Biker vs Landowner

[@stgray35]

makes me laugh how the land owner said it was a footpath not a byway, but still has tonnes of crap dumped all over it .

[@MrCantafio]

It's amazing how polite people are everywhere aside from America. It makes me sad to have to live here. If that had happened here people would be cursing and screaming and fighting each other..

[@alanpassat6759]

simon jones In the UK we just butcher each other with steak knives or punch each other to death

[@midnightcoalco9485]

IF YOURE SO SAD JUST GTFO OF THE USA. THIS BIKER NEEDS A BULLET HE IS JUST A TROUBLE MAKER

[@markbailey3027]

@@midnightcoalco9485 haha shut up you bellend

[@tweetdezweet]

not only in the states, recently a volunteer conservation worker rammed a horse with his tractor because the rider had bad mouthed him when he was told he wasn't allowed there with his horse... The rider was already turned around and on his way back when this happened.... shit happens everywhere I'm afraid :)

[@steffenfrost995]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/aZvbgolpitKbqJY This is how it works otherwise (watch til end end)

[@chrisosairblowninflatablec9208]

Atleast he was willing to listen and learn meaning the landowner

[@ColdSpearo]

He didn't learn anything. He already knew it was a byway. He only came around because he realized the biker wasn't going to back down and that he was in the wrong. I'd bet you a lot of money that he shouted and abused the very next biker that comes past his house.

[@muhaahaloa941]

hahaha his ass dropped as soon as you said you would report him to environmental health so he is doing some thing wrong on that land.

[@WiltshireByways]

Muhaa Haloa Yes, he understood exactly what that meant!

[@christiankane9698]

So polite and willing to listen both parties, I somehow got onto Dirtbike vs farmers/civilians/lumberjacks or something of that sort and gotta love the civility of the Brits.

[@welwynwheels3658]

You dealt with that really well - friendly, polite, came to an understanding - no need for drama. Could have been a lot more unpleasant the way he came up to you - good man.

[@WiltshireByways]

Cheers - It was all theatre on his part.

[@EdenAbove]

seems like a nice enough guy really . you both handled this situation very well

[@RandomTXDude210]

Good for you standing up for this.

[@EjectPrev]

omg they're so nice to eachother "is this not the right of way :/?" "no :/" "are you gonna move me then :)" "yea :))" "ok come and move me :)" lmao bye

[@DerbJd]

Every by-way I drove my 4x4 down now has a locked gate. Good old Warwickshire.

[@ukbiker1631]

Then report them to the council. If it is supposed to be BOAV, it is illegal to have a locked gate. A gate is OK if it isnt locked.

[@madmaz8890]

and this is the correct way to deal with landowners , instead of getting into a heated argument, coming to a gentlemanly agreement

[@RisingArmyDowner]

i thought that said lawnmower

[@zTeCF33DS]

Same

[@troutman41384]

same

[@AICovers]

I think we all have dyslexai

[@relentlessmotion]

gameingtutorilsforu same

[@NickkAtNyte]

I'll be damned, I had to look again and sure enough it does say Landowner, not lawnmower!

[@BILLHOVER]

scrap yard, what farmer has a lorry with a crane on it, does not want people to see whats gone on

[@spetznaz14]

lol this is literally 2 miles down the road from me (East Knoyle), thought I recognised it as soon as I started playing the video..

[@MrEatmorebeans]

I live on that byway, at the other end in the village, moved in last year. It's changed a bit since this clip was shot! There's still people living there and it's very rarely blocked, once there's been a van parked on it. never seen that tractor.

[@WiltshireByways]

Thank you for the update Tony, hopefully we can all move on in peace now.

[@MrEatmorebeans]

@@WiltshireByways have you ridden the byways from Shaftesbury to coombe bisset area? Loads of fun, bits of the TET included.

[@WiltshireByways]

Yes - videos in my 'Wiltshire Byways' playlist. I included the more sustainable ones in the TET.

[@MikkelHougaard]

Omg i thought it was biker vs lawnmower

[@TetrologyGamingBattlefield]

would of been awesome if it was

[@nr1stuart435]

HAHAH me2 XD

[@MikkelHougaard]

yea true:D but thaat would make a sleightly more intresting video XD

[@compoundfracture]

I think you handled yourself very well. Ride on!

[@stormballs6717]

I thought that furhat was his hair for a sec and I was like "Dat hair style tho".

[@aminyamisses6013]

I thought it was like an un sheered sheep thats gone all matted on his head

[@CrazedFandango]

I live in a rural location and have experienced landowners blocking rights of way.

[@therowdyboysnetwork2827]

I was driving a can am x3 in county dirt roads in a small rural town and as I was coming back to come home a crazy old man blocked the road with his truck and atv and confronted me for driving fast on a dirt road. I told him he is not a cop so there for he can’t do that and I also was doing that to hear that turbo whistle. 🤣

[@ukbiker1631]

It is illegal to block a byeway. Well done for being firm yet polite.

[@_valve]

It's nice how people are respectful like that in the UK.

[@Jonesykins]

jdawsnipes pft. this is just a face mask...

[@ashleycattermole87]

its a mixed bag! theres plenty of arseholes that wouldnt talk calmly like this!

[@ConstantThrowing]

You are such a legendary handler of people. Incredible.

[@WiltshireByways]

Thank you. Rationality didn't come naturally to me but I made the party in the end.

[@nikolaimcduffie7591]

for some reason when i looked at the title of the video i thought it said biker vs lawnmower LOL

[@WiltshireByways]

I have neither jealousy nor envy for the way that this man chooses to live his life. I care enough about the environment to want to preserve the enjoyment of it for other people and enough about the rule of law to understand that no-one should be above or outside of it.

[@HD-dz4uk]

He needs environmental health calling, illegal dumping, tax evasion no doubt. Could be up to worse, blocking tracks should be illegal. I only walk them but some landowners go out of their way to make it difficult. Some on the other hand go out of their way to make it obvious on the route through their land. If the route is obvious there is less disturbance ALL round.

[@racerx143]

If everyone would just take a moment to think shit out like these guys, the world would be a better place. Friends by the end... amazing.

[@vwjd77]

At one point I thought that was his real hair !

[@wowforreeel]

"Help, help! I'm being repressed!"

[@BaddaBigBoom]

Come and see the violence inherent in the system!

[@GETTHEDEUCE]

jA byway in the United Kingdom is a track, often rural, which is too minor to be called a road. These routes are often unsurfaced, typically having the appearance of 'green lanes'. Despite this, it is legal (but may not be physically possible) to drive any type of vehicle along certain byways, the same as any ordinary tarmac road. In 2000 the legal term 'restricted byway' was introduced to cover rights of way along which it is legal to travel by any mode (including on foot, bicycle, horse-drawn carriage etc.) but excluding 'mechanically propelled vehicles'. On 2 May 2006 the Countryside and Rights of Way Act 2000 reclassified all remaining Roads Used as Public Paths as restricted byways. The public's rights along a restricted byway are to travel:[1] on foot on horseback or leading a horse by vehicle other than mechanically propelled vehicles (thus permitting e.g. bicycles, horse-drawn carriages, to travel along restricted byways), except in certain circumstances.

[@DjNikGnashers]

So to summerise, polite motorcycle rider goes down byway, landowner knows it's a byway but tries his luck to bully the rider into moving off the byway, realises rider is much bigger than him and isn't scared, so then backs down and licks his arse...Not a bad video, and I gave it a like !!!

[@mikehung3608]

thanks, didnt know this lane was there will be heading up there this weekend with my pajero and mates

[@houseofsoothingrelaxation]

You are just lucky since you are alone and they did not do anything stupid to you.. Your tape is nothing if he kill you that moment.

[@ellimae1548]

nah the young kid is too busy checking out the motorcycle and wishing that his dad sold some junk and bought him one 😂

[@WiltshireByways]

What would the residents of West Wellow say about you Sandy? Would they say that you and Jamie are 'respected' or would they criticise you for moving your home onto land without planning permission? Sharing the same situation as the gentleman in my video doesn't make your actions any more honourable.

[@HylomantisLemur]

The council should label these VERY clearly and notify landowners so situations like this don't arise. It seems confusion over what is what fuels these altercations.

[@WiltshireByways]

I can't remember if it's signed as a BOAT at either end, but it has always been marked as such on maps, and on the Council's own website. I think the man knows that it's a byway and wilfully chooses to obstruct it.

[@ColdSpearo]

Yes they should be better signed but it most definitely isn't the cause of most situations like this. This land owner just like 99% of all other landowners who complain when people perfectly legally ride past their houses, know full well that it's a byway, and they've always known it's a byway. They just have some demented delusion that because they would prefer it didn't happen, they have the right and the power to stop it. Not quite how the law works I'm afraid. I would have handled it exactly as this fella did, except I would have immediately reported him for ILLEGALLY blocking a public byway, the second I got home.

[@Johny40Se7en]

Great that you both come to a nice agreement, good stuff.

[@steffenfrost995]

Nice agreement here too ;) kzbin.info/www/bejne/aZvbgolpitKbqJY

[@rossmcneilh9257]

D'ya like dags?

[@stephendunne1739]

A career in diplomacy awaits you.

[@BelloBudo007]

Ahhh this makes me realise how much I miss Steptoe and Son.

[@alanjenkinson7812]

and how much harm is he doing to the land, oh he owns it so he can pollute it all he likes. very well done with how you deal with people. a great skill!

[@JoeHarkinsHimself]

what language are they using?

[@TheSeangallacher]

hair or a hat?? ahahah

[@RevvedUpBiker]

Dead rabbit. lol

[@chrissmith8460]

***** originally, yes.. It's a Ushanka hat.

[@marcusp905]

Badger me thinks

[@freedomofmotion]

Who do you go to to talk about byways being unofficially closed? One of my local ones ( only two in my town) have been closed out with multiple gates, fake signs about restricted use were put up and even the little red arrow has been removed ( still listed as a byway everywhere though) seems really unfair and I wonder how many byways we loose from this slow encroachment from land owners. I understand why they've added the gates at the ends, people kept dumping stuff on their access roads but there must be a better alternative.

[@WiltshireByways]

Those are 'obstructions' in law and need to be reported to your local authority's rights of way team. Where is the byway? Can you give me a grid reference?

[@freedomofmotion]

WiltshireByways Coordinates on Google maps are 51.7387695, 0.1004709 . If you utilise street view you can see that in that picture there's a blue bridal way arrow how ever it's listed as a b.o.a.t last time I checked in the public byways information folder in the town library. It's also listed as a b.o.a.t on bywaymap.com and when I checked on the ordinance survey app. Here's a link if it helps goo.gl/maps/XkMeoFmh5Bw The post that the blue arrow has been fitted is no longer there. Perhaps I'm in the wrong but seeing as everywhere I checked states it's a byway other than the signage its self it's seems that perhaps some jiggery pokery has taken place. Thanks for your time and assistance in this matter. It's really appreciated. The arrow at the other end of the lane is red ( albiet quite a faded red) which further adds to confusion ha.

[@WiltshireByways]

Hello again. The interactive rights of way map on Essex CC's website tells me that the byway is recorded as Epping Upland 12. A cross-check with their TRO register: www.essexhighways.org/uploads/PROW/Long%20Term%20TROs%20on%20Byways.pdf identifies that the byway is subject to a seasonal closure affecting four-wheeled vehicles. Motorcycle use appears lawful all-year round, with four-wheeled use only lawful between 1st April and 31st October each year. The barrier should be unlocked during this time and the metal stakes are presumably in place to allow all other users access, including motorcyclists.

[@freedomofmotion]

WiltshireByways Fantastic thank you so much . The posts have been installed for about 3 years now. The other end of the byway has 3 gates now that are shut at all times. The ones closest to the main road almost entirely close access. I can currently still squeaze by but it's not ideal. On my other channel I have footage where one of the locals stoped me to tell me I wasn't allowed on there. I engaged with them and showed my map and they left thanking me for the education on the subject of byways ha. You've been a great help though as it confirms that the signs have in-fact been out up by the locals with threats of motorcycle confiscation etc.

[@WiltshireByways]

Well done - some people will try it on but most are willing to be educated. Any issues with access or signage can be taken up with the rights of way department, who are likely quite helpful. When people are unwilling to consider that motorcycle use is lawful, I get off my bike, crouch by my number plate and ask that they take a photo of my face (grinning, with thumbs up) to send to both the local police and rights of way. I'm told by rights of way in Wiltshire that they've not yet received any such photo.

[@bradm7046]

Well I hope you reported the obstruction and fly tipping.

[@tailsdollblack9340]

junkyard much got a two seater quad in there i need one D:

[@nasaman23]

lol i read "bike vs lawnmower"

[@Riksuuu]

same

[@dr.c_y_r_a_x_x5436]

I tought the titel is " Biker vs Landrover"

[@rod9311]

Why did you ride down the 'public right of way' then turned round and rode back down, was it for the confrontation?

[@WiltshireByways]

No - the byway is quite isolated and I had planned to aquire video of it being ridden in both directions.

[@awarenessuk4133]

Unfortunately these byeways are starting to see great change. If you revisited Old Coach Road - Wraxall you'd discover that the 6'6" typical byeway has been extended to nearly 20' in places, possibly more, with hard aggregate. This was 6 months or so after a brand new 'byeway, open to all traffic' sign appeared. Wikipedia would describe a byeway as 'often unsurfaced but legal to drive any vehicle along'. Old Coach Road has seen tall trees and hedgerows dissapear causing distruction to wildlife and once beatiful countryside in that area. I'm unaware if this area is included in Wraxall's status as an area of outstanding natural beauty however, I do know it's caused great concern to the local community. A wealthy businessman (name witheld) has bought up land off of part of this byeway and it would seem that development will follow, we're unsure? Am absolutely in agreement that vehicles and horses etc should be able to access these little gems of England but would anyone or indeed this channel owner be able to shed more light? I'm not a lawyer or authority in anyway on such things however I would appreciate the channel owner and anyone who may be able to increase our knowledge on what may be happening to our historical byeways pass comments on this and get their thoughts on new extremely wealthy landowners overdeveloping these? BTW! Enjoy your videos. Many thanks.

[@WiltshireByways]

Hello. If the public highway (byway) is being unlawfully developed then the first place to report it would be Wiltshire Council's Rights of Way department. Typically, the width of a highway runs from fence to fence (or hedge root to hedge root) as this is also the limit of private ownership.

[@ukbiker1631]

@@WiltshireByways I would imagine that if someone owns the land through which a byeway passes, while they may not block the byeway, widening it is entirely at their discretion since the widening is on their land.

[@WiltshireByways]

@@ukbiker1631 The top two spits of a public highway are vested to the highway authority.

[@jawkneeG]

Imagine if all youtube comments went like this verbal altercation... it'd be so peaceful *single tear*

[@WiltshireByways]

Don't forget a camera!

[@vtrmcs]

This is like Deliverance, but in the UK.

[@lildeejfbz6389]

This would never happen in America, it's a shame. Kinda makes me wanna move to the UK. Are a lot of people in the county side like this?

[@WiltshireByways]

No, this man is very much the exception.

[@jamessanders7779]

Yeah i lived in a rural town and everyone nice

[@taliajade5273]

UK very hard to ride these days all paths gated off everywhere and police KTM 450s rolling round on random days so very hard in UK wales area especially

[@WiltshireByways]

Talia Jade I ride most weekends and have never had any problems with the police. Sometimes we stop and chat with each other.

[@taliajade5273]

Lucky for you then around me cars don't try anymore its the ktm 450,s gotta be careful off

[@grrrr....maritz6491]

So..... do you just ride around trolling people with your "map knowledge"? LOL

[@WiltshireByways]

No, and thankfully confrontations like this are very, very rare. I've had to take the time to learn where I can legally ride so it's likely that I can explain to someone a little bit about the trail if they wish to chat or take issue. That's not something that pedestrians have had to do, so the probability is that they know less about rights of way and the law than I do.

[@grrrr....maritz6491]

Good on you. Where we ride in South Africa you can get a mixed bag of landowners. Some don't have much issues having people use the roads etc if they behave and follow the basic rules by closing gates etc but some are extremely hardcore for a variety of reasons. Know of a few who have put up huge gates across public roads and complaining don't work.... Unfortunately there are always those who spoil it for others.

[@ComeAgainxjrider]

iv watched only 2 clips of this guys and that seems to be exactly what he does he rode past where the guy was looked in his direction then turned round and slowed right down where the guy was as if to get into a discussion

[@WiltshireByways]

There's 2,000+ videos of non-confrontations on my channel. I heard someone shout to me when I had to stop to open a gate and decided not to ignore them. Hardly looking for trouble.

[@jmsmilin]

WiltshireByways so whats in the chamber of secrets?

[@johnmcdyer7297]

Was that his hair or his hat

[@justsomeguy5063]

If he is deliberately blocking the byway it is illegal. *Public rights of way: landowner responsibilities* As the owner or occupier of land with a public right of way across it, you must keep the route visible and not obstruct or endanger users, These rules apply to agricultural or any other land. *Find out if there’s a public right of way on your land* Your local authority (national park authorities, county councils, some district councils, metropolitan boroughs or unitary authorities) will normally have a ‘definitive map’ of your area showing public rights of way. Definitive maps are a legal record of public rights of way in 4 categories: Footpaths, Bridleways, Restricted Byways, Byways open to all traffic (BOAT). *Keep public rights of way clear of obstructions* As the owner or occupier of land with a public right of way across it, you must: avoid putting obstructions on or across the route, such as permanent or temporary fences, walls, hedgerows, padlocked gates or barbed wire, make sure vegetation does not encroach onto the route from the sides or above, bearing in mind the different clearances needed for users of different types of route, for example by horse riders. Obstructing a public right of way is a criminal offence. The highway authority has the right to demand you remove any obstruction you cause. If you don’t, the highway authority can remove the obstruction and recover the cost from you. You must not disturb the surface of byways, restricted byways and unsurfaced public roads, eg: by cultivating. *Field-edge and cross-field public rights of way* You must not cultivate (eg plough) footpaths or bridleways that follow a field edge. The minimum width you need to keep undisturbed is: 1.5 metres for a field edge footpath, 3 metres for a field edge bridleway. You should avoid cultivating a cross-field footpath or bridleway. If you have to cultivate make sure the footpath or bridleway: remains apparent on the ground to at least the minimum width of 1 metre for a footpath or 2 metres for a bridleway, and is not obstructed by crops is restored to at least the minimum width so that it’s reasonably convenient to use within: 14 days of first being cultivated for that crop, 24 hours of any subsequent cultivation, unless a longer period has been agreed in advance in writing by the highway authority. *Waymarking and warning signs* If official waymarking leaves it unclear where a public right of way goes, you may add informal waymarks to remedy this so long as these are not misleading. You must indicate the route of a reinstated cross-field footpath or bridleway. If necessary, use signs to warn users of any dangers that are not obvious, such as slurry lagoons. Note that erecting misleading signs (such as signs about absent bulls) is an offence and local authorities have powers to remove them.

[@WiltshireByways]

Yes, it’s an obstruction pursuant to S130A of the Highways Act. Compelling a local authority to undertake their statutory duty is a much more tricky task to pin down.

[@RaZeCross]

Wtf... Am i allowed to use this for a angry people / road rage compilation? You will get full credit!

[@WiltshireByways]

Sure, up to 30 seconds no problem :)

[@MrFergusferret]

I'm sure I can hear a banjo playing in the background!!!!

[@marchofthelorex238]

There should be a law you have to keep your land in good condition and not damage nature with lots of junk.

[@fdx723]

good thing you know your stuff man you put him right in his place man

[@TheCrumble]

Handled brilliantly!

[@zy6656]

You handled that very well.it gos to show getting angry doesn't always help although I may have got annoyed with that old bloke

[@SNORKYMEDIA]

love how farmers always go on about saving the countryside but then treat it like a scrapyard

[@WiltshireByways]

He's a scrap metal dealer - there is no land or animals to farm.

[@timayla123]

I thought the title said, "Biker vs Death Star"

[@BaddaBigBoom]

This encounter seemed to be class/work ethic driven.

[@johjoh4571]

that was the coolest thing i've ever seen 0_0

[@chrissmith8460]

btw. who is raymon760? "Dirt Biker Stopped by Angry Land-owner by raymon760"

[@RoscoRide]

I've had an angry woman come running down her driveway while I was on my legal KTM 690 Enduro R and I was on a Dirt road. People assume dirt riders are out Raping and pillaging. Had it been a street bike going by her house that Beeotch would have stayed up at the house.

[@dankuspanku4650]

i thought it said "landmower/lawnmower" lol

[@easthantsXC]

I think he was embarrassed that you caught him wearing that hat.

[@GediSpock]

What I'm starting to realise is that there are some right tools fucking it up for everyone. I think this fella was happy that this biker was pleasant and knowledgable. Rather than the usual scrotes that tear arse round without a single fuck being given. The more encounters like these. The better. But sadly. It only takes one idiot to ruin it for everyone. Anyway. Well done sir.

[@thra5herxb12s]

Anything he's dumped on the right of way is Flytipping and is a criminal offence. It is also not his job to Police who uses this right of way. I wonder if he's still trying the same shit after a decade.

[@WiltshireByways]

Apparently it's no different. Wiltshire Council simply do not care.

[@widget3]

Well handled, I'm not surprised he doesn't want people down there with all that mess he's made.

[@schleusi01]

Just wondering, is that a hat or his real hairstyle?!

[@cornishrob123]

How british.

[@TheStupidestGenius]

English*

[@PillSharks]

What the fuck was on his head?

[@fivesfish]

Now you know where all the green belt goes!

[@billd390]

most civil disagreement ever.... lol

[@BioSqueky]

why does this remind me of monty python the holy grail hahaha

[@annmitchell4663]

Alex Barry WHAT IS YOUR FAVORITE COLOUR...😂

[@limasonil97]

This guy must love his maps

[@WiltshireByways]

I'm a really big map nerd - that I cannot deny.

[@lisaherring586]

who'd take the word of a guy who's got a dead rabbit on his head idk ..

[@svampae]

So polite to each other :D

[@markbarnetto]

I couldn't be bothered with the chew , I'd stick to the tarmac and have a road bike

[@chrissmith8460]

at least the land owner was prepared too listen and admitted he was wrong. but what a shit fight of a mess :|

[@_marcus_does_]

Like your style Jimmy

[@BigG3RM4N]

That's so funny how english people still sound respectful, even in this situation. :D In american english it would sound a lot more aggresiv i think :D

[@LinuxJedi]

lmao how many people thought he was wearing at omg XD XD

[@1Askaban]

Biker vs Landowner ? The title should mean : Biker vs.very sad and Lone Landowner XD ....

[@SoCalledFreeman]

In america they would get the guns out and cops would be called within 7 minutes after someones been shot

[@evojigger]

Bit low to go threatening him with the environment agency tbh.

[@frasercanyonballer]

well im a canadain rider ,and to me it looks like you were ridein through someones property,,,outa respect to the landowner i would avoid useing that trail,,,,didn't look like a public road ,,,,,,,,,but

[@WiltshireByways]

+frasercanyonballer It's actually the other way around. This is a public road which the 'land owner' is obstructing.

[@miketemple876]

That was a very angry truck

[@ridingwithmrP]

You would make a Great diplomat, top job

[@caferacerdan]

well played sir. well played!

[@MrGre8ness]

we have people like that in America, we call em horders ...

[@mkgroupuk]

dealth with like a boss

[@jaseee3x]

Great Videos mate.

[@Dan-zb7vn]

Another landowner who cares so much about the countryside that he turns it into a dumping ground for his rubbish, the council rubbish tip looks better than his property!

[@cgeller13]

British fights sound so polite

[@ASC63Funky]

these people are special

[@builderman912]

British people bickering is so funny!