Considering a GAS or DIESEL Pickup? Watch this first!

[@GuretoSefirosu]

I own a 2017 F-250 6.7 PSD. It costs three times more for anything. I have all of my service done at my dealer. Prior to the diesel, I had a gasser. I went from around $100 for an oil change including filter and tire rotation to around $350. Every other change I need to do fuel filters as well, pushing the price to $500 or more. Diesel techs cost more if you have an issue. Granted this info is six years after your video was posted, but it is what it is.

[@TeeroyHammermill]

I'd say diesel is for a commercial application that'll generate enough revenue to pay for itself. For personal use including weekend towing, Gas trucks are far more financially feasible and easier to live with IMO.

[@ivanblanton081]

I'm a soldier stationed over in Italy.. I've been planning on getting a truck (I currently own a 2002 Tahoe) which brought me to this video.. I'm from Santa Fe Texas, where I lived until I turned 19, and used to work off Holcomb over in Houston Texas.. Seeing these streets gave me such nostalgia.. Thank you so much. Definitely going to subscribe and watch more videos. I love watching you drive around my favorite place in the world. Makes me feel so excited to get back.

[@peteponce9910]

Thanks for the service brotha

[@willwg6324]

Gracias por tu servicio y espero regreses pronto a casa

[@richardjohnson6053]

With today's gas it's hands down depends upon how deep your pockets. Diesel costs just more than 65% just for service. Plus diesel fuel, is 1.45 more a gallon, diesel parts are more, Def fluid is added expense. Plus you know the Def is gonna go out. I am a huge fan of diesel. Owned all 3 brands. Rams got me more mileage per vehicle. On this new truck I took the gmc 6.6 gasser over the other 2. I pull max loads of 30k and was very surprised at the torque. I tried all 3 gas, ford 7.3, ram 6.4 and gm 6.6. Ford was my second choice but the way a ford pulled and the reviews really had me worried. Ram was a monster but lacked the torque. So I opted for the 6.6 gmc. So far after 37k in 3 months really happy. Cattle loads with shifting weight it really holds the road. Set cruise at 70 mph and she will really hold her speed. Pulling 30k of iron I was only getting 9 mpg. But with 3500 lbs in bed my average is 19.4. My best empty on flat ground is 25.5. I just can't see owning a diesel anymore that's cost efficient. 😢

[@sputty08]

I live in CO, so pretty much everywhere I tow, I'm climbing/descending. I've always had trucks, but I got my first diesel last year. I have to say there is no comparison. I haven't personally towed with a new 7.3 gasser, but I've seen videos. While the gas engines can climb the passes out here (albeit slower), it's not comfortable. High rpm trips are tiring and irritating to passengers. The diesel is just more comfortable and confident. But the biggest plus for me is the downhill control. Having the exhaust brake is a huge advantage going down mountain roads. No gas engine that I've had has given me the control that a diesel does while towing. I've spent a ton of money upgrading my gas trucks to make them tow better, with marginal results. I don't have to that with a diesel. Gas mileage is about the same, I do my own maitenance and always used diesel oil in my gassers anyway. So the cost difference for me is negligible.

[@charleshenson4183]

You can definitely tow well with a gasser. When I owned my own wrecker service all my trucks were gassers & I towed with them all day every day.

[@robmoab3410]

I have a 2004 f250 with the 5.4 triton gas engine. Almost 180k miles. It still yanks my 20ft camper up hills no problem. Never had any issues with it. The reason I think it's done me so well for so long.... CHANGE YOUR OIL REGULARLY PEOPLE! A well maintained gas truck will last a long time.

[@johnhub9626]

Rob Moab - Original timing components? I have a 2004 as well, slight bit of timing noise. Good point about oil changes, every 5,000 for our engine/year.

[@bempey]

Its all about the oil! Any folks claiming the turbos don't last: wrong oil! The infamous "VW sludge problem" from years back? Idiots doing a $19.95 oil change instead of using the correct ($15/quart) approved oil. In a diesel, the motor oil is cooling the bearings of the turbos, including the one on the exhaust side that is glowing orange going up a hill. Cheap oil turns into goo and plugs the oil-passages, starves bearings for lubrication, and seizes engines. (my truck has a CAT 3208, so no turbo, but I've had several turbo-diesels). Its all about the oil. Heading out to get my A4 Quattro 2.0t changed now.

[@thejuiceisloose8703]

I one hundred percent agree with you. Gas motors are so easy to take care of in trucks. Minimal maintenance of you take care of it. 98 c2500 280,000 mikes and a 2011 f250 185,000 mikes. Both gas and both easy to take care of

[@calebniederhofer678]

Hey man not bashing your comment at all , but I guarantee your 5.4 pulling that trailer up mountains is downshifting , getting horrible mileage and struggling . We can agree to disagree , but I have experienced this and had both half ton gas , and diesels . The only half ton gas that really will tow descent in mountains and high elevation is the ecoboost turbos really help

[@BrianLampright913]

I’ve owned many gas and diesel trucks my newest purchase is a 1500 HEMI which drives like a dream compared to my 2005 Powerstroke. I always tell people who ask me “only buy a diesel if you absolutely need it, and 90% don’t need it”. It’s an image thing for most people.

[@daddymang9211]

He made more sense than any gas vs diesel video I have seen yet. He made it stupid simple. Good job! Watching this video helped me decide on which power train I am going to choose. 😎👍🏽

[@alpha2gproject783]

I love my diesels...owned a 7.3 IDI and Powerstroke. But here's something to consider. A fuel injector for a gasoline engine is maybe 30-80 bucks, a fuel pump is maybe 1-300 depending on make and model. An injector for the Powerstroke was 200, the lift pump was 50 (eBay), and the HPOP was no less than 500. Mind you that also doesn't factor in the expenses​ of having someone install it. A gas engine can mostly be serviced engine in frame and cab on. If say a CP3 pump goes bad on a new Powerstroke, or Duramax, you're looking at 500-1000 for the parts, but also about 500-1500 for the labor.

[@pacoboss6865]

So what is your choice?

[@daddymang9211]

@@pacoboss6865 I purchased a Gas job.

[@Harry-zz2oh]

I have an 08 Dodge with the Cummins diesel. Since I bought it, I've only put 73,000 miles on the odometer. The maintenance hasn't been too bad since I do my own oil and fluid changes but I think my next truck will be a gas powered one. I just don't drive my truck like I used to. When I was working, I would put 25,000 miles a year on the truck (and I was in a van pool going back & forth to work) but now I only drive around 3,000 miles a year since I'm retired. I'm not getting younger so doing the oil changes is getting to be more of a challenge.

[@wyominghorseman9172]

That was very well stated and spot on. We run diesels here because we tow horses, camp trailers and everything else in the mountains at high elevation. Our cities are few and small and hundreds of miles apart so city driving is nonexistent. Folks here don't seem to have the regen fouling problems I think because its 45 highway miles to a grocery store at 70MPH and you can let those ponies run.

[@redbull8661]

I've had 2 Ford 6.7 diesels. A 2012 and a 2015, I ran both just over a 100k and pulled a 24ft aluminum stock trailer pretty regularly and never had a single problem with either one.

[@truckingswe]

Finally some one that brought up resale value when comparing gas/diesel.

[@dzee7936]

I bought a 1999 Dodge RAM with the Cummins diesel in 1998 and it's now coming up on 200K miles, and I've found the maintenance very economical. Because of the volume of oil, oil and filter changes can be every 10K which is OK on gas engines these days with synthetic unless you tow a lot. Other than that, it's the usual tires, brakes, shocks, trans and dif fluids, and engine belt - same as you'd do on a gas truck). Because of its age, it predates DEF on pickups and until the last few years, I didn't have to smog it in California. No plugs to change, and it's not due for a rebuild for another 100K. I'm pretty sure if it had a V8, I would have started to see some problems by now even with good maintenance of the engine.

[@markreams3192]

An update to this video would be good. Fords new 7.3 l is a game changer in gasoline engine trucks. It’s a pushrod engine that makes the majority of its power in lower RPM range which makes it more than capable of towing a mid profile fifth wheel. Of course the latest generation power stroke puts out 1050 lb ft of torque which is mind blowing. It has a 0-60 time that’s as good as some sports cars. People are reporting as much as 20 mpg unloaded at highway speeds. Ford is definitely at the top of the heap for towing.

[@guyconnell2250]

I just traded a 2014 Ecodiesel for reasons you mentioned in this video. I had several CELs over the 30,000 miles I had it but warranty took care of them. It went off warranty at 5 years though. Each "software update" to "fix" the CEL resulted in a little less fuel mileage. Out of warranty I got real nervous about the prospect of all that EPA equipment (DPF, DEF with catalytic converter, EGR) failing and me having to pay out of pocket. I really liked how it pulled and how it rode. But, at the end, it was only maybe getting 24 mpg instead of the 27-28 it got when I got it at 27000 miles. To me 24 mpg does not warrant the potential increased cost of the EPA mandated hardware if it were to fail. So I got a gas pickup instead.

[@sivhuskycarrillo8395]

I bought a 99 7.3 to pull my 10,000 pound trailer, bought it with 360000 miles currently has 40000 and doing maintenance my self runs very smooth, it was worth every penny of the 7k I paid for it I love it. Being in CA I still be able to pass smog and drive it.

[@darrenchoinard5105]

I am neither pro diesel or gas but I bought a RAM 2500 gas truck for the following reasons * My truck is a daily driver. (15 minutes to work and 15 minutes home and in cold weather half of the year. ) * The gas truck cost less when you buy and worth less when you trade it. * Gas trucks warm up quicker in cold weather * Gas trucks are much easier to maintain than a modern diesel * There are gas pumps everywhere * No clogged Dpf or fuel burning regenerations * Gas trucks have equivalent fuel mileage when not towing which is most of the time for me * No sooted intake manifold or failed egr to repair after warranty * Modern gas engines will go as many miles with less expensive repairs than modern diesels * I tow a tag along travel trailer that weighs 8000 lbs. or less I do realize that the points I have made above may or may not be 100% accurate but they are why I decided to go gas for what it is worth. If I towed in excess of 10000 pounds every day and drove a lot more miles I would still consider a modern diesel truck. I would also buy a modern diesel if I had a lot more money because I do like them :-)

[@aaronkellar6583]

diesel engines get much much better milage

[@keith3025]

The head winds on that camper are deadly for your mileage , Brother I'm sorry to hear that , do you remember when diesel was $1.47 oh the good old days.

[@2CabrasLocas]

Dassd Schsdu my Dodge 5.9 diesel gets 18mpg empty, and my gm 5.3 half ton gets 18mpg empty. Combined mileage. How much closer does it need to be?

[@FastZrider]

Has nobody ever driven RAM trucks around? Gas vs diesel mpg when empty all depends on what truck you buy and RAM trucks certainly do better. Diesels do generally get better mileage empty. I can get low 20s in my 2500 diesel, and if you have an ecodiesel RAM it's easily upper 20s or 30mpg. I don't think any gas engine in a truck even comes close to that

[@erikkovacs3097]

The dodge is 2500lbs heavier. I've gotten 19mpg on a 5.3 but I was going 55mph, I did the same with a cummins and got 22mpg.

[@SirtubalotTX]

Unless you're towing serious weight in the mountains on a regular basis..gas will do you just fine. I love diesel but with all the emissions bullshit and upfront cost with newer trucks.. It's more trouble than it's worth. My.. 02.

[@davebona9592]

SirtubalotTX I agree 100% with you.

[@melrose9252]

SirtubalotTX Well said!

[@MetalMusicManiac]

OK sirt you are a newbie ultra low sulfer is required in all 50 states here, countries across the globe are just figuring it out

[@chevy4x466]

You are right. I bothers me that I want a diesel.

[@Bman01234]

Diesel or nothin

[@TravenatorXXX]

I feel that gas trucks are under rated, especially the Chevy 6.0. It is super reliable and has little to no issue towing 13000 pounds from my experience. Sure a diesel would do it better, but with the cost of a gaser you cant go wrong

[@RVFishingAdventures]

I currently own a 2007 Chevy 2500HD 6.0 gasser and I'm towing a 13,000lb +/- 5th wheel. This truck can handle it just fine. The biggest flaw that is forcing me to look for another truck for full time RVing is the 26gal tank. We get 6-7mpg towing which means if you fill up at 1/4 tank, you only get about 120 miles. This is ridiculous. Putting a *gas* tank in the bed of the truck is doable, but costs twice as much as a diesel tank and means I don't get a tuck box that I desperately need. All this means I've got to get something that's truly designed to tow. Sure, if I was towing around town I wouldn't even think twice about keeping this tuck. When you add up the GVWR, axle weights, and total GCVW you technically can tow 16,000 with this baby. But how far? LOL

[@Fordgroup00]

I added a (40) gal tank in the place of the spare tire 😉👍 on my F250 V10

[@jamesavery6671]

most companies are buying gas trucks even large ford 550 types with a 6.8 gasser because they don't want to deal with the headache that comes with diesel apparently. The gas 550 makes up 50 % of fords 550 sales. A company can not take that epa stuff off so they have issues

[@jeffanderson7256]

Ogre Dad how much does it cost you to fill up both of them tanks? Lol

[@Fordgroup00]

It is still the same amount as w/out it and having to hit every gas station. This way, I just make fewer gas station stops, giving me time to stop at better spots.

[@cwshults78]

I work on diesel engines everyday, I love them, but damn the parts are expensive, so my trucks are gas

[@rivirme]

What is your preference on brands for late model trucks? 1/2 ton and 3/4 ton. Thanks

[@hunkleberrymilldewbeespark3851]

That's what I've heard. They're awesome until you have to start fixing and then they wish they just bought a good ol' V8 gasser.

[@chrisreid3155]

This is the exact reason I’m switching to gas. So many things that can fail vs gas. Turbo failure is around $5000 for starters

[@hunkleberrymilldewbeespark3851]

@@chrisreid3155 a lot of gassers with turbos out there. I had a turbo go out and extended warranty covered it 100%, all I paid was 100 dollar deductible. That would have been like 3 grand, parts and labor. That's why if I'd be getting into a diesel, especially used, I'd cover that thing with as much warranty as possible. Bumper to bumper and extended mechanical... Some dealers out there actually have awesome warranties that cover used cars way better than mfg would cover new cars, as is in my case.

[@chrisreid3155]

@@hunkleberrymilldewbeespark3851 you’re right about a lot of gassers having turbos. Every type of engine configuration has its issues. For me, I’ve had 20 years of turbo diesels and I’m going old school this time. Gas , no turbo. I mentioned turbos and the gasser turbos are pricey as well. You just have a lot of extra stuff to break down with diesels. I had to replace a head gasket on a duramax. Can had to come off to do it! $9000 later wtf. And it only had 70,000 miles on it. Unacceptable

[@cash2.0]

I realize this video is about newer trucks but I have an old 12 valve Dodge Cummins. The newer trucks have complex emissions systems compared to mine which has a mechanical injection pump and no DPF or SCR systems. I can reach all the parts of the engine with no problem. It does not require a smog check because it is pre-1998. It is not suitable for a daily driver due to it's age. That frees up money for a nice daily driver gasser and my diesel beast for towing. I like it that way. Best of both worlds.

[@sterlinsmith1651]

I think this discussion should be hinged on longevity. I've had gas and diesel trucks. I've never received more that about 225,000 miles of sold use out of a gasoline truck. The engines or transmissions begin to fail - usually a nickle and dime thing at first, but ultimately, the increased RPMs cause a catastrophic failure. My last two trucks have been diesels. 445,000 out of the first one, that I gave to my son who drove it another 100.000+ miles before turning it into a mud truck. The transmission finally gave out, but after replacement - the 2004 durmax is still going! Second diesel truck is running perfectly at 155,000 miles and I've no reason to believe I won't get 400,000+ miles out of this one. Anyone who says a gasoline share the same longevity as a diesel, is not being honest. So the question should be "How long are you gonna keep your truck?" If you're a new truck guy every 2 or 3 years, buy gas, if not, buy diesel.

[@MrZerk815]

Sterlin Smith I don't disagree that diesels are more reliable in most situations but I think that mare comes down to the care you administer to you vehicle. I have a 2004 Ram 1500 with the 5.7l hemi it's nearly 14 years old at this point and the only thing I've had to replace this far is wheel bearing. No engine or transmission issues have ever reared their ugly heads.

[@erikkovacs3097]

You're lucky. Those years had an issue with the heads loosing their valve seats and destroying the pistons.

[@jonathanibrahim7838]

Those year models were also none for rear end issues. Had an 05 Daytona had to have it replaced twice and that’s with no towing

[@kiphenricksen4056]

I agree, my 1990 F350 is a terrible turf, but it's still reliable and runs dandy with 425,000. I paid 800 bucks for it a couple years ago and drive it no less than 50+ miles every day. 4wheel drive still works, doors open and close, heater gets warm and wipers wipe! Headlights are another story but all in all, its the best pickup I've ever owned.

[@keiths.deeznutz]

Amen! Diesel engines last 4 to 5 times and more, than gas engines. Diesel is a MAN’S truck! Not for city sissy’s.

[@reaganellis5398]

I own a pickup truck but I never use it to haul anything or put something in the bed I just Iike the way they look

[@Hi.Im.Levi.]

Ain’t nothin wrong with that hoss !

[@court2379]

Ready to sell it?

[@incopass]

I've owned (2) 1500 Hemi's and (1) 2500 Diesel. You forgot to mention two very important facts: 1) The 2500 Diesel has a full axle in the front and therefore has a much stiffer (bumpier) ride, very important for those who don't know, 2) You need to change your fuel filter every 15,000 miles or so. Never changed mine in my 2500, 5 years, 160K miles. Fuel injectors went and Stealer wanted $14K to replace. I ended up paying $7K plus a few more for the computer. It was worth fixing because of the residual value on the Cummins Diesel.

[@jc7435]

Dang so that’s just $21,000 in repairs alone! Ok it’s the 10,000 initial upcharge. $31,000 to have a diesel over gas?

[@BeanoNoir]

Depends on the use. If it's for a business, and the towing requirements aren't significant, the gas will always be the better option, because the maintenance costs are significantly less. What isn't mentioned is the fact that all modern diesels are cab removal for a large percentage of common issues at the 80,000 to 120,000 mile range. This increases the hours necessary for repair. 13.5 quarts is also significantly more oil than 8 quarts, and the requisite for two batteries instead of one. This adds up over time. An interesting note for those concerned about payload more so than towing, due to the chassis rating being an identical GVWR, the significantly lighter gas motor increases the payload rating of the truck as well. That's why your typical snow plow is a gasser. You can haul more de-icer or gravel, and cold starts are always a breeze (not that a modern diesel has much difficulty cold starting). If you tow, often and significant, diesel all day long. The maintenance costs even out with far better laden fuel economy. The best warranty you can have is regular maintenance.

[@erik.cowell1277]

I am about 6 months into owning a truck for the first time in my life. I came from a 2 door jeep wrangler. I had to use a trailer all the time to run my errands. Now, I finally have a truck and I can finally get along without a freaking flat-bed trailer. It's perfect for me. I use my truck bed on almost every day off I have it seems like being a new home owner

[@oldfatdude8505]

Old video but I appreciated the points made, especially the fact that a diesel has insane resale value vs. gas. My 2017 Ram 2500 Cummins, which I am currently "lightly" considering upgrading to a 2021 3500 has a trade in value right now that is higher than what I originally paid. Yes, my truck has ridiculously low miles (26L) but honestly, I never expected to see this type of resale value once I got away from Toyota (which has insane resale values on trucks but unfortunately maxes out at 1/2 ton in the US).

[@winstonkaltenbach6998]

DEF fluid, catalyst, DPF and EGR systems are all a big joke! I have 6.7 liter Cummins diesel that was a nightmare of trips to the shop for clogged sensors and saturated DPF filter etc.. The mileage sucked and it was a constant hassle with repair bills, it was so bad I was going to sell it and go back to a gas engine. In desperation, I finally bought a full delete kit and I am delighted with the results! The milage went up 6mpg on the highway, it pulls better than ever and I haven't put in the shop for over 70k miles. If you gave me a brand new diesel truck I would fully delete it on day 1 and save all the headaches. So the logic is you pollute 10% less but you burn 25% more fuel! Sounds like something Congress would come up with. If you are about to throw in towel on your diesel truck I recommend deleting it, you'll love the way it runs afterward. They may have improved but my diesel emission control system SUCKED, so its in the trash where it belongs!

[@rustynail10]

Winston Kaltenbach WELL SAID, makes more sense than cents.

[@skully720]

I’m so lucky I live in South Texas where they don’t check for emissions at inspection stations

[@mannyman1604]

@@skully720 🤫

[@pillcosby3949]

Yea I wish I could, but Colorado requires emissions every 2 years and has those machines that sit on the side or roads to test all the cars that go by

[@darangemaster1]

the modern diesel is the way to go as far as im concerned. i have a 2004 2500 ram with the 5.9 . it now has 180k on it and still runs like a top. it gets 19.5 mpg ave. and on the hwy @ 75 on trip gets 23 mpg. it has towed everything i have attempted with no issue that would include boats box trailers and RV trailers.

[@matthunting1162]

Have a 2011 F 350 cab and chassis drw with a 9' sc body 6.7 diesel , 125000 mi. Getting rid of it, the 3 separate emissions systems are too costly to repair and keep up with. Going to get a 2022 7.3 gasser.

[@mcinkyt]

The biggest farmer in the region always drove a gas, even when he hooked his duality to his 5th wheel and went from Nipawin Sk to Corpus every winter. He said a diesel wasn't worth the cost of investment

[@sterlingyoung88]

I own a fiat 500 and a 1997 7.3 dually and a Cherokee caged out on 37s. Doesn’t get better than that.

[@VanceManderson]

Is it an Abarth?

[@Tinnmann]

Can’t disagree

[@0xKanzen]

Good video! A lot of people do have issues with the exhaust systems on the diesel trucks when they are using them as their every day driver. I have a few buddies with the Cummins and they have issues when doing short trips or when they're not hauling with either the EGR, the DPF, or even the DEF system to include the injector. Cummins has both passive and active regens and it can become an issue when not using the truck for what it was "designed" for. Because of the diesel emission systems, and ONLY because of the diesel emission systems, I would recommend a gas heavy duty like the Hemi 6.4 if your truck will be primarily used as a daily driver.

[@travesmcclanahan3450]

In all Honesty. It's better to have it and not need it. Than to need it and not have it. Speaking from experience and why I own a Pickup Truck.

[@Milesco]

Are you talking about diesel engines, or pickup trucks in general?

[@travesmcclanahan3450]

Captain Quirk Pick Up Trucks in General. I'd honestly rather own a Diesel but I'm happy with my Truck.

[@mattjack4x4]

You can always rent a diesel truck.

[@bubz1876]

Traves McPunk Just like a gun! Lol

[@dancahill9122]

Dassd Schsdu What statement doesn't make sense and why.

[@Over_the_Hill_RV_Rookies]

Great summary. I have loved diesels ever since I was a kid growing up on our farm. Just loved the sound of the diesel engines in tractors compared to gas. Thus, I always wanted to own a diesel. My first one was in my 2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee with a 3 L diesel. I just loved that vehicle. (Recently gave it to our daughter).But as I traveled over the past couple years the cheapest thing to rent or pick up trucks. I was just amazed at the room I had in them. So I decided to buy a truck after driving Jeep GC’s for 25 years. I have always wanted a Cummins diesel and since I had the financial wherewithal to get it I bought a Ram 3500 Longhorn Ltd with a high output Cummins. I have not towed with it yet but I can definitely say it is the most comfortable vehicle I have driven on long trips. I do plan to purchase a gooseneck dump trailer and a fifth wheel RV, both of which this truck will handle easily. So I wholeheartedly agree with you; if you can afford it by the diesel. You won’t be disappointed!

[@hendo337]

I had a 2013 F250 CCLB 4x4 6.2, it was great. I would highly recommend it over the 6.7 unless you absolutely need one because of weight capacity or you run a extraenous amount of miles a year.

[@OpenAirAdventure]

Here are some numbers for you on my 2017 f250 4×4 , 6.2 , 373 , crew cab , 17" tires with camper package just in case there is someone that's in the market. Empty I'm getting 17 mpg highway. Loaded I'm getting 9 mpg highway. I have 2740 lbs payload. My fifthwheel comes in at 10,000 lbs loaded down and the pin weight is 1500 lbs. This combination is perfect for this truck because I'm 2500 lbs to the good and 1200 lbs of payload left over. Exact weight combined is 17,000 lbs total. I highly recommend this combination to anyone looking at gas engines.

[@thewalkindude7716]

Shackles, that's awesome. It sounds like you really did your research before making your truck purchase. I was the same. I tow very little, but I often approach 3,000 lbs payload so choosing the gas engine and shaving over 800lbs off of the weight of the truck was the right choice for me. The payload capacity on my 2017 F250 6.2L King Ranch is 2,813 lbs. The payload capacity on every diesel version of the same truck that I test drove was around 2,000 lbs. I'm not knocking the Powerstrokes at all. They're great trucks but the gas engine was the right choice for my needs and I saved around $9,000.

[@OpenAirAdventure]

Bad Karma Thanks I really love the truck . I ran a 2012 6.7 powerstroke and it was great up to 50,000 miles then the problems started. I don't need a diesel and knowing the great engine history on the 6.2 from our work trucks made it an easy decision for me. And the added payload like you said was a bonus. I do believe if you are above 12,000 lbs the diesel would be preferred.

[@dearmeat5386]

Shackles - I have the EXACT same set up as you but my mpg is ROUGH (12.8 overall, 14.4hwy not towing). I only have 2600 miles on it and was told that more break in will help that. How long or miles did it take you to reach that??

[@OpenAirAdventure]

Roman B I drive like an old lady. 50 mph with cruise 18 mpg 60 mph with cruise 17 mpg I just got the truck and put 400 miles on it the weekend. May be you have 410s or on the throttle to much.

[@dearmeat5386]

i get ya on the heavy foot but i have been trying to milk every mile i can by driving soft. Guess ill keep trying. Thanks and good luck

[@vonneilson]

I decided to go gas. After I ran the numbers for my needs, from only driving it 6k miles a year, to the higher cost of initial purchade of truck and higher cost of diesel ownership, I still come out ahead. No regrets

[@Houdinii1212]

easiest way to answer is if you have to ask you dont need it. to many diesel trucks wind up in shops cause they just go putt'n around town and only short trips the the grocery store and they dont like that. if your not going to tow over 5k lbs regularly you best be on the highway A LOT otherwise a 2500 with a 6.4 gasser is all your going to need. also if your not loaded down the extra stiffness in the springs your sacrificing ride quality unnecessarily.

[@OpenAirAdventure]

Houdinii1212 The ride is smoother on the 17s . My 2012 was a tank but my 17 is comfortable .

[@exothermal.sprocket]

Puttin' around short trips with a diesel is the worst idea. They never heat up enough and soot will fill everything called an intake.

[@namepending4744]

Currently restoring an 88 Chevy R30, it’s a gasser and as a 16 year old, a pickup with a 350 engine and a ten foot flatbed is all I’ll need

[@lainieymig8519]

Wow, I'm from Germany, living in the States now and that surprises me totally. I got my first Diesel in 1981 and was nearly always driving Diesel cars until 2012. Never ever heard of this Exhaust fluid before. And in Europe the Diesel cars usually have a much higher MPG than gas cars, also the engines live quite much longer. So all people in Germany who have to drive a lot use(d, because of this silly NOx thing at the moment) of course Diesel - saving a lot of money and getting much more torque. So, wow, completely different here. You always learn ;-)

[@adaboy4z]

When I buy a vehicle I keep it until the doors dont open and the wheels fall off! lol

[@adaboy4z]

pen mightygun no a lot people trade every few yrs. My uncle and a friend trade that often.

[@bigmacok]

Just enter through another door until none of the doors will open, then enter/exit through the window.

[@tonylama2012]

adaboy4z I do the same it feels good not have a payment

[@xavier3961]

Que The Next Episode. RIP Nate Dogg

[@edlingja1]

PRO HEN Yeah man, I know a guy who buys less than $1500 CAD, dumps $3K and drives hard for 3-5 years, sells it for $2000 and repeats. They aren't lemons either, just high miles and he does the work himself. Makes sense to me, but I'd rather not spend cash & just dive it into the ground.

[@chanes2898]

I have a 96 Cummins stick shift single cab with 800,000 miles I love it

[@cameron9643]

How many miles now?

[@grouchosays]

@@chanes2898 wow!!!!

[@itsrob2321]

Ford F-150 with a 5.0 is my favorite, but if I’m spending $70-80,000 it’s going to be on land, not a truck.

[@terrybarr4256]

Lots of good information in this video. I'm planning on buying a pickup truck that has the capacity to pull a 7,000lb to 8,000lb travel trailer. I'll be going with a diesel engine, as they are designed for the extra work. If anyone doesn't believe me; take a look at the 18 wheeler's engines. They are all diesels.

[@qodebrojames]

I do not tow and I own a diesel. Now, I do have every intention of towing either a 5th wheel or getting one of the in bed campers (my grandpa had one when I was younger and I always loved them because of that) But I bought a 2000 7.3 for a little under 4k (that's a god damn steal where I live in CA for a diesel pickup) but the catch is that its basically been neglected for about 16 years lol. after a little over a year, I've rebuilt the dana front axle - basically all moog parts, rebuilt the entire power steering and braking systems and am now cleaning up the fuel lines and rebuilding the turbo. As of right now, I'm still under 6,500 in total cost (even if barely) but have a truck that's ready to run for a very long time (i'd wager some people blow their car/truck up before I get close to replacing any of that again) I literally love diesels, it doesn't matter the manufacturer. I love the different sounds each diesel engine/turbo combinations produce and how each system is truly unique from one another (similar, but still very different) As long as you can do majority of the work/maintenance yourself, then the cost of owning a diesel is minuscule. Its all about having the space, tools and being able to search google for help lol

[@marksill8020]

As a commercial truck driver who also owns a diesel p/u, don't forget that you also should change the fuel filter when having your maintenance done. A lot of places that sell diesel don't filter their fuel that comes from the in ground tanks to the pumps. It's highly recommended that you have the fuel filter changed.

[@MarkSmith-zt2zl]

I don't know about the latest deisel trucks but in the northern climates owners should also consider if they have a place to plug in the block heater in the winter. My '05 likes some heat on sub 20 degree mornings for a good start.

[@Just-me233]

Mark Smith you are right my grandpa had a gmc crew cab turbo diesel truck in the winter without the plug in it was very hard get to start I rember taking alot time trying get it going when it did start omg it nocked very loud tell it warmed up it was a 97 year dully

[@skully720]

Some new ones don’t require you to plug in. We have a 2014 2500 duramax and it doesn’t have to be plugged in. Took it to Colorado in the winter and it started quickly in -10 degree weather.

[@g496r500t]

Carlos Salinas -10 is nothing

[@enjoylife7030]

Aside from choosing the diesel because you want it or need it, it doesn't make sense to spend more money than you have to on an asset that is going to depreciate. Spending the extra 9,000 on the front end so you can get an extra 7,000 on the back end does not add up mathematically. If you want or need the diesel then get it but its not an investment unless you have an opportunity to make money on the transaction.

[@knightwing4]

Enjoy Life You could put the truck to work for you. 7000 on the back end plus better fuel mileage and reliability while it's yours. That adds up too.

[@enjoylife7030]

Indeed. Mileage for me would be the issue. I calculated based on today's fuel prices and it would take me 10 years or more to make out in fuel costs. That is not counting the additional cost of maintenance and repairs. Like 13 quarts of oil vs 7 quarts of oil not to mention def fluid. I simply don't drive enough to make up the money in the first 10 years.

[@garfieldthomas8118]

Use it haul car's and freight commercially....there's the pay off.

[@davva360]

Where I am you will never make up for the cost of the engine in fuel costs because even though mpg is 10% better in the diesel, the fuel is at least 10% more expensive. There is no mpg advantage for a diesel in my location (Southern US)

[@travelguy78]

A diesel engine is far more efficient and there are more energy in one gallon of diesel than one gallon of gasoline About 20% more energy in one gallon.. So if you have two identical cars the fuel consumption should be about 30% less with a diesel.

[@jean-claudecullum3355]

My 97 f350 has gas 460. I've had it for 5yrs. It does pretty good on gas. Haven't had to do much to maintain it. It pulls strong. Wished it was a standard.

[@jameshenderson9830]

My gasoline F250 does more than fine hauling my motorcycles to the mountains, and my large items to the landfill. I get to use regular unleaded and have no issues. Diesels are a lot of fun with the torque but I would say most people don't really need them.

[@deelarry2137]

We have a 2007 duramax. 498500 miles. Original everything except 2 injectors and damage that could have been avoided.

[@MrJLHaney]

Wow!!! That’s a GOAL! Did you buy brand new off the lot?

[@deelarry2137]

@@MrJLHaney yes! Brand new. Just pulled a load of seed with it yesterday! Something like 506,000 miles now.

[@MrJLHaney]

@@deelarry2137 that’s incredible! I’ve got diesel fever but I’ve also got the fear of buying used... brand new is too much $$& for me. Would you say 07 is a good year for Duramax to look for a possible purchase??

[@deelarry2137]

@@MrJLHaney personal opinion, if you don't need a diesel, don't buy one. I'm a maintenance freak. I change transmission, transfer case, and differential fluids regularly. I feel like maintenance is key.

[@Alexander-fr1kk]

Trucks are as luxurious and comfortable as cars these days!!!

[@nilespeterclemens8328]

*more

[@mothman-jz8ug]

One thing left out: Diesel fuel costs more than gas. Many years ago when my dad switched from gas to diesel dump trucks, there was the advantage of twice the mileage along with fuel at half the cost of gasoline. Today, not only does diesel fuel cost more than gasoline, they have most, if not all, of the fuel mileage advantage. (Thank you, EPA.) Now, add the cost of DEF and the much larger purchase price. Diesel pickups may be "cool", but they certainly offer no economic advantage today.

[@SAggyPingas]

The only advantages I'd say the diesels have is the fact that they will outlive any gas engine and still create more torque than the gas engines do.

[@trikelyfe6090]

Cant tow 5k with a gasser.

[@SAggyPingas]

@@Hotdog_84 You're right in the fact that the new stuff especially in the exhaust systems hold them back and because of cheap manufacturing they break down. However, they still will last much longer regardless of how new it is.

[@nguyentuan1990]

Bought a 2003 f250 6.0 power stroke and I replaced oils cooler, egr, hpop, intercooler, radiator and water pump. All and all total was $12k and the truck has 128k miles on it. Pretty happy with it.

[@leemorales3884]

I like the power and torque you get out a diesel. I am a diesel mechanic and fully appreciate everything Diesel has to offer but I drive a Texas Edition F-150 4x4 with with the 5.0 TiVCT Coyote V8. It's a damn good reliable engine and I love my truck.

[@METALITHrevetments]

Another informative and awesome video. I drive a 2015 RAM 2500 Laramie Mega Cab. It has a 6.4 Liter Hemi gas engine and a 4.10 differential. I don't tow or haul anything with it...it's my daily driver and I love it. I do own other trucks for my business including some diesels. IMO, if you NEED a diesel you know it...you tow 12,000+ pound trailers all the time and there is no consideration of any gas engine. Some guys just want a Cummins, Powerstroke or Duramax because of the "cool factor" and they are cool. You cannot beat a diesel engine for what it's intended for: Towing.

[@METALITHrevetments]

You cannot beat the Mega Cab for interior space.

[@Newzchspy]

"You cannot beat a diesel engine for what it's intended for: Towing." This may be true in the truck and RV World, but as far as diesel cars are concerned, the primary focus is fuel mileage. I regularly see well over 50 MPG on the highway on my Cruze Diesel and the new 1.6 Whisper Diesel in a stick is averaging close to 60 MPG.

[@METALITHrevetments]

No argument...you are 100% correct. I was talking about truck diesels. I would point out some issues that I consider, if nothing else to be inconveniences involving diesel powered cars/trucks (if you don't NEED the diesel): Not every gas station carries diesel. This is particularly true in and around cities so you may have to look around for a filling station if you need diesel. DEF is a pain in the ass and an expense. Diesel is a mess if you get it on you and it stinks. Maintenance is costly. Your wife might fill your diesel vehicle with gasoline and then blame you for having bought a diesel powered car. If you live in a cold climate like me you had better not forget to plug that bitch in at night lest you're late for work in the morning.

[@FloridaBoyBushcraftSurvival]

I am a Ram guy and have a 2015 2500 Crew 4x2 with the 6.4L Hemi gas and 4.10 rear end, similar to your truck. Awesome pulling machine....I tow a 32' 5th wheel at about 9000 lbs and dont hardly know its back there...

[@METALITHrevetments]

Yeah, for sure. I've had 12,000 on the hitch and it pulled fine.

[@antomarkunovic]

Hahha I have a Fiat Diesel, no issue with trucks ! Love the torque of it, you can pretty much go up a mountain... we're talking JTD Engine, 1.9 with 8 valves. I used to hate diesel when I bought it, but if you don't mind it's louder idle and vibrations every now and then, no prob ! Also... no petrol can give me the mileage while having the same power output. Daily FTW !

[@gqfiend]

This man is unreasonably diplomatic!!!! Make somebody mad! Do it!

[@hamyncheese]

KZbin normally keeps me in a constant state of Rage. This channel needs to be de-platformed!

[@blaineguertin2857]

Good review,,,a few things to think about. And up here in Calgary Alberta and area I would say when you look at commuter vehicles used and if you have a look at parking lots in downtown, the half ton crewcab takes up at least 60 percent. And a very high percentage of households have a pickups from half tons to one tons. A good mix of Gas and diesels, being used for everything. The pick up is the prime choice for all driving needs up here.

[@andyclemente4205]

Pretty good video 👍. As a a diesel truck owner "(2016 ram 2500 ) I agree with what you're saying. Diesel is not for everyone. It all goes down to what you need . That's my opinion

[@doctor41baller]

This is exactly what I've been debating. I can't get past the $800 or so note vs a $600 or so note. I can afford both, but that 800 is just a ton to me. I look at blue book value or vehicles 6 yrs older than what I'm looking at and your right. On some Diesel I'm only losing maybe 6000-8000. On the gas trucks I'm looking at I'm losing 20000 and more on the recoup. Not sure what to do. I can always use more money and I don't really tow, but also what's the better investment (I know neither, but of the two).... Basically I'm looking at a Tundra and a 2500 Denali

[@gsxrgeorge00]

KissMyAxe I bought a 2013 Chevy 2500 diesel for 52,000 and sold it in dec 17 for 48k. Then got a brand new Denali 3500 for 55,000. I always buy in dec when new models drive the prices down.

[@doctor41baller]

gsxrgeorge00 wow.thats a great deal.on a new Denali. My budget is under 50k and no older than a 2015. I found 1 with my acceptable mileage and asking under 50k with ttl it put it right under 55k. I asked for drive out at their asking price....it was a no go. Made me.no counter offer. I mean damn ya know...that was a 2016 stock Denali. There are good deal, but no one will give a great deal. I may try end of the year like.you. I'm in no rush

[@trkn5681]

Doesn't matter what you buy. The first time you fart in it, the 'new car smell' is gone forever.

[@Bafalken85]

@Trkn56 😂

[@cwoolfork5974]

OMG!!!! ROFL!!! Well said!!!....

[@davidmcclellan2786]

That's what happened to my truck.

[@jackbridges1237]

Trkn56 Rofl

[@MrPbip]

Trkn56 along with the value of it

[@jasonhess834]

Diesel for hauling longer trips. Gas for local hauling. Simple...

[@nmelkhunter1]

Don't forget altitude and mountain passes. Anything above 7000', diesel all day long.

[@knottide64]

The answer is simply in a few questions. How much weight do you need to tow; how many miles do you drive,; and do you care about resale. If you tow heavy weight, drive a ton of miles, and need better resale value, diesel is a must. If not, gas is a viable option.

[@jasonbrown7258]

I'm 41 n I still have the 87 f150 I bought when I was 19. Still runs. But Michigan roads sure did a number on it over the years..just bought a 99 power stroke. Rust free low miles. I plan to keep this one for ever to. I'd rather spend more money up front n get something better whenever possible. N yes I do all the work my self whenever possible.

[@bobbyknight1970]

Gas powered vehicles are so much smoother and quieter. Also I love the quick response/high RPM from a gas powered vehicle.

[@JohnDoe-pf2ps]

my 2001 dodge cummins 21 mpg unloaded about 15 or 16 loaded cruising steady

[@davids.9834]

The real question is........ should you buy a $50,000 truck. NO!!! if you make under $100,000... you cant afford it. Prices on trucks has gotten ridiculous I can not believe there are so many financially irresponsible people who live in a trailer park but own a $50,000 truck.

[@optimuscrime608]

david s. I make 70k a year and afford my 50k truck easily...

[@bngr_bngr]

You only live once.

[@fenderbender6826]

Well its their money they spend it how they like, I cant believe how many people judge someone for owing a expensive vehicle and living in a crappy home, for all they know they might have a large enough savings account with the amount to buy a mansion

[@jamesjarmon7383]

There's a difference in a truck you pay for and a truck that pays you. You buy a 50k dollar F-150, and you have a truck you pay for. But If you buy a 70k dollar F-250, or F-350, you have a truck that pays you. An F-150 is a passenger car with a cargo bed. A F-250/350 is a money making machine if you use it correctly. Whether hauling lumber home from the hardware store, or delivering new RVs to dealer, used for what there intended for, they will put money in your pocket.

[@dontworrybehappy8080]

Don't buy new. Buy certified almost new.

[@AlmashyD]

Good comparison for truck engine types and preferences. I understand the value of a diesel for it's torque for towing. Having had several gas engine trucks, my personal preference is a gas engine, cost of fuel is a big deal when using one for a daily use vehicle, I have a camper I tow once or twice a year for a vacation, maybe 200 to 300 miles tip, not many mountains between me and Myrtle Beach. If I had a farm or business where I was needing it as a tow vehicle nearly daily, I could justify a diesel for me. I put 25k miles a year on my daily driver normally so that's a lot of savings fuel wise, also upkeep wise. My neighbor and also my son in law have diesel Fords, One spends an average of 2000 bucks a year keeping his 6.0 on the road. my son in laws 6.7 has been eating a lot of his bank account so far repairing leaks and pumps...it was 2 years old when he bought it..wow... and the Chevy Duramax, I've heard horror stories about replacing injectors costing 5 grand...so yeah, I'm all for folks having their choice but, consider all the costs, and buying new is probably the best route, a warranty can be a great thing. Great video with a lot of food for thought. I enjoy all of your vids. Thank you..

[@aaaaaaaaaaaa265]

I had a ram turbo diesel 2009ish and i got 630 miles(on highway) and 500 miles(in the city) on a single tank, (was chipped) but that is way more than any gas truck will get. Plus it still had power so no compromises. Only costed 16 grand to buy, its well worth the price if you ask me, and no DEF stuff, it would roll coal if you put your foot down.

[@Zezims]

I just realized how many commenters don't watch the video first..

[@jaxsonbrown6190]

Back Seat Garage amen 🙏

[@Bubbles99718]

I do that sometimes. 50/50 on the regret level. :)

[@shanetucker9032]

Yeah no kidding

[@dufus2273]

too windy

[@Newzchspy]

This was a conundrum I faced when buying a diesel v. gas car. Sure, i didn't have to deal with towing or hauling issues, BUT I chose the diesel for many of the reason you would a diesel pickup. My primary reason was fuel efficiency , reliability and the fact that diesel here is about 25 cents less per gallon than regular gas. Its nice to have near 300 fl/lb of torque versus about 180 for the gasser. Adding DEF to the tank in trunk is only required about every 6 K miles and ONLY having to fill up with diesel about every two weeks is a bonus. I am averaging over 50 MPG highway and combined city/highway am at 46.5 on the DIC. It was a win/win for me to get the diesel car over the gasser. Avg gas mileage on gas car is closer to 35 MPG combined and about 38-40 highway.

[@markm2302]

Newzchspy what vehicle did you buy?

[@skully720]

Completely agree. I live in South Texas where the roads are long and straight and my next vehicle will be a diesel.

[@elizabethvaughn5694]

My husband: talking about how he wants to sup up my 7.3 power stroke Me: literally just using it for trips to the grocery store...

[@jburritt426]

We went with diesel but did a lot of research. No DPF. We bought a 2007 GMC 4x4, quad cab, long bed. Only 40,000 miles on it too. This truck is beautiful too. We found a pearl among trucks. Tows like a champ too

[@gop4usa12]

I have an F350 drw gasser. I know its highly unusual, but I only need the drw option for payload, not to tow. What I like about the gas engine is I have more fuel stop options, I have none of that exhaust cleaning annoyance, and the engine compartment isn't cluttered. I figure after 20 years of ownership, whether gas or diesel, it's going to be old junk eiter way.

[@scottehlert5091]

I've been in the market for a new truck for a few months now. Chevy just looks aged. I like the Ford, but again-just looks the same year after year. I've come to really like the tough, aggressive look of the new Ram 2500. Dodge has really done a good job with the design. The Laramie package is a great bang for your buck too. Definitely like the ugraded Alpine System. I've NEVER owned a diesel. I am just having a tough time paying the extra $8,000-$9,000 for it. I like the idea of getting many more options with the Hemi Heavy Duty 6.4 Gas vs a "Stripped down" or should I say "less Optioned" diesel for the same price. That's a lot of money to spend on options. I hear what you say about the diesel holding it's value more, but I think I will enjoy the 8,000-$9,000 ( or $12k as you say ) worth of options for all the years I will be driving the truck.

[@flanateurist]

I'm getting about 20% or better mileage with my 2018 Silverado 3500 dually with the Duramax over what I got with my 2016 Silverado 2500 with the 6.0 gasser. Was only getting around 10 - 12 with regular gas and about 9 with E-85. Am very happy with the diesel. Have also had a Jeep Liberty with the Italian diesel and a Touareg with the diesel. Other than having to plug them in during the cold weather up in the Northeast, I think they're so much better.

[@brucec43]

Big disagreement on the final advice to go diesel. Diesel Colorados and Rams have been pretty problematic. On big HD trucks they're more proven. And a gas HD truck will get significantly worse fuel economy than diesel if driven with any spirit at all. Diesels will be more sluggish, less "fun to drive", and so for low mile unladen drivers I would go with gas. Resale is already fantastic on Toyota, GM, and Fords if you simply keep it un-dented and low miles and sell it before the powertrain warranty expires. (and beyond for Toyota). The fuel cost savings vs initial cost takes about 3-4 years to break even, more in some cases. However, the diesel will return most or all of that additional cost at resale, so it is a net cheaper vehicle to run, less additional maintenance. Basically, it's a wash. Go with what you like. And for most drivers who have real "manly" jobs and don't need to pretend, gas is more rewarding to drive. And please guys, go light duty unless you actually haul and tow really heavy loads. It's ridiculous to see some jacked up HD used to commute and hit Costco. It will ride roughly, steer less precisely, be noiser in some versions, and have a higher center of gravity so it handles like dog squeeze.

[@MW-jj1rn]

Having owned 3 gas trucks 2001/05 F150/2008Tundra and 2 diesels 2015 Chevy 2500 now 2021 F250.. Towing or not, I’d buy Diesel over a gasser and 4x4. I always buy extended warranty too. The diesel trucks have better fuel economy towing or not. The diesel trucks costs more but hold value. Agree with you.

[@jimmyduncan7650]

My wife has a economical Fiat 500 for work and it's good for that but nothing else so I have a 14 F-150 STX 5.0 that knows how to get to Lowe's by itself. Last year I had a tandem axel car hauler pro built with c channel etc and hauled a car from AZ to MO. The truck impressed me with it's ease of towing and my diesel dreams went away. I don't know how the truck will perform with higher mileage, 22k now, but for now it's more than enough. Recently I started looking at Stewart and Stevenson LMTV ex military trucks as spending $10k on that and keeping the F-150 nice makes more sense than spending bank on a new Ford diesel. All the best to you out there.

[@atomicdeath10]

diesel, but only a used one. too much extra garbage on new ones.

[@dr.fishing5740]

Ole 7.3, 5.9 Cummins, or 2007 and newer Dmax

[@kmca1495]

Dr. Fishing. 1st gen cummins

[@noearanda7547]

👍

[@LAKERSRISE]

What about a 2011?

[@MT-vw6pf]

@Kaden Hauge why 07 and older? I heard the new 6.7 were nice? Fwiw im looking at older one now anyway

[@bunyard69]

My 7.3l runs as strong as the day I bought it back in 1999 had to replace the transmission at 350k . Always towing an RV or cattle trailer

[@dudedude7998]

I just bought a 300k miles 02 Ford for less than 2k. wish me luck.

[@crowbrocaw]

Is the truck still going 4 months later?

[@youvids9820]

lol you ouutaa luck already

[@rebellion241]

Well how’s it holding up?

[@Jbennyho]

Good info. I think there is some important information not mentioned, however. Most importantly the increased cost of the LOF service whenever the fuel and water filters are required, and the increasing occurrence of Diesel injection pump failures. Range on a tank of fuel is a definite plus for a Diesel over a gas truck due to the small increase in mpg.

[@moses1142]

I agree with u 200% on owning what ever u want. I bought my dream truck “Raptor”. 99% of people stare in awl but u get that 1% that look at all the negativity to why I bought a truck I will never fully utilize!!

[@iEntombHD]

I can’t decide if I wanna get an older diesel or a newer gas price for right around the same initial price

[@sonictech1000]

I'm still skeptical that the resale value on modern diesels will be what it was in the past. I don't think people are going to want to take the risks associated with buying an out of warranty diesel infested with this expensive and temperamental emissions systems.

[@wildbill23c]

I know I wouldn't want a newer diesel. Wouldn't mind a 5.9L Cummins or a 7.3L Powerstroke but wouldn't touch the newer ones.

[@smittysmith6576]

2018Frontie Nissan trucks

[@dufus2273]

and every year, Ford has a new experimental engine. Haven't found a good one yet. the 6.0 was a nitemare.

[@67L48]

@@dufus2273 Ford introduced the 6.7 Power Stroke in 2010 for the 2011 model year. It's now 2019 and that's still the current engine. But, sure, a new experimental engine every year.

[@Bouzoukiellas]

67L48 he can’t even spell nightmare

[@MrWhitelightning73]

I just LOVE that whistling sound that diesels make. Is that vain 🙁

[@tylerbozorth5491]

I dont think so, I love the engine sound of diesels, it just sounds clean

[@hunkleberrymilldewbeespark3851]

I'm a sucker for the turbo whine and the smell of diesel exhaust. That second one may be a little weird. Lmao

[@xon2013]

@@tylerbozorth5491 the whistling isn't from the diesel engine. It's from the turbo.

[@HVYBOY]

When I was 16 I got a single cab 2003 dmax. Didn’t need a truck but all the dudes in my family did for their line of work so naturally I wanted one. Well 11 years later I’ve never not had a truck. The most versatile vehicle around. I own a boat yes, but The point is I didn’t buy trucks for any other reason other than I wanted one.

[@eljefe3497]

I’m new to this channel but enjoy the commentary. It’s pretty spot on. I have had both gas and diesel heavy duty trucks and it all depends on what you use it for. You could sway the discussion either way if you really wanted to. Nice job

[@dennishinckley6326]

Once I got a diesel I never went back to gas.

[@trikelyfe6090]

Tell me more.. I'm considering "the switch "

[@heywatsup671]

Marty McFly just bought an 05 Duramax. Would never buy a gasser. Buy pre emissions

[@bg5561742]

I have a duramax for me been having me one since 2002 and a half ton with the 6.2 for the wife

[@TILLEYJS]

Bought an 05 Chevy 2500 Duramax. Got 248,000 miles on it. Minimal rust. Tow fifth wheel toy haulers all over America for work. Probably got 60-80k miles towing. Runs like a tank still. Love my diesel. Won't get rid of truck until wheels fall off.

[@GRIFF77418]

my first car was my hand me down minivan and I was surprised. those things can carry a lot. many times as much or more than a truck depending on how youorganize

[@schylerjohnson9216]

No

[@balzarini51]

I just feel like you can buy a lot of gasoline for 12 grand.

[@exothermal.sprocket]

So spend a lot more up front to keep more later? Funny logic.

[@ryanns1]

I just keep replacing the motor and it's a new truck all over again.

[@rodbuilder3657]

Ain't that the truth? I have a 75 gallon auxiliary tank in my 2011 Chevy 2500HD, so i can carry 110 gallons. It's nice to be able to buy gas wherever it's the cheapest.

[@Encourageable]

Lifted_Above Pay $1 now get 50 cents back later vs pay $2 now get $1 back later - I guess I’m missing the point of how is that funny logic. If you’re worried about how it hurts your pocketbook to pay more now then it just means you can’t afford it. Same with houses - everyone has an initial price line they can’t cross.

[@6h471]

You betcha! I wouldn't own a diesel pickup if they were paying me to haul diesel fuel away. Too much money for too little benefit. Longevity?? Not from what I've seen.

[@bigtrucklittlerv7969]

There is a place for 3/4 ton diesel trucks in the towing environment. It's in "effortless towing" of travel trailers in the 30-34' range. Three quarter ton trucks have the payload to manage tongue weights and adequate (not excessive) cargo when hitched to travel trailers in this size range. They are ideal to "fill the gap" between gas engines towing large trailers and diesel engines which make towing in that weight range much easier. Three quarter ton trucks diesel trucks don't typically have the payload for anything but the smallest (under 31') fifth wheels. While there are some "base model trucks" with more payload than the "typical buyer's optioned trucks" they tend to be the commercial models with vinyl seats, hand crank windows, few options and the largest payloads. Once you start adding leather, heated/cooled seats, carpet, electric windows, electric mirrors and all the "luxury options" the payload takes a significant "nose dive"..... Most 3/4 ton diesel trucks are "ideally matched" to medium large travel trailers, but not to anything but the smallest fifth wheels. Because of the limited payload, they are limited in the fifth wheel arena. If you have a short bed truck, you may be faced with the need for a sliding hitch. That's something I haven't found is necessary, but my Ford bed is slightly longer than the RAM bed. The extra 5 or 6 inches makes a significant difference in clearing the back of the cab during turns. If you do find you need a sliding hitch, you can expect to add an extra 100 pounds to the hitch weight, something that will compound your already critical lack of payload with almost any fifth wheel, even the smallest, "half ton" units.

[@buckhorncortez]

A lot of the choice depends upon where you drive the truck. I live in the SW U.S. and wouldn't drive a gas engine. Try driving over Wolf Creek Pass or the uphill haul on NV 68 out of Laughlin, NV and then I-40 out of Kingman, AZ. The high rev drone and constant shifting of a gas engine will convince you to pay the extra dollars for the diesel. The emphasis seems to be towing. I'm here to tell you that the wind load on a truck camper is every bit the load as towing. The diesels do it with power to spare making a far more pleasant ride. I've owned six diesel pickups over the past 30 years and wouldn't buy a gas engine in a 3/4-ton truck.

[@effinchad]

Cmon. The one guilty pleasure reason some spend on diesels is to simply be macho, run loud, rev the exhausts at cars' open windows. Be honest. You know who you are.

[@tehpanuychikon168]

effinchad LOL Yeah

[@davids7476]

I like wrapping a chain around problem neighbors houses and pulling them off their foundations.

[@richardbrown8184]

@@davids7476 I like using my Ram 2500 Cummins to pull my son-in-law's Ford to the shop, or get him out of the mud.

[@19garyk52]

Or I could take that 8 to 12 grand and put it in the bank and use that as part of my next down payment on another truck. Personally I think it's foolish to buy a diesel as a grocery getter.

[@Coltin88]

but if you have the money to buy a diesel truck and groceries then go ahead lol

[@MrErikw26]

Doubly so if it's a new diesel. If it isn't making you money, it isn't worth owning.

[@SupportThe0ppositeNPC]

I still dont understand these guys buying diesels for daily driving. Its like they just like to hear the turbo spool lol

[@xevnoc]

It's pretty foolish to use a truck as a grocery getter. A minivan would be a better fit for the mission of 99% of folks out there.

[@Codmancollects]

Guys I'd love to buy a diesel truck for a daily vehicle but I will tell u this I'd hold on to that sob for 20yrs plus because the mileage it will last

[@michaelkremer6729]

Love diesels but I tow and I'm partial. great information as always whether you like gas or diesel keep them coming.

[@ebinary]

You forgot that diesels actually have lower payload ratings compared to the identical gas engine because that engine/transmission combination weighs a lot more and it's on the same tires and axles. This means my 2500HD Duramax 4x4 has only 1700lbs of capacity for a slide in camper, which limits me to a handful of slide-ins. Just good to know.

[@johnbowhunter7676]

I just traded in my diesel f250 that was nearing the end of its 5yr 120k mile warranty for a chevy 1500 5.3 about 6 months ago and it was the best thing to do. I never saw a $100 diesel oil change you spoke of, all my local dealers want $189. Diesel is great for pulling, but keep your check book nearby, it was costly for me to own with a warranty. Never again unless I hit the lottery and money is no object.