BIG Changes in Patch 5.2! - Warhammer 3

[@bluemilkalienmonster522]

I’d like to imagine that you shed a single tear of joy when they said they were finally tackling the tree acne problem

[@Weberkooks]

He is the man that coined the term tree acne and it's finally being addressed

[@bluntlyhonest6803]

i sure did. its beautiful.

[@Sleepingdruid37]

I mean that was a juicy cherry on top for sure.

[@LemonFlump]

I know I did, I didn’t lose sleep over it but damn did it bug the hell out of me

[@jordinagel1184]

@@LemonFlumpprobably came about as a result of how GW makes forest terrain (that is to say, in little clumps like that) and CA wanting to make it similar to the tabletop

[@Daktangle]

I do like how "building tall" for Dwarfs involves digging down instead of building upwards. :D

[@goblinslayer310]

i mean since when were the dwarfs... you know... tall? gotta make space for those massive BALLS of rock and stone

[@SoulStealer996]

@@goblinslayer310 aaand in the book you go :D

[@DeathByRabbit]

Tall is a matter of perspective :D

[@paulovinasrocha6166]

@@SoulStealer996 f to the book

[@villefere6968]

Dwarfs play low

[@DarthLeon2]

4:39 A cult building that increases the strength of enemy armies but massively increases rewards for fighting there is such a Khorne idea.

[@inductivegrunt94]

Dwarfs can now outskaven the Skaven with their own undercities!

[@scelonferdi]

Aaaand in the book it goes...

[@inductivegrunt94]

@scelonferdi What? All I'm saying is anything the Skaven can do with undercities the Dwarfs can do better. No need for the book here.

[@SUPERNICHOLAS88]

@@inductivegrunt94 "their own"? They have always been OUR undercities! But it's okay, i'll let this one pass for today

[@inductivegrunt94]

@@SUPERNICHOLAS88 Gamewise, Dwarfs only now have true undercities. Lorewise, Skaven have their own undercities but regularly break into Dwarf underways and use them for their own purposes. Now that Dwarfs in the game have their own undercities, they can fight the Skaven at their own game and retake their underways from the rat invaders.

[@scelonferdi]

@@inductivegrunt94 Outskavening the Skaven definetly goes in the book. How can you insinuate dwarfs would skaven anything?

[@burjisazrael4164]

That tree acne remedy alone makes me want to start a new campaign!

[@wolfie54321]

Best part of the update for me! I hated the tree acne, from the moment I started TWW3 I wondered why the maps all feel like junk compared to TWW2, once I realised it was tree acne I couldn't unsee it.

[@thomasmedveddubois4566]

The empire player still waiting for the option to destroy the statue of Sigmar that block 90% of hellstorm projectile

[@Atokukau]

"NOT MY EMPIRE!"

[@TeteBruleeFR]

Destroying the statue of Sigmar?! Burn the heretic!

[@rafazub7654]

NOT ON MY WATCH!

[@FidgetTheMidget8P]

Why don't we take the statue of Sigmar and push it somewhere else?

[@tehguybro]

Rather give the EMpire the option to push that sucker over and crush half of the enemy's army

[@Zettern96]

Only Zhao Ming gets two caravans at the start.

[@x420ninjabearx8]

Came here to say this

[@Eclipsed_Embers]

@@x420ninjabearx8 as did I Zhao Ming starts with 2 and the technology gives a maximum of 3 Miao Ying and Yuan Bo start with 1 and the technology gives a maximum of 2 so it's still a bit of a step down from convoys (where Astragoth and Drazhoath have a maximum of 3 and Zhatan has a maximum of 4) but it's still definitely a step up from Cathay's old system I just hope that some of their random enemy encounters are against things other than Ogres...

[@Thedefenses]

@@Eclipsed_Embers I think its fine that Cathay has a lower max cap, they can only trade money for more money unlike the Chaos Dwarfs that can use the convoys to exchange a lot of resources to others.

[@Eclipsed_Embers]

@@Thedefenses I agree that it's fine. it's certainly less of a core mechanic for Cathay (Cathay can have a pretty good economy without them but if Chaos Dwarfs want to be self-sustaining (and by that I mean not constantly expanding/fighting/raiding) they basically rely on the convoys to get laborers)

[@chocho6766]

​@@Thedefenses ehat if they get rid of the cap ? So you could just play with caravan

[@FacepalmNinja995]

Me, a goldtooth player, weeping in agony as grimgor now has even more ways to murder me in the early game.

[@Sylvester4571]

WAAAAAGGGHHHHH

[@TheGreatDanish]

Why are you playing ogres? They aren't a real faction

[@TheGreatThicc]

​@@TheGreatDanish because they like ogres and have the option to play them... Why does it matter?

[@FacepalmNinja995]

@@TheGreatDanish I happen to quite like my jiggly ogre bois thank you very much

[@robosoldier11]

The greenskin unit addition I think is genuinely the most intriguing. It shows CA is willing to allow the gabs to be filled in rosters without requiring DLC. Which frankly some armies can and should get some additions similar to what we saw here.

[@leeroyjenkins6103]

Now if we could get the maps to not all be 30 degree slopes in nine different directions we might be able to use field guns on a regular basis.

[@Chrisconditioning]

"after 8 years they finally learned how to use their spears" haha

[@robosoldier11]

The greenskin unit addition I think is genuinely the most intriguing. It shows CA is willing to allow the gabs to be filled in rosters without requiring DLC. Which frankly some armies can and should get some additions similar to what we saw here.

[@JohnSmith-bs9ym]

​@@robosoldier11 Like my beloved Bretonia 😢

[@robosoldier11]

@@JohnSmith-bs9ym Brettonia could use some foot knights. Or maybe some additional man at arms alternatives. Or those robin hood esq. units they got. There is just alot of untapped potential for some factions simply cause the big wigs at CA have to an extent restrict that to solely DLC.

[@Asrahn]

I'm honestly incredibly hyped about the dwarf "tall", or I guess, "deep" playstyle opening up with this update. Looks sick as hell

[@sparkyspinz9897]

Its pretty fun so far. Its nice to be able to get such absolutely massive garrisons. You can get to a point where just your garrison can beat very tough armies. Nice for late game ive found. Its great for keeping your province capitals safe while your good armies take the fight wherever you need them.

[@zeldov5735]

It's amazing. I built the guild foundry which gives you 5% bonus income per turn in karaz a karak on turn 96. Went from ~2000 income to 7600 lmao Also just building the "seal the hold" slot in an isolated hold and watch the AI besiege it for years (it makes it so that you don't get any attrition from being besieged)

[@oooeee5556]

The so-called "Knights" of Bretonnia when Grom pulls up with Goblins (Spears) doomstack that has anti-large.

[@Вейн-э5б]

Louen Leoncur after seeing Grom's goblin stack nearby: I'm in danger!

[@SUPERNICHOLAS88]

Grom already beat the sht out of Bretonnia on my campaigns without the new Goblins lol Bretonnia is doomed

[@Booklat1]

more antilarge, considering he already gave gobbos bonus vs large

[@Howardone]

"Zey av spearz nouw?"

[@Brother_O4TS]

Good thing you can kill him early as Carcassone before he snowballs, lol. Now I get why Legend ranks the Fay Enchantress higher than the other Bretonnian factions

[@erickraudi8661]

the path in between the trees at 7:22 looks really nice, it probably won't matter in the battle, but looks like something someone would do for traveling, it is a really nice touch

[@yamahadrag69]

Dwarfs actually getting to go underground?? Shenanigans

[@CommissarMitch]

There better be a Bloodthirster event should you dig too deep in one singular city.

[@SpiceCh]

It could just as easily be shard dragons or other unnamed ancient horrors. But in fairness, the magma chamber excavation does produce chaos corruption

[@12SickOne34]

Drums. Drums in the dark...

[@Hawkens4k]

Fly you fools!

[@MediocerPlay]

This is s super nice updated ^^ Happy things are happening out side of a DLC launch. Feels nice

[@Barnesofthenorth]

Was hoping for more Orc units but I guess some proper spears is something

[@elite_rock_god2292]

Now we just need savage orcs with spears. Spear throwers would be dope

[@derigel7662]

Next dlc is gunna be them thats why

[@Isvoor]

Fun fact: Your region counts as adjacent to other dorfs if you are both next to the tunnel passages that the big karaks have. Took me a while to realize, but makes the trading and drinking buildings better.

[@SoulessTwo]

Glad to hear that you enjoy the game. Everytime Chang Li smiles at the camera i nearly faint. 120 fps is so cool and can't wait to continue the new story event.

[@gunnerjensen5998]

unpopular opinion but having gaps in unit rosters isn't a problem for me. I don't want every roster having a dedicated counter for every matchup. We should be encouraged to use the factions strengths to overcome its weaknesses, not get rid of any weakness. I know units like to orc boys with spears aren't top tier but I never had an issue with cav giving the greenskins a harder time.

[@Sylvester4571]

Going up against Bretonnia (however you spell it, I'm stoned) has a shit ton of cavalry. I always struggle with the orcs early game vs them so now it will be a little easier

[@gunnerjensen5998]

@@Sylvester4571 I get it's a struggle but other factions you might have a particular advantage against. Basically I don't like every faction becoming more similar because they all have counters to every situation.

[@kenny3179]

I like your opinion, having clear strengths and weaknesses makes playing and fighting against factions feel different and using your brain to make armies that counter a faction you wanna invade would be worth it.

[@gunnerjensen5998]

@@kenny3179 exactly vs the current trajectory where you come up against a cav heavy faction and you think "let me recruit my generic anti large unit to solve this problem."

[@LungDrago]

Personally I both agree and disagree with your opinion to be honest. When a faction has a large, obvious weakness it's going to require solutions to the problems it causes. Solutions it might not always get, because they don't always exist unless they're baked in manually. To give an example, Vampire Counts have the known problem of (mostly) not having any ranged units. It works fine in the tabletop game due to how the rules and maps work and it works fine enough in TWWH in field battles, but it gets somewhat awkward in defensive sieges. Vampire Counts frankly get weaker when defending a siege and you might not always be able to avoid these sieges on the campaign. There's no easy solution to that - the one we currently have in the game is a couple of ranged units you do get access to in the campaign, but there's not a lot of them and you still have a problem with a lot of your magic being unusable on the walls. The point I'm making is that this distinct weakness that VC get causes them to interact poorly with an entire core feature of the game and the general idea behind these features is that they're balanced with each other as being always available and always working the same way. The rest of the game operates under the assumption that the defender of a siege gets an advantage. On the other hard though I definitely agree that it's important to keep the factions distinct so that there are actual gameplay considerations behind them and you're not literally just choosing the color of your troops' armor.

[@williamdante7470]

I wish they would change the buildings when your faction conquers it. Nothing bothers me more than reclaiming a lost hold and/or Karak with the dwarves and they just leave the Greenskin hovels up or the Gork & Mork decorations

[@CalebAdams]

I need the Norsca Rework/DLC to be next, we have been waiting long enough! Great video breaking the changes by the way ha

[@blueboi5140]

I kinda liked the trees in middle. Useful for pushing factions that are more ranged based.

[@dantewilliams2757]

I’m just happy from orc spears

[@Xiteri]

One undocumented change : Cultist of Slaanesh now finally have the Damage Walls hero action (the other 3 daemon factions had it on their cultists)

[@eracer166]

I’d love to see a similar system for Skaven if you take over a city with your own undercity under it.

[@ZetsubouGintama]

You know what? Tomb Kings should have under tomb mechanic so they can farm canopic jars. Also, we need skinks with spears.

[@InquisitorThomas]

You know… that wouldn’t be a terrible idea. Maybe tie it solely to settlements with a pyramid landmark? Like you construct Settra’s pyramid and you can access the tombs where more Tomb Guard and constructs are buried. Plus it remedy the fact that Nehekara proper is really small in Immortal Empires and Major Tomb King Cities like Numas got demoted down to minor settlements in Warhammer 3.

[@ZetsubouGintama]

@InquisitorThomas Or you can build minor pyramids that's not signature ones to get a small tomb bonus and flex on the land you just conquer or vessalize.

[@SpiceCh]

​@@InquisitorThomasturning the pyramid landmarks into "deeps" with unique building slots is a pretty enticing idea to be honest. Basically you'd be constructing the pyramids from scratch, one chamber at a time, eventually putting the capstone at the top and unlocking a big effect. Might be a more. Interesting way of doing the pyramids than the current version.

[@torquevonthorne948]

4:00 We can teleport our lord? That is actually very important for Nurgle Khorne and Slaanesh!

[@BazzBrother]

Maybe the grudges should just take on the Malakai system of creating spawn locations that you can send an army to, to fight a battle not tied to any particular factions who's territory you need to conquer. Reduces the need for territorial warfare, tunneling out to start that fight (and I swear it's been years since I fought a mercenary assist battle as empire, seemed like a fun system if it could be expanded on in some way)

[@stanlyEM]

glad the devs hear us

[@seans8479]

Nice Greenskin buff on the goblin spears, but Ork Boyz with Spears is awesome!

[@MikeJones-ip5zk]

Update the Beastmen skill tree PLEASE

[@SpiceCh]

All in good time

[@SquealingPig1651]

Maybe in 2036

[@ImperfectCT]

zerkovich was the first thing that came to mind when I read those patch notes. they heard you!

[@General_Ward]

I love your videos and have been watching for a long time. I specifically love how you structure your videos to have the best possible delivery of information but maintaining some entertaining style. Now, I would humbly ask if you could do a small series on Sins of a Solar Empire II. Odd pick but it can be very short if needed and I think it's coming up in popularity quickly

[@Aethgeir]

This is actually great! CA is finally addressing some of the longest standing issues. I'm actually feeling hopeful for this game for the first time is a long while.

[@DrTarte]

Helmgart's lost, folks.

[@insearchofprometheus]

They're... they're listening!

[@Brianlp32]

so grimgor will stomp the ogre now even more than before... screw the overtyrant i guess

[@qtipmotha]

This is a surprisingly significant update.

[@zipp4everyone263]

A really interesting start to fix what the ruinous CEO's (Chaos Empire Officers) caused ;) Would be wonderful if they start working on the terrain and siege walls blocking all outgoing bullets and arrows. Honestly makes walls less than useful. Also maybe give a wall defending unit some defensive buffs as to make walls more of an important obstacle rather than something that always falls within the first seconds of a battle (most historical castles were never breached, the defenders were starved out or betrayed more often than walls would be lost. You'd need an attacking army about 3 times as large than the defending army to even stand a chance to take a castle through brute force).

[@vargknight]

You only have two caravans from the start as Zhao Ming, others can get a second through research, but Zhao Ming can then get a third

[@JClif]

These are some great updates. I love that patches are bring good change.

[@lucasolivares2161]

Some pretty good changes really, the maps specially

[@leeboy26]

Ah I wonder why we had a sword and board gobbo in that video a few months back.

[@DrDouche75]

Thanks for the coverage! Honestly you're one of the best quick summary type of youtubers that i love, and about a game i love no less! ❤

[@nervosadustbolt9642]

THE CANTABURY TALES!!!! LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

[@MARStheFORSAKEN]

love the change to the trees as trees dont grow all spread out like weeds do, they spread like rust on a car or mold on bread.

[@TheGameDomeGuy]

the chaos heroes are now Chaos wittneses pestering the dwarfs and men of the empire with their pamphlets about the word of whoever the heck

[@artificialgravitas8954]

Great that they are maintaining the game as they should

[@BertShackleford]

Appreciate the rundown, Zerk. Stay classy my friend.

[@commentsaretrue4570]

I dont play much wh but got the unusual location instantly on turn 3 or something a couple of days ago. Some kind of skaven undercity in belegars starting city but it gave me a weird coin of ranald and went away

[@benjaminmarshall5071]

I just want the crashing randomly during battles glitch resolved.

[@xota-prebs4593]

My first run in the new patch was horrendus. Started as ironhammer, and before long, about turn 20, all the good guys were wiped out. No humans, bretonia, dwarfs or otherwise. Ogres, skarven, saltspire, beastmen and orcs had taken everything. Never seen that before!

[@hangingtreegg]

also: at this point can basic infantry just swap weapons? maybe tie it to a skill but swordsman and spearman could be the same dudes. thinking of how some magnetize their minis arms for different gear in 40k

[@JJaX80]

"For the Chinese" lol

[@NileJoye]

Given the new green skin units I think we finally need to get Grave guard halberds and Saurus great weapons!

[@curtisbrown547]

Can we see a update on the lizardmen in this vein next?? I would looooove if the geomantic web was actually interesting or unique.

[@matykerogaming8691]

It's like it's still in Beta with the utter volume of changes/updates/patches still being done. I'm glad they're addressing stuff, but this is years down the line, though I suppose it gives replayability more value...

[@richardmorales5145]

Why don't Chorfs get access to the deeps?

[@InquisitorThomas]

Presumably because Chaos Dwarfs already have a unique tall playstyle with their mines, factories, and towers.

[@richardmorales5145]

@@InquisitorThomas that isn't tall at all. To increase production you need more provinces. Both are dwarves and dig deep. One found gold. One found hashut.

[@SpiceCh]

They might get them too, down the line.

[@ClamInRamen]

I think Chorfs basically live in the wasteland and they build towers rather than burrowing deeper into the mountains, dont they? I think as an alternative to them it would be better to add a railroad as a quick way to travel between towers

[@SpiceCh]

@@ClamInRamen Chorfs also dig deep, but they do so much more aggressively than the normal Dwarfs. I wouldn't be surprised if the Chorfs got a deeps mechanic down the line, but it would be much more precarious than what the Dawi have. It would come with random events spawning demons, chance of buildings collapsing or damaging the settlement and the like, while I get the sense that the Dawi would take more care into doing everything "properly", according to the decrees of the ancestor gods (Zhuffbar notwithstanding (choffing engineers and their wild machinations and radical approaches)).

[@rathenn6959]

Great coverage of great changes. Keep it up lad

[@andarara-c1p]

I know is dim but the more I see this the more I hope for Ind and Khuresh to come out someday

[@pb3662]

Great video - succinct and covers all the info in your indomitable style...

[@ArchangelG2000]

Awesome update! No more random forest spots on the middle of the fricken battlefields! BEST UPDATE!

[@Cairsoir]

Helmgart? Ratsymbol? That shit is leaving alright, I've played Vermintides.

[@hangingtreegg]

building in the ability to dig too greedily with the corrupting building is A+ mechanics. dawi cant stop winning

[@blacklake13]

If they keep patching at this pace it's gonna make the mod scene a hellscape.

[@RPGManoWar]

Hey well we can't have it both ways Fans: "Modders out here doing the work CA won't do" CA: "Hey we're doing all the things you want us to do and that you've said you like" Fans: "No but my mods tho"

[@grimch9865]

Deep features are extremely strong and yes the building that gives corruption is worth it.

[@Koyu_Ruh]

The cult magus is a hero, whose only purpose in life is to create a cult. A one use hero, who immediately dies after establishing the cult. He puts a unique building underneath it, which steals about 10% of the income from the settlement and gives it to you. When he asks "What is my purpose?" You tell him to go and infect Zharr Naggrund and from there every other major settlement of factions you either never encounter yourself or who you team up with to steal some stuff from them. Further more it spreads your corruption, is the only building that lowers the discovery rate (by 20) and aside from the passive income and the upcoming rebellions, it's borderline useless, as the unique building replaces the magus building. If you want to rely on many cults, I suggest to infect your direct neighbors with your first cultists. Putting a cult underneath a city is on a timer - but per character. So in the early game you get a cultist, let him do his job and immediately replace him for a new guy to do it elsewhere to spread far and wide and get those juicy 10% taxes from Zharr Naggrund, as well as other juicy locations you won't conquer for yourself early on. It's broken, it will get your corruption everywhere and it will be changed in the future for a global cooldown, so use it while you can, because I see how it's going to break the game and how CA will probably have to change it sooner rather than later.

[@owb1979]

I want a Balrog random event if you build too far down!

[@To_Rue]

The devs finally took the maps to a dermatologist!

[@martind5653]

finally something for Skarsnik!

[@TheBranchez]

Now this is what you call a patch. It is sad that we had to wait all these years for something like this to happen.

[@Lancelot2000Lps]

The best change is the anti acne cream that C.A. bought, so good.

[@sten4556]

'Ironically play tall' ? That sounds like elf talk good sir.

[@spacesatan5840]

wow finally the orcs learned how to use long pointy sticks

[@qaramba]

Yeeeey, finally they reworked trees on the maps!

[@TexasBadger]

Zerk can you tell us what hardware you’re running in your computer and are you running in Ultra or High?

[@TheGlenn8]

I'm a really big fan of adding these small, easy to add units that require basically no modeling work and add something to rosters that was otherwise missing. Now they should also really add Marauders of Khorne (spears) and Chosen of Khorne (Halberds) simply because we do have Chaos Warriors of Khorne (Halberds) and it's kinda weird that we don't have the other two. And hear me out... Greatswords (Halberds). I'm not joking. Obviously give them a different name, but it's kinda weird that the empire does have armored infantry but that they're for some reason committed to only using greatswords.

[@grantguetschow5129]

Free flc for update 5.3 idea. We just got orc boyz(spears) & goblins (swords). maybe they are only giving free units to the DLC factions knowing consumers want new rather than reskins so the next might be Black Orcs (Sword & Shield) & Chosen of Khorne (Halberds).

[@BlackHawk4832]

Thanks, Zerk! Appreciate it!

[@TheGreatMoonFrog]

I wonder if they'll change up big'uns with the upcoming greenskins dlc now that they have specific anti-large infantry.

[@stevehernandez8897]

I'm glad they are adding new stuff to the orcs. My question is so both new units for ork are anti large and have shields, but the empire only has 1 anti large foot infantry with shield. So where is my halberd with shield ???? 🤔

[@dan180y7]

Glad they've changed the age of reckoning mechanic, it just didn't make sense, as you said the dawii are a defensive faction so having to constantly push them out all the time made no sense. If they wanted to keep age of reckoning it should be a choice to activate with bigger reward or bigger punishment if you don't make it

[@elegantoddity8609]

Now we're playing with dwarf balls. Thank you, I'll be here all week

[@elite_rock_god2292]

Soon as i saw this video i started up the game and updating it now. Super excited for the new dwarf thing😂

[@mistercat141]

zerky is coming back in hot

[@dospulgasenunperro]

Thank god for the map changes

[@MannyB13]

Regarding Cultists, do they automatically get the ability to manually spread Cults, or is that something that needs to be leveled up into or researched?

[@balintmagyar3285]

Yeah! Finally not just Big Ones will be antilarge! ❤

[@ddjay1363]

Good stuff 🙂 Also, it's nice that CA didn't put this behind a paywall of some 'DLC' bullshit for £20 to £25 like other studios might have done. (Yes Paradox I'm looking at you) ;-)

[@DeinosCZ]

Well time to try playing Dwarfs once again and this time ACTUALLY start digging xD

[@kipsper8722]

would it be a good adittion to get the option to choose between a few maps when atacked in encamp stance. because if you are waiting for your enemy you can choose the battlefield.

[@ATOMTAYLOR]

Looks pretty good.

[@Greg-xj3kb]

thanks Zerk you saved my life today..

[@димакокшаров-м8б]

Универсальная тактика боя с боссами - нанести пару ударов, уклонятся, выжидать момента когда откроется, потом повторить всё. Работает всегда, проверено

[@42thecakeisalie]

Finally they cut the damn trees !

[@TomorrowWeLive]

When are the High Elves going to get a mechanic that's actually unique and interesting? Not to mention their missing units.

[@thelonecabbage7834]

IMHO, swords should have no bonus while spears should have anti-infantry. They're goblins, a normal unit is large to them.

[@50RatsinaCoat]

*clears throat* GORBAD IRONCLAW IS COMING AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[@EveloGrave]

"Suppose to be harder" meanwhile Malus did nothing but stay in his capital for 15 turns then died to the tzeentch minor faction.