Bike Headset Bearing Types, Identification, Compatibility, and Specification Guide

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JohnTheBikeGuy

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@audiosabre
@audiosabre 5 жыл бұрын
You're an absolute legend. I've gone from confusion, to knowing the terminology and exact standards/parts I need to fit my new fork. Bookmarked for future reference.
@UKViking
@UKViking 4 жыл бұрын
After many difficult months of not understanding my headset, I found this video. My pain is gone.
@bowleggedbear
@bowleggedbear 4 жыл бұрын
This was so very helpful. Thank you. The voice distortion played out like a story. You're obviously sharing secret occult bike knowledge, and have to disguise your voice for the safety of you and your family. It's not easy being a bicycle heretic, freeing the masses. Thanks again.
@2hiperkemanci
@2hiperkemanci 5 жыл бұрын
the most informative video about headsets I have ever seen on KZbin.
@abelwesson3767
@abelwesson3767 3 жыл бұрын
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@remyalvin6603
@remyalvin6603 3 жыл бұрын
@Abel Wesson instablaster =)
@abelwesson3767
@abelwesson3767 3 жыл бұрын
@Remy Alvin Thanks so much for your reply. I found the site thru google and Im trying it out now. Seems to take a while so I will get back to you later when my account password hopefully is recovered.
@abelwesson3767
@abelwesson3767 3 жыл бұрын
@Remy Alvin It worked and I now got access to my account again. I am so happy:D Thank you so much, you saved my ass :D
@remyalvin6603
@remyalvin6603 3 жыл бұрын
@Abel Wesson No problem =)
@williamensign1408
@williamensign1408 5 жыл бұрын
One of the most, if not the most comprehensive video about bike components ever. Thanks.
@chrisprice3493
@chrisprice3493 3 жыл бұрын
This might be 4 Years old, but the best video for information on headsets. Cheers John.
@grahamyoung2261
@grahamyoung2261 11 ай бұрын
very clear, very professional, wee explained, no wise cracks every 30 seconds.... perfect good channel
@jeffs9875
@jeffs9875 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for taking the time to make this video! When I bought my Mountain Bike they tell you nothing about this. Now that I am up grading my front shocks I was again'st a wall trying to figure it all out. You laid it all out and it so simple.
@RidesInforests
@RidesInforests 6 жыл бұрын
John you are amazing. This stuff has been so helpfull. Just started at a pro bike shop in uk and my head is swimming.
@jiw71
@jiw71 7 жыл бұрын
thank you! you just taught an old dog new tricks. Very detailed, informative and easily understood!
@peterdon3596
@peterdon3596 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely excellent video. Great to have the index at the start. Data much appreciated.
@florinsgondea6124
@florinsgondea6124 4 жыл бұрын
Extremely informational and detailed video. Please make a video regarding the crank system. You are very knowledgeable.
@billheintz4529
@billheintz4529 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I picked up a yard sale bike with an integrated headtube, however the bearings on the top of the steer-tube were external and on the bottom of the steer-tube were missing. This video helped me sort out what I needed.
@MakeMajor
@MakeMajor 6 жыл бұрын
this probably took a lot of time to make, but thank you so much! i'm replacing a headset on my vintage bike and this video helped me clear out a lot of things cheers
@abuzman123
@abuzman123 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with Prof. Mustafa - best headset explanation I have ever seen.
@rafaelfiol3857
@rafaelfiol3857 Жыл бұрын
First let me begin by saying that this is the most informative video I have seen on the topic. Before watching it, I was only familiar with external threaded headsets and had no experience with any of threadless styles. One important point to note is that you must be very careful when making definitive statements about any technology that is subject to change over time. In your video, you state that “threaded headsets all are external”. That may very well have been the case when you made the video in 2017 - but by 2020, semi-integrated threaded headsets were also available. The NECO H184 on my Lectric XP eBIke (manufactured in 2020) is an example of such a headset.
@johnthebikeguy
@johnthebikeguy Жыл бұрын
That’s one of those things that didn’t exist when I made the video. Plus, that shouldn’t really exist - some horrible, mega-cheap, decision by someone in Asia. Or, catering to the worst type of cyclists - newbies that want their stem ultra high and are too cheap to buy an adjustable or high threadless stem. Or, they just had a crapload of surplus frames, threaded forks, and just podged something together. Might as well have had a cottered crank. I’d never buy anything with a threaded stem unless it was a vintage Colnago.
@jesseharris1737
@jesseharris1737 4 жыл бұрын
Good sir, I shall nominate you for best video on KZbin! Well done! Bravo!
@Paul_Gale
@Paul_Gale 7 ай бұрын
My brain hurts after listening to all that mess. I'm glad I could follow your explanations. well done ,just subbed
@tracimckinney9736
@tracimckinney9736 6 жыл бұрын
im fixing up some bikes for kids that live close by. this helped a ton. thank you so much buddy
@gyulakovacs1334
@gyulakovacs1334 4 жыл бұрын
Dear JOHN, this video is very helpful , thanks a lot .
@ebonymochi1790
@ebonymochi1790 3 жыл бұрын
This was very helpful because I ordered a bike for a gift from amazon and the headset and steering wasn't connecting. Now I understand why and what type of headset. It's a thread-less headset.
@vrproductreviews6330
@vrproductreviews6330 5 жыл бұрын
best viewed at 1.5 speed. Good info. Thanks for posting this.
@skyhigh9474
@skyhigh9474 5 жыл бұрын
Glad I watched this video. The chart for Integrated Threadless bearings and the angles needed was so helpful. I looked all over to decide the angles for my 1 1/8 1 1/2 tapered fork. Now I know. You are my hero today.
@jafo4775
@jafo4775 7 жыл бұрын
I kinda like the music. Relaxing, when my few remaining brain cells are straining to take in the info. Great vid. thanks.
@AndThenSome71
@AndThenSome71 2 жыл бұрын
I'm late to the party, but wow! You covered everything! Had all my questions answered, and much more! Thanks so much!
@jediplan1
@jediplan1 Жыл бұрын
I had the same situation, very straight forward explanation.
@masaharumorimoto4761
@masaharumorimoto4761 9 ай бұрын
Oh THANK YOU! I did my 1st repack of my headset bearings last night, complete success but today I woke up and was like "Yo what did I even do?! What was that lil split ring and what was that nut inside my fork called?!" lol thanks again for helping me understand, I think I got it, I want to install a new fork, just need to save up for one now hahaha!
@marian7965
@marian7965 5 жыл бұрын
Great video, many thanks. Exact, systematic and detailed description. Helps a lot to me. Thx!
@robpeters5204
@robpeters5204 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for a very simple explanation!!!
@tobyhood3314
@tobyhood3314 2 жыл бұрын
John. I'm going to float a concept to you. At 9:35 You sternly said not to insert a star nut into a carbon steerer. For the most part, I agree.Now I repair carbon frames for a living. A more common issure I am seeing is through poor pre ride checks and maintenence, carbon steerers are wearing a groove right where the compression split ring is located at the top of the stem. What these carbon steerer inserts fail to do is hold the stem in place over time. for example, as a rider hits a large bump in the road, the weight goes down on the handlebars and causes the steerer to deform allowing the stem to "creep" up the steerer causing the headset to come loose. Now there is movement, the steerer will were out on anything that it touches. I have been encouraging mechanics to look into ways of inserting an alloy shim and fixing with epoxy. Then inserting a starnut. This will not work in all cases, but is a lifesaver for the fork. I have done this on all forks that have been repaired and they have never shown sign of wear again. Food for thought.
@keyboardcritic
@keyboardcritic 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the information, I was totally lost before watching this. Great job 👍
@MechanicalEI
@MechanicalEI 5 жыл бұрын
JohnTheBikeGuy, Great Video. The demonstration was perfectly supported by your explanation. Thanks for uploading!
@lazmotron
@lazmotron 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this knowledge filled, information packed, educational video. Very interesting.
@9987molly
@9987molly 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid and very informative. What if I just need to replace the cartidge bearings and not the whole headset? How to i determine the size of the Bearings for the cups?
@delaguitara
@delaguitara 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that!!! Thoroughly enjoyed it and your information was invaluable and very useful. Two thumbs up.
@classydays43
@classydays43 6 жыл бұрын
Long ass, but bad ass. You just made my life so much easier.
@LTPottenger
@LTPottenger 4 жыл бұрын
Sooo helpful. I took two bikes apart and am trying to salavge good parts from one and suddenly realized had no idea what was what lol
@shacharlee9150
@shacharlee9150 Жыл бұрын
Thank you really helped loads didn't know there was so many different types wow 👏
@tsizzle
@tsizzle 6 жыл бұрын
LOL, hilarious... i wonder if Chef John watches this channel??? 😂
@asamusicdude
@asamusicdude 5 жыл бұрын
T Sizzle love food wishes
@picox8
@picox8 4 жыл бұрын
and as always... enjooooooy
@piyux
@piyux 4 жыл бұрын
What an impressive video, very informative, finally I have the information I need. Ignore those mentally challenged that always find something to criticize. This is an awesome video, period.
@Orisman9
@Orisman9 7 жыл бұрын
Very informative and the music fit just great! Thank you!!
@arirezaiskandar2710
@arirezaiskandar2710 6 жыл бұрын
Truly holistic information, thanks Bro!
@Methodical2
@Methodical2 6 жыл бұрын
Learned a lot more about headsets. Thanks
@danielnagy9717
@danielnagy9717 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you, it helped me a lot before buying one.
@alexnrsb6196
@alexnrsb6196 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely amazing video. Thanks!
@kevinnorman2588
@kevinnorman2588 7 жыл бұрын
Hate threaded stems but they are super easy to build/ disassemble but I have always wanted to know the magic behind that little nut that holds handlebars and forks together
@bradharper9282
@bradharper9282 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks a bunch for the information. I'm ordering a fork for my old Cannondale (Using headset reducers, hate the headshok). Just seeing the assembly gave me a much better understanding. (Keep the music, I love it)
@Fifa-ep4jg
@Fifa-ep4jg 3 жыл бұрын
thank you for the vid you made my life so much easy
@kopero2k504
@kopero2k504 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing your wisdom with me
@newttella1043
@newttella1043 Жыл бұрын
This video is a gem .
@nancyfansher4791
@nancyfansher4791 3 жыл бұрын
The thing I like about my 80's BMX bikes is what you can do with the threaded system, raise your bars! Loosen one bolt, set to desired height and tighten. Mid school and after you basically have to buy new bars with a higher rise or buy new forks with longer steer tube and a bunch of spacers which doesn't look very clean.
@RoachDogggJR
@RoachDogggJR Жыл бұрын
Its actually super clean and way more structurally sound
@WarpigGunsout
@WarpigGunsout 7 жыл бұрын
why did you modified your voice?, feel like I'm watching a video on how to make drugs. I liked the video
@johnthebikeguy
@johnthebikeguy 6 жыл бұрын
Aarón because I can.
@antdx316
@antdx316 5 жыл бұрын
@@johnthebikeguy I thought the voice was real. Do you wish your voice was like that naturally or you did it to be funny and it's worse?
@ussmillerco
@ussmillerco 5 жыл бұрын
The voice is one thing, the music makes me depressed and want to end it all.....but I’m interested in the headset types so There is my reason to live
@tomcatoda2652
@tomcatoda2652 5 жыл бұрын
@@johnthebikeguy because IM BATMAN!
@Joltinjess5
@Joltinjess5 4 жыл бұрын
"It uses the lotion or it gets the hose again!"
@mcduffrobert
@mcduffrobert 3 жыл бұрын
Hey John, what about using a tapered 1 1/8 to 1 1/2 fork into a straight head tube which has a internal head tube of 44mm. I think you need a external bottom cup that is 44mm outside that will fit up into the head tube and the bearing would then sit outside of the head tube. Is this possible?
@jonathanfarrely83
@jonathanfarrely83 7 жыл бұрын
thanks for this video i asked loads of bike mechanics on youtube to do a video like this as nobody has one on this very confusing subject im suprised you havent more views as my cycling group on facebook are always asking advice on this topic
@skysurferuk
@skysurferuk 2 жыл бұрын
Please tell your missus to stop with the piano. Interesting vid, helped me a lot. Might be an oldie, but it's a goodie! 👍
@cristibaluta
@cristibaluta 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this, now i know what i need to buy.
@markjmaxwell9819
@markjmaxwell9819 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the infomation very informative.....👍
@coevad3961
@coevad3961 9 ай бұрын
Great video. Really helped a lot. Thank you!
@seanhill7942
@seanhill7942 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks John. Great video. I'm trying to adapt a 11/8 steerer to a giant overdrive head tube which is a 47mm lower diameter. I've got an Acros 33/47 bearing but the adapter ring won't go all the way down the steerer to fit onto the fork. Should I give it a tap to force it into place? Thanks if youre still following this thread.
@seanhill7942
@seanhill7942 3 жыл бұрын
I meant 30/47...
@zdravo4
@zdravo4 4 жыл бұрын
Hello and thank you for this video. It’s very straightforward, clean and understandable for me as a noob. Big like and subscribe!
@vishnupv6867
@vishnupv6867 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely informative. THANKZZ
@fmphotooffice5513
@fmphotooffice5513 Жыл бұрын
Simple, straightforward. Thanks. In the future, edit in still pictures from your phone showing the caliper where it goes, showing the numeric display. Don't hate the threaded. It was just the state of the art at the time, even in high-end bikes.
@zaccheusmaynard1831
@zaccheusmaynard1831 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, however I'm looking for info on fitting a 1 1/8 - 1 1/2 tapered fork to straight head tube, But my frame's inner headtube measures 34mm... I know of adapters but how do I go about choosing the right 1 ?
@johnthebikeguy
@johnthebikeguy 2 жыл бұрын
Not possible as far as I know. You’d need a special extender on the bottom that keeps the fork from coming into contact with the ID of the head tube. 1.5” is bigger than 34mm.
@natkingcol909
@natkingcol909 4 жыл бұрын
Great video chef...
@seanmcaleavy2369
@seanmcaleavy2369 7 жыл бұрын
Very informative and helpful! Thanks a lot!
@eywang
@eywang 2 ай бұрын
9:35 😮 Thank you for making this point!
@AbideinChristSealed
@AbideinChristSealed 4 жыл бұрын
This answered my question. I have 44mm straight top and bottom headtube, and I wanted to know if I can use tapered fork. No :(
@buiux
@buiux 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I'm buying a frame with a integrated headtube of 1 1/8 top - 1 1/4 bottom. Using a integrated headset of the same measure i can use a fork with a straight steertube of 1 1/8 diameter? Will i need an adaptor. Thansk again for the video and atention.
@samfree8907
@samfree8907 3 жыл бұрын
Well explained! I was actually looking for an outer headset for a gravel bike. Can you recommend any (Mid/high priced) brands I can buy online?
@samfree8907
@samfree8907 3 жыл бұрын
I mean Chris King costs start from 170€ is it worth it to spend that much?
@drewty9082
@drewty9082 4 жыл бұрын
I have a Rockshox Judy Silver TK 120mm travel speed.. I am having trouble finding a headset size that will fit my fork. please let me know what size should I get. Thanks in advance! cheers
@netekv
@netekv 7 жыл бұрын
awesome! thanks.. please keep making more! and I think the music was a good choice.
@misu60
@misu60 6 жыл бұрын
That voice tho..it's like the devil talking about headsets
@cristiandanet6228
@cristiandanet6228 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much ! Very helpful !
@jimirsmith6247
@jimirsmith6247 5 жыл бұрын
If I have a one inch threadless steer tube on an older bike is it possible to change it to 1 1/8 external threadless as long as the new steer tub e fits through the bike,?
@anaverageeverydaynormaldud1804
@anaverageeverydaynormaldud1804 3 жыл бұрын
thank you for this information and the numbers. now im sure my headtube are a 34mm thank you!
@cesarsoto852
@cesarsoto852 4 жыл бұрын
Great video very helpful
@NerdTouchingGrass
@NerdTouchingGrass Жыл бұрын
This man is right my headset is so confusing i wanted a new fork and my old headset needs changing now i can find ANY bearings to fit it...
@lambo908
@lambo908 4 жыл бұрын
I bought a 34mm risk headset stupidly without measuring first and it's the same width as my headtube. So I would need a 30mm and a 1inch steertube or a 1/8? Still a newbie at this so any help would be much appreciated!
@matthewtaylor2965
@matthewtaylor2965 6 жыл бұрын
I brought my friends round we partied all night to your music in your video was the best party we have ever had, great video great music maybe think about some disk jockey and don’t listen to those nob jockeys
@johnthebikeguy
@johnthebikeguy 6 жыл бұрын
Matthew Taylor best response yet!
@johndebellis19
@johndebellis19 4 жыл бұрын
john - thank you for the video. I have watched your video several times and bought tow headsets that do not fit my 2015 trek 7.2 FX. Can you help me understand what headset can fit my bike? I have ordered 1 1/8" threadless twice but the bearings DO NOT fit into my steer tube. Should I be looking for bearings or a whole headset? Im ot that good at this , so can you suggest brand and part numbers also?
@melee401
@melee401 5 жыл бұрын
I have a 11/8" threaded set on my motorbike. What I HATE are the caged bearings, so I hand pack mine. No, not as weatherproof as many others but grease is cheap enough. Valvoline synthetic there always.
@bryanlaygond
@bryanlaygond 2 жыл бұрын
What exactly is the angle??? You never mentioned it in the video. You did mention they are correlated to the bearing size in integrated headtubes but what exactly is it?
@hilltopper600
@hilltopper600 2 жыл бұрын
excellent learning video-thanks
@300723
@300723 6 жыл бұрын
The fork bible on KZbin. Period! Thank for this video!
@JFWILSON220
@JFWILSON220 Жыл бұрын
Hi John, thank you for this video, i have an alloy dedacciai frame that i won on ebay without any headset or forks, i tried the integrated bearing races from a new set, (the bearings measure 7mm in depth); and it fits the bottom head tube fine but the top of the head tube is shallower and the bearing race sticks above headtube approx 1.5mm...is this normal?..not sure if its suppose to be like that and it perhaps originally had a top cup with a cowling that covered it....all the headsets i've seen so far seem to have top cup race covers that are flat like casino chips, so the race is seen. The frame's from about 2010 so hoping the headset is not obsolete, do you know of frames that have a deeper bottom bearing seat than the top bearing seat? Any help appreciated, cheers Jo
@white_shadow_123
@white_shadow_123 4 жыл бұрын
So I have semi integrated 44mm headtube with straight steertube 28.6mm. Could I somehow use tapered steertube, by changing the cups and bearings? I just need to find the cups that are 28.6mm/44mm for the top and 38.1mm/44mm on the bottom and it should work?
@CraigTreptow
@CraigTreptow 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you!! This was SO helpful.
@AncientGreek
@AncientGreek 5 жыл бұрын
How do I know which cup/bearing goes on top and which one goes on the bottom?
@61tree_VR_Gliding
@61tree_VR_Gliding 3 жыл бұрын
Very helpful video, thank you. Would be nice if there was no music..so irritating lol
@TrickMini
@TrickMini 4 жыл бұрын
Custom Headset Can you suggest a solution? Frame Cup Outside Diameter = 44mm Crown race Inside diameter = 27mm Fork tube O.D. = 25.4mm
@johnthebikeguy
@johnthebikeguy 4 жыл бұрын
No, it sounds like you’re trying to pair a 1” fork with a frame made only for 1-1/8. As far as I know, nothing exists. Unless someone makes an adapter headset.
@scottiusnevious5143
@scottiusnevious5143 5 жыл бұрын
I have a threadless stem but the bearings are that of a threaded headset. What can I do to use the external bearing kits?
@lereveure
@lereveure Жыл бұрын
absolute amazing content!!!! thank you sir! new subscriber here!
@ensignsports
@ensignsports 6 жыл бұрын
Hi, the information is most useful, Thank you. Would it be possible to share the head tube diameter sheets for download for reference? Thank you once again.
@jaysondocot1870
@jaysondocot1870 5 жыл бұрын
video what I'm looking for... keep it up! more power...
@JIBBING_1980S
@JIBBING_1980S 3 жыл бұрын
2021 headset explained? New version maybe..
@brendaleetv
@brendaleetv 2 жыл бұрын
I have a Motobecane Gravel x3 and it has caged bearings, now my friend wants to change it to external pressed bearings, for his new carbon fibre fork steerer of 1 1/8". But his measures top headset I.D. 41mm and O.D 46.8mm and cant find anything that will fit that bike. Any suggestions?
@kght222
@kght222 6 жыл бұрын
my columba 26" folder has a threaded headset, it is great for being about to quickly fold the handlebars without whipping out an allen key, although that is a specific situation, but a 26 inch folder that can fit in a moderately sized trunk is useful. my x-treme x-cursion ebike would need a bungee cord to fit in a large trunk while folded, and the handlebars are worse than the larger tires =P,
@keithelek410
@keithelek410 4 жыл бұрын
I have Northrock XC00 and the entire headset was stripped off the bike. The headtube is tapered. The bottom is 50.469 and the top is 43.713. I need another headset, any help would be very much appreciated.
@srphillips.4588
@srphillips.4588 4 жыл бұрын
Good stuff John, thanks for the information!!
@matt296
@matt296 7 жыл бұрын
Townie Electra is a THREADED SEMI-INTEGRATED - Havent looked at it yet, can assume the cups part of the frame.
@matt296
@matt296 7 жыл бұрын
No worries though, cant be on top of every nuance of the parts for a bicycle.
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