Bill Gross on His Asperger's Diagnosis and its Advantages

Mar.01 -- Even after one of the most storied careers in financial markets, Bill Gross has a few surprises left. Bill Gross, portfolio manager at Janus Henderson Group spoke with Bloomberg's Erik Schatzker in Newport Beach, California, about being diagnosed with Asperger's syndrome, the autism-spectrum disorder, politics and if there will be another bond market king.

[@adarshvarma3524]

This man has healed my bitterness. I have always been named the "weird, retarded kid" throughout my school life. The constant bullying and ridicule shattered my self confidence, and I grew more doubtful of myself following my diagnosis of ASD. Today, I am viewing it as my strength, and I am excelling.

[@anaguerrerosholisticwellbe2788]

I didn't find out until I was nearly 40 and I'm very glad I wasn't diagnosed as a child as I think it would have damaged me by thinking there's something different/wrong about me. I knew I was different but the way I relieved myself from such distance (from the others around me) was to think that everyone is different in their own right. I normalised my rarities for myself. Then, when I found out, EVERYTHING made sense.

[@brandonpaavola5634]

Thats excellent. Keep moving forward, progress no matter how small is always progress. Use the naysayers and doubters as fuel for your success. Remember what conan the barbarian said... Mongol General: Conan, What is best in life? Conan: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women. Mongol General: That is good! That is good.

[@SunofYork]

@@brandonpaavola5634 Trouble is you aren't Conan and couldn't crush an over-ripe plum

[@Trahzy]

Except now "we can't call it aspergers because Hans Asperger was a nazi" when in reality he wasn't, at all. He discovered the condition and helped people with it reach their potential.

[@SunofYork]

@@Trahzy For full disclosure, what are your politics ? Mine are hugely anti fascist/nazi, but I am against "Guilt by association"

[@Mnnyquintero]

Being autistic is not such a taboo anymore, many people develop abnormal behaviors which can be controlled and taken advantage for. I admire gross for his courage to admit this

[@brianisme6498]

Manny Quintero ya that’s true with the exception of high school, there are a lot of judgemental kids in high school when it comes to ASD

[@acamiln8354]

Everything is normal today, do not worry.

[@SilkyPud]

It is, just ignored

[@nataliegrayhandle]

I'm also a computer scientist Major

[@remasteredretropcgames3312]

Send elite autistic modders to my interstellar space vessel.

[@billwaterson9492]

Man, not to detract from the wonder of Bill, but Erik is on point as a host. Hes got an honest interest in the interview. Very well done.

[@pinchebruha405]

Right we must acknowledge our best journalists!!!!

[@blackbeard6423]

Fascinating - I think the interviewer did a particularly good job here. He was gentle around a sensitive and emotional subject for Bill Gross and many of us living with Asperger's, myself included.

[@FAA-DPE]

Only found out i have it at 54 years old. Sure explained so much. If only my parents and teachers would have know this when i was in first grade and utterly terrified and completely shut down.

[@thesum3312]

I'll translate "if only an adult had thrown enough attention my way, with some intuition, and care"... They're only human dude

[@peterrudden7550]

Brilliantly modest and honest. A genuine and wonderful gracious interview. So pleased I found it.

[@abrahamgomez653]

I live alone and I am a loner all my life. I have a mild case of Asperger's. I think it has helped me have alot of insight and intuition.

[@JohnDoe-ef3wo]

Same here

[@rustyyoung7980]

Want to connect or start a Discord or something? I'd love to be able to chat with you two / the others. I scored 60/100 on the AQ test myself (which I would moreso classify as also mild Aspergers. I would love to get to know others who have the same amazing feats / technicalities / otherwise (just found out recently through another accquaintance of mine, Ryan, really awesome dude, Captain and Minister, good heart and used to be a semi-professional marathoner).

[@brandoncooper4680]

I used to be bitter about it when I was younger, and now I love living alone as an aspie. I couldn't go back to living with other people for anything. I just embrace my differences now.

[@rustyyoung7980]

@@brandoncooper4680 Love it. Me too. Congratulations. What do you do for work, if you don't mind me asking, of course?

[@brandoncooper4680]

@@rustyyoung7980 I don't mind at all. I was an aircraft engine mechanic in the military. I'm retired now.

[@charlestonalencar8607]

Congratulations to talk about asperger . 👏👏

[@Duncangafney1]

It was pretty much never diagnosed pre about 1990-95. I found out I was at age 44 in 2015. Never had a clue before then, but by god it explains a lot about my life.

[@YufaNezumi]

Diagnosed at 26 here, but I feel the same. I have had severe mental issues since the age of 6. Everyone blamed it on childhood trauma, and as I grew older they tried to diagnose me with borderline and I’ve been in an out of the psych ward since coming of age because my anxiety get so bad at times that I’m a danger to myself and all that. People thinking I was attention seeking and had behavioral problems when really, I was constantly confused, overstimulated and anxious. I have so much brain damage done to me because of all the burnouts and medicines I don’t think I’ll ever be able to work full-time. Getting my diagnosis was a relief, but still being young but already damaged makes me sad that I couldn’t get it sooner. With that said, imagine all the people lock up in mental hospitals in the mid century, when in fact they were maybe just autistic. Cannot do anything else but grieve... Life really is cruel and unfair. I hope you diagnosis somehow made your life better though ❤️

[@Duncangafney1]

@@YufaNezumi Sorry to hear you had such a bad time :( Yes it has helped, not because it's changed anything about the world, but it's helped my understand myself far better. Also it's helped me understand and look into why normal people have the emotional reactions they do, which have always previously baffled me. It doesn't mean I now understand why they have those reactions, but it does mean I can predict them and anticipate them far better and "work around" the issues that would crop up, if I didn't know they would react the way they do. In relation to yourself, don't do yourself down, yes what's happened to you may leave lasting effects, but most things you can work around, it's about about understanding yourself better and learning how to be a better version of you. I've realised over the last few years that there is one key requirement to happiness and that is in liking yourself. Only when you like yourself can you ever truly be happy. But in order to like yourself, you first have to accept yourself, both physically and mentally. Only then can you work out how you feel about yourself and only then can you either accept an aspect of yourself as immutable, or work to change things. Hope you find your own best self :)

[@somexp12]

It was *never* formally diagnosed pre-1994. It wasn't "pretty much never"; it was never (except 94 and 95). It was added as a condition in 1994 and removed in 2013 (with an equivalent condition, ASD, taking its place). The closest you could get in 1993 was classic autism or childhood onset pervasive developmental disorder, and both were considered rare with the first requiring a speech delay. If, however, you have the speech delay, this disqualifies you from aspergers. So, only COPDD got close prior to 1994, and this was assumed rare.

[@OwenPrescott]

Same for me at 30, someone planted a seed at work when they was talking about a person with autism. What they was describing made me feel like they was talking about me, that's when I started researching what it is and came to the realisation.

[@andrewheydt577]

i was diagnosed in 2003 at the time i didnt know what the hell it was

[@ScribblebytesWorldwide]

I never used to talk about my Asperger's, only now since starting my channel I've been comfortable touching on it. I thought it was a strange thing, but now I understand its importance as we evolve. NTs have ruined the world, time for us to fix it.

[@remasteredretropcgames3312]

Help me make Retro Great Again with your advanced overgrowth of specific lobe bandwidth.

[@YesitisDex]

Where's your channel???

[@rustyyoung7980]

Yeah, generalized channel or is it special interest-involved, or? We'd be interested to know...

[@williamoarlock8634]

Bullshit.

[@supaipai420]

I was diagnosed with ADD/ADHD and Dyslexia when I was a kid and was in Special Education all of my school years, but never felt like I belonged there. Now that I am 32 I find myself not being able to keep the jobs I get ether from being to slow, missing social ques, being misunderstood, people not liking me or they are afraid of myself or my Smarts getting myself in trouble. It's been so hard for myself that there are days I feel like giving up and putting the monopoly board away. I know i am on the Autistic Spectrum and the only thing i know i can do is get the paper work together so I can get a safety net so I don't end up on the streets at this point. I consider myself a hard worker and on time but those things I think don't matter anymore. The best thing I can do is continue to work on my own business and keep investing when I can and pushing that as far as i can go! I feel like Elon Musk when he talked about no one would give him a job or hire him.

[@justbored5222]

Same

[@orbitmouf]

Yeah, I have a friend in a similar situation. It explains a lot about him he didn’t get before.

[@kovacs2378]

hang in there supaipai

[@DavidJGlad]

Best advice is to find what drives your ambition and push hard on that.. at least it worked for me. Even if that elusive success for the longest time appeared impossible, such that people sure were right to say I was wasting my time. Until everything began moving in my favor and I just began really building from there.

[@Super6-1FX]

I was thought to have this diagnosis also. Which led me to also being in special education. I was never in class with any of my friends. I was in class with people who drooled all over themselves, wheelchairs an all, it was very embarrassing. I remember one of my classrooms being yellow walled. I remember waiting for everyone to go into their class after break before entering my classroom. The highlight of my education was middle school, I had a lot of friends, and was one of the cutest guys in school. Girls 2 grades above me were trying to snatch me up. You could say I'm a Top G in that way (I'm joking). I ended up getting caught with weed in high school, which led to my expulsion. From there I went to a special school that would give me a packet of work to do, it was awesome, I only had to go to school once a week. Today I find people to be very flip floppy and disingenuous. I don't like people pleasers. They seem phony. I might have another diagnosis.

[@robertfeinberg748]

I'm glad to hear of a fellow Asperger.

[@livingwithdisabilityhealing]

Oh my goodness !!! I absolutely love how he described Asperger's not from the textbook ...from his own personality and character he developed and Built, through life , without knowing that he had Asperger's. Freaking Awesome!!!!

[@aGuyNamedEr1c]

He has a great perspective. I just figured it out not terribly long ago at the age of 40. I'm kinda glad I didn't know before. I think I'd have leaned on it too much as a crutch and excuse to stay in my comfort zone. At the same time, I'm glad I finally figured out the puzzle of me. Everything makes more sense now, am less critical of myself, and in turn have less anxiety in general.

[@Medietos]

Restoration S o S Monica: Did you get /need professional help , personal assistence, or have you managed to live a normal life of work and love relationship/family? With CPTSD as well, one can get so badly abused by the ones who should provide personal assistence. i seem to be seen as evil when I - after 20 years searching in health care got sleeplessness by them, constant stress and overwork trying to understand, process, learn, fit in, get help, got more critical and angry hyper-vigilant from all the abuse and isolation. Only in order to make myself clear, point out the urgency, try to get respected/heard/help when politeness and patience didn't help (have severe stress-caused autoimmune disease too., that needs help since 40 years). Ideas, please? Thanks if you do. I couldn't stop the abuse and they don't follow the law or their own rules, but behave machiavellian/ psychopatic-like, and there has come some reversed racism. I so want help to get to sleep, thrive and start living, not die prematurly unnecessarily. Educated, active, responsible, empathic, gifted. Too co-dependent from trauma though. Take care of yourself.

[@tonysketch]

You hit it on the nose with a Hammer. I just now figured it out I'm 28

[@gregorygarcia7807]

it is much easier to except my own fault, go along to get along, than to say society is crazy with it's preditory capitalism

[@thestockfother]

If i may ask, what is the process one goes through to determine this? Asking for myself

[@tedsterrett7204]

It's good to see that you are doing well Mr. Gross sir! You have a lot of us praying for you! Thank you for being a source of inspiration and blessing to many... God Bless you!

[@stuomsen5094]

Bill Gross is amazing! So much respect.

[@DanS8204]

What an excellent interview! Bill Gross, you are courageous, and you are wonderfully enlightening!

[@marionmoon5152]

Very interesting to know more about Aspergers as my grandchild has it.

[@pootersnacks]

I'm 44 and i learned today that this is why my life has been so unusual but wonderful at the same time .. I am not sure where to go from here but it feels so good to know what this is.

[@bernardlunn464]

What a great interview by both of them!

[@connorgoss7489]

Proud to have the condition myself!!

[@john-danson3113]

Gross used knowledge from 6 heroes and applied one moral judgement kingpin. Bill re-created the modern Bond market from nothing at Pacific Life in the late 60's. A true hero of applied financial research. His condition allowed him to monitor markets for patterns. The wealthy were always grateful for their annual 5%. A shame the market volatility ruined the efficacy of the formulas. I was there for a month at Pimco when he was still around, a very robotic company, which had outgrown Bill's vision. It was a great pleasure to see a hero face to face.

[@hybrid6692]

I have aspergers and i focus on the good bits , control as best i can the worst bits, try not to bore people too much with my interests and "i know i'm right about this" which comes out too strong when i know i'm right about something. I'm always aware of the no eye contact thing so i go the extreme and make good long eye contact and probably freak the other person out lol

[@ruready705]

Haha you sound like me I do the long eye contact Thing 2 I think I freak people out

[@ruready705]

Also

[@metabel]

You made ma laugh so loud because I've realized that happens to me too! Once I became aware of it, I also practice longer eye contact, and people really tends to freak out! It's just a matter of practice.

[@macandfire5477]

I’m constantly trying to keep my mouth shut once I get started on something I like to talk about 😂

[@EricMeatlikeaking]

thank you bill. you are very brave to make this video

[@lorishu48103]

Living in multiple different universes = So true

[@bumblebaa2327]

and enjoying (y)our marvelous mind. Without guilt or modesty.

[@myleghurts3546]

"You are not your best witness." Very true! You see you, you recognize you, there's a screen between you and your witness...and this screen is the others around you.

[@judykaymacgreagor4422]

Aspergers really explains me. Hallelujah. Thanks for educating me.

[@mattiaswidegren2242]

I'm saving this to one of my playlists...

[@dx5soundlabs939]

in my experience, having asperger's gave me a unique ability to spot patterns and correlations in numbers, and that has paid dividends beyond belief in my investing strategies...i see and conceptualize numbers in a way most people don't, so while it's definitely true that not all people with asperger's are going to be savants, there are definitely advantages that one can see from the different perspectives asperger's people can offer...

[@lorishu48103]

The patterns I see are in linguistics which isn’t as lucrative

[@Phoenix-tq8lt]

In general we are good at patternizing everything

[@LR-mh8hs]

@@Phoenix-tq8lt That explains a lot about our son and his gift in maths. Does that also explain his inability to show or care for affection? Please advise. I'd like to learn from first hand experience. Thank you.

[@paranoidhumanoid]

It could be if you're interested in large language models (AI). @@lorishu48103

[@m.hartyfool]

Wonderful interview. Thank you for sharing.

[@JD-pj1hx]

Can fully relate to him. It can be an advantage depending on how you leverage the characteristics he talks about.

[@user-uq6nq3vd5g]

Thank you for coming out with this information. I found out late too❤

[@thedarknight5714]

7:36 Damn I laugh in the same exact way and I also have Asperger's. This is sort of hilarious.

[@rustyyoung7980]

Bruh

[@gg-lc5of]

my daughter has asperger and I do think my mother, brother and I has the same condition. This is a good interview

[@LR-mh8hs]

How old is your daughter and when was she diagnosed? We are trying to figure out if our 21 yo son has Asperger or is just being a typical youth. He became totally unaffectionate and unloving when he hit the teen years. He has a peculiar habit of wrapping, also started Iduring the teen years, his arm around his plate, with his hand folded in a fist, when eating. I've never seen that in anyone. He's extremely intelligent and graduated with honors but refused to go to college. I think he feels uncomfortable around new people. He also refuses to go to therapy to deal with his screen addiction.

[@emotran]

Thanks for this

[@westinnewman3572]

Interesting. I think many successful people probably had conditions similar that simply went unnoticed in years prior.

[@connorgoss7489]

Westin Newman Einstein, Mozart, Michael Angelo, Rafael

[@earlwoodland8216]

Isaac Newton, Benjamin Banneker

[@chocolatier9597]

Warren Buffett, Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos

[@emilyweaveroffical]

Same reaction I got when it clicked for me and I read the list to my husband. Zero hesitation.

[@tinoco431]

Im proud too. I thank God for my gifts and glad that my setbacks are not as huge as other's have.

[@YufaNezumi]

Notice how he starts stubble on the words when speaking while having eye contact and starts to flicker when he loses the words or have to think trough the answer. I really noticed this because I do the same. I can have a eye contact when talking about something that I’ve been talking about a million times and it’s becomes like a script. But when I speak to someone more organically, I flicker a lot with where to focus my eyes because thinking what to say and look someone in the eyes at the same time is physically impossible hahah. The host though has stable eye contact throughout the whole interview.

[@readifdumb]

I have to look away to gather my thoughts. Eye contact is not something I need to have a conversation as people with Aspergers lack cognitive empathy, so trying to fully gather emotions from facial expressions and arm movement is never gonna be fully accurate unless exaggerated. I do much better just listening to vocal tone and speech patterns, but I understand it is uncomfortable for someone to not have eye contact so I force it, but this can distract me from what I’m saying due to the extra effort mentally it requires to engage eye contact. Even if I understand what someone is going through and why they are emotional, the lack of cognitive empathy makes it hard to have sympathy that isn’t expressively faked. I do feel emotional, depressed, happy, sad, etc. but I find that I have to be invested emotionally in what I’m reacting to. I find films much easier to get an emotional reaction out of that I sad because the music, tone, expressions are much easier to communicate the feeling to me. I find music actually makes me feel more than expressions do weirdly enough.

[@ensar2805]

@@readifdumb people with aspergers lack cognitive empathy? What does that mean?

[@readifdumb]

@@ensar2805 It means understanding what someones feeling at a cognitive level is a lot harder. In general it's harder to relate/put yourself in others shoes. It can lead to really distant feelings when a senstive topic is brough up. This doesn't mean they don't have emotional empathy, or even a really strong emotional empathy. It just means that communicating emotions is a lot harder.

[@ensar2805]

@@readifdumb i see. I interpreterd it as having no emotional empathy. My apologies. I take things extremely literal my entire life due to my asperger

[@readifdumb]

@@ensar2805 Haha dw, I can relate.

[@kylesmithisawesome]

I relate to his mannerisms so much LOL

[@rustyyoung7980]

Same, dude. Are we us??

[@Sixty_Five_Pronghorn]

@@rustyyoung7980 are you me?

[@rustyyoung7980]

@@Sixty_Five_Pronghorn We.

[@abrahamgomez653]

You can control Asperger's I believe I always had it since I was a kid. I still have problems looking people in the eye.

[@sootuckchoong7077]

I was examined to be an aspie at age 50. But I'm not so sensitive to light or sound as other aspires are, so I do not know if its true. I'm a Lone Ranger, and I hated it, tho I can easily cope being alone. I mean I like making friends, but I can never achieve it. I like to improvise things, and I have my bosses quite impressed because I'm actually in the low paying position, yet I can help even more.

[@Yep6803]

aspergers CAN and CANNOT be(there's no standard since it is a cluster): -stand alone stereotype(me) -npd(me) -borderline -bipolar -not any of this

[@leggocrewtv2052]

Not all heavy indeed , inspirational

[@jaydowns2448]

So yeah can definitely detect it in your voice which for me I'm always changing my pitch and sounds in my vocal box which got me thinking about a operation on the vocals by a Dr in Japan so it was not noticed

[@abrahamgomez653]

I don't look at people in the eye alot either. A military physical examiner pointed it out to me when I was 18 years old.

[@tippersimracing6070]

I have Aspergers Syndrome ASD, many Aspies can live a normal life and some are successful in the careers theh choose. Im a Honours Software Engineer student and despite high school being dreadful, felt the area is my strength. Bill Gross has similar traits too me. Feel sorry that he had a divorce, hope he is coping well from it.

[@LR-mh8hs]

Please advise: Is being unaffectionate a sign of Asperger?

[@tippersimracing6070]

@@LR-mh8hs Not really, remember all people on the Autism spectrum have different traits.

[@jasonjasper4]

Bill is a beast

[@ronaldmcdonald8303]

The 3 biggest myths surrounding Asperger's people is 1, it's a disability, 2 we don't socialise and 3 were strange. Yeah, I am a little peculiar sometimes. Many things "normal" people do perplex me, such as abusing alcohol, smoking and other illogical things people do to themselves. As far as I am concerned asperges are logical people in an alternate way. I look just like any other man and I have made a few new friends in the past 10 years, GOOD ones too! I am not disabled nor am I leaning disabled! I used to be an angry young man because of the abuses I have suffered, eg going to special needs schools and college, when I wanted to go to mainstream! People can be awful condescending and treat you like you as stupid as shit! I do not gloat about myself because those that have to gloat are insecure with their abilities and don't accept when their wrong. When I meat smart people, I'm not threatened I see it as an opportunity to learn, no-one is 100% perfect and yes, I DO have a sense of humour! Not all Asperger's are nice people by the way, I'm not trying to say I am superior or that people with Asperger's are somehow better people, you get some people with autism who are horrible, luckily enough I am not one of those people. People always say how childish I am, but I see things in others myself that I find strange, when was the last time I cut myself or came how steaming drunk? NEVER!!!!

[@rjjohn2241]

Speak for your self many of us who weren’t diagnosed until late use/ used substances like alcohol as a means to cope … consider your self lucky you haven’t had to deal with addiction on top of Aspergers

[@ronaldmcdonald8303]

@@rjjohn2241 I haven't got an addictive personality, but your right. I am lucky I don't engage in those behaviours. I'm mildly gifted anyway, if I had been given a fair chance I could have been a top scorer at school. I've only got 5 GCSE's 4 B's and a C! I do have 3 core subjects, but that's it. I know some people would consider that good, and their right, but I'm capable of much more. But I do have the state standard regardless but I'm capable of so much more! I have a dark sense of humour and it hasn't always been received kindly by some, I don't say this about myself, other people complain that I like darker things and laugh at inappropriate stuff. People find my humour "concerning!" I'm certainly not dangerous, I just appreciate more close to the bone things or things others think shouldn't be made fun of. When I was young I was always been told off for laughing at certain things others just found disturbing!

[@LR-mh8hs]

Question: As a person with Asperger, did you find it difficult showing affection, like to family, parents, etc? Asking for a "friend" who's struggling with 21 year old male son not showing any love or affection.

[@ronaldmcdonald8303]

@@LR-mh8hs Not really, I showed a lot of love to family and friends. I had a rabbit as a teen that I adored!!!!

[@ronaldmcdonald8303]

@@LR-mh8hs Maybe get him a pet? Keep him busy so he doesn't get depressed. I'm not sure how I can help you, but I'll try my best! ( :

[@SteviePaints]

I wish they wouldn't refer to Asperger's as an "affliction" or a disease. My husband has Asperger's, he is highly intelligent and successful; and the fact that he has Asperger's is what has contributed to that. He is a very successful software developer and electrical engineer, and his Asperger's has enabled the singular focus required to do that kind of work. I see Asperger's not as any affliction, but just a different wiring of the brain.

[@justinator]

What a great interviewer

[@anthonygreenfield123]

Yeah very patient and respectful

[@WorshipDaKing]

im still thinks if if i should get checked

[@warriormanmaxx8991]

@Worship Da King - re: "im still thinks..." Two years has gone by, have you "still thinking if if i should get checked?!?" From the way you write, along with your name handle ... the answer is ... YES!!

[@Turglayfopa]

"You are not your best witness when trying to figure out whether something is affecting you or not"

[@robertwnorrisii9143]

How do you manage bond duration portfolio across summer months?

[@robertwnorrisii9143]

I can relate to escentrate behavior; however, it's not manic."

[@DavedSitt]

I’m 25, not diagnosed yet, but god I’ve been reading the experiences in these comments and I think I definitely have it

[@chocolatier9597]

What symptoms do you have?

[@margitjona3607]

Szeretnék magyar feliratot ha lehet. Hálásan köszönöm. 🙏❤️

[@billram1604]

Any of you know if a CT scan can detect this condition? especially when it can not be determined within a consultaion.

[@incisive2641]

It cannot.

[@ensar2805]

@@incisive2641 it can

[@danadavis3647]

I recommend looking into Brain SPECT scanning. Dr. Amen. Amen clinics are nationwide in America

[@boursitocard]

good video

[@abrahamgomez653]

I also struggled to socialize especially with girls.

[@michaelcollins7378]

I’m happy I’m only 27 and found out

[@BiGAAAAAAAAAALLLLL]

does anyone know what the 10 'signs' of Asperger's are in the book?

[@davidrojas4687]

I find funny that the conversation of: I think I have autism -We know - Why didn't you tell me? happens to all of us in the exact same way regardless of age

[@Yhs93]

what was the book called of michael lewis?

[@rustyyoung7980]

The Big Short

[@towzone]

People with this condition do better at many things except getting along with people who do not think.

[@JimmyJaxJellyStax]

Wow ma man is Asperger's for sure here, and so I am - 100% seeing his coping mechanisms here

[@JimmyJaxJellyStax]

ma ex wife... or 3 lol

[@zacharytrinagli4089]

I was just recently told by 7 people that just met me in the last year that I have A S HFA With my background in. Science technology engineering mathematics work

[@CW19941]

Most autistic people are not really any different than other people. They may think differently, but that doesn't mean they are "slow". I've been meaning to get a diagnosis myself. It would explain a lot if things.

[@stanleyklein524]

Nice fellow (from a neuro-atypical). An aside. At least some Asperger folk seem to be quite astute when it comes to self-reflection. Interesting in light of our trouble making empathetic (emotional -- perhaps not cognitive) contact with others.

[@kayrealist9793]

Damn... im wondering if i should get tested...

[@madshorn5826]

There are a lot of online test. Of course they are not super accurate, but if you score high it's time to start reading up on the subject :-) Watch Aspergers from the inside and Ask an autist here on KZbin and find talks by Tony Atwood and Baron Cohen or get their books. Be wary of material more than a decade old. The focus has shifted from "broken" to "different" recently. If any of the sources above rings a bell it is generally a good thing to get a diagnosis. Passing/masking as neurotypical is hard work if you're on the spectrum and in the long run you risk burn out. Allowing yourself to ... be yourself and relax is easier if you've got an official stamp :-)

[@LT-mz5yc]

@@madshorn5826 after a recent break up of 5 yrs with my former partner, i was able to extract his undiagnosed ASD from him. My AHA moment...most things about the relationship makes sense now. He is still in denial and I wish he'd do the deep work required to better understand himself and how he is in relationships. He is now "blaming" me for the unhealthy relationship. I played a role in our relationship and I know my faults and weaknesses...I will own my part. Had I known his neurodiversity, I would have approached/behaved differently in the relationship. Extremely sad that his condition has ruined our individual self concepts and friendship. The internal struggle I saw in him was/is real. I thought it was just his ADHD. Hoping one day he finds his peace and acceptance...and we can be friends again. Until then, I need to find my peace and joy again. 💔😥

[@madshorn5826]

@@LT-mz5yc Sorry to hear you've had a rough time. Let's hope awareness and acceptance becomes widespread soon. The newest numbers say 1 in 50 males and 1in 75 women is on the spectrum. A lot of miscommunication can follow from differences in neurological makeup and it is easier to bridge if everyone is acknowledge the difference and that it is ok.

[@readifdumb]

I’d get tested. There are so many other conditions that can be confused with Aspergers, such as BPD, ADD, ADHD, etc.

[@jackfitzpatrick8173]

Advantages? I have a 30 year old nephew with Asperger's. He has a superior IQ. He's studied Latin,Calculus,American Sign Language.He's a college grad (one of Boston's well know colleges) He plays chess. He has a photographic memory. I guess you could call those advantages. OTOH,he has no friends. He's never held a job. He's never been on a date. He weighs 350 pounds.He still lives with his mother and is entirely dependent on her...including financially. All things considered those around him don't see much about his life that could be considered "advantages".

[@jackfitzpatrick8173]

@D No,CBD is the cure for acne.

[@AdamChodaba]

@@jackfitzpatrick8173 ASD occurs frequently with ADHD, and ADHD meds might help with the the motivation and comfort of those things in the second paragraph. It can make it easier to hold a conversation, eye contact, motivation to clean, exercise, and go out and get a job. Inattentive type ADHD can make it hard to focus/motivate yourself in unfamiliar situations. Hope this can help whoever reads this.

[@JohnDoe-ef3wo]

@@AdamChodaba it helped me. Who should I see about adhd??

[@AdamChodaba]

@@JohnDoe-ef3wo I would look for a psychiatrist that specializes in ADHD and tell them about your symptoms and how you've had them and how they impact your life. It might help to read up on the symptoms of ADHD and figure out how much you relate and figure out instances in your life where you encounter these issues, as it might be difficult to think of them in the moment at the appointment. Some psychiatrists don't believe in adult ADHD and it might be difficult to avoid those. Some might try to convince you that you have depression instead of ADHD and give antidepressants instead of stimulants. The best thing to do is to learn about ADHD and it's symptoms and figure out for yourself without any of the biases of the doctor may have as there is a large (unfounded) stigma against ADHD meds. There is a channel called "How to ADHD" on youtube that might be helpful. Many highly functioning adults struggle with ADHD with their issues dismissed due to their success, and being successful is not enough to rule out ADHD. Symptoms can also differ from person to person.

[@Yep6803]

stereotypes over stereotypes ❤️

[@FinanceOptimum]

*Buffett, Zuckerberg, Gates*

[@chocolatier9597]

What makes you think Warren Buffett has Asperger’s?

[@paulinotou]

Gates for dure the others idk

[@mht2166]

Musk, Bezos, Branson

[@1rocknroy]

@@chocolatier9597 A story was told that Buffett's wife was sick in bed and needed a bed pan quick. He went to the kitchen and came back with a big baking pan, the kind that is perforated with dozens of holes. Totally inappropriate kind of pan. I think that, along with the quirky way he is elsewise, speaks to Asperger's.

[@chocolatier9597]

@@1rocknroy I heard that another symptom of individuals with Asperger’s involves their gait; they often don’t know what to do with their hands. I saw one footage of Warren Buffet giving a lecture in 2003 in which one of his hands was in his pocket the whole time. I witnessed this in Albert Einstein too. I wouldn’t be surprised if Elon Musk is also an Asperger.

[@GunterZochbauer]

I think people with autismus can be better investors because they can be more rational and less like sheep who run in one direction just because others next to them do so.

[@wy7128]

BILLS IS ON THE SPECTRUM!!!! HE USED THE LARRY DAVID LINE!!

[@reneesantiago6496]

My husband has Aspbergers Syndrome. He blew our entire savings on stamps. I left and we are friends but I cant live with him. They can also have rages that are scary.

[@aggierowe9574]

How did you find out? I suspect a loved one may have it, and he is an adult

[@reneesantiago6496]

@@aggierowe9574 I worked with kids who have Aspbergers. We got married one yr after we met. Once he retired and was home......the traits really showed. I went thru HELL AND HIGHWATER trying to figure out what the heck was going on with him......day after day of hell through his impulse buying and rude rage behaviors. He got diagnosed long after I already knew he had Aspbergers Syndrome. The counselor told me nothing would change due to my ex being 55.....so I was advised that either i could get a divorce or stay but live a totally seperate life from him. Theres so much more to talk about when discussing Aspbergers.....plz feel free to contact me personally if you really want to discuss it in more detail. Every person with AS is a bit different but will fall under an umbrella of traits.

[@reneesantiago6496]

@@aggierowe9574 I will email you when I get home from work. Along with working with AS children and seeing an AS specialist in couples therapy.......i also joined many support groups etc of those struggling with an AS partner. I hope I can help.

[@aggierowe9574]

@@reneesantiago6496 thank u!

[@alfrediversen3338]

“They can also have rages” thats very generalized i for example have aspergers and never rage nor do i spend my money irationally please understand that autism is a spectrum disorder

[@jaydowns2448]

Best place for this condition is having financial stability in a forn country because people wouldn't pick up on it plus the enter action with forn people is easier in my case I've been through life acting in public eye 👁️ it's really getting old

[@music4meh]

At least they don't abuse young women, which tends to be a trend in any culture of power, and if you deny it, what good are you doing to end it More power to the neurodivergent, whatever they are ''diverging'' from!

[@GorgorothBergen-ns7il]

Ameeen❤

[@kaleidojess]

I’m pretty sure I have aspergers. I should really ask a psychologist.

[@VenusVoice]

A lot of psychologist still struggle recognizing autism in women (assuming you're by your picture and name). It's a real struggle. I am in the process of being screen. I wish you luck.

[@mysteryshopper7296]

I think he’s using it as a way to avoid a criminal investigation

[@JohnDoe-ef3wo]

Criminal investigation of what sort?

[@AlexandraBo-mr3vv]

👍

[@robertwnorrisii9143]

I have a stamp collection.

[@LouiiEdward]

When your too smart for college, yet the employer wants a degree, you then become self employed, which doesn't require a paper saying I learned this... when I knew it all along.

[@strawberryfields3219]

None of the famous Aspies have ever mentioned how much neurotypical people contributed to their success by putting up with them, as well as with their lack of empathy and presence in the family lives. That is pretty representative of people with this condition and definitely isn't an "advantage".

[@Oscario2004]

There are advantages with autism, wtf are you on about? Also, most of us have empathy…

[@starlightening53]

Not all Autistics are problem to NTs. Infact other way around!..Many Autistics have mild form -infact most are half NTs.

[@AdrianFahrenheitTepes]

@@starlightening53 It depends, it’s way different just being a friend of someone than being their parent or roommate

[@acepath3001]

Hello mr Gross I just read your story about your neighbors. I play polka music louder than the Intrusive construction noises that invade my peace of mind. to create white noise for myself As it offsets the noise that the developer maliciously makes to obviously drive me out of my home. I have autism addd and synesthesia. I am constantly bullied and still targeted as a adult, in my community. So I have earned the title Anti social sciziod. I can live with that. Yeah its my photo.

[@Yep6803]

as asperger you arent asperger, maybe yes, but if you play music loud you are...please not do it

[@turkrane12]

The power of discrimination, to see past the bullshit, being able to discriminate. Juana Yogi

[@SA-ff9uc]

He has a gorgeous combover. Much better than Dalio's.

[@hotdog7988]

Niles

[@wally6620]

The Lego Movie is a good explanation

[@usarmy204]

What's the best way to make profits from crypto investing?

[@trevorchristenson4022]

I don't trade, I invest with a professional assigned by a crypto company that trades for us and returns profits on weekly basis for me and you can invest your capital and get weekly Returns of investment (ROI) without any extra fees attached The professional is Mrs Ethel Arthur

[@catherinechloe7089]

Yeah that's right I think the best way is to invest with a professional, at least it saves the trauma of too much losses This just surprised me because I also invest with Mrs Ethel Arthur

[@xavierreginald9536]

Wow! I made a lot of money last year trading with Mrs Ethel Arthur..... She's really a professional with her new strategies

[@Mary.173]

You've just made my day guys, I've lost so much trying to invest on my own

[@Mary.173]

How do I reach her please?

[@therespectedlex9794]

He says it’s a mild condition. l know he has it, and he competes at a high level, but that bothers me. Lots of ignorant people say that word - mild. The difficulties and challenges in the lives of aspies can be insufferable.

[@alfrediversen3338]

Yes they can be but when they say mild they speak relatively

[@readifdumb]

Mild is a good term as the spectrum can be much more severe than this. Aspergers itself is already on the mild side of autism, and having a mild form of that is relatively closer to NT levels of behaviour. People still struggle because of it, and act different. I’m completely obsessive with certain subjects, I lack cognitive empathy, I take thing literally a lot, I have a lot of memories in picture form with good long term but terrible short term memory, developed anxiety and depression, detail orientated, artistically inclined, hypersensitivity to heat/cold, desire for sameness, etc. Despite all these things, if I don’t tell people I have it, they will never know unless they also struggle with it or know someone who does.

[@siggy842]

@@readifdumb Do you tell people that you have it?

[@BenPrattJin]

@@readifdumb In my experience it's probably a good thing not to tell people you don't know properly; they can get the wrong idea about what the condition means (not everyone bothers to research this stuff) and then thinks that you're "fucked up in the head" (as one person I overheard once said about me back at university after I revealed to him that I had a mild form of AS) or treat you with kid gloves.

[@readifdumb]

@@BenPrattJin I don't tell anyone I don't need to, and make sure that they get to know me first before they make a judgement or even have the ability to

[@oldfrittenfett1276]

Well, I am an Aspie and I am dirt poor. I think I have the problem that Greta has: I want everything to be just. I want it a 100 %. I dislike the way finances work. But my poverty comes from the sideproblems like boneweakness, depressions and such.

[@followerofjesuschrist.]

"From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." Matthew 4:17/

[@clairerobertson4442]

Waw!

[@GrannyGooseOnYouTube]

Bless him, he refers to himself as "an" Asperger. I find that fascinating....but it sounds absolutely dreadful....to an uninformed person, it may sound like Ass Burger.

[@flawedplan]

For anyone saying autistics lack humanity come look at this man struggling with his own. Of course there are advantages to Aspergers, but we need to stop gliding over the massive downsides, acknowledge that as a relational disorder it can be hell on the non-spectrum Aspie partner. Any autistic who chooses to involve himself in a social relationship had better be prepared to learn how they work, and that means taking direction from others, usually women, every step of the way. Savor that.

[@readifdumb]

I’m completely locked away within my dungeon of a home with a complete introverted intellectually swamped mental state. It’s awful, but you get used to it. Definitely not something worth signing up for if u are a NT.

[@YellowSpaceMarine]

That sounds incredibly toxic and abusive. I'm sure noone with normal self-esteem would ever want to be in a relationship with you anyway.

[@flawedplan]

@@YellowSpaceMarine You sound nice. Not like anyone who would degrade, insult, and belittle someone (and her partner) for stating her opinion on a youtube thread. That would be, what was it? Incredibily toxic and abusive. A sure thing I did and you did not, self-focused eye.

[@fredengels8188]

klaus kinski?

[@danielmorais8754]

After South Park I can never take this syndrome normal

[@Super6-1FX]

singular hobbies, lack of eye contact, "I'm up here at 30,000 ft"...tired of people generalizing symptoms of Asperger's

[@EuropeanQoheleth]

I thought the video title said Bill Gates.

[@warriormanmaxx8991]

@European Qoheleth - Is the above wrong thinking the first time in your life - having thought something wrong ?!? Why the need to tell the world of your "thinking mistake?"

[@jaydowns2448]

Hey he definitely needs some strong sativa mushrooms Xanax you would never know

[@Duger0]

i thought i had something cool like autism but i just had ASSBURGERS fml