Big Boy 4014 Charges Up Donner | Big Boy Westward Bound Tour

[@ThatBIGTRAINGuy]

Awesome shots. And you captured the sound better than most other videos too! Great stuff. Thanks so much for sharing this. Simon

[@CaidTheRailfan]

@@ThatBIGTRAINGuy Thanks!

[@OrionBerg]

70 to 80 years ago that very locomotive, along with others just like it, was pulling freight up and down those very tracks. She’s right at home 😊

[@CaidTheRailfan]

Technically, no, the Union Pacific bought out the Southern Pacific (ex owner of the Roseville Sub) in 1996, way after 4014s revenue retirement.

[@foraminuteforaminute4056]

@@CaidTheRailfan Wonder if any cars were ever transferred directly between 4014 and 4294 and (admittedly far less likely) if any that were still exist.

[@CaidTheRailfan]

@@foraminuteforaminute4056 4294 and 4014 were stationed at 2 different places. 4014 was made to haul heavy freight trains from Cheyenne to Laramie. 4294 was mad for heavy freight over donner.

[@foraminuteforaminute4056]

@@CaidTheRailfan Neither one ever went as far as Ogden?

[@CaidTheRailfan]

@@foraminuteforaminute4056 4014 probably went to ogden, 4294 most likely hasn’t.

[@RobereTurbo]

Whatta super great Engine from the great Era of Steam !! We saw 4014 this week in the city of West, Texas. He stopped Right in front of us to do the grease maintenance on the drive bar bearings. It's wheel drive bar bearings need to be greased every 80miles. I uploaded 3 videos of 4014 for you all.

[@LynneWilliams-bi1tx]

Yay Texas! At least you didn't call Big Boy a girl.😅😂❤

[@ScottKew-g8r]

I like the routing this tour took into Northern California. Westbound down the Feather River Canyon and then Eastbound up and over Donner Pass. Too Cool. Super NICE video here. Thank you for sharing!!

[@CaidTheRailfan]

@@ScottKew-g8r I bet the shots up at Portola were great with the WPRM!

[@michaelmckenzie9542]

Hence western Pacific the feather river route.good call UP!

[@caltrain908railfan]

Man I wish I could have seen it leaving, Also you did a great video. I love the Donner shots.

[@CaidTheRailfan]

@@caltrain908railfan thx bro

[@pageriskin8743]

Yep. Stupid onlookers

[@deltabravo1257]

People still insist on standing mere feet (or less) from the tracks. They just don't have a clue.

[@iyatemu]

If you're not standing on the ballast within the locomotive's loading gauge while the rails are ringing are you even really a railfan?

[@CaidTheRailfan]

@@deltabravo1257 Have you seen the videos of the CPKC 2816 incidents in mexico? Some autorack train reported people in between the track gauges on a bridge. People around steam trains are not very smart.

[@RUPE88]

Cry about it

[@Michael-t3b5b]

Got to make the train crew nervous not knowing when someone will do something unexpected

[@michaelinhouston9086]

Never mind the safety issues, you cannot get the full perspective of Big Boy when you are that close.

[@ELKABONGHERE]

Man that engine is a monster. Just flat out awe inspiring.

[@louGriggs1944]

You got some great shots here. Thank you.

[@Whatamidoinghere262]

I got to see BB when it was in Roseville before this. What a sight to behold!

[@marksongbird7534]

As someone stated, locomotives are the closest machines to having a soul.

[@CaidTheRailfan]

yup. each one has a personality

[@ИринаРатникова-т7п]

Они завораживают точно. На современные тепловозы точно нет такой реакции.

[@ИринаРатникова-т7п]

Спасибо большое автору видео!!! Он дал мне возможность живя в России наблюдать и восторгаться Большим Мальчиком😊❤❤❤❤❤

[@kbfbest]

Yep they will let you know when you piss then off really fast.

[@Yaivenov]

I'd have to include ships as well with the locomotives.

[@tonikeep4420]

"Above the sound of dripping rain, The distant moaning of a train- Whoo whoo. Oh that lonesome whistle, Drifts across the threstle, Whoo whoo. The clickety clack,comes echoing back, The blue in the night."😢

[@judybrown4430]

Where are you from please I grew up in Tennessee ❤

[@stevengriffin7873]

What a truly impressive,magnificent beast.Let's have a double header too!

[@jeremyjohnson457]

Now we need to get the second biggest and the third biggest steam locomotives back in action the cab forward and the Duluth Mesabi and iron Range Yellowstone

[@artiek1177]

It will be nice when 3985 is running again.

[@LynneWilliams-bi1tx]

I think diesel horns sound like "blatt! Blatt!" Wheras BB is a beautiful "whooo- whooo." 😅

[@anthony851]

I was surprised to see a road sign under the Auburn Bridge showing "Ophir Rd," Ophir being an unusual name I didn't think I would see it other than at the small town with that name in New Zealand. Photos of the landmarks on my flickr. Cool video by the way. Anthony

[@CaidTheRailfan]

thanks!

[@uffia.6817]

Excuse my ignorance but I have the impression that this huge engine doesn't emit much exhaust sound, at least compared to the chugging and puffing of the German steam locos I'm more familiar with (which can be heard from a mile away when going uphill with a load). Is the just the sound quality of the video, a lack of a challenging train weight to be pulled or is the BB simply relatively silent by design ?

[@CaidTheRailfan]

@@uffia.6817 Its most likely a combo of good mic quality and pulling less weight than intended to pull. Its still pretty load though, you can hear it chuffing up that grade from about 1/2 mile away.

[@kadenrobinson7067]

11:21 I love that stacktalk i wish i could see big boy myself someday

[@b3j8]

Man when he half-tones that whistle, I get a chill!😅

[@LynneWilliams-bi1tx]

ME TOO!

[@kevinbreaker2683]

4014❤🚂🎶✨️✨️

[@infaredxkingz8786]

And he's not built for passenger service, he's built for freight

[@michaelmckenzie9542]

Needs a cab forward.What they were designed for,donner pass and all the tunnels

[@ghtaboma]

That machine is alive!

[@tstormchaser-co5bi]

They used to run these same cars, with a different engine, from Denver to Cheyenne every year for the Big Daddy of Them All, the Cheyenne Frontier Days Rodeo. The mayor, governor, all sorts of dignitaries would ride that train. I won tickets one year to go on the train, and I was hooked. From then on, took lady, my best friend, who loved trains, and his girl and myself, and we went on that thing EVERY YEAR. We were quite well known on it. Robbed it once, well, dressed up as robbers for fun. Did all sorts of fun things. Everyone had such a great time on that train. It was one heck of a party train. We had bands on it, there was one car that would be known as "the party car" and another as the dance car, since there was a band and nothing but dancing in it. Ever danced on a train???? It can be interesting. The swinging and swaying of the music, and the tracks, they are not always in time...LOL. Anyways, got to meet some really fun people. Best parties I ever attended!!!!

[@karstenernst9897]

Astreine Aufnahme wunderschön Natur pur 👼🫶🙏🇩🇪🚂🚃🚂

[@johnathanfuell6820]

I love the BigBoy... But it JUST DOESN'T BELONG on Donner Pass. That route belongs to the queen of eSPee steam, AC-12 4294. If only the CSRM would even CONSIDER letting someone restore her to operation 😕

[@CaidTheRailfan]

@@johnathanfuell6820 Restoration of 4294 would be impossible. Too much money to rebuild and operate that CSRM doesn’t have.

[@benjisterchi5195]

@@CaidTheRailfan that’s BS

[@CaidTheRailfan]

@@benjisterchi5195 I agree, however much funding CSRM needs they should get because 4294 is a beast that deserves to show her power

[@jamesdezarn-xt8cu]

It is too bad they could not get an original crew employee that may have worked on one of these in the late 1950's or early 1960's and put the up on the head end! There are surely people alive that were crew members on these big boys. I am 73 and worked on the CB&Q in 1969 doing these jobs. I would love to hear from these original crewmen about their perspective of the last runs of these giants!

[@PercyPruneMHDOIFandBars]

Some of the earlier cars of the train appear to have people's names on. I'm curious. Are they sponsors or historical figures within US railways?

[@CaidTheRailfan]

@@PercyPruneMHDOIFandBars Art Lockman and Lynn Nystrom were crew for UP Steam and Howard Fogg was an painter who specialized in railway art. He was hired as ALCOs company artist.

[@PercyPruneMHDOIFandBars]

@CaidRaifannerGuy: Thanks! What a cool way to commemorate someone! 😊

[@tstormchaser-co5bi]

Those are some AWESOME cars to ride in and enjoy the history of. I had the pleasure of taking numerous trips in them. I would go on an annual train trip from Denver to Cheyenne for Frontier Days Rodeo with a large group of both regular folks and dignitaries. My first trip I happened to win the tickets from the local newspaper, the Denver Post, who sponsored the event. Once I went on the trip, I was hooked. I went on it for fifteen years until the paper shut down and they cancelled the event. Oh, what wild and fun times those were. We had everything happen from break downs to weather delays, and on my early trips, there was no limits on the alcohol. Later, they did have limits. That happened after the train broke down and no sober people made it back, except me. I don't drink. I would later sell my drink tickets, but that is another story. I could tell so many, like the time we robbed the train, but, no, not really, just dressed up as robbers. It was all for fun. So much fun. My group became very well known on that train. VERY WELL KNOWN. We were a fun group and part of a group of regulars who took that trip. Got to know the governor that way. Hickenlooper, that is. He loved to take that ride. Anyways, it is just as nice inside. Wood tables, nice leather and or cloth seats. Kitchen facilities, bars, bathrooms are nice, sitting rooms also. Luxury all the way.

[@ScottKew-g8r]

I wonder what the final $$$$ tag was on the rebulld of this locomotive, including all the transportation back to the rebuild shops was?

[@CaidTheRailfan]

@@ScottKew-g8r Nobody really knows, but its estimated around $4 million

[@railroad9000]

@@CaidTheRailfan Well worth the cost!!!!

[@michaelmckenzie9542]

Up is to be commended for spending money on their heritage!

[@michaelmckenzie9542]

It’s all me have, what we leave behind

[@railroad9000]

@@michaelmckenzie9542 Absolutely correct!

[@Scagguy4014]

get up that hill soldier!

[@CaidTheRailfan]

@@Scagguy4014 You know its serious when they have to turn on the diesel to help the largest steam locomotive in the world!

[@Biblicallyaccurateseal]

​@@CaidTheRailfan2 things are possible 1 it's known that there don't want to damage big boy because of it's age so they asked the other loco for help 2its possibly thr dynamic braking in action (the reason the othe loco is there)

[@CaidTheRailfan]

@@Biblicallyaccurateseal Correct! Those brake shoes and one-of-a-kind and expensive! Rather use the dynamics

[@graysonedwards8875]

Is there a CHALLENGER that's still operational?

[@CaidTheRailfan]

@@graysonedwards8875 Sadly, no. Only 2 Challengers survived, one of which is undergoing restoration at RRHMA in Silvis, Illinois.

[@graysonedwards8875]

@@CaidTheRailfan TY

[@Scagguy4014]

it will be

[@artiek1177]

@@CaidTheRailfanThat’s UP 3985.

[@lashendawest7509]

Great heritage catches awesome chase and nice video

[@maru9517]

never be on the wrong side of the tracks in a medical emergency

[@russellevans2446]

Why would you purposely subject your pet to that? People have no situational awareness. 😢 I promise, your dog doesn't think that's "cool".

[@CaidTheRailfan]

Agreed. Its like fireworks.

[@michaelmckenzie9542]

People be stupid

[@LynneWilliams-bi1tx]

Yeah, more stupidity. 😢

[@LymanSheba]

Why is there a diesel engine embedded in the train group?

[@CaidTheRailfan]

It powers the coaches and helps 4014 up the grade.

[@haroldwilkerson2026]

​@@CaidTheRailfanI never thought of the normal engine powering the cars for their heat and electricity I thought they were self-powered or had generators

[@erisdiscordia1649]

That diesel is at idle, ready for dynamic braking on the slide down Donner Pass.

[@CaidTheRailfan]

@@erisdiscordia1649 At the Emmigrants Gap clip, the diesel sounds are way different than while idle. Plus, there wouldn’t be that much smoke while idle.

[@artiek1177]

Ed once says that they use the diesel for power on occasion to reduce the wear and tear on 4014. Also, they use the diesel for dynamic breaking as the brake shoes are so expensive (bring they’re custom made).

[@colingymer]

Looks as if some folks have difficulty understanding what 25ft away from the track means!

[@CaidTheRailfan]

yup, some people are not very good at eyeballing.

[@DdD-pi8jw]

I guess that’s up to them, right Karen??

[@LynneWilliams-bi1tx]

​@@DdD-pi8jwU idiot.

[@socialite1283]

Not convinced that burning oil that inefficiently - producing smoke THAT black - produces the most heat out of the oil. Just suggests to me that it's not drawing enough air for the size of the flame.

[@HankAmericanEngine]

That may also be sand being sucked through to clean the flue tubes in the boiler.

[@robertheinkel6225]

Sometimes it is done for a photo op.

[@benjisterchi5195]

How long have you been an engineer?

[@socialite1283]

@@benjisterchi5195 Nothing to do with engineering. This is chemistry.

[@robertheinkel6225]

Mostly because the photographers love the shot.

[@alowatsakima8950]

WOW! that is some serious charging isn't it.

[@katiejo1095]

Beautiful ❤

[@michaelinhouston9086]

Well done

[@CaidTheRailfan]

Thanks!

[@BobWaters85]

Why do European steam engines start their acceleration by spinning their driver wheels from a standstill?

[@johnmagnusson7545]

People are supposed to stand 25 feet away from the track Always

[@CaidTheRailfan]

people still insist to stand closer, even sometimes in the track gauge.

[@benjisterchi5195]

@@CaidTheRailfan do you work for UP?

[@CaidTheRailfan]

@@benjisterchi5195 no, why

[@DdD-pi8jw]

Ok Karen

[@Biblicallyaccurateseal]

​@@DdD-pi8jwum yes they should stay 25 feet away it's stop people getting flattened

[@justaperson8560]

Some one please fix the whistle I wanna hear it how it’s supposed to be

[@MikeM-uz4yb]

The steam whistle is bit lower in tone than usual (as it could be dirty from use), but otherwise normal sounding.

[@b3j8]

Sounds fine to me. Maybe a tad lower pitch, but still sharp.

[@barrysheridan9186]

Impressive.

[@deerhuntersteve9559]

Leave your comments/explanations on the screen longer. Post is too fast to read.

[@CaidTheRailfan]

@@deerhuntersteve9559 pause it bruh

[@russellevans2446]

​@CaidRailfannerGuy by the time I move my hand to pause it, the caption was already gone. So we need to stop, rewind, pause to read, then play. Would it hurt you to leave them up 10 more seconds??

[@CaidTheRailfan]

@@russellevans2446 only some people want to read them.

[@kimnielsen3111]

Why do bigboy have a diesel loco after again...i thought they stopped driving with a diesel helper

[@erisdiscordia1649]

They did, and I believe they still intend to, but Donner Pass is mountainous, so they got the diesel for dynamic braking.

[@ryantaylor1820]

Braking

[@infaredxkingz8786]

there's people who doesn't have enough information about 4014, because they keep Calling him a girl

[@robertheinkel6225]

Men tend to call their vehicles female names, while women tend to call their vehicles male names. So most guys will affectionately call 4014 a her.

[@LynneWilliams-bi1tx]

​@@robertheinkel6225Still, it's an insult to BB! 😅

[@whitetailfox1]

She's screaming "more weight"

[@infaredxkingz8786]

Look, if you call 4014 beastly names, this is not a girl for God's sake

[@hunterwolfscar2287]

Wow.

[@jacobhelmickjacobhelmick]

Jacob is helmick is union Pacific 4014 steam crew is 25 is feet back safety awarD

[@DdD-pi8jw]

COAL BABY!! COAL!!!!!

[@TheDrumLife2]

The funny part is the people standing and cheering on the side are probably the ones who voted to "save the air" which screws over every person who owns a vehicle. Meanwhile they stand there as this belches gorgeous black smoke into the air. I love it.

[@DdD-pi8jw]

@ liberals are hypocritical liars. They even lie to themselves.

[@tstormchaser-co5bi]

Actually, it is an oil burning engine. The two tankers following the unit carry the oil that the engine will burn to fuel its adventure. There is no coal tender and no need for anyone to shovel coal into the burner. It is fed into the unit via fuel lines.

[@DdD-pi8jw]

@ just like the Shay Engines, they were originally coal powered. The Shay’s haven’t been converted to coal. Not yet anyway.

[@michaelmckenzie5232]

No was southern pacific only

[@CaidTheRailfan]

@@michaelmckenzie5232 UP merged with SP in 1996, inheriting all trackage and equipment.

[@michaelmckenzie5232]

@@CaidTheRailfan yeah knew that, but big boy never ran that donner pass route was exclusive to SP.grew up 1 mile from the Phoenix to Roll sun.Still live within 5 miles of it.Before the Amtrak derailment

[@michaelmckenzie5232]

That was one busy sun in the day

[@kempmt1]

Is she still chugging coal or is she running on an alternate fuel source?

[@CaidTheRailfan]

They converted her to burning oil due to her sister engine, 3985, setting so many track fires during her time burning coal.

[@LynneWilliams-bi1tx]

"She"??..😅😂😅😅😅

[@Blake4625kHz]

I heard the diesel helps out too much.

[@CaidTheRailfan]

@@Blake4625kHz Yes. The diesel is used to provide extra braking power die to 4014s weak brakes.

[@Blake4625kHz]

@@CaidTheRailfan i heard the diesel helps out pulling

[@michaelmckenzie9542]

@@Blake4625kHz FRA rules.4014 has friction brakes no longer allowed.Diesel has dynamic brakes per current rules.also supplies electric power for the cars.No power to propel train just dead weight.Big Boy doing all the work!

[@Knitting_n_Trucking]

If you are on the rocks, you’re to close!

[@davidbhinckley]

By all means bring your pet to this event 🙉

[@mrgone658]

🤨

[@garywalker5791]

Shame about the bastard diesel !!

[@ryandunham1047]

25 feet or more, people, for God’s sake! 🤦‍♂️

[@DdD-pi8jw]

Shut up!! Good god!! Karens abound !

[@BennyCFD]

You ever notice that Big Boy 4014 always needs a diesel electric locomotive for it to move. Can't it operate by it's self.

[@CaidTheRailfan]

4014 infact does not need a diesel to operate, it was equipped with PTC a few weeks ago, which complies with FRA standards. The only reason they are using a diesel is to power the coaches and help 4014 up the grade.

[@gaborgredely1848]

A vontatott szerelvény enegia igényét elégiti ki. Gondolom van konyha, étkező kocsi. Légondicionállás, esetleg fűtési igény. Nálunk is ha egy régi gőzmozdony vontat, akkor a szerelvény végén egy vészhelyzeti diesel van. Köszi a feltöltést, gyönyörű a táj!! ❤❤❤🎉

[@danielhandler6646]

@@CaidTheRailfanthat diesel locomotive does not power the coaches. A separate generator car does that. That diesel locomotive rarely helps on hills, it's only to extend fuel or water mileage when absolutely necessary. It does provide more load in the steam engine by operating with dynamic brakes activated, and it uses its dynamic brakes on hills to prevent excessive brake shoe wear on the steam engine and passenger cars.

[@up844productions8]

In certain places in the video you can hear that SD70 in high notches pulling amps helping ​@@danielhandler6646

[@bcbloc02]

4014 is over 80 years old. Most 80 year olds are glad to have a little extra help getting around.😅

[@quagmiredavis4117]

I thought nanny diesel was gone ,, due to some modifications on big boy .. was this bullshit as usual ... big boy ran for years without a nanny 😊

[@CaidTheRailfan]

@@quagmiredavis4117 The diesel powers the coaches and helps Big Boy up the grade.

[@henryw4129]

@@CaidTheRailfan The 4014 Big Boy ran a few times recently without any diesel in the consist. St.

[@eva.cassidy]

@@CaidTheRailfan Actually it provides dynamic breaking and helps on steeper grades, like it was doing in the mountains where you can see the 4014 and 1983 both smoking getting up the hill. There's a generator car that powers the coaches.

[@CaidTheRailfan]

@@eva.cassidy Ah, thanks for the info!

[@benjisterchi5195]

Why don’t you ask a more intelligent question, like how much do you think brake pads cost for 4014? Also they are not available at your local NAPA auto parts store.