards (ca. 9 km).

[@NLynchOEcake]

Heard that and I was like... wow this random cannon can fire from Germany to Australia...

[@Shadow-Banned-Conservative]

Thanks for clarifying...Was gonna say, how did they loose with range and caliber like that?!?!? LOL.

[@MaverickBlue42]

Most intercontinental balistic missiles can't even fire 14,000km today....

[@Verdunveteran]

Well the actual "Dicke Berthas", aka the 42cm kurze Marinekanone 14 L/12 in Räderlafette aka 42 cm M-Gerät had a maximum range of up to 9 300 meters depending on the type of shell and propellant load used. It was the 42 cm Gamma-Gerät, aka the 42 cm kurze Marinekanone L/12 that had longer range. It's maximum range was up to 14 000 meters depending on which type of shell and propellant load was used. These were two completely different artillery pieces who's only commonality is it's ammunition. And it was only the M-Gerät (short for Minenwerfer-Gerät) that was called "Dicke Bertha" ("Big Bertha") by the Germans. Never the Gamma-Gerät. The soldiers of the Entente powers on the other hand nicknamed virtually every German heavy artillery piece "Big Bertha" because they had no actual clue which artillery piece was the actual "Dicke Bertha". And this has led to many misrepresentations from the two M-Gerät prototypes debute in Belgium in 1914 up until to day, even in serious historical non-German litterature and documentaries. The Gamma-Gerät is the most frequently misrepresented piece of German artillery errounusly called "Big Bertha". In older litterture and documentaries you often also see the 21 cm Kaiser Wilhelm Geschütz, aka the "Paris Gun", refered to as the "Big Bertha". The "Paris Gun's" (there were three of them) by the way had an maximum range of more than 120 km. It's shells were also the first man made objects to be launched into the stratosphere, as it's shells peaked a hight of 40 km on it's trajectory towards Paris. so, it was the Germans who were the first to launch something into space, long before NASA was ever founded. It had a muzzle velocity of 1 578 meters/second. When the shells reached a hight of 40 km the velocity had been reduzed to 675 m/s after a flight time of 90 seconds. Roughly 3 minutes after the shells had left the muzzle of the guns they landed in Paris with a velocity of 922 m/s. So the M-Gerät/"Dicke Bertha" was tiny in comparison on every level with the exception of it's calibre. But on the other hand, the M-Gerät was a dedicated siege mortar, while the "Paris Gun" was a long range canon.

[@theroyalaustralian]

@@MaverickBlue42 that's both incorrect and correct at the same time, because while usual ICBM's have a typical range of 6000km, they can and MAY get put on multi stage rockets. They can effectively go into space, and come right back down.

[@WildBillCox13]

Named after Bertha Krupp, the matriarch of the Krupp family who built the Gamma morser. She was not fond of the nickname.

[@ouroboris]

... a firing range of 14,000 kilometers? That's some gun 🤣

[@timheersma4708]

"What were you aiming at ?...How the He11 should I know ?" 😆

[@robertpierce1981]

You know we love your channel but when you put in silly mistakes like a “maximum firing range of 14,000 kilometers” it takes away some credibility.

[@mattcy6591]

This channel always has so many errors. Is there a different channel with the same content but with less errors and redundancy? Asking for a friend.

[@andrerichardson]

Aliens be like 🫢

[@5777Whatup]

And you are just nowww noticing this stuff? It’s been years 😂😂

[@robertpierce1981]

@@5777Whatup It seems as if there is one in every episode

[@mattcy6591]

@@robertpierce1981 I stopped watching forever ago due to the errors. Came back to see they are still so prevalent.

[@jhoncho4x4]

8.7 miles, pretty good for a mobile land gun. The USS Texas has a 13 mile range, for comparison.

[@thygrrr]

Great video, just got meters and kilometers mixed up. At 9000km, the Big Bertha could have shelled DC with that :) or Tokyo. Without ever leaving the Krupp factory lot at Essen. The previous one with 14000km could fire to San Francisco or Hawaii. Both ways around the world. Only Canberra and Sydney would have been safe hehe.

[@KanePaiKii]

The loud music is annoying.

[@frankjrmuchnok2647]

Hi Dark, Love all your channels. It would help my understanding though if you added a map of the area being covered by the video. The countries and borders of Europe have changed so may times that I sometimes have difficuties keeping up with different eras. i.e. WW1 Prussia. Thanks

[@cleverusername9369]

Just Google it.

[@TarDeisa]

WW1 prussia is the german empire. Att lead by prussia.

[@ursus9104]

I use Big Berthas every week at the golf course and I must admit they are tremendous!😊

[@alexkitner5356]

Glad they didn't use that 14,000km range to shell New York...lol Methinks someone got the unit of measurement wrong...

[@edwardfletcher7790]

More proof the voice is digital ☹️

[@John_Redcorn_]

@@edwardfletcher7790 dude shut up. Its not digital. He just gets stuff wrong.

[@coltenrobinson3248]

@@edwardfletcher7790 dude.....

[@kerriwilson7732]

Dang metric! All that decimal & such.

[@cleverusername9369]

Love this guy's channels but he desperately needs a fact checker and an editor. Soooo many easily avoidable mistakes and inaccuracies.

[@ErikBramsen]

A range of 9,500 kilometres is pretty impressive for WWI kit.

[@ilkoderez601]

I'm surprised Dark Tech hasn't covered space guns and Gerald Bull's assassination, one of the most intriguing, dark stories from the world of "dark tech". Great video as always.

[@robertpierce1981]

Range of 9,500km 🤔

[@andrerichardson]

Aliens be like 🫢

[@reverendbStaard]

Hello, Canada!

[@thebuckstopshere79]

yeh nah lol

[@leiaorgana5098]

Amerika mortar xDDD

[@dirkbergstrom9751]

9,500 kilometers is about 1/4 the way around our planet... at the equator... so, ah, nope. You must have meant metres, which would be 5 to 6 miles.

[@Darkmesna1]

I heard about the gun, but I didn't hear about how it leveled forts!

[@eastindiaV]

They've made a replica of this since then, don't know if it fires. In a motorized carriage, with an auto loading mechanism, using black or smokeless powder... this would make a good emplacement option for a gunship like the AC130. A 2 man crew, using modern hydraulics to load the powder and shell, should be able to operate this. And with new engines, avionics, and aerodynamics, it could be a viable option. It would be used in tandem with autocannons. If set up with 45degrees of travel in all directions, it could probably be used as artillery from a plane, or as a direct fire Cannon, like the 105 in the ac130. And especially with new VTOL technology, and the ability to hover, this would be great if adapted to modern combat, like the MA deuce has been.

[@somethingelse4878]

Its better that the voice over now talks calmer and not like hes pooping and terrified like he used too

[@michaelkinsey4649]

"up to three" So - three, then. 'Special tractors with feet' - shows photo of gun with feet and tractor with normal wheels. I'm beginning to doubt the research accuracy.

[@bryangrote8781]

Intercontinental Ballistic Artillery

[@oneshotme]

Enjoyed your video and I gave it a Thumbs Up for support

[@nmcgunagle]

You shoot that thing straight up in the air and you’re gonna put the earth out of its orbit. Be careful lol

[@darinr9424]

U stupid?

[@simonparent7644]

The same goes for the second Gerat gun mentioned which according to the voiceover could lob a shell at 8.900 Kilometers when it should be 8900 metres!

[@andrewclayton4181]

Couple of minor errors you said 18th c. at one point meaning 19th. Also gave gun ranges in km's when meters was intended. Like the archive films though.

[@billwalker9509]

A range of 14000 km? A range of 9000 kilometers? 5600 miles? I don't think so.

[@shadowjack8]

4:27 14,000 thousand kilometers? That would be about 8,700 miles. How did they manage to loose the war? And 5:58.

[@felixdk8727]

How can these errors not be detected? It is very strange that the producers and team behind the video don't pay attention.

[@genebohannon8820]

I would like a nice borders twin mount for my Super duty 7.3L!.

[@BlackWater_49]

5:55 NO, I looked it up and it's 9.5 km or 9 500 m. Modern field artillery can only manage up to 300 km.

[@wayneandrus307]

Excellent

[@Harry-q2q6y]

@5min. 50 seconds (or so): "..range of 9500km?" The ICBMs of their day. 🚀

[@AnthonyTobyEllenor-pi4jq]

The first time I ever read and heard about the real reason for WW1, the animosity the French had against Germany, unfortunately the French involved the UK which lead to the UK reluctantly joining forces with a Country we had been fighting against on and off for a thousand years, against our cousins, the Germans. A terrible mistake which cost us our Empire and made us Bankrupt plus we lost so many good men, for nothing !

[@Keinapappa]

Wow...14000 km range. From Berlin to Perth Australia.

[@uweyaa]

Yes ,German can do,no problem !!😉

[@damienreyna5879]

That man at 2:04 just barely escaped one hell of an Injury!

[@sfperalta]

"...a range of almost 9,500 kilometers..."?? So it could fire a shell from Berlin to San Francisco? Now, THAT'S impressive!

[@davidneel8327]

How about a video on the two huge mortars the US built at the end of WW2 for use against Japan?

[@effexon]

so why not use those instead of nuke? WW2 guns were good enough to use shelling tactics and pressure surrounded enemy long enough... they leveled many big cities in europe... but I guess US having new toy just needed to get to test it... new toys can be banned afterall

[@davidneel8327]

@@effexon Japan surrened before they could be put to use.

[@peterellem849]

Big Bertha was the largest German siege gun and was used to shell behind allied lines with a range of over 30 km . Mounted on railway line with its own locomotive .

[@davidmurray5399]

During the siege of Liege, it was the 210 mm Morsers and the 150 mm Feldhaubitze that did most of the damage to the Belgian forts. The 420 mm Morser battery did take part in the shelling and destruction of Fort Loncin, but the poor and outdated construction of the Belgian forts[no rebar, just layers of concrete; no machine guns and fortress OP's that could be easily knocked out or captured, fort artillery that still fired with black powder and had rarely been fired until the war began]was more responsible for the relatively quick manner in which they fell.

[@peterslade5085]

The Czech firm, Skoda made powerful mortars and howitzers which the Germans used in the opening weeks of WW1.

[@kenoliver8913]

These guns were never "Prussian". There was never any such thing as the "Prussian Empire" you keep referring to anyway (prior to 1872 it was "Kingdom of Prussia" and after that Prussia was just a province in the German Empire). Krupp was (and is) a Ruhr firm - at the other end of Germany from Prussia. And more than half of the Big Berthas used to destroy the Belgian and Przemysl forts were actually Skodas (Austrian).

[@daansandee7296]

Actually the Rhineland was part of the Kingdom of Prussia since 1814 (Congress of Vienna.). But I apologize for being picky about a small error, compared with the several gross errors perpetrated in this video.

[@graemesydney38]

0:08 The dog was the first casualty of WW1

[@davewave1982]

His correct pronounciation of foreign words proves that it’s not digital voice even though I’ve thought that for ages but I’ve watched all the videos on all the channels and it’s hard to tell still.

[@MSimmonsAZ]

14,000 km is quite a range. I think he misspoke 4:28 and 9500 km 5:58

[@PauloAdriano-zo2ng]

How about 14,000 meters? 🤔

[@TheYeti308]

Something had to be done ; enter Krupp , Hold my BEER . !

[@bengalirider6820]

Germans are the Germans.... The Best in technology.👌

[@John_Redcorn_]

So awesome they named golf clubs after it.

[@troyc4841]

They whack balls 300km I hear.

[@Matt-tx1tc]

9500KM range?!?!?!

[@edwardfletcher7790]

More proof the voice is digital ☹️

[@marksides9757]

I doubt that forts during the 1700s (18th century) were worried about Krupp siege howitzers or had revolving/retracting turrets. You're doing a service to everyone by keeping military history alive. Please take time to get your facts right.

[@dysnomia-anarchia]

Artillery - why you never ever want to join the army and play soldier.. There ain't not stopping a bomb dropping right into your trench, foxhole, tent, ship, tank, or truck.

[@BlackWater_49]

4:22 That can't possibly be true since that would mean that that things could lob shells over a third of the earth's circumference, something even modern field artillery can't do.

[@DaveWaddling]

That distance let the Germans hit Los Angeles from Berlin 🤭

[@sirdudleynightshade8747]

M-Gerat firing 9,000 kilometres??? You've got to be kidding!

[@SenorTucano]

Why fit it with a gun shield when it could out range anything on the battlefield?

[@chadscriven6208]

Muzzle blast maybe?

[@northernpatriot9078]

SUP NOW WE GOT THEM RAIL GUNS EH

[@rocketscientisttoo]

The Germans attacked France in WWI by first attacking Belgium, thereby circumventing French fortifications. Isn't that exactly what they did in WWII?

[@paulroberts3639]

With those alleged ranges, the Germans could have been left the guns in Berlin and aimed at Paris, London, Cape Town, Sydney and Vostok Base Antarctica.

[@leongt1954]

The gun could fire projectiles weighing up to 1,785 pounds (810 kg) to a distance of almost six miles (9 km).

[@aussiefan354]

9500km???? That some serious range!!!

[@davepowell7168]

Ordnance not 'Ordinance ', the subject is poliorcetics

[@playpro11]

In the first few minutes your VO refers to weapons in the 18th century, but I believe you meant the 19th (1800s).

[@taunteratwill1787]

"The Gamma had a firing range of 14.000 kilometres" REALLY ?! 😅😅😂😂😅😅

[@tonycash8544]

14000k kms?

[@aitorruizgarcia8081]

The German Empire was mostly showing off with this gun. The 14000km range wasn't necessary to outrange the french fortress defenses.

[@TheYeti308]

Can You get Me a KRUPP AG Shirt in Med .

[@DaiElsan]

Way off there son, 14,000km? and 9500km?

[@ducksrgud]

I know you now know but you put meters as kilometers.

[@markrowland1366]

I too forget to weird my work. A range of 8500 kilometres?

[@niblack11]

At the minute mark 4:27 you said 14,000 kilometers. Clearly, you meant to say 14,000 meters?

[@Paul-g9m5j]

14,000 km range? Well that means most nation states were vulnerable!

[@diamantschwarzmet]

„Dicke Berta“ means „thick Berta“, not Big. No one talks about „Große Berta“ in Germany, only „Dicke Berta“ as I was told from childhood on.

[@daansandee7296]

"Dick", when applied to people, means obese, not stupid. So "Fat Bertha" is correct. On the other hand, the German nickname has been translate into English as "Big Bertha" for over a hundred years, so it's a bit late to get picky about it.

[@Zurvan101]

14000 Kilometres? Inter Continental Ballistic Typo

[@coltenrobinson3248]

This actually made me laugh.

[@wallacegrommet3479]

9,500 kilometers? Yes like 6,000 miles, right.

[@brianjonboeckler2813]

Can't think of a better weapon in WW 1. If only it could have been better deployed.

[@Creppystories123]

I remember having a dream of looking through the tech tree in world of tanks blitz and I saw big bertha...couldn't buy it

[@cameronkrause4712]

well made video

[@johnrogers1423]

Range of almost nine thousand five hundred kilometres. Perhaps 9,500 metres.

[@beachboy0505]

Excellent video 📹

[@Verdunveteran]

Sorry, mate! I do not want to insult you in any way. But when I see someone who actually takes this garbage piece of shit video for "excellent" I have to step in. There are so many errors in this video that it's not even funny!!! Completely messing up the ranges by stating kilometres when it should be meters. Talking about 30,5 cm Beta-Gerät, which was the predecessor of the 42 cm Gamma-Gerät and not the 42 cm M-Gerät, yet showing photos of the 30,5 cm Beta-M-Gerät aka the 30,5 cm schwere Kartaune which was supposed to replace the 42 cm M-Gerät in 1918. When the actual predecessor was the 30,5 cm Beta in Räderlafette off which only one was built yet is not mentioned at all. Talking about the French fortifications the 42 cm M-Gerät aswell as the 42 cm Gamma-Gerät were designed to defeat, yet only showing two photos of one of these forts, Fort de Douaumont at Verdun, while all the other photage show post war Maginot-line fortifications and German Westwall bunkers. And the issue with 42 cm M-Geräte aswell as Gamma-Geräte due to faulty ammunition all accured in 1916 at Verdun, not in 1917 as mentioned in this video. Yes, the only two 42 cm M-geräte that survived the war and was not scrapped more or less directly after the Armistice was indeed the two handed over by the 5. KMK-battery to the US forces at Spincourt, to the North-East of Verdun in November 1918. Both ended up at the Aberdeen Proving Grounds after their evaluation, one displayed in battery, the other kept in storage in it's transport configuration. But only one of these were scrapped in 1943, most likely due to the need for scrap metal for the current war effort. The second one remained until it was scrapped in the early 1950's. Why is unclear. These are just a few of the errors and issues in this video. And there are so many more! And to be honest, even Wikipedia article on the 42 cm M-Gerät is a better choice for learning about the "Dicke Bertha" as it doesn't even contain a fraction of the errors and issues this video contains! So if you actually want to learn about the 42cm kurze Marinekanone 14 L/12 in Räderlafette aka 42 cm M-Gerät (which is short for Minenwerfer-Gerät in case you wondered), don't rely on this video as it only misleads you with a shitload of historical errors and other issues. If you really want to learn historically accurate facts and history of the "Dicke Berta", I highly recommend you to read the book '42 cm "Big Bertha" and German Siege Artillery of World War I' from 2013, written by Marc Romanych and Martin Rupp, illustrated by H Morshead and published by Osprey Publishing Ltd. A good alternative is also Herbert Jäger's 'German Artillery of World War One' from 2001.

[@derin111]

Given their range why did they bother installing those shields on the front? Surely, they would have been nowhere near enemy counter fire especially small arms?

[@BarrettCharlebois]

Can you cover the BOMARC missile?

[@seetheforest]

5:58 "the gun had a range of 9,500 kilometers" or 5,903 miles or roughly 1,000 miles farther than New York to Hawaii. Which is about 4,983 miles. Basically 1/4 of the way around the entire planet which is 24,901 miles. 24,901 ÷ 5903 = 4.218 It think 9,500 meters not kilometers is more like the range. 5.903 miles not 5,000 miles.

[@shaunmcdaniels2460]

Thank you for the good, informative, and entertaining video!!!!

[@utahliberator]

14,000 kilometers?!

[@Ponger6491]

That 14,000 km though. They could shell New York from Germany. 😆

[@Sodden316]

0:09 that dog is gone

[@964cuplove]

14000 km reach ?! I assume you are talking Meters there…

[@xxxx4xyx]

European can't leave without conflict. They don't known the meaning of brotherhood...

[@o2wow]

5:56 A 9,500-kilometer range??? Perhaps 9,500 meters?

[@sirmonkeyboy1789]

Despite the inaccuracies of the range, these bloody weapons were just another part of the meat grinder that was the European campaign in WW1

[@Based-Bulgarian]

I Like this gun...

[@dufus7396]

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