Big Ed And Liz Call Off Their Engagement (At the Engagement Party)...

Big Ed and Liz got Engaged, and then decided during the party to fight and call it off...
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[@sixteenleo]

Are you ready for the next one? The Fighting continues on the next episode. PS next month im going to shave my beard for just a moustache cos next month is Moustache month

[@jacobharding5843]

woooooo

[@SaltStorm007]

Sixteenleo-stache.......😁

[@icecreamlid]

Woooo

[@dhoryy6244]

It just hit me big ed looks like sans if sans was autistic

[@inagildedcage]

Woooo, Free Rosalita! 😂 Ready for this banger… Was going to say more, but Big Ed is talking to the grandparents, and I’m busy picking up my damn jaw off the floor. What even is this dude?

[@CJMGalaxy]

I don't especially like Liz, but she's absolutely in the right for cussing him out and running. Her friend, who happened to be a lesbian, who is IN A RELATIONSHIP, touched her. Just... touched her arm. And Ed assumes she's cheating with a woman, and gaslights the holy shit out of her. How else is she supposed to respond? You can't respond rationally to Big Ed, he'll never apologize and he cannot imagine himself being wrong.

[@Crithosceleg]

Yeah, I'm not on board for shaming someone for an emotional trauma response from an emotional abu ser like Ed. She needs to get as far away from this dude that targets younger, emotionally vulnerable women to stroke his own ego.

[@laurynburlock8959]

I heavily agree. On your engagement night, if your partner asks if you're in a relationship with someone you just kicked out of the event, he Can go f*ck himself. Of all the ways to ask about the situation, that's literally like a natural 20 in fricking crazy

[@RyanPancakes]

Ed has a pattern of this. I remember when they were on the single life and Liz ran into an ex at a club. She was upset about seeing her ex and when she went to Ed for support he accused her of trying to meet the ex there. Bro, what? She is at your house in tears from literally seeing him there. What I saw when she got angry and ran off was someone thinking "omg this shit again?"

[@pinkkrystalz7610]

👆This!!! Right here! Leo should understand that by the end of the day Liz is still the victim and Ed is the abuser. I get that he was trying to be reasonable, but by the way he's talking about her comes across as victim blaming and I had to stop watching the video because of it.

[@apriljk6557]

@@Crithosceleg so much this. I always say that people who haven't experienced narcissistic abuse have no idea how awful people can be.. .Liz is doing what's called reactive abuse...also her repeating the problem Ed had with the woman is not admitting he's correct. She's just saying what he thought. I've seen a couple KZbinrs misunderstand her and idk why it's not clear what she meant. Could it be that they're young and don't have the experience to understand the nuances? Idk I found it troubling.

[@perrilewis180]

Leo, Liz isn't being childish for running away from Ed. She's at her breaking point and is understandably upset. They are at their engagement party but what does he do? assume that's she's cheating on him. While being grossly homophobic. Oh no her friends who happens to be a lesbian talked to her and touched her. Ed acting calm is a tactic abusers use to make their victims look like they are the ones in the wrong or over reacting.

[@itsmeezee3818]

I agree. He's far too harsh on Liz and dosent talk about how abusive and manipulative Ed can be and that kinda irks me. Ed was far more in the wrong there.

[@claraaralc]

Literally what I was gonna say... This kind of commentary only works when both parties are on the same page! He's literally instigating all arguments and she's told him to f off and walked away, Leo's commentary and advice just doesn't work in this situation

[@egg4666]

Yeah and I know this isn't an excuse for one's action but also being drunk and expecting her to act rationally in that moment? Like I feel Ed should've known that at least

[@ncarrigan71]

Not to mention how he starts off the conversation on the phone to Liz. He starts off by telling her she ruined this, she ruined that. He projects his insecurities by telling her how she’s done all this and that, when he’s actually saying everything he’s doing. Blaming her for him cutting off contact with his mom and best friend. He’s toxic to the core🧪

[@jonahromero7476]

Ehhh, I mean ... it's an understandable response but still a choice that's only going to make things worse for herself and the relationship. In that way, it's childish. While leaving, she should have said something like, "We'll talk about this later, I just can't believe you'd bring it up tonight. I'm not talking about it now, you sleep on your own and we will talk when I'm ready because this is a relationship and you don't own me." Yeah, she's clearly behaving like a person who's been abused and is trapped in a shit relationship, but as someone who also has been in that situation: i acted extremely childishly throughout, even though I no longer blame myself for behaving like I did. Just because something is understandable, doesn't mean it isn't childish. In truth, neither of them should be in this relationship. It's either being held together by the TV show, or this is literally all an act to make the TV show and then they will break up at the wedding so they can go their separate ways with a big paycheck.

[@kellevichy]

I feel like this is coming across as blaming a victim of emotional abuse for finally hitting a snapping point after enduring for literally months of being abused. It's uncomfortable to be honest how Liz is being blamed for being "emotional" and talked badly about when Ed has been nothing short of nasty from the very beginning. Isolating her, manipulating her, fat-shaming her - a boiling point is beyond understandable for what she's suffered. And that reaction is what the abuser wants - to then point to the victim and say "Look, I told you, they're crazy and out of control."

[@Crithosceleg]

Couldn't agree with you more

[@pinkkrystalz7610]

Yeah. I had to stop watching the video after Leo had the audacity to say that Liz was "being childish" and "should've calmed down and talk" for running away from Ed after assuming that she's cheating on him AT THEIR OWN ENGAGEMENT PARTY and telling him to shut up while he's clearly gaslighting her. Big Ed is not the kind of person to reason with no matter who it is and it's so frustrating that Leo sat there and thought that Liz should be more reasonable to her abuser.

[@HopAndLockDropSoppityPop]

I am so glad people are pointing this out. It feels like Liz often gets unfairly blamed when she doesn't really deserve it. And in this situation she had every right to react how she did. You all said it best. This was kind of upsetting to watch.

[@jenniferberger2005]

I completely agree with you. There is this idea that an emotional response automatically is less valid than a logical response. Just because big Ed is sitting there calmly talking to a camera person after accusing Liz of cheating with a woman, at their own engagement party, that does not mean he is being logical. Just because Liz is crying and walking away as she explains her frustrations doesn't mean those frustrations aren't coming from a logical place. It makes me sad that so many people think this because often times abusers will push their victims past a boiling point and when the person reacts in anger, or frustrations people say oh the way you reacted this way so you're wrong too. He was wrong to abuse you, but you were wrong In how you reacted to your abuse. Like what? We should as a society stop telling people their in the wrong when they are reacting to their abusers and actually support victims for once, but that would require us collectively to address the misogyny in our society as a whole so slim chance there.

[@Oliviaandtrina]

I commented something similar without even seeing yours. As a previous victim, you know it when you see it. It's a PERFECT example of reactive abuse. And the timing is soo calculated. Sets her off, on camera, in front of everyone, at a huge event. Perfectly timed to make it seem like she's the crazy one, she's the issue, and "oh poor Ed has to put up with that?" Screw him dude. Fr. The victim blaming is unreal. I know that for someone who hasn't seen or experienced it, it's hard to understand. But still. That's all I can see here.

[@orkutfinance]

Just when you think Ed couldn't sink any lower. This is the worst he's ever been and I'm glad that Liz was-- at the least--standing up to him and putting him in his place.

[@Marie.marrriiieee]

2 days later Leo makes a video **LIZ AND ED CALLS IT BACK ON** she low key dealing with his ass cause she on tv and I’m sure she making money 💀💀

[@Aussie413]

He can't sink; He would get stuck in the drain.

[@annavictrix]

People, nothing is wrong with leaving a situation like that. When someone is escalating a tense situation, making it about themselves, especially if you’re drunk and don’t want to get heated in front of family? Don’t think you can’t ever walk away. In some contexts, it’s for the best.

[@elizablue8134]

Exactly! There was nothing wrong with her removing herself from the situation. If you know you're angry, then it's way more healthy to walk away than stick around and argue more. People need breaks. I would of done the same thing if I was at my Engagement party.

[@mismatchedsock1982]

Hey twinsie!

[@jennyjenga1929]

I think it's the way that she did it 😂😂😂 in a white dress, RUNNING, and slurring her words 😂

[@trinejensen1707]

How dare liz walk away from the phone while ed was blaming and gaslighting the 💩 out of her, poor ed…said no one ever 😂

[@Oliviaandtrina]

But you know that's what he wants them to say, or at least think 🤷‍♀️ that's the entire thing he's trying to get. "Look how crazy she is! I'm the victim here!". Pos abuser.

[@saskialolita]

Except Leo apparently….🤨

[@CHloE748]

I love Leo but I think he is too harsh on Liz compared to Ed sometimes. In this episode Liz was immature for sure, but almost all of it was in reaction to Ed being awful to her. She just got in an argument with someone and instead of consoling her and making her fell supported, he immediately accused her of something knowing she was already worked up and drunk. Him prying shouldn’t have happened at all, but ESPECIALLY at that moment. Her running away was the best case scenario honestly, KEEP RUNNING LIZ!! I liked Ken and Danes reaction much more, they were cheering Liz on for literally running away from Ed and it was hilarious

[@CJMGalaxy]

Yup, Ken and Dane had it right - A, they pointed out how staged so much of this probably is, and B, they were psyched for Liz to run (and impressed she was running like that barefoot). Expecting someone to talk things out rationally with Ed is completely misguided, because Ed's a manipulative, abusive man who cannot be wrong. RUN, GIRL

[@nightmaree_eyess]

This!!!!

[@tliyanage5705]

Leo please see this : as an abused woman, I want it seen please

[@tliyanage5705]

@@CJMGalaxy plus Ken's comment section had an update: the fight between the two women was a non-fight. It never went down that way. So what actually happened must be close to Liz being drunk and ed at some point asking that stupid question and Liz erupts with all the aftereffects of gaslighting. People really have no idea how your ability to think break downs with gaslighting. It really needs more awareness. Leo if you're down to researching gaslighting for a podcast ep (I'm sure a r/ exists), it'd be a great service.

[@punkbeluga5091]

From what I see I honestly don't think Liz was exactly immature, she just let out an immense amount of bottled up frustration from being gaslit all the time by Ed. Unfortunately Leo reacted exactly like Ed wanted, gaslighters act calm and frustrate you to a breaking point where you just scream and then you look like the crazy one

[@phothl]

Liz’s and Pred’s relationship is like Schrödinger’s cat in a sense where no one, including them, knows whether they are together or broken up until it’s scientifically measured by someone who cares enough to ask, which is usually TLC.

[@KhayJayArt]

Schrödinger's shitty relationship

[@matthewlujan844]

Bravo for that analogy . Just perfect, no joke.

[@myqueerplantfamily]

Liz and Pred 😭💀

[@shoepebblesquabble]

I love everything about this comment

[@sarahdixon6011]

Brilliant comment.

[@socialdistancingon8333]

The fact that Big Ed can't look around and see that he is celebrating with Liz at THEIR OWN engagement party (which makes him the winner in this scenario), is very, very telling. Dude, she's MARRYING YOU! But, instead, Big Ed chooses to act like the biggest loser and make assumptions about a past that is no longer relevant (anyone picking up Rose vibes?), means he deserves any and ALL L's he gets. His insecurity issues at his age will NEVER get better. Liz needs to run and never look back!

[@bostonmeadhorn4897]

He has no neck! How's he supposed to look around if you can't move your head?

[@socialdistancingon8333]

@@bostonmeadhorn4897 Big Ed seems to have figured it out, and Leo even explains how in this video.

[@bostonmeadhorn4897]

@@socialdistancingon8333 cuz NOBODY replies to comments before finishing a video 🤦

[@socialdistancingon8333]

@@bostonmeadhorn4897 lol. Not my problem...

[@calliejobe2919]

Exactly.

[@VaeMhairi]

Liz probably doesn't have a short fuse by default. Narcissistic abuse and not having your most basic needs fulfilled will do that to you. You end up resenting your partner more than you love them, but you're so caught in this toxicity that you can't break free either. It's a vicious cycle.

[@sadie_renae7860]

But the thing is, she tries to talk it out with him as we saw in the photoshoot with her friend. She tried to tell him her feelings and talk about how she felt that he wasn't teaching her or that she thought he was too focused on hitting on her friend. Ed, however, always dismissed her feelings, leaving Liz to feel like no matter what she says, it's going to be dismissed. Therefore, she bottles everything up inside

[@kellevichy]

And when things are bottled inside and you keep being pushed and pushed and pushed to your limits - eventually, you crack. Her out brust was a long time coming.

[@sadie_renae7860]

@@kellevichy exactly! She tries to communicate, but Ed keeps pushing her to her breaking point

[@Lavenderfairy1905]

Yep I totally agree... It's something called reactive abuse which is typically done by the personalities with dark triad traits... Narcissists are the ones who really use it to their advantage... Ed has some serious Narcissistic tendencies and Liz reacting in that way is no surprise to me.. Since they would've had many conversations like these behind the scenes behind closed doors, so Liz is right for acting that way... But the thing is that she needs to leave Ed and work on her own healing and loving herself and being strong for her daughter... Because her soul is getting crushed being in the same pattern of relationships with men... So she needs to really take a step back or a solo vacation to really self reflect and figure out what she needs to do alone.. Not under the influence of someone who doesn't even love her....

[@sadie_renae7860]

@@Lavenderfairy1905 fully, 100% agree with this

[@floatingcrispbag7842]

Hello fellow demi person XD Also totally agree with your assessment lol

[@trashpanda3544]

I think Ed has worn down Liz over time to the point that she believes she'll never have better than him and this is her last chance at love. Liz even says herself that Ed has been emotionally abusing her when she talked about how ed was telling her she needs to lose weight and how she can't go anywhere without his permission. She genuinely believes she can't do any better than Ed.

[@rells1da1great1]

This really comes off like leo doesn’t want any emotions to happen in a relationship ever. If you’re upset, you’re a bad person and childish for walking away to cool off before saying something wrong and if you’re chased down and forced into the confrontation, you’re expected to not say how you feel. Be quiet and think about everything no matter what’s happening

[@evgeniyaseminenko8594]

Been in a relationship like this, it is a nightmare. If you get upset even if the reason is valid everything becomes about how it is your fault for having emotions. Not a fan on Liz, but disagree completely with Leo's take on this

[@sleepyavii2484]

@@evgeniyaseminenko8594 yeah ive been silently arguing with him this entire video as someone whos been in a relationship like this

[@evgeniyaseminenko8594]

@@sleepyavii2484 I also weirdly feel proud of Liz for having a meltdown, it shows that deep inside she knows things that are done to her are not right. In tha relationship I ended up so deeply gaslit that it took a long time in therapy to even admit I wasn't the abuser.

[@SaltiestSalem]

i didnt take it that way you're gonna feel how you feel, but you should also have the respect for your partner and the respect for yourself to display and communicate those emotions amicably - "i'm really upset right now, give me some space, i need to cool off" a lesson ed and liz need to learn

[@rells1da1great1]

@@SaltiestSalem I totally understand that but if a tv crew is following you and shoving a camera in your face, your emotional space would definitely be different from the hindsight that everyone is saying you should do.

[@calliejobe2919]

She got upset because it’s an ENGAGEMENT PARTY. Of course Liz is offended. At this point…..he should not be questioning her loyalty. I would be mad too.

[@jenniferellingson5023]

Hopefully Liz will be strong enough to withstand the pattern to get back together

[@jessicamerriman2336]

She won't. She already sold her soul for TLC cash. I think now it's all been a major troll on we viewers.

[@kristi6274]

She posted them together on her ig the other day they are still together 🤦🏽‍♀️

[@jessicamerriman2336]

@@kristi6274 yeah, I'm done with her.

[@tiffanykim2773]

Idk she really wants love and maybe she thinks this is the best she's going to get.

[@teardropblue]

Give it a few more years

[@shawty7303]

It's sad to see that all Liz wants is love. You can tell by her marriages, her father not being there and her "need" of Ed. She needs to break it off and find happiness within herself. The only person I have sympathy for is her daughter. She doesn't need to be around this situation

[@HitsugiHime]

I think she needs to take time for herself and in the future maybe pursue someone else

[@shawty7303]

@@HitsugiHime I agree. Therapy, meditation and time for her kid

[@iannuccat]

this is the best comment

[@savage_optimist]

SHE HAS A DAUGHTER?!

[@shawty7303]

@@savage_optimist yeah. She briefly mentioned her in the first season of ed's single life. She shares custody with her 2nd husband. Idk why she hasn't brought her up at all this season which is weird

[@nicolaberry9550]

As soon as I heard about this engagement party drama I have been DYING to see Leo’s reaction!

[@jessicamerriman2336]

Same!

[@sleepthruyoalarm.]

same yo bahaha

[@AiirxGeordan]

I like how big Ed skipped the “who was that? What happened? What did they do?” And went straight to “did you used to date her?” Like huh 😂

[@nadya4681]

i think he accuses her of cheating a lot, and this time was one time too many for her

[@catlover2223]

Then he’s trying to convince her that she is the problem.

[@beth4928]

100% a manipulation and emotional abuse tactic.

[@speccysquaregolike9629]

I feel like people are forgetting that she was in abusive relationships, so the way Ed is treating her is what's "normal" for her. I think it's unfair that you called her childish for reacting the way she did, but that might just be me.

[@ghoulishtoad]

No its not just u i agree completely i had to watch my dad do shit ed does to my mom and she started to lose it naturally like anyone would and then je turns around and acts like shes the crazy unstable one. Genuinely triggering but im glad im not as easily triggered cause it did make me a bit angry cause i expect better of Leo. He seems like a nice guy but it seems hes a little naive when it comes to these situations

[@speccysquaregolike9629]

@@ghoulishtoad Yeah, it seems that way, unfortunately.

[@jenellelynn4551]

honestly, grandma's question about taking care of ed was like the most real question anyone has asked on this show. my dad is 15 years older than my mom, and she loves him but has cautioned me against marrying someone significantly older than me. she says she didn't feel the age difference when they were young, but as they got older and my dad's health declined more and more, and she took on the role of caregiver more and more... it's something she didn't think about and wasn't prepared to do. it's something you have to think seriously about if you're at all considering marrying someone much older.

[@seaurchin4522]

This honestly hurts as someone who has lived with long term emotional/psychological abuse. I am so disappointed in this take of this situation. I'm so confused how Leo could've interpreted it the way he did. We know Big Ed is abusive. Straight up. Liz might not be the greatest person, but no one deserves to be treated the way he treats her. Even if you don't know much about psychological/emotional abuse this is so obviously baiting, gaslighting, demeaning behavior. How Liz reacted was from pain and frustration as well as being under the influence at her own engagement party! This was in response to SEVERE and repeated emotional abuse. Reactive abuse is not abuse. To even compare their reactions is ignoring Ed's long documented history of abusing women and the very real pain that this kind of abuse causes.

[@tentative4289]

Ngl, I really needed to read that "Reactive abuse is not abuse." Took a deep breath. Thank you

[@mistyobannon3081]

His narcissism has never been more apparent than during this episode. It’s sad how Liz sees the manipulation, but still sticks around for more. People get sucked into these relationships, and don’t realize how deep they are until it’s too late. Liz is drowning, but thinks Ed is a hero every time he lets her up for air, right before he pushes her back below the water again. They’re both codependent and need serious therapy.

[@KirstenMarie_MS3]

Watching Ed and Liz's relationship dynamic takes away the shame of being 35 and single. They remind me why I decided not to date until I've managed to "clean my side of the street" before dragging someone else into my life.

[@kikijiki123ki]

I like how he’s trying to get her to come back to the party and was like “you ruined EVERYTHING” like dude she def ain’t coming back now

[@bella3775]

7:36 “I’m going to take care of her and love her for the rest of HER life” That was such a Freudian slip!! 🤣🤣

[@tiggynv214]

“Big Ed and Liz call off the engagement” And nobody was surprised

[@beth4928]

Tbh, it's very obvious Liz has been ground down by emotional harm Ed has inflicted on her. I can't stand when she's blamed for getting back with him, when it's a hallmark of the abuse cycle. She just wants love. I don't especially like or agree with her on certain things, but it's awful to see her feel so low.

[@Kurodesu96]

I think Leo was a bit harsh on Liz compared to Ed. Clearly her reaction is due to abuse and it’s completely fine to walk out of something if you think you’re not emotionally stable to confront it. Love you lots, Leo 💕✨

[@BunkyGrimbo]

"there's only two things that come out when you're that drunk: a little pee and the truth" Such incredible wisdom...

[@kenny42069]

Personally I think Liz was in the right. Sure she might have come across as emotional, but it's clear to me it's not coming out of nowhere. This is the culmination of being gaslit, controlled, second guessed and talked down to over a long period of time. I feel like we're missing a lot of the context here but I'd still say she was justified in blowing up at Ed. He immediately starts doubting her fidelity after a friend touches her arm. I'm willing to bet that's something she has to deal with a lot. Unfortunately it's not at all uncommon for people to withstand months or even years of emotional abuse in a relationship, only to be put down more when those suppressed emotions come out. Don't blame Liz for reaching a breaking point, Ed brought her to it and I think that's clear based on the way he talks to her and emotionally manipulates her. I'm praying that she moves on, she truly deserves better.

[@ilikeyoutube7224]

ALWAYS be open about things you feel weird about in a relationship! LEO "keep it to urself" is not good! If you have a healthy family, u feel safe, confident, loved, welcomed by them, and something in your relationship feels off, PLEASE be open with your friends/ family. I was stuck in a toxic relationship for YEARS and had i not covered everything up, my family might have encouraged me to leave sooner. General rule for any convo with an important person/ people, "the more uncomfortable it is to say, the more it needs to be said"

[@ghoulishtoad]

Exactly i reallt hated when he said that its basicslly just saying shut up about your abuse cause it makes everyone bummed out and i hste that shit

[@sarahfanpop]

Yes that's exactly what I think. I have no hate for leo and I do agree with some of the points made during his early videos but for this one, just some red flags. What should we keep a secret about something that makes you feel uncomfortable or abused in a relationship from family/friends? Its something like any type of abuse that happen and we know what happens when we don't consult to our loved ones. We will drown. So yeah. I agree with you on that

[@lurksmcgee]

He literally said he chose Liz over his daughter, if I were his daughter I would never speak to him again. There is no supporting the abandonment of a child you already ignored most of her childhood. It's fucked up.

[@jaysoncoster8783]

I love that Leo is sitting in the messiest room but yet every time he uses a popper he has to clean it up straight away every time. Love ya Leo 🤣😂🤣😂

[@imaDUCKIE11]

I believe the reason she is so reactive is because these are constant issues ed has with her

[@FillaneAmmisto]

So she's drunk and in an emotionally unstable state and nobody at her own party seems to care or go looking for her and instead let the camera crew film her in said state? Kinda odd

[@beth4928]

It made me sad for her, tbh :(

[@Jenna-in4br]

Yeah, that is kinda fucked, why did no one go after her?

[@madelineumsted3023]

I will still never understand how big ed dumped her 8 TIMES consecutively. Crazy

[@jessicamerriman2336]

Following the script.

[@pavllyn_]

And I will never understand how she got back with him after being ridiculously dumped 8 times

[@jessicamerriman2336]

@@pavllyn_ we are all either the victim of manufactured trolling by TLC or both those people need inpatient care in a mental facility.

[@rotisseriepossum]

I will never understand how he made his friend do it for him 8 times over text

[@roslynatdigsbydetailed9422]

So how much foolishness is she suppose to take from him? So you don’t think questioning somebody’s sexuality because you are insecure isn’t offensive? Or she is suppose to be ok with that part too? What!?

[@yilz123]

I was in a relationship like this, it’s all manipulation, it’s too emotional and stupid. Ed is the biggest emotional manipulatior. Just an absolutely horrid person. Liz you can do soooo much better

[@cr8zy_3ight]

Tbh to start accusing someone at questioning them at yall own engagement party is wild 😂😂

[@cosmicrae]

It's like the family Chantel

[@Cristina-Ortiz]

Somehow I timed Leo's first "woo!" just right because I caught my phone from falling off the kitchen counter at the same time

[@tiffanykim2773]

Idk if I'm necessarily starting to feel sorry for Liz but I am trying to take into account the shit she's been through with past relationships from what I keep seeing in various comments sections as well as what was mentioned in this same episode where they held their engagement party. It's like very very easy to make the same mistakes when you've been through the sort of such Liz has (I can relate in my own way with my own life experiences). I also know at least one person who dating a bad person and then decided to date someone else who is exactly the same according to them as well like wtf 😳 and now they have kids with that person and I'm like couldn't be me but also I sort of get it 🤔. Man the manipulation of Liz by Big Ed is strong and the fact that she's been through this before but still loves Ed like it makes me mad and sad but then I also get it because manipulation idk man 🤷🏽‍♀️.

[@shamstam]

I totally get it, like its rlly such a messed up situation bc of what she's been through. Her boundaries are all over the place and she's probably scared of being left alone again so she's having a hard time communicating her needs and ed isnt being validating to anything she says. always blame shifting. I really hope she is able to prioritize herself and leave, but i dont expect it with how she's been handling things so far. And ed..... is just too old to change. I expect nothing from him. his ego is so big and so fragile and not a bone in his body wants to change anything. He will probably always see himself as some sort of authority, wanting things to go his way

[@oulimatan5661]

I wouldn't fault Liz for walking away. She recognized what mode Ed was going into and she didn't want to deal with his abusive acts again. We remember that leaked phone call - in my opinion this is just a TV show showing emotional abuse for shits and gigs

[@AiraRia]

Man, I think they both aren't good people and toxic to one another, but every little piece of information I learn about Ed makes me think he is an actual abusive control freak. I am just praying that Liz runs, especially since she has a child too.

[@beth4928]

Yep, this. He fills up the bingo card of abuse tactics.

[@lupine.spirit161]

Psychology in Seattle has a really good professional assessment on this whole engagement thing. He shines light on why they act like they act

[@ivanovskameow999]

Love him, and as open-minded and empathetic as he tries to be, even he is looking fed-up and disgusted with Ed recently.

[@thedrunkronin4550]

Wow! Nobody DIDN'T see this coming....this was TOTALLY unexpected.

[@dumbass_on_a_daily2068]

Zoro you lost again?

[@speedydrury_1]

@@dumbass_on_a_daily2068 I think he's drunk🤣🤣🤣

[@saadskiredj7253]

Big Ed is my relief To my insecurities

[@Gchildwarrior]

Don't forget about Skippy!

[@delyseonduty]

Leo, look into "reactive abuse" if you're interested in learning more about Liz's reaction. I'd love to see a video on the topic. Edit: I mean to say I'd love to see you do a video on the topic.

[@electrajane]

I really hope liz can move past the idea that not all relationships are the same. She needs a break and a friend to show her the difference to such things.

[@bl_174]

I feel sorry for liz's daughter! God what that poor child must have to go through watching all this! There is only so much you can hide from your kids.

[@CelieCandy]

Do you remember the very first time we've seen Liz and how she acted? Me neither... it's amazing how a person could change drastically in months.

[@mikemapu]

I've had an awful day & but seeing this in my sub tab made me smile. Thank you, Leo.

[@MiracleMorris]

I hope tomorrow's better for you

[@rissthebee]

I hope today goes well for you!!

[@bowechosqualler]

Liz drunk running away is incredibly relatable 🤣 I irish goodbye people all the time, but just because my social battery has hit 0 and I want to go home hahaha. thankfully i normally drink at home now or am with friends who know my ridiculousness.

[@Ciela887]

"There's only two things that come out when you're that drunk: A little pee, and the truth." 😆😆😆😆😆

[@Jenn-ie5vf]

Apparently they did get the fight on film but the other people involved would not sign the document to have it aired so they had to act like it didn't get recorded

[@tay9902]

Lol my grandma and grandpa literally did separate for a couple of years when he was fresh out the army. Now they are still married, still yell at eachother, and are both 90-something.

[@tay9902]

Cool story bro

[@-tododeku-7511]

@@tay9902 did you reply to your self? 💀

[@TheGrossDemon]

Liz is so drunk that her subconscious desire to run came through lol. If only her sober self was able to stand behind what her drunk self said cuz for a second I had hope for her.

[@joceyno]

Why do I have a feeling Liz will smother Ed with a pillow? After watching the whole thing. This was either A. All for show or B. He asked her this stuff, because he knew she would freak, and she would look bad. I don’t trust him.

[@beth4928]

I mean, I'm not endorsing murder, but I wouldn't exactly blame her.

[@trinejensen1707]

I love how you made a party out of that whole disaster 🎉🥳😂 ❤️👏🏻

[@randomrhombeses4759]

Just imagining a Tiger with Big Ed’s face just makes me smile.

[@kristi6274]

😭 they are still together, she posted her ring and them holding hands the other day on Instagram

[@starkatattack-5533]

Leo, thanks for keeping it real in all your videos. I enjoy these way too much ♡

[@ononono7016]

Edd doesn't seem to accept that he has hurt Liz until she starts shouting and aggressively arguing. When she talks normally, he just ignores her

[@usagi32211]

I have a theory that TLC got the "fight" on tape, but it wasn't what Ed made it out to be, so they didn't show it to keep the drama going. The girlfriend of the gal that Liz supposedly fought with has posted on social media that it wasn't a fight, it was Liz misunderstanding a joke. They were already leaving, and Liz made a big show of telling them to leave.

[@clairefisher3132]

The missed high five guy who gave Ed a horn is his scooter salesman. My guess is he invited everyone he sees at Starbucks, McDonald’s, the liquor store or wherever he trolls around every day because he has no real friends.

[@Recovering_Perfectionist]

This is the first time ever writing a comment. but I just wanted to applaud you for all the work you’ve been doing. I know it must not been easy. But every time a video of yours pop up I get so excited. Your videos helped me through a really rough summer and for months were the reasons why I laughed. Congratulations on the podcast.🎉

[@yikesyourchunkyhostilityha2321]

(Random Rant) "Support is support and family is family" nah, if that family is harmful or harming themselves, I'm not gonna put myself in more harm for family. Nobody should have to go through that much, and if they're not gonna listen they'll have to learn alone or with less support until they realize the problem l. Family are still just people; if they're abusive or terrible, you run, your mental health shouldn't be ruined for them. That's not family. It's easy to say "support is support and family is family." When you have a good family, but others will literally go through so much unnessecary pain to the point they off themselves all because they want to be seen as the good daughter/son.

[@Crithosceleg]

Low contact/no contact with toxic families is completely valid!

[@MadAliceInWonderland]

Even if they had dated in the past that shouldn't matter. Like, dude, for one you saw them fighting, not making out or something lmao. And two, she's there at an engagement party for *you*, she's marrying *you*. The insecurities on this man are insane.

[@Jenna-in4br]

It's even more stupid when you remember he dated two other women as well after they broke up. One of them he was even talking about marriage with.

[@shirandawilliams]

Tlc didn't film it because they were spinning an untrue narrative the woman that got kicked out her gf told the actual story she was actually there with her gf when it happened

[@bobohobo7652]

Leo gaslighting his audience by repeating that Liz said her friend Alex has no neck. Even thought she merely pointed out that the ankle from which the photo was taken / the pose makes it appear like she has no neck in the picture. So she is actually critizing the photographer, not her friend. The day you understand that Leo will be the day you finally can have a girlfriend too. So it might be never

[@imaDUCKIE11]

I'm a simple woman, I see sixteenleo post, I click.

[@Ass_of_Amalek]

they met only a year and a half ago???? holy shit, I thought it took liz like three years to age those 10 years!

[@OhForScienceSake]

I've been watching an extremely upsetting court trail so I needed a laugh Thanks Leo, I can always count on you to make my day better ❤️

[@KhayJayArt]

*trial

[@OhForScienceSake]

@@KhayJayArt autocorrect strikes again

[@fallyneprinciotta9058]

Are u watching the parade trial? That shit is outta control and so infuriating to sit through as a viewer let alone being a victim..

[@OhForScienceSake]

@@fallyneprinciotta9058 yeah, it's so heartbreaking and then the pos "sovereign citizen" being the way he is just hurts and it was 12 hours of it today

[@JamesVillan]

this is not going to happen this relationship is a Meme at this point lol omg the way she talk's ... so annoYING!

[@damarisherrera6873]

Been waiting for this, lately I just watch KZbinrs to pass time but you actually make me laugh, love your videos and humor lol

[@FierceSurvior]

Ed is a narcissist and he practices reactive abuse. He purposely pokes her in a way he knows will solicit a response. She is reacting in such an emotional response in response to the narcissistic abuse he is doing to her. It will be difficult for her to leave due to the trauma bond that is there due to the abuse.

[@booleah6357]

Liz and Ed remind me of that South Park episodes where Cartman gets a girl and the parallel is scarily close to how Ed and Liz act.

[@RyanPancakes]

OMG you are right! Liz is totally becoming like Heidi 😂😂

[@BOOMADAM]

"Do they know about our breakups?" - Well, your relationship has been on TV for the last few years. If they didn't find out by watching it themselves, someone in Liz's family would've known and told them by now.

[@xyadrim2395]

5:51 “UUummh we’ve been making love-“ I felt my entire body *contort* into pain and suffering..

[@heccinBEEFY]

me: *searching for uplifting anxiety reducing videos* also me: *needing to catch up on 90 day fiancee drama with Leo*

[@melissalonla]

Between Liz’s immaturity and Ed’s insecurity, these two feel like those teenagers that break up and get back together constantly

[@jessicablair5610]

I can't even remember what I was watching twenty seconds ago, I've never clicked on a notification faster lol I love the big Ed saga.

[@007vix]

Gotta luv Leo. The only guy I watch that provides top notch comical takes on Ed and others and has more flowers in his scenery than I've had in my entire lifetime.

[@tammykelsey7877]

The happy, no high five guy is the dealer who sells Ed the Vespas. The horn is for Ed’s Vespa. 😂

[@tiffanykim2773]

I always feel like Leo likes Ed more than Ed and that is interesting. I'd also like to see Leo in a relationship instead of just watching him criticize this one. Like an experiment ya know.

[@invadernav3422]

You know, I wanna say I'm surprised. But looking at the absolute madness and turmoil that permeates every aspect of relationship, I really, truly am not. Oh dear.

[@Synthia17]

I was about to say that if he cared, he'd not want to put her in front of cameras in that state but man, that's the least of their problems...

[@Xen_IV]

Tbh I don’t see a future for Ed & Liz unless it includes more gaslighting and constant fighting. In a sad way, they remind me of my parents (minus the age gap) where they can’t talk about anything without someone blowing up on other and walking away, now they don’t speak to each other anymore because they only stuck together for their kids. They resent each other to the point my dad gets set off by the mention of her, and if that doesn’t convince you my mother had (drunkenly) confessed to having a thought of unaliving him. I hope for the best for Liz in this situation, she doesn’t deserve the bullshit Ed has been giving her, yes she has some issues herself but 90% of them are Ed. If he doesn’t mature up and work on himself Liz needs to leave him for good, it might hurt her ego but at least she won’t have to deal with a man child.

[@catlover2223]

Sorry to hear about that! I hope you’re doing ok after growing up around all that!

[@xMorganbrittnyx]

I've watched this episode recap on like 3 other channels but I LOVE each creators take on it and reaction to it so it still doesn't get old ❤️❤️❤️

[@nudgiebutters]

I can always count on your videos to boost my mood during what has become such a mentally draining a week. Truly appreciate you, Sixteenleo!

[@awareofmyself4564]

BLESS YOU LEO, IVE BEEN HOME SICK ALL DAY AND THIS IS JUST THE REMEDY AND COMFORT I NEED.

[@abbyelectric]

Hope you have a speedy recovery! :)

[@littlejourneyseverywhere]

Ed. Pro tip. As a lady who's been with ladies and guys there's also run away from partners before. When a woman starts to run from you, just let her go. Give her some freaking space because if she's running or even walking she needs the space. Or she's afraid of being murdered. Either way, she wants to be away from you so take the hint.

[@dhoryy6244]

I love your vids leo they make my day better ❤️

[@hollysmith2811]

YESSS LEO IS THE BEST

[@bowwcake2518]

he tots made my week more happy

[@krysia7403]

We all love him so much

[@ayeeeerin4999]

I’m semi early and half way through this and I’m so happy we finally get your take on this. You’re in my top 5 channels. So under rated man. Never stop!

[@AnaLongoriaXX]

Came here for the drama, stayed for Leo’s cute and wholesome “whoooo” ❤

[@bittervibez]

It’s a pretty well established stereotype people in California’s accent sound like their asking a question when their ending a sentence 😂

[@misskuni]

It's pretty well established that she talks like a fool on TV and that nobody in California actually talks like that.

[@Oliviaandtrina]

All I see here is reactive abuse from Liz. I know that if you haven't been through an emotionally abusive relationship, it's hard to understand what's happening. It doesn't justify her behavior at all. But he has beat her down(not physically that we know) so much, abused her for so long, manipulated and gaslit her, and she's snapping back. And perfectly timed, in front of others, he tries to come off as a calm rational one and trying to make her seem like she's *soooo* crazy. Like "wow guys look how out of control she is! Is everyone seeing how drunk and crazy she is? See what I have to put up with? She's the problem". I feel for her, I really do. He's a terrible person, abusive asshole. She's not in the right for this, but she is a victim.

[@patrickjohneby1306]

I was having a really tough day, and this upload made me feel a lot better. Thank you Leo

[@rakly3473]

I'm always so happy when I see you posted a new video! Thanks for all the laughs!