Bill Belichick vs. Nick Saban: Who is the greater coach? Stephen A. ANSWERS 🗣️ | First Take

Bill Belichick vs. Nick Saban: Who is the greater coach? Stephen A. ANSWERS 🗣️ | First Take
The First Take crew reacts to the news of Bill Belichick and the New England Patriots agreeing to mutually part ways, along with Nick Saban retiring as head coach of the Alabama Crimson Tide.
0:00 Better coach?
6:21 Talking legacies
11:40 Saban stories
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[@Bilal_Aslam_]

You know it’s possible to respect people and what they accomplished without comparing them, right?

[@auburnmann3630]

It’s a sports debate show! For the sake of debate & competitive argument it’s a must.

[@kevothegoat9891]

@@auburnmann3630they made this debate up tho you nobody was talking about this they coached in two different leagues

[@tigerhoods7927]

Not with this stupid network

[@camgriffin414]

This is a sports debate show.

[@eric_uploads]

Was thinking same thing

[@salemworld86]

Out of all the great topics to talk about, they pick the dumbest one. How do you compare an NFL coach to a college coach? They're both the Greatest in their own lanes.

[@dman1069]

Probably Mollys topic lol

[@captainsilky5907]

Almost as dumb as the Tom vs Brady debate 😅

[@blackmist1981]

@@dman1069she doesn’t make the topics and she literally said it’s a difficult question. But I get it, it’s cool to hate Molly. And to be honest, f Molly, f SAS.

[@Ballardgeonte]

It is a good debate degree of difficulty. The apples to oranges thing don't always work but it's the same sport at least so I like it

[@glitbow7630]

Where’s bill Walsh?

[@dbrav727]

Saban also had the best recruits every year it’s not the same at all

[@bradd2400]

He's rhe reason for them having the best recruits though? Ability to recruit is definitely a talent, it's not like he enherited an elite program that was already bringing in the top recruits. He built that Alabama program up to how it is now

[@DoUEvenLift]

Recruiting is possibly the most important skill in college sports. So you actually just made the case for Saban lol

[@Nigel334]

He literally has to compete with 1000s of other schools to get those recruits. Also what doesn’t get said enough is how many 3 star recruits saban turned into 1st round talents. He gets the most out of his players, period

[@vandpgaming2103]

So? Bama was never at that level before he got there… They got to that point because of HIM. Look at michigan, just because you’re an elite program doesn’t mean you’re a perennial powerhouse recruiter. That’s all Saban.

[@jammuu]

Recruiting is similar to draft capability. Of course your ability to bring talent and select talent is a skill.

[@Z_Is_Me_Reacts]

Both goats respectfully

[@Eljefe86]

Can we just give them their flowers and just appreciate their body of work. Not even 48hr of both of them leaving and already started a pissing match about who is greater.

[@nicholaskatsikas4904]

Mina hit the nail on the head with the recency bias. Bill will only be fully appreciated once he retires.

[@user-nw6nf5uc5o]

You do know Belichicks record without Brady is 82-98. To help you math. That's a losing record. Saban won seven nattys with six different qbs while Belichick won all his SBs with Brady.

[@robertfoster6940]

​@user-nw6nf5uc5o look up Saban"s NFL record. Plus Saban came under Belichick. & Belichick orchestrated the 1980s Giants defense. Eberyone is caught in the prisoner of the moment

[@Burzum831]

@@user-nw6nf5uc5o it is way harder to win in the nfl than it is in cfb. But each are great in their own profession.

[@user-nw6nf5uc5o]

@@robertfoster6940 First, you seriously are trying to judge Saban on his only two years in the NFL as ahead coach. His record was 15-17. Belichick in his first FIVE years in Cleveland went 36-44, By the way he was fired. Probably shouldn't have brought that up, Also Probably shouldn't use DC argument, when talking about HC. Doesn't mean squat. Belichick won all his rings with Brady. Saban won all seven of his with six different qbs. That's coaching. .

[@robertfoster6940]

@user-nw6nf5uc5o college is not the NFL. There is s salary cap & clearly we see the NIL & portal have taken away an advantage from the top schools. Recency bias lol. Belichick will go down as the greatest hc. Can't compare to the NFL. And yeah the overall resume will assays come to play when we're nfuscussing the separation between the greats. Saban reloaded with the best talent. Belichick dud not have that advantage

[@user-lt1fx2he5s]

This is a dumb topic/debate because both are the GOAT of their profession

[@tigerhoods7927]

That’s espn for you 😂

[@bluethunder9102]

They both coach football they have the same profession

[@tjdastunna7563]

Lmao!! Nicki over Bill Belichick is crazy. He failed in the NFL when he couldn’t stack all the best players on 1 team. 🤣🤣

[@michaelmartin4230]

@tjdastunna7563 Bill Belichick never won without Tom Brady js

[@erowes1er]

@@michaelmartin4230Nick coached kids…. Huge disparity in college… Crack is bad..

[@tjdastunna7563]

@@michaelmartin4230 Boy you funny

[@Arcanenix]

You can’t stack the deck in the nfl like in college football.

[@JD-sy1ql]

@@michaelmartin4230Nick would never win like this in another school 😂 Alabama just had all the best players

[@de1738]

Best in College and Best in NFL… no comparison 🤔

[@tigerhoods7927]

lol this such a dumb topic but I expect it from a network who had Jordan and Tom Brady debate 😂😂

[@richygunter]

Saban had the best recruits every year. Bill actually had to outcoach teams to win.

[@user-nw6nf5uc5o]

Not really. He has a losing record without Brady. Where was all that great coaching then? What he had was the good fortune to have the GOAT QB, for several years.

[@guccitide5848]

Getting the best recruits made him the best.. part of coaching in college

[@hondoplays9461]

Unbelievable, not a single mention of the travesty that was Saban coaching in Miami

[@toniogreat]

Catastrophe 😂😂

[@kaylynalexander]

The stint was wayyyyyy too short

[@csharp3884]

Also, not a single comment about Spygate. Cheaters don’t belong in the HOF

[@mexia23]

They both great. what they both accomplish is hard and never will be done again..

[@RunesField]

Thanks for the free gems D.O. Most people have to be in your position to even soak some of those lessons up. I’m stealing all of them!

[@danielehiagwina]

Sorry SAS. You're wrong in this argument. College level football can't be compared to the NFL. You're just shoving away BB's greatness. All what you described Saban as, BB too had them all, especially in his case, he was coaching professional egos. Saban has done a wonderful, HoF job at Alabama. But that's college. The bottomline in the BB and TB argument is that: They complemented each other perfectly, and they both came together at the right time.

[@erictalbert4633]

I agree with Stephen A. For one Belicheck hasn’t won a Superbowl without Brady Saban gets great recruits but does win regardless with different players.

[@barrsteve7347]

Instead of a subjective question of who is the better coach, let's all celebrate the fact that we got to witness first-hand the GOATs in their respective fields. Love em or hate em, they both provided outstanding football.

[@thydevdom]

Saban has done it with all types of talent year after year. I think both are on eod the greatest

[@echo996]

all types of 5 star, 1st round draft talent...

[@markjackson6431]

@@echo996 you make it sound easy. and 5 star recruits is just a prediction on where they would be drafted. duhhhhh. you still have to develop that talent.

[@CSmoothh]

Relative to their level, you can say Saban is the greater coach, but if we're talking about overall, it's not even a discussion that the guy who succeeded at the higher level is the better coach. Especially when Saban was at the pro level and did not succeed

[@user-nw6nf5uc5o]

Saban was 17-15 in his first two and only years as NFL head coach. Belichick, on the other hand , went 20-28 his first three seasons with Cleveland and was fired after five seasons. Also, has a losing record, except when he had Brady at QB. He's also lost more games than any NFL coach in history. Doesn't exactly sound like a GOAT to me. Saban, on the other hand, has NEVER had a losing season. NEVER Belichick has had 8 losing seasons, with all of them being without Brady.

[@CSmoothh]

@@user-nw6nf5uc5o Saban said himself that he left Miami because of the instability of his quarterback situation. Figuring things like that out is part of being a good coach. A lil adversity and he went the easier route. In college he recruited the best talent so he usually had the upper hand week end and week out. In the NFL every team you face is equally as talented. Like you said Belichick struggled his first two seasons but the difference is that he faced the challenge and figured it out while Saban had a better first two seasons than Belichick and still left for college cuz he didn't have the confidence that he could overcome that situation. The difference in their mentalities tells you all you need to know

[@user-nw6nf5uc5o]

He wanted Brees and Miami blew it. You’re right he didn’t like having to depend in others for his success.

[@bamafan73191]

Saban didn’t succeed because the dolphins failed drew Bree’s on his physical….he comes to Miami he likely never goes to bama and wins multiple super bowls

[@carlosterrell9928]

Bellicheck is the better coach because he can’t have everyone he wants like a Alabama can, Patriots have to compete with other teams price wise to get a player also you can lose in the bowl game and still make the final 4 in football😭 Alabama also doesn’t have to face the best teams until the playoffs

[@user-nw6nf5uc5o]

Seriously? You do know Belichicks record without Brady is 82-98. To help you math. That's a losing record without Brady. Saban won seven nattys with six different qbs.

[@nationofdomination3618]

​@@user-nw6nf5uc5oyou didn't understand his point but that's ok

[@NoahKnows1]

If you can bring up the lack of success after Tom Brady for Belichick , do the same with Saban . Theres a reason he stayed at the collegiate level and didnt make it in the big league .

[@kevonsidek9737]

That’s a dumb take

[@NoahKnows1]

@@kevonsidek9737 It’s okay to be ignorant. In comparison, if you bring up one person’s struggles and only point out the other’s success how is your argument valid? As great as Saban was at Alabama, he was horrific in the NFL. Which also shows how hard it is to make it in the big league.

[@jmbama2008]

@@NoahKnows1well he wanted Drew Brees and they said no. Not his fault

[@NoahKnows1]

@@jmbama2008 And your point? He offered whoever he wanted to in college; the GMs in the NFL don’t always listen to what the head coaches want. Some college coaches’ style doesn’t always translate to the NFL and that’s okay, he’s the best college coach ever.

[@user-nw6nf5uc5o]

First, not just after Brady, but also before Brady. In fact Belichick has a losing record except for the Brady years. As for Saban, in his two years at Miami he went 17-15. He left on his own accord to coach at the premier cfb program in the country. Belichick in his first three years with Cleveland went 20-28. Oh, by the way, he was FIRED after five years at Cleveland.

[@DeaconGoss]

It's fascinating and coincidental that Belichick's one lone head coaching playoff win without Tom Brady came against... The Patriots. Almost 30 years ago. That game had me so negative 😕

[@datbul]

In a different clip from today Stephen A. said he "had no doubt" this was a mutual parting of ways. Now he's saying he believes Belichick wanted to stay but Mr. Kraft wanted him to leave 🤔

[@lionsroar1773]

It’s Bill, it’s easy to win nattys when you got 5 star recruits at 1st,2nd,3rd string at every position. furthermore, during the season, you may have 2-3 opponents who have a LEGITIMATE chance at beating you, the rest is usually a 20+ point blowout.

[@donleonard4446]

They could’ve talked about potential coaching hires for both team but naw let’s compare bc that makes total sense

[@Whizkidsoo]

11:04 dan speaking lil 💎s everywhere

[@dtickles]

Why does there need to be a comparison made? They both are top tier…

[@KingSebastian10]

I’m glad S.A. speaking the truth. All these other reporters or “insiders” that keep claiming it was mutual agreement is BS‼️ You don’t go in front of the world and tell them you’ll step down as GM but still want to coach the team to a few days later saying I want to leave. That man is getting up there in age he’s comfortable there and his whole family is there. To have to up n move or rent a home for a few years at that age they do not want to do. Stop the 🧢 n call it what it is.

[@tarnished8807]

ESPN can’t help themselves from having this type of conversation. They really aren’t comparable, NFL and College are 2 different beasts

[@datbul]

One thing Stephen A. not gon' do is cast any aspersions 😆😆😆

[@kelhall-pe4qs]

Let me just say that coaching at a professional level is just completely different and more challenging in my opinion Bill Belechiek is the Greatest coach of all time. And I’m a Browns fan….

[@user-nw6nf5uc5o]

More challenging.. Each year you pretty much have the same team from the year before. In college you have to replace a quarter of your starters every year. In pros you have players who have played college ball and already know how to play at a high level, In college, you get a class of high school players that have to be taught pretty much everything. In the pros, you can have one qb for years, like Brady, unlike in college where Saban won seven nattys with six different QBs. One last thought if Belichick is really the best, why does he have a losing record without Brady. If he's that good, he should have at least had a winning record with other qbs. Don't you think?

[@antoinerichardsonjr5844]

So college vs nfl Harbaugh brothers and now 2 of the greatest coaches to ever do it

[@shaheemtaylor960]

Interesting debate. Both pretty much did the same level of dominance just one did it in college the other in the NFL so it looks different.

[@SmittyCity15]

Yeahhh I’m gonna take the pro level, the hardest level to win on!

[@ronkent4006]

Bellicheck would have been nothing without Tom Brady

[@theamigo635]

Who cares who's better than who? One did it in college and the other did it at the pro level. Can we just take a moment to appreciate and celebrate what BOTH of these great coaches have done for the sport of football?

[@e.k.1215]

Such great perspectives from all! Nobody will ever do what Saban has done

[@FameTheRipper]

Both guys owe gratitude to the players they had to make their accomplishments possible....Bill dont win at all without Brady. Saban always had the top recruits.

[@BAMAMADEMG]

I rather just appreciate both instead of putting each other against each other

[@Xx-po1fu]

Saban was an average coach at Michigan State and LSU, when he wasn't getting the top high school players. At Alabama he signed 12 recruiting classes in his tenure as head coach at Alabama, seven of which have ranked No. 1 in the country. In college sports recruiting is more important than coaching.

[@bamafan73191]

Lmaoooo an “average” coach at LSU is possibly one of the most brain dead takes I’ve heard!! Do you not know how much of a graveyard LSU was in the 1990s?? They were a legitimate doormat year in and year out with only 3 BOWL APPEARANCES in 11 years!! It was a wasteland of mediocrity until 2000 when Saban got the job, and he took them to the NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP in 4 seasons, and also laid the foundation for Les Miles and others who succeeded him. LSU is relevant today because of him!

[@bigdripbobz1072]

Ppl here saying its a greater achievement and harder to coach in NFL because they face tougher opponents. But in the same breath, as a result of more quality experienced players, doesn't their job of controlling and improving the team and always performing to the best standards be easier in the NFL (at least compared to college kids who can get very unpredictable in their growth)? Belichick knew and probably had easier preparation to getting what he needed on his offense in Brady, Gronk, etc., whereas for Saban its not that case as he essentially is having to grow qbs each new year like a mac jones, tua, bryce young, jalen milroe from scratch, and can max play them at their college peak for a max of 1-2 yrs (as their freshman/sophomore yrs mainly goes as backups). This just feels like a nullified debate to have, because yes the NFL competition is WAY harder of course, but raising a team to meet the same standards in continuity is very hard in college, especially if you pick up the wrong prospects/star players on ur team transfer out for other opportunities (e.g., Hurts transferring from bama to OU). Its two different forms of greatness, just how you interpret which one is harder to do will get your nod. I'm guessing that ultimately this is the reason though why belichick would be the ultimate winner of this debate, many don't follow both college and professional levels to equal degrees, and cause differentiation for it through bias, and thus go with Belichick as a default answer due to lack of knowledge of cfb.

[@jadenmarshall9054]

At the end of the day Coaching in the NFL is harder than College and we all know who the better NFL coach is. Respect to both. Both are legends but Belichick is MY football GOAT!!!

[@dellowery]

Belichick: 8 Championships ( 6 Head [NE], 2 Assist[NYG] ) Saban 7 Championships ( 6 ALA / 1 LSU ) Next consideration: Strength of schedule *🖐️🎤*

[@guccitide5848]

Id say Saban is a bit better because he won them in less years

[@user-nw6nf5uc5o]

and with six different qbs and with two different schools.

[@moman36]

They coached in two different leagues what type of question is this

[@charleswilder7167]

Why is this even a question? Its Bill hands down, but Saban is definitely the GOAT in college.

[@LukaGreat98]

This makes no sense. You simply cannot compare a college coach to an NFL coach. Both are great in their own right. Simple as that.

[@brevontownes8655]

Can't celebrate one without the other because I believe both guys still want to coach, Saban doesn't want to deal with NIL and the transfer portal because now it's a level playing field 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@dennis2782]

Let's not every Forget Adam Vinatieri !!! Look at his playoff last minute wins!!!!

[@xuexxiong]

Apples to Oranges right here

[@user-gx3ge1es4x]

What? Bill did it without having a "superstar" quarterback, and Tom Brady went on to become the greatest quarterback every? That statement made absolutely no sense.

[@danieljoyce4015]

Are you serious? Coaching in the NFL and coaching men. Is WAY harder than coaching college kids. Especially the best ones every year

[@brettt141]

Hows is that even a questions lol. Saban is like if Bill signed the best players in the NFL every offseason. NFL>NCAA

[@jackie2joints248]

Pats Parade was awesome! T.i.t.s T**s T**s!!!

[@tiyalewhitehurst338]

Notice how Saban Retired and Belichick got Fired

[@10000liverpool]

Bill drafted Brady but Brady created Bill's legacy as a coach. Brady convinced players to play for Bill

[@killahswagg446]

That fact that the last 10 videos are all about bill is crazy just make a full segment & put them all together for one category instead of dropping multiple videos of the same thing with just different debaters

[@SirGenesis206]

Why are we comparing these two? They retired 2 seconds ago and coach two VERY different types of football.

[@Itz_Crawfish]

Y'all know he gonna say Saban lol.

[@mile215]

It's crazy I was coming to the comment section to say what everyone else is already saying why in the heck did ESPN have to make this discussion today why not just talk about both of their greatness. First take you should have read the room nobody wants to hear about this today.

[@lolripalex]

Saban had such a lock on recruitmen… Any time I see an NFL player & don’t know where they went to college, it’s most likely bama 😂

[@KBillysSoundsOfThe70s-iz3op]

Great comment i agree 100%

[@dodgerssuck6983]

It's Bill

[@oswinhull4203]

NFL is a different game. You have the top 1% of athletes. The difference in talent between teams is miniscule in the NFL compared to the NCAA. Also you have the salary cap and draft. You can't even compare a college coach to an NFL coach.

[@davidhall3530]

I don’t like how they call Robert Kraft, Mr. Kraft and they don’t show Jerry Jones the same respect I’ve never heard anyone say Mr. Jones. I’m not a Cowboys fan, but Jerry Jones has never been on the news for breaking the law but yet you show Robbie craft the respect and not Jerry Jones, it’s crazy to me

[@bucketgetterjr4810]

Comparing NCAA to NFL is crazy😂😂

[@dylana.601]

And they wonder why players and coaches hate the media..

[@hollistaylor9696]

How bout we just appreciate the great careers both had and leave it at that 😒

[@hunter702lv]

Saban had an nfl coaching career we can look at… it’s Belichick and I’m a Dolphins fan.

[@trizzgreenery]

College and the nfl is 2 different beast the question is would nick have had the career in the nfl such as bill

[@Brandon-qd2lb]

He was average in the NFL so doubt it.

[@nostoneunturned7641]

Did anyone expect SAS to not pick Saban? 😂 Dude's obsessed with alabay

[@burls7117]

I’m Roll Tide till I die, but this seems like a fairly easy answer. Belicheck. Itd be more of a debate if Bill didn’t win 6 titles in the NFL 😆.

[@markjackson6431]

give Nick Saban, Drew Brees and he’d have 2 or 3 Super Bowls i’d go as far to say if Nick Saban got Tom Brady, he’d win the same amount of championships as Belichick

[@Jerry823Coates]

Bill was the best coach off course cause he coached in the best most complicated league..... now measuring achievments its probably a tie or Saban slightly

[@anotherscratchoffwin8680]

Lol Saban finish 15-17 with Dolphins then bolt to College Football then want to compare him with an NFL Great Coach Cmon man!!!

[@cloak_177]

ESPN First Take producers are sick in the head man. 2 of the greatest coaches in the history of Football retire in 24 hours and instead of celebrating them, the first thing they think off is comparing their legacies and debating who is greater. That is not journalism, that is flat out laziness and being destasteful.

[@universe-ie2mk]

You cant debate a college coach to a pro coach ever and its idiotic to think so. Its like comparing john wooden to phil jackson.

[@alexevanoski4588]

College is so much easier. You can recruit the incoming 2024 nfl draft class like you can high school kids. That being said they both are great and the great of all time in their perspective sports. Not everything has to be a debate. I hate these shows and what they did to sports. Low hanging fruit.

[@amranSK55]

Imagine coach Bill getting the top 10 picks in every draft !!! That's what coach Saban has been working with. That's not to take anything from him, but coach Bill succeeded more with less. It's leagues between both imo.

[@MrChase-]

Belichick is negative without Brady. Saban was positive with every roster. I think it is pretty clear cut.

[@AccumulationNation1]

Bodies arent even cold yet...

[@shaquilleking904]

Why is this a debate

Both, no need to compare.

[@bradd2400]

Yall hold it against saban that he always had the best recruits like thats some kinda bad thing? Hes the reason they had the recruits, recruiting is a huge part of a college coaches ability.

[@Leon-vl4pv]

I agree that it is Bill Belichik that is the greatest coach cause I remember Nick Saban coaching in the NFL and did not succeed and went back to college coaching.

[@lionelsheja6381]

Saban also had a multitude of 5 ⭐ recruits backing up 5 ⭐ recruits. Bill Belichick is the better coach.

[@youthinkyouknowme5551]

If they had a Green Shirt,Orange Shirt, Purple Shirt rule where a QB can play in College for 10 years Saban would have won 10 Straight NCAA Championships if he had a young Brady. Belichick on the other hand is a colossal disaster without #12 before New England and after Brady left in New England A young Brady was 19-4 in College on a Wolverine team that lost 33 players Brady's first year starting. Citrus Bowl and Orange Bowl winner in 2 seasons as a starter at Michigan where the Wolverines had no business winning . Belichick has a horrendous *.437 Win%* in 140 games without Brady..

[@salvadormercado1428]

It’s bill by a mile, bill did it at the highest level possible, saban did it by recruiting whoever he wants, and his titles are heavily dependent on old dudes voting them worthy to be in CPF

[@mr.kountrynboujee9228]

So Tom Brady and bill are Michael Jordan and Scottie pippin

[@mrgood6475]

Why, I mean WHY? Does Molly even talk ? Seriously

[@kylejoseph8941]

College and nfl are too different, one youre recruiting young men the other youre paying young adults with a cap on how much you can spend each year

[@highrise8738]

Lmaoooo they managed to wait a few hours before they started comparing careers of two great individuals. Maybe next they'll compare which Space Jam was the better movie.

[@iTzShiiFT]

Imagine if bill had the most overpowered roster year after year lmao I could prob coach Alabama to atleast a few wins

[@marloningram0102]

This shouldn't even be asked this shouldn't even be a conversation one was a Heaven of a pro coach🏈 one was a Heaven of a college coach🏈 point blank case closed. it doesn't even matter cuz they were in two different leagues one was a pro coach and one a college coach to be truthful they both were great. ✍🏾👏🏾🏈🏈🏈🏈💯

[@benjaminflores9254]

i think its belicheck year in and out saban had the best rosters in all of CF while belicheck had to go through the draft process and build his dynasty not buy with money

[@bray2079]

You act like the teams in the conference didn’t recruit as well. Saban also depended on younger players more than other coaches cause most of his players went pro as soon as they were eligible. You also add in the fact that he was replacing coordinators almost every year or two.

[@RTillery100]

You can make an argument for pete carrol he won the big dance in college and the nfl

[@thenealfamily5]

I’m glad you saw Nick as a man of his word, Don Shula saw him as a whinny crybaby! 😂😂😂

[@johnnywashington8270]

Winning a Super Bowl is the hardest thing to do in sports so SAS you need to stop it

[@nsd_respect]

SAS glazing Saban because he sat in his office once. Bill is the better coach

[@kendog8788]

Belichick kept all the right pieces around Brady on a higher level better competition

[@robd1811]

i hate when non college football people say "such and such coach had better players than 90% of opponents they played" IT IS THE COACHES JOB TO GET THE PLAYERS ON THE ROSTER WITHOUT THE COACH THEY WOULDN'T BE THERE if anything it adds to the greatness of whatever coach you are talking about whether it is the coaches that stacked miami 30 and 40 years ago or nick at bama and LSU or kirby at Georgia it is the coaches job RECRUIT OR DIE as they say

[@luckbrown1952]

Steven A your not making a point in this take .. Everyone knew it was time for Bill or the patriots to move on after this year but as a coach Bill is a Great coach and he will definitely be coaching as a head coach until he’s ready to retire!

[@Fultonfalcons86]

They both are great in their own right now stop using them as talking point