Biker vs Landowner #3

[@WiltshireByways]

A much more typical farmer's welcome: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fKG6dH2wl7qSjrc

[@charliegale8375]

Think I would of aired on the side of caution because of the of the livestock in the field,plenty of other places to go surley

[@ughxr500a3]

arh man couldn't even hear what was said What a waste of time

[@richardlee2488]

I have experience of both sides of this issue and can see both sides of the problem. Throughout the country byways are being illegally closed by councils as they are either corrupt or biased towards land owners and other users but as they have a responsibility to ensure the routes are maintained its an easy target for cut backs. The biggest defence of their actions is the use of non roadworthy vehicles and riders or drivers who do not stick to the route or are unlicensed. Aggressive use of speed and loud exhaust or engines can distress both farm and wild animals. Obey the rules and you may see your hobby continue. Break the rules and it will come to an end.

[@porkscratchings5428]

I nearly bought a farm which had public rights of way right across the farm yard and into a field I was going to use to graze our horses, no wonder the owner was trying to offload it as he was fed up of 1. Burglaries as so many people could literally walk into the back yard and out buildings 2. Gates weren’t shut properly by walkers etc so live stock escaped. 3. Arguments with walkers who went way off track to have picnics etc. it is a piss take, it’s like having people hang around your house, you don’t if they are genuine or not but a good excuse to go on your land etc..... I think if you owned land and had bikers like this rock up through your property it is enough to piss anyone off! Crazy shit isn’t it!!

[@WiltshireByways]

Like you, I would know what to expect if I owned land with a public road or right of way running across it. Thankfully most people are alright with me, regardless of how I use such ways. I've heard a few horror stories though - often concerning dogs which are out of control.

[@XanderHurley]

There is a solution to the problems is to clearly mark or even fence the byways appropriately to guide people along it and not onto private property for picnics etc, what you cannot do is to stop it, by way of obstruction or intimidation

[@x66Hawk66x]

There is a road just outside my house, no issue. these rights of ways have existed longer than anyone on earth currently alive. having a ROW near your house is no different than millions of other people living in the UK.

[@paulmayer7453]

@@x66Hawk66x too true, houses, flats, sheds, garages, they can and do get broken into wherever you live

[@ruger9617]

The best sign I ever aw on farmland was on a field full of cattle "I don't accept money for access to my land but the bull charges" another good one was "please feel free to cross this field but only if you can do it in 37 seconds the bull can do it in 38 seconds". Farmers can be fun peaple but please don't go on land with livestock even if there's a write of way it can be very dangerous both to you and the animals.

[@londonalicante]

If there is a public right of way, maybe the farmer shouldn't put dangerous bulls on it. Unless he has insurance to pay for the injuries they cause, of course. The farmer knows about the public rights of way when he buys the land, so he should respect them.

[@tweetdezweet]

@@londonalicante spot on! if there is a legal right of way... why not put your fences up accordingly, might be a pain in the butt but lets be honest... they don't because a lot of people will not realize there is a public right of way ...

[@glennoc8585]

@@londonalicante I don't believe the legislature covers what the farmer does on the land regarding livestock. A right of access and passage through is at the public's discretion.

[@londonalicante]

@@glennoc8585 The exact terms will depend on what it says in the deeds about the right of way. But in general if there is a public right of way, there will be some obligation (explicit or implied) to keep it safe. A passive agressive sign saying "I don't accept money but the bull charges" would likely be interpreted as an infringement of the right of way or threatening people not to use it. In the event that someone is injured they would be able to sue the farmer. The matter would be weighed in a court of law, and such a sign would likely count against the farmer, as an admission that he had knowingly placed dangerous animals on land with a public right of way across it. If the farmer has legal aid as part of his insurance, the existence of the sign may invalidate the insurance. On the other hand, if no right of way exists, the sign would help the farmer's case as it would be seen as a fair warning to trespassers.

[@londonalicante]

@@glennoc8585 I don't know where you'r from, but it's clear from the comments that some people from North America have difficulty understanding the concept of an ancient right of way. If I buy land either side of an interstate and then package it up and sell it to you, that obviously doesn't give you the right to stop traffic on the interstate. In a similar way, there is land here in the UK where similar deals were done, but centuries ago when there were no cars, and public rights of way still exist over that land. When you buy such land, the public rights of way come with it and must be respected.

[@6Twisted]

There won't be anywhere left to use a motocross bike soon because they're all becoming private or not for motor vehicles.

[@ollie6512]

4 years later still plenty of fun green lanes in South West of England:)

[@oliCRF]

@@ollie6512 all shut round Oxfordshire ways

[@WiltshireByways]

Just a few fucks delivered with hatred (from David). Not much was said from our party.

[@lewisjones7153]

Oops I read it as Biker vs lawnmower

[@ColinTonkasdad]

its a strange thing how people assume the farmer or landowner is right and some of the comments are just so ill informed . they dont want people using the right of way because the farm is worth more money and of course the rights of way were there long before the farm expanded !!! and closed off access illegally just chill people the worlds big enough for all ....

[@euro1859]

Colin Tonkasdad i'll come and ride a moto crosser through your garden anytime i want then,"oh but thats not a byway"does not matter whether they are ill informed,people have sympathy with folks who have to put up with groups like this just turning up when they feel like it and riding through their property like they own it,if you cannot see how it would piss owners off you are either an idiot or a filthy commie who hates anyone working the land they own.

[@pSyo0o0o]

A fair point regarding private property. .....but this is a public byway ya daft nugget. Walkers, horses, crossers it doesn't matter, they've got the right of access. If you don't like it deal with it or shut the fuck up

[@johnlindley5039]

Colin Tonkasdad

[@patbassman8251]

Yer ee bee buggered off by them moter bikes on iz land.

[@pauldonohoe3646]

@@euro1859 it's not their land you muppet. What part of this do you not understand?

[@bonkeye42]

Nice to see this video was on The One Show on BBC 1 last night

[@WiltshireByways]

He came out because he heard bikes. There's quite a bit of history to this right of way. A potted account can be found in the 'About' section of this video.

[@johnhorner769]

Well done for knowing your rights and standing up to a bad landowner 💪💪

[@designedtothrive9786]

You have to admit, it would be really shitty having a right of way right through your home. I wouldn't use it out of respect, and empathy, whether I'm legally entitled to or nor.

[@mcc9887]

yep agree legally right but morally wrong..

[@keandric2765]

That's kinda on the responsibility of the landowners. If you don't want to deal with a byway going through your property, then don't buy one that has one. Lol :)

[@Xighor]

@@keandric2765 what a stupid excuse for stupid rules

[@Leigh9920]

Most people have roads going past their houses in the UK 🤦‍♂️

[@pauldonohoe3646]

That is one of the dumbest statements I've ever read.

[@winterinkabul]

You British don't resort to fights often like here in the U.S. Very respectable

[@joshheinink]

I thought Americans are way more aggressive

[@ef7480]

Maybe it's because it's been invaded that many times and they've had enough now. PS, you mean English? There's 4 totally different countries in 'the U.K.'

[@martincooke6230]

@@ef7480 Just the once actually.

[@stip3135]

Your thinking of the english buddy the welsh scottish and irish act a lot differently.

[@glennoc8585]

@@stip3135 how so?

[@atomicdeath10]

How is it that the government can grant passage through someone else's property? That just seems wrong.

[@WiltshireByways]

+atomicdeath10 The road existed before the farm did, with the 'top two spits' being publically owned. You can read more about 'rights of way' in England & Wales here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rights_of_way_in_England_and_Wales

[@atomicdeath10]

WiltshireByways I'll give it a read, thanks. ;)

[@dingaling1338]

Atomicdeath10++++..........its just natural growth, these were Footpaths and Bridleways long before the Motor Vehicle. Then the Farm grows and expands (changes shape as they buy & sell land through the good and bad times) the Farmstead straddles the Thoroughfare but the Local Council chooses not to spend money on the Road(upgrade) so no Tarmac. But its still a Legal Thoroughfare, which the Farmer finds "Annoying" so he tries 'Gating it off' and other forms of Blocking / intimidation / assumed control............which leads to confrontation.

[@robertoc2485]

Because the right of way was there long before the property!

[@x66Hawk66x]

Because the road was not built on a farm, the farm was built on a road. Most of these rights of ways have existed hundreds of years some have even been around for over a thousand years with them dating back to the Roman times.

[@the_mad_ratter]

Try the one through Thornford/Sherborne ;) Just as much fun with the neighbours :P

[@sicks6six]

I had problems using public bridal ways 45 years back when trailing my bikes. Nothing has changed I see. I've been dragged off bikes by "land keepers" tennent farmers.

[@x66Hawk66x]

If you're riding Bridleways on a motorbike then you will have problems. you can only ride Byways.

[@sicks6six]

@@x66Hawk66x to be clear, sorry, it was a by-way, cars used it to access stables and two farms as well as council & NCB vehchiles to access bridges and buildings, it was an old railway line until the 1960s then used for cars and vans but never tarmacked or sign posted, but everyone used it. that's not the only place I had problems riding off road, it became a sport for some people to attack off road bikers during the late 1970s I noticed a huge change, during the 1960s all land had scramblers on it and no one give a hoot then all of a sudden things changed (they did for me anyways!)

[@BarmyTwubble]

I am all for peace and quiet and I love the countryside for just that to and hate motorbikes ruining the tranquillity and wish they didn't exist lol However we all have hobbies and do stuff along with all of us probably at one point or another do many things that we are allowed to do by law or what ever but that annoy others even if these things annoy them in a different kind of ways to this. So basically although I hate bikers in the country and would love to see an end to them I am not against these guys really and well if they are allowed to do what they are doing where they are doing it then good luck to um. The right of way was there long before any land was purchased and the land owner knew damn well that right of way passage was there and could be used at any time by anybody when they purchased the land. It is not as if they bought the land and then somebody come and smacked a right of way passage dead in the middle of it, so there is nothing for them to moan at here. Don't want a right of way passage being used through your property and land, don't buy land with one already there! The land owner just totally assumed they could purchase or ban the right of way access somehow and went ahead with buying anyway. Simples.

[@MrSlugbait]

BarmyTwubble Nice to see that you can appreciate both sides, even while not liking bikes, good on you. I do a lot of greenlining as a hobby and always try to keep to the rule "try not be noticed or disturb others" (includes animals). I find that if you treat the area and locals with respect, most of the time all is good. I run a quiet engine and muffler, don't over-rev and don't tear up the ground, but I guess there will always be the bad apples, (both sides), peace.

[@x66Hawk66x]

motorbikes are not ruining the tranquillity of the countryside, the uk has over 90000 miles of footpaths and 20000 miles of bridleways compared to only 3000 miles of byways.

[@WiltshireByways]

No need - we were having a good time, he was having a bad time, and nothing is going to change that. Why not pay a visit with your convoy the next time you're all out and about?

[@senifil]

Why vs? The Farmer seems to allow trespassing on his property. I don't see the problem.

[@WiltshireByways]

It's part of a series I make about the things I see. Biker vs Tree, Biker vs Marathon etc. I don't think a (civil) offence of trespass is possible when using a public right of way.

[@senifil]

Oh, alright. I expected a fight when I saw VS to be honest. But everyone was acting quite civilized.

[@senifil]

Alright I got it.

[@londonalicante]

Not trespassing if there is a public right of way (which the farmer would have known about when he bought the land.)

[@x66Hawk66x]

using a public road It's not trespassing at all.

[@iansomerville]

Transcript, please!

[@treesinthesky4656]

Wait I'm confused. So over in the UK or where ever this was filmed its okay to just ride your dirt bike on someone else's farm land? Like you can just open the gate and go on in without permission?

[@WiltshireByways]

No. You can only use 'rights of way' of which there are four types (pedestrians, +horse riders and cyclists, +carriage drivers, +motorised vehicles). The type for motorised vehicles is called a 'byway open to all traffic' and constitutes about 2% of all rights of way. A BOAT runs through this farm and the farmer is both well aware of its presence and that he is powerless to stop people using it in a responsible manner. For further information please read the 'about' section of the video and the Wikipedia page on rights of way in England and Wales: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rights_of_way_in_England_and_Wales

[@treesinthesky4656]

Ohh okay. That makes more sense!

[@WiltshireByways]

Love my Horse Thanks for taking the time to ask and learn :)

[@vitamingrin1]

i think we may just do that .. though it will unfortunately take much longer to get trucks through :)

[@beawarenow8287]

are they allowed to gate a right of way?

[@WiltshireByways]

+BeAware Now Yes - providing it is not an 'obstruction'. It's usually something that must be agreed by the local authority.

[@beawarenow8287]

arr ok cool

[@GTFour]

what does he say?

[@squidword64]

Oi get orf moi laaaand

[@JD-qv2dq]

farmer should sell stuff..... like fuel, maps , cold drinks, weed.... etc........... profit from visitors..... ;-)

[@markkrause4407]

You may want to label this with your country at issue . The United States has far different trespass laws . Otherwise this will continue to confuse many. Agree ?

[@WiltshireByways]

I'm sure visitors from the USA will quickly see that the vehicles do not use their native registration plates.

[@zaphodbeeblebrox9109]

Don't agree. Just use your brain.

[@mossadon]

Watched a few of these today.....funny how most of the biker centered comments love referring to "They are ancient byways...right of way..." Generally think farmers, ramblers and people who live by these places are old curmudgeons, giffers and all round general spoil sports. Fuckin motorbikes weren't invented when these places went OUT of use, never mind when they were in use. Most of the paths were reopened due to Ramblers who, lets be fuckin brutally honest, are lot quieter than a moto ! Only slowly over a the years have motos got into this, as England is so fuckin small there's fuck all places ya can go on a moto and get yer oh so important cheapies (thrills) and The Law says ya can and these farmers are reet twats.. . . Not really. You guys never used to bother. it certainly wasn't a moto society that reclaimed these paths and ancient roads..ANCIENT roads, pre fuckin engines. Everyone is so quick to forget that a LOT of these paths/ "Roads" (no fuckin road or path left sometimes!...oooh, fuckin GREAT FER CROSSERS!!!) were long out of use so, as is actually natural, the use around them and their disuse as Rights Of Way changed the overall environment and the mental attitudes of those who live around them / ON them. "But it's OUR RIGHT!" What are you, twelve ?! i couldn't even see a fuckin track in the field in this video ! "But it's our RIGHT!" I bet a £100 quid non of you lot would like the local chavs / youth regularly hangin about outside yer house...ya know...coz it's a nuisance / upsets the wife / boyfriend / dog. Even better when the few of age get their mopeds. "But the Police will move them on, so...snerrrrrr!" Wait....why would you call the police on them and have their fun and harmless banter stopped? A bit of noise and litter ? and THAT is the same boat a lot of these farmers are in. It wasn't them that built around these old roads and reshaped the area. That happened generations ago ! No one likes being pissed off but you lot certainly don't mind pissin others off fer yer cheapies and think it's o.k coz quiet, engineless walkers got these places opened up again and "It's our RIGHT!" i saw a post below from the O.P encouraging convoys to go down to this guys place. That, sir, makes you the massive twat in this sceanario. "Rights" or not. P.S. i'm not an old codger. Have friends who ride and generally have a "Live n let live" attitude to life but fuck me have i read/seen some proper self righteous shit today ! Fuckin surrounded by cars, trucks, motorbikes every fuckin day, every fuckin where but want a quiet walk in the country and a bit of nature ? NO! FUCK YOUS! WE ALLOWED T' BE NOISEY SMELLY CUNTS 'ERE TOO!.....IT'S OUR RIGHT ! wankers. We should put it to a proper countrywide vote, proper democratic like, n see who'd fuckin win this one ! "Ere! Honeymuffin ! There's a bunch of fellas walkin through the garden !" "Eh?.........OI! WHAT the fffFUCK D'YA FINK YER DOIN ?!!!!" "oH.....We grew up round 'ere as kids, before these houses wuz built...This used t' be a path t' shops over yonder! We're jus taking the old route we used as kids, n me Dad did...and 'is Dad before 'im !" "What the...?....Well, it's MY FUCKIN GARDEN NOW! YER SCARIN THE DOG N TRAMPLIN ME GRASS N MAKING IT MUDDY !!!!" ".......AND ?....My family walked this route fer generations mate! fuck off!!!" Same inconsiderate bullshit but without man made Laws and loud smelly engined motorbikes. "Naah mate! That's not the same at all!" Isn't it ? hmmmm...really ? Is it not ? All i did was remove the notion of made up Laws and motorbikes...coz, ya know... They'd have to be on foot fer the Hedge Hopping !!! It is actually the same. The use of this land changed, paths n old roads went out of use but someone remembered there was a path.. . . . Ya certainly wouldn't like that shit in YOUR back yard ! ....but think these farmers should put up with your noisy shit !!!! But i know....yer part of a club, a tribe, you're special. (Your synapses have actually been rewired to make you favour your own tribe....look at how that plays out in the middle east!) and, of coarse "It's our RIGHT!" pFFFFT. Fuckin HUMANS! TL;DR ? Awwww...yer pwoor bwain hwurting ? Sad Face. Mine isn't...coz like a muscle i use mine, keeps it agile...i mean... look at all that bollox i jus wrote !!! =D Now...Ivadinuff ... Shudupyabitch !!!!! >necks some Vodka

[@WiltshireByways]

90% of the British road network has been developed from green roads which were never intended for motor vehicle use when first created, with all roads being unsealed or only improved with stone when the motorcycle was invented, 151 years ago.

[@mossadon]

Ey oop ! Key word; Developed. ;) i've seen a few of your videos and gota say ya handle yerself with good manner... . . but below .. and four years ago, granted, you encourage people to convoy down and through this guys place ! That betrays the decent well mannered guy i've jus been watching in other videos. Anyway, cheers fer the history lesson. Mind 'ow thee gan.

[@WiltshireByways]

If people own land adjoining or bisected by public roads then they should expect the public to want to use them. Somerset County Council are particularly familiar with this green road and see no need to restrict our use of it, which they consider to be more important than the wishes of the adjacent landowner.

[@mossadon]

i know. i understand. But i also get the psychology at play. Adventuring off road moto riding tribe Vs "Gerrowff myy laand !" Farming tribe. You see a line on a map and have a law (a made up thing) on your side and the will to want to ride off road. Farmer has land he is on every day and mostly on weekends, noisey fuckers on bikes turn up demanding to cross his field. There is in some cases as i said, no friggin road left so to me, that's jus an argument in your favour to point at old maps n say "Lookit!...Road!..." and piss people off who quite understandably don't want you there. It's ego vs ego....n that's humans up, down n sideways. EGO. It'll be the end of this stage of life on this planet, i swear!

[@WiltshireByways]

Most people I meet - particularly farmers - are quite happy with responsible motorcycle use. Of a much greater concern are people who risk allowing their dogs to chase animals. For clarification, a great deal of the public roads we use were declared by landowners to the government of the day as part of Tithe or Finance Act declarations, with six months hard labour being the penalty for making a false declaration under the 1909 Act. Prior to that public roads were awarded under the Inclosure Acts of 1773-1882, which saw masses of land stolen from collective public ownership and given to wealthy landowners. We we lucky to have any rights or entitlements at all after that. It's quite easy to think you've got a valid point when your lack of understanding enables a reduced, simplistic understanding of how our rights came to be. Thankfully a substantive body of law, history and independent research helps assist the powers that be to make consistent decisions in the public.

[@Rinifi]

This is crazy. Why does the British government allow these bikers to travel through private property. Sadly, were doing the same along the California coast.

[@WiltshireByways]

It's not private property. The road is owned by the public and the farmer has chosen to farm around it.

[@AlphaGoII]

Rinifi They are ancient rights of way

[@londonalicante]

If you buy a farm and the Title Deeds say that there is a public right of way over it, then you have to respect that right of way. If you don't want to do that, don't buy it.

[@msha8cerys]

Because the British government is shite corrupt and only think of themselves and their stuck up there own ass attitude stinks

[@x66Hawk66x]

@@msha8cerys Really? how did you reach that conclusion ?

[@graemeh2028]

Inaudible

[@WiltshireByways]

It wasn't any clearer though a helmet. All I could see was that he was angry.

[@rod9311]

You do this on purpose, do you have a point to prove?

[@keandric2765]

If you go his 'about' section, you would see that he is trying to film and capture every legal (old I think) byway, lane, ect, in his county (or whatever it's called in England). He does his research to find out what the legal path is, and uses his gps to stay on the legal right of way. Everything he does is legal, and he appears to be the upmost respectful of the land he crosses.

[@keandric2765]

If they were illegally crossing the farmer's fields it would be a whole heck of a lot More disrespectful, but since they stay on the legal rights-of-way and don't just don't go riding willy-nilly all throughout the whole field they are completely allowed to cross them. And while it Is true that there are some people who are probably obnoxious about it and still go full speed, everything I've seen from this guy and his friends has never been anything but respectful. They close gates that they open, whenever there are horses going past they stop so as to not startle them, whenever they are going past walkers, people walking dogs, and past livestock in fields they always go very slowly. As to the last thing, that's really a matter of opinion. It's a legal hobby as well as a mode of transportation. It can be as annoying as Anything can be, depending on the person doing it. ✌

[@davekelly8168]

Ger orfff me land.. lol.....

[@inachu]

The only way a true right of way would be if it can be verified that no dirt road or paved road can let you get to where you are going. If there is no alternative routes then yes you gotta do what you gotta do but if a right of way is just a joy ride around on someones farm and then 2-3 hours later you return back then you did not prove right of way and just proved loitering and destruction of farm land that is used for the animals. Destruction of this type would be seen as not just fined but possible jail time and money or more surely to go back and fix the land you destroyed by the wheels of the bike that dig into the dirt.

[@WiltshireByways]

This road is recorded as a right of way (byway open to all traffic). A short history of the highway can be found in the video description. No destuction of public or private land happened and in any case the greater risk is damage from animals (dairy cattle).

[@inachu]

If I was part of the town govt then I would create a path so no farm gate needs to be opened. Normally I would call this bad town management but I know when farms can be in the family for hundreds of years and growth is not taken into account then I think some farms should abide by common township laws to cede some land for right of way then those gates can remained locked and so forth.

[@WiltshireByways]

Obstructing a public highway with barriers, locks etc. is an offence.

[@flyn2917]

U my friend earnt a subscriber

[@deltalima5745]

Charlie chaplin silent movie. WTF.

[@andyl.32]

Farmers always get buthurt about land haha

[@neilkidger886]

Wonder how you'd feel if I drove across your lawn and with a grin on my face!

[@TheSynecdoche]

Of course, it's what they earn their living with. What I se here are four dirt bikers preparing to ride through someone else's meadow with cattle in it. Same situation as when these bikes tried to ride through a car factory - because centuries ago there was a bridle path underneath it. And what if in the near future a housing estate were built in this same spot? Would bikers run through people's kitchens for the simple reason that that is where a bridle path used to be? Don't think so.

[@x66Hawk66x]

@@neilkidger886 I would not feel a thing, because I am not a selfish idiot who buys land with a clearly established ROW only to complain later.

[@stephenhanson4513]

the country side is for every one not just the land owners and the high way code still applies so these walkers that wave from side to side are breaking the law if you do that on a main road you will get knocked down or charged with public order offence so its the same on the tracks by ways but some land owners can not grasp the rules

[@neilkidger886]

The clue is in your comment ( landowner) if you had a lawn I'd drive over it!

[@keandric2765]

@Oliver Mayo except that he wasn't On private property, he was on a legal right of way that any of the public is able to use. Doesn't matter How long that land has been in a family for. Still is a Public, Legal byway. And in 99% of cases, the Road has probably existed for hundreds of years Before that was even private farmland. This guy does his research before he goes on these public byways. He knows where the public Is and isn't allowed to be

[@mcc9887]

theres being right and theres being morally right.....do you really have to ride all over the countryside....isn't this country spoiled enough i live in a city so dont like farmers much either but fat middle aged men having a midlife crisis on a motor bike in a field of cows dont seem right to me somehow

[@WiltshireByways]

Most of us have ridden since we were teenagers or children and continue to enjoy motorcycling, which is good for both mind and body. The highway here hugs the hedge to the right of frame, which we kept to as much as anyone else would. NB, I work on a farm and am grateful for the hardworking farmers who provide our food.

[@mcc9887]

seems to me most of our food is brought in from abroad and our fields are full of motor bikes...same old same old... i enjoy it so everybody else can suffer it...yoga is good for the body ...good food is good for the body ...iv never come across the motor bike is good for the body must have missed that one ..any way you enjoy...will also add just read a comment and must agree you seem to revel in the argument it seems as important to you as your pathetic hobby

[@WiltshireByways]

Only someone who doesn't ride motorcycles could say such a thing - it's a physical activity, particularly so off-tarmac: www.bikerandbike.co.uk/motorcycling-burns-between-170-and-600-calories-per-hour/

[@mcc9887]

after reading the comments aimed at you dont know how you've got the nerve to reply people cant stand this...its just wrong...

[@mcc9887]

that farmer is mortified at the thought of you lot going across that field full of cows but does it bother you ...no..as long as you get your cheap thrill

[@godchannelled5990]

The animals love the noise from the bikes.. Shame he Carnt helicopters in there too...

[@mycomments8342]

What wrong with people that they think they can just ride up on someone's property? Clearly Property Rights is a foreign concept across the pond.

[@WiltshireByways]

We have a long established system that is different to the US (actually, it pre-dates the US, so it's more accurate to say that yours is different to ours). Please take the time to learn how the system works before assuming that something is wrong just because you don't understand how it works. The thread on this page by d0gm34t on this page explains everything and only takes a few minutes to work. Like everything, the system we have works well but can be abused by people who lack respect for other users. Thank you. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rights_of_way_in_England_and_Wales

[@ashwallace1987]

Point is, it's a public right of way. A route that's existed long before the landowner was there. The bikers are legally entitled and allowed to use this route.

[@x66Hawk66x]

Wow the irony these rights of ways have existed longer then your country. many 1000s of years longer than your country. I suggest you read up on why they exist before making such an ignorant comment.

[@zapbrannigan000]

if i was the land owner i would dig up the path or chop down trees to make it impassable for bikes and horses.....problem solved.

[@WiltshireByways]

You would likely receive a huge fine and prison sentence if you did, along with a court order to reinstate the highway.

[@zapbrannigan000]

you would have to do it on the quiet and deny all knowledge.

[@WiltshireByways]

What would a judge think?

[@zapbrannigan000]

they have to prove it.....dont do it near your house but find somewhere remote...even just dumping large rocks on path to stop bikes and horses.

[@WiltshireByways]

Not if heard upon the balance of probability. Rocks, logs and other such obstructions are fairly easy to have removed, with most councils undertaking it when asked.