Bill Laimbeer: LeBron is the GOAT over MJ and is better at involving teammates to win | First Take

Bill Laimbeer joins First Take to discuss how the Detroit Pistons approached playing against Michael Jordan and the Chicago Bulls, then says Los Angeles Lakers star LeBron James, not MJ, is the greatest NBA player of all time.
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[@rustedgreen5916]

None of “The Bad Boys Pistons” will ever give Michael Jordan credit. Ever.

[@onestopgenuis9611]

I have one brother, thats Dennis Rodman

[@emmanuelgutierrez8725]

The only Bad Boy would probably be Rodman

[@emp1771]

Well they beat him that's why

[@southswagg]

@@emp1771 he gave Jordan credit in this interview tho

[@craydenxxx1744]

@@emp1771 yeah and they got beat too when mj got the right pieces

[@ovaltinejenkins4097]

I’d love to see Laimbeer argue with Skip about this😂

[@TheStylinstar]

Ovaltine Jenkins exactly! We need him to argue w/ Skip 🤣🤣🤣

[@rockscousteau]

Who wants to even watch LAMEBeer.......his opinion means nothing.....and it never will

[@southswagg]

@@rockscousteau means more than yours. Since he's accomplished historical feats in the game(NBA)you commenting on on KZbin.

[@sidneygreen3535]

@@rockscousteau 3 time champion u mean stephon Marbury opinion doesn't mean nothing

[@clownoftheyear3200]

Laimbeer is better than lbj and Mj

[@fkcamry88]

This is like having your ex-wife give you a Yelp review.

[@Zlimeboyjared]

Lmaooo

[@AffIuent]

🤣🤣🤣

[@Traypeats]

Lmfao

[@jabone3431]

haha

[@zivuhz]

“i threw the ball at the ref, bill’s face just got in the way.”

[@datonefaridze1503]

Larry bird

[@KyuanteTalksHere]

I'm convinced that no former pistons like MJ at all

[@Acshaun]

Facts

[@dbaldwin]

Lol So?

[@Tonio5100]

Except Rodman & John Salley because he got them rings too LoL

[@latina997]

I think dumars do

[@khawk1283]

The Pistons don't like him at all. They used to do Jordan so wrong, the league had to change the rules to protect Jordan. The feeling was mutual between them and Jordan because Jordan made sure Isaiah Thomas wasn't on the Dream Team in the Olympics.

[@RatoyaBanks]

“It’s actually kinda boring at times” Mr. Bill miss throwing hands on the court lol

[@o0oStillWeRiseo0o]

Facts

[@jchaomc2480]

nobody really asked tho

[@o0oStillWeRiseo0o]

@Wilt Chamberlain GOD of NBA THANK YOU!

[@layingdownreactionswithhur1407]

Will you marry me😍

[@mikejones-si6no]

He's jealous of Jordan cause he dethroned them hate is a weak emotion u can never be the goat n lose that many times n da finals labron

[@phew9418]

Max: You are known as a tough guy. Bill: Oh idk about that.. I’d say dirty is more like it.

[@EmceeRelentless]

Bill actually the only player I ever visibly cheered for when he got hurt lol

[@fate4681]

Bruh

[@mikecows828]

Nice

[@user-ml3dp9hq7o]

Not true I was bro hated him w a passion DORK

[@alanduff1054]

You didn't cheer much did you...

[@alanduff1054]

Bill was DURABLE...

[@jaycopes1578]

This dude's a piston for life never ask a piston about Jordan because you'll get a hater answer.

[@leighroy2345]

100% spot on

[@pomerlain8924]

Save for Dumars and Salley.

[@2Ksensie]

Exactly

[@wh3resmycar]

So its a hater's reply even though he gave an objective answer? 😂😂😂 sure son.

[@briz12th8]

@Jack zzstu Ritter how do you know lambeier really doesn't feel like lebron is the goat its a opinion

[@lonestarbadger9093]

Bill is a man of dedication. He still hating the bulls ever since 1991.

[@tyranburnside5364]

Lonestar Badger mj is 1-3 against the bulls in the playoffs what you talking about

[@darkkiwi6312]

@@samuelkiger4869 i was just gone say lol

[@jeromeramos9548]

@@tyranburnside5364 but that "1" made them do one of the most disgraceful acts in professional sports history. 😂😂😂

[@tyranburnside5364]

jerome ramos yeah you right them mfs stayed boxing 😂 boxing 🥊

[@Wheelio]

@@jeromeramos9548 You mean the same thing the Celtics did but everyone ignores it because they're the "good guys"?

[@GloopSerious-nt9dv]

84. - 94. the best decade ever for basketball. NBA was so fun

[@hassansaleh4649]

Wish I was alive to see that. Jordan, Bird, Magic, Kareem, Barkley, Malone, Thomas, just so many icons.

[@GloopSerious-nt9dv]

@@hassansaleh4649 Stockton, Hakeem, Alonzo, Kemp, Payton, Ewing, Grant... You could go on and on...

[@MrEvolution513]

As a Piston’s fan I get annoyed now when Zeke & Laimbeer say the Pistons got old, so the Bulls finally beat them. Just admit it - the Bulls legitimately overtook Detroit in the 1991 playoffs. I’ve never heard the 1988 Celtics say the Pistons beat them in ECF only because they were old and injured.

[@brdgphlly3d]

Thank you!

[@5IvanDrago5]

I get and appreciate your point, but my take from the different pieces Ive seen on The Pistons is they where emotionally drained. Like the man said they went to three straight finals and 5 conference titles. That is five years playing alot more basketball at the highest level then other teams and players. MJ himself, "retired" citing he was exhausted after 3 finals and 5 conference title appearances.

[@thereviewartistrrp5493]

They did get old. A basketball players career is an average of 10 years. Their prime is around 5 to 7 years. They were already battling for like 5 or 6 years as one of the top teams. Defense is hard because you have to ramp up the intensity. That's why most focus on mainly offense. What did you think? Anything pass ten years your window d down. Use common sense before you talk. Micheal was getting into his. Their was no stopping him I get sick of reading stupid comments. Show some respect. The Pistons were warriors before the bulls came into their own and pistons don't get enough credit. Everybody always hating on them just because they were the underdogs that took down all the legends.

[@reese373]

"We played defense" As they show highlights of close-lines and drop kicks and superman punches lol

[@mmk7340]

Don't forget about positioning your leg or foot so the opposing player lands awkwardly on it and turns or sprains an ankle. He had that move down. I'm all for playing good, tough defense but intentionally trying to injure people is BS. That was his game.

[@musamuhammad2676]

😂😂😂

[@sslamd]

😂

[@deesplayworldtv]

Charles Barkley slid that lookaway Superman punch in too lol

[@ronalex3002]

Right

[@NL-ii9re]

Bill: I played in the greatest era Also Bill: I don't watch the NBA now ALSO Bill: LeBron is the greatest of all time. Yeah.... sounds pretty bitter to me.

[@dudedude7650]

Nenad Lalic I mean he has his own opinion but the greatest era doesn’t necessarily have to feature the greatest player in my opinion because greatness will transfer to any era

[@crazyclown2650]

Bill Laimbeer threw elbows at people and pretended like he got fouled and nobody could do anything about it. He also made 90% of his free throws. He outsmarted his opponents. People that hate him sound really bitter

[@akanbioluwatobi2079]

U got him right there

[@baswiertz7678]

​@@dudedude7650 But when you say you dont pay attention to the nba anymore, and dont know wich player in todays game to compare youself to, then how can you name LeBron the GOAT when you dont know him.

[@donnelladams340]

@@crazyclown2650 People hate Laimbeer because he really tried to hurt people not just Jordan. He tried to break Larry Bird's neck. Laimbeer loved to cheap shot people to get inside their heads. Laimbeer hates Michael Jordan and will take a shot at him whenever he crawls from under whatever rock he was under. People talk about the bulls beating the pistons when they were old. The Pistons beat the Celtics when they were old. Their whole starting line up were born either the same year Laimbeer was or before so in 88 most of the players were in their early to mid 30s. The piston players besides Laimbeer and Edwards and Johnson were 30 and younger so again how did the Bulls beat them when they were old. Isiah and Rodman made the next 2 all star games and Isiah started in both 91 92 and 93 so yeah they were really old.

[@ConstantineJoseph]

It is players like him and the Detroit pistons that make the NBA so interesting and so legendary back then. When Michael Jordan was at peak athleticism the Detroit pistons were dominant for two seasons. That is one heck of an achievement to be the greatest disrupters of all time. Probably the most astute defensive team ever with such aggression and tricks that plays into the minds of their opponents, knocking their rhythm and making them emotional

[@jeffguybersen]

🤣

[@playaxmade]

2 season they went to 5 straight conference finals boy stop Pistons really only team to go through bird,magic and Jordan to win a championship

[@koumanchu]

@@playaxmade a Jordan squad that had four coke heads on it. LOL!

[@TheAlienman123]

Trying to injure opposing players isnt good defense

[@athanatos22]

Are we going to be surprised that he picked James over Jordan? lol

[@TheBlegere]

I'm not lebron is better

[@officialconch]

“LeBron is the GOAT over MJ” Me: What!? Who said that??? ESPN: Bill Laimber Me: “Oh nvm not shocked anymore”

[@williewillie4175]

😭

[@thejaylenfoster606]

conch . It's true though

[@garry1220able]

still BUTTHURT... i guess it will be forever BUTTHURT BILL...

[@princeprince9227]

@@thejaylenfoster606 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@gradimassamba6800]

Laimbeer is a clown

[@tavisowens7483]

Bill: “We played defense.” ESPN: (shows video footage of lambeer getting into a fist fight)

[@tava7886]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Ali-ly2cl]

That’s honestly how defense should be played in today’s game. Punch them in the mouth, shove them, do whatever. I wish they got that in today’s game, but too bad the NBA is soft

[@gthrusterg2858]

@deon harris have anyone of you watched handball fouls, go do that, come back to say this is tough.

[@AMPFIELDVISION]

Tavis Owens lmao 😂

[@kargit2]

Some of the worst defending I have seen. Zero ball contact 😂

[@spidashaw700]

Him giving Jordan praise is like kreese giving Daniel larusso praise cobra Kai never dies

[@mikehan7644]

MJ really lives in every piston's head rent free...

[@mursuka80]

I have said this before and i will say it again. I love how the hate is still there after 30 years. From both sides.

[@kennethgriffin7921]

"lebrons the goat!"... you ever seen him play? ...."nope! i don't watch basketball anymore" LOL bitter old man

[@brandonbarney7096]

kenneth griffin I mean numbers don’t lie the stats are there but like he said unless you wanna count rings but I mean if we’re counting rings Bill Russell is the best player to ever play

[@jermainegray4311]

True

[@joejeffery5454]

Brandon Barney ok so it karl malone a top 3 player all time? He’s 3rd in pointe

[@joejeffery5454]

James Ferry how come bron had 6 all-star teammates and Jordan had 4?🤔 yet still has more rings

[@eldio2124]

These pistons are going to hate Michael Jordan until the day they die. I respect this kind of rivalry

[@koretv1581]

Bulls fan here and i completely agree

[@xAmirKDx]

What you said. 💯.

[@cartiercudi9084]

El Dio faxxx💯💯

[@fmgmack]

Hate Jordan why they killed Jordan his first seven years lmao they were all in they’re mid 30s before he beat them do your research lebron is just better

[@KartelBeatz]

💯 I have nothing but respect for the fact that these guys still hate each other😂

[@hisham5002]

When you says “I have played in the greatest era” and MJ dominated that era you referring to, then it’s obvious equation 😎🤙🏼 MJ Dominate + Greatest Era = Goat 🐐

[@jahleelsayers-ns3ze]

But he didn't dominate when the pistons were around.

[@GuyAye]

MJ actually didn’t dominate that era. You do know MJ was in the league several years before he went full goat right?

[@itroll4alivin34yearsago8]

@@GuyAye just like lebron except jordan got a ring faster, bronsexuals at they finest

[@Cain353]

@@GuyAye You're right. He only got 10 scoring titles, 6 FMVP'S, 5 MVP'S and 6 rings in 13 years time. If that's not dominating than what is?

[@jacobfarley247]

@@Cain353 easy to dominate in an era with weaker competition

[@drrllhenry]

You bring a guy on a Pistons team that literally assaulted MJ everytime he drove to the basket and think he doesn’t have beef with MJ lmao.

[@e.a9531]

They are literally asking Michael Jordan’s arch rival who he thinks is the best player of all time 😐

[@clownoftheyear3200]

Zaza is better than anyone

[@lavelle3000]

Nivethan Iruthayanathan Nah it really doesn’t

[@bigdawg8475]

Whats the excuse for pippen saying Lebron was better

[@kingforte9246]

VicSpeaks in a way it does

[@un1p1g98]

Big Dawg lmao pippen changes his goat every year 😂 at first he said Michael than in 2018 he said LBJ than last year he said wilt was the best. This year he about to say Kareem tha goat

[@poierbear1]

Max: “Who do you think has an underrated game?” Bill: “Ya know that ZaZa Pachulia is really better than people give him credit for”

[@mauriciosanchez9399]

Worst statement ever

[@Eltardotv]

Marcus Rindal 😂

[@stephencorbitt2752]

Laimbeer needs to be a coach in the NBA.

[@stephencorbitt2752]

Defense was their mantra.

[@daniell5740]

@AK KD shhhhhh

[@calm1047]

Joe Dumars is the only Piston that will give Jordan his props!

[@halo2jackalsniper520]

Rodman does too

[@jesuscage]

@@halo2jackalsniper520 I was about to say

[@leroylawrence2773]

John Sally was also a former Bad Boy on a Bulls championship team! 😂

[@ramybt2785]

He doesn't have to say MJ is the Goat . Is not a sin to think LeBron is the Goat

[@isaacfleming4374]

Salley give Jordan his n Props to

[@slystally9874]

Back when the NBA was a grown man league. Golden era indeed

[@EdSmith313]

Asking a question like this to Bill Laimbeer is like asking an old school Raiders player to say something nice about the Steelers.

[@theawesomewarlover1680]

Asking that question to Bill is like asking hermann goering if he thinks adolf was a good person😐

[@AGLew17]

A lot of what he says is the truth when it comes to the game, and when it comes to early MJ...and when it comes to LBJ being a better team player. And I have love for both MJ and LBJ.

[@alfredoalcantar8691]

Maizeandbluekid don be hating

[@Ahch_not_op_of_Judah]

Maizeandbluekid exactly

[@chefc568_4]

Maizeandbluekid exactly, laimbeer one of the biggest thugs ever to play, must be real “tough” smacking unsuspecting players driving to the ring

[@brooklynmanda]

Bruh he's a former Piston why tf would he like MJ lmfao

[@joseph1824]

Zachary Hoy salty? Pistons had a winning record in the playoffs against MJ and won 2 in a row who’s salty lol.

[@Camikage11]

Sharpshooter 02 facts

[@SuperMisteryMan01]

Zachary Hoy dude I love Isaiah but there’s been times he hated on Scottie and MJ Also with Scottie hating on Isaiah too. It’s ideally how the world should work I’m with you but it’s just not how it is in this case

[@jinxpolk8545]

@Chinese Virus S.T.0.P

[@Zytroxy]

Lebron is the GOAT

[@detroitpistons2389]

Bad Boys Pistons will always be one of the greatest teams ever !!

[@dachicagoan8185]

I wish i could reply and say that Robert Parish's 3 punch knockout on Bill Laimbeer was the best NBA fight ever.

[@jkelly1418]

I’m not even a Pistons fan but you gotta love the brotherhood “The Bad Boys” have til this day 💯

[@philbosh03]

I agree but lying on national television because u don't like mj is just wrong

[@supremevictory4310]

@@philbosh03 he not lying you just a fan

[@francisdavid2747]

@@philbosh03 What is he lying about tho I think MJ is the greatest but one thing you have to admire is the passion in which they played the game, they still have that adversity within former competition, it was played with more heart but I think right now the NBA is played with more skill

[@Jon155mt]

@@supremevictory4310 He is lying you just a hater

[@philbosh03]

@@francisdavid2747he's lying about who the greatest player is just cuz his spite for the other. U can't say he's the greatest because he didn't like him and thats all his reasoning is behind why he thinks lebron is the greatest it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out

[@DNaWhoot]

You're asking the guy who literally tried to injure MJ on purpose. FOH

[@supersaiyanjin2199]

And bird

[@conchobar]

The Bad Boys tried to injure all star NBA players on opposing teams.

[@Greendeath312]

Michael McMillan what would that truth be then? If its Lebron over MJ then take whatever you’re smoking out of here

[@younglove3362]

They actually had standards of how they fouled. Stop over exaggerating. If he wanted to injure Jordan then he would've

[@sams2021_3]

@@younglove3362 they pretty much ended bill Cartwright and Robert perish career short

[@viktorkopinc4055]

I can't believe I'm saying this but Bill ain't lying.

[@Moghster]

his excuse is like stabbing a person and then giving yourself credit for improving criminal law.

[@raphthaturtle9698]

Bill keeping the same energy after all these years 🤷🏾 can’t be mad at that... lol

[@brettthomas6327]

He speaking straight facts 💯

[@jessepride88223]

@@brettthomas6327 stop

[@ATL1995]

@@brettthomas6327 smh it guy with a opinion, just opinion. Bill would chose the water boy over MJ. He just hating as always

[@rgscomputers1]

@@ATL1995 exactly he will never concede cause HE got the better of him we ALL KNOW THAT

RaphThaTurtle _ yes you could cuz he garbage and mike whooped him badd

[@alfarouqaminufor3892]

"As we got old" Dumars was 28, isiah Thomas was 30, rodman was 30, Liambeer was 34. They were the back-to-back defending champs and got swept!

[@marcoarreola9058]

Preach!!!

[@eddiem6269]

al farouq aminu for 3 FACTS!! 💯😂

[@jeffersongarcia8257]

al farouq aminu for 3 and yet they praise Lebron for breaking up the Celtics big 3 but they were even older than the pistons

[@skiknight86]

They did get old genius lol. Jordan and pippen were younger with a better coach lol

[@juanm6248]

Because they could not get away with hard technical fouls anymore.

[@rickjames8367]

Isiah Thomas gives Jordan alot of credit. When he became a commentator, he always gave Jordan props for being the greatest.

[@___Anakin.Skywalker]

Nah, he said LeBron is the GOAT which is a true facts. LeBron is the king, best ever and GOAT!

[@columbusohio72]

@@___Anakin.Skywalker change meds

[@alanduff1054]

He DID..... But then he found out Jordan was the reason he wasn't on the dream team...

[@innosanto]

Isaiah has also said that Bird would be the greater winner

[@goosnavslakovic4908]

Bill Laimbeer saying lebron is better straight up is enough validation for me to know that MJ is the best. Thanks bill for simplifying things.

[@andrewp4220]

Bill - " we played defense " ..... in the background, fists flying and people getting punched... hahaha that was a great era !!!

[@TheCruzan26]

LMAO it was

[@29mailliw]

Lol facts

[@officialconch]

It’s the same little highlight reel

[@kinggio7833]

LOL

[@spacemountain5624]

I'm so glad Robert Parrish slapped him silly

[@RoscoeStar]

All of the highlights are literally fights and brawls 😂😂😂

[@supermaxupnorthrecordsunto6788]

Lol rite

[@izzyd3558]

BadBoys

[@gerardrbain1972]

I think the focus on the physical play of the Bad Boy era Detroit Pistons is a ploy to deligitimise how hard those teams were to actually beat.

[@beetlesazer]

Coach Bill. Detroit Pistons needs a coach like you

[@abdulmahmood1786]

Listen, he has a right to an opinion. He knows better than most of us. He ACTUALLY played in the NBA. He knows what he’s talking about.

[@isaachaze1]

Most people don't even know this, but Bill Laimbeer actually changed his name at some point from the name he was given at birth, which was Hugh Jassole.

[@tsxy3428]

if my last name was "jassole" than I would change it as well

[@GreenlightBze]

Do he have religion background

[@marcosjuarez1490]

@Slim Reaper lol i know.. Ahole

[@MauriSky2437]

OMG I actually read Huge Jassole and nearly cracked a rib laughing! Funniest thing read in years.

[@user-ml3dp9hq7o]

Hey no body cares

[@nuijohnson3378]

I needa do my grocery shopping wherever Bill does his, cos his salt done lasted 30 years!!

[@miltontaylor7750]

HAHAHAHAHAHA That is a fact.

[@Loganbub]

Yes his bias plays a factor in his opinion but overall he was very fair in his opinion and praised Jordan

[@janreypaglinawan3244]

Hahaha. Yeah man salty

[@aaronschutte7160]

Why would he be salty? His team has a winning record against Magic, Bird, and Michael. He’s being honest. Not salty.

[@sams2021_3]

@@aaronschutte7160 why didn't they even shake hands after the series? Why Isiah blackballed Jordan at the Allstar game? Sore losers.

[@upstandingcitizen3877]

I love that all the highlights they show are of his brawls.

[@clydetheglidetop5sgtop10du7]

Love how he says he doesn't watch the NBA anymore but says "LeBron ANY DAY of the week" yeah he always hated Jordan and still does might have something to do with all the times Jordan dunked in his face

[@chacosavage]

He literally says he doesn't watch the NBA anymore 😂

[@rafaelfernandez1194]

will v don’t blame him. NBA today is as far as WWE

[@kennethgriffin7921]

"lebrons the goat!"... you ever seen him play? ...."nope!" ...."and f*ck jordan!" LOL bitter old man

[@lorenzodancer265]

@@kennethgriffin7921 LeBron 3-6 in the finals goat how ?

[@robertleamon1419]

Lorenzo Dancer dude you don’t just look at the ending result. You look at the teams he was up against and if he actually could win against those teams

[@dt6805]

robert leamon he had two prime all stars with him most of the time. Had a say in team construction. He was the best player in the world with all stars with him. How much else did he need?

[@xPrymeTimex]

I hate when media members ask former pistons about Jordan. might as well ask Dan Gilbert about LeBron next LOL

[@HArjoC]

Facts 🤣

[@Azir223]

Or Jason Terry

[@eliman444]

But bulls was losing to the pistons swym

[@tonyavant1773]

Exactly.why is he on the show

[@MrMikelew2929]

@Big Time stop it. Only thing Lebron is better at is passing. NOTHING ELSE.

[@liberationpocket7950]

"How were you able to contain MJ specifically?" The Prince of Darkness: "Good defense"

[@TheLuminousOne]

😂😈

[@NameCallingIsWeak]

Kurt Rambis hired Bill Laimbeer as an assistant coach : that makes me smile

[@elijahporter4558]

Stephen A: “Y’all went to 4 straight conference finals ....” Bill Laimbeer: “5 .... FIVE 🗣” 😂😂😂😂

[@ariesking1036]

Stephen A.: you're wrong an heres why

[@dumisatonyjohnson8145]

1987 1988 1989 1990 1991

[@TheCruzan26]

Should of won 3 NBA Championships in a row. Got robbed against the Lakers.

[@BlackMamba-yv1im]

Cruzan26 big game James snapped in game 7 how pistons got robbed

[@FecalMatador]

Black Mamba I think he’s referring to the phantom foul on Jabbar’s hook shot at the end of that game

[@chrisgibson2106]

It's a rivalry, he'll never ADMIT Jordan is the greatest.

[@mormanfreegan545]

Chris Gibson I truly think that Bill doesn’t think Mike’s the greatest. He hates him that much

[@pwnedd11]

Nope. He beat Jordan until he finally turned 33 years old. Why would he have problems saying that Jordan is the greatest? It would just make him look better.

[@fpridgeway]

Look: He beat Jordan for years. Also, he just articulated why LeBron is better. Nothing to admit.

[@JacobHTTR]

Because he isn't

[@viilord2679]

It's a rivalry??... Real quick is Bill Lambier and Jordan still in the NBA? I could be missing something but last time I checked if you're not in the NBA you can't be NBA rivals

[@johnjones528]

The Pistons didn't get old, they got beat, fair and square. Isiah said he looked over at the Bulls and realized, "They are us, but hungrier."

[@jasoncarreiro86]

Just came here because I needed some salt for my dinner... knew I’d find some 😂

[@Allensanor]

Those punches from parish are still affecting cuz he really just said “ iMma sTiCk tO tHe WNBA”😂😂

[@archle1169]

I feel like this shows how good Jordan was. Ppl from his era still hate him. 😂

[@bofranklin2944]

Laimbeer went 3-1 vs Jordan..he literally probably respects bird and magic more because they won when he played...mj was a scorer during this era..he didnt take off until these guys were no longer household names

[@shadygrovebears9556]

It's not hate, it's called facts! Just because he doesn't go with the narrative the media push about Jordan doesn't mean he's hating! Jordan didn't beat them until they were older......Facts!

[@davarieusfox]

But they literally had to beat Jordan up to win. He literally says it. The era was rough back then. A prime Jordan in today's game and... Man!!!! Look what Kobe went on to do. So no, Lebron is great, but the times are different.

[@davidelsea1296]

@@shadygrovebears9556 It's definitely bitterness. They couldn't fairly beat h im its why they tried to hurt him. The bad boys couldn't hang with anyone in todays game. Jordan would of destroyed them without trying to hurt him.

[@shadygrovebears9556]

@@davidelsea1296 .... I take it you weren't old enough to watch those finals like i did? You're just going off those highlights in the video. The Pistons wasn't just bullish on the court. They played TEAM ball. Jordan was a selfish ball hog until he learned to pass the ball a little.... lo! This man has nothing to be bitter about! I can see if never beat him. They DOMINATED the bulls 3x until they got older!

[@sharshal465]

Bill actually knows the game at a deeper level which is shown by his championships as a coach so his opinion really holds alot of value to me.

[@user-ml3dp9hq7o]

He’s a dork 🖕🏽

[@sharshal465]

@@user-ml3dp9hq7o no sir. you are.

[@imushavem4061]

This comment had me LMAO!!!

[@goatjames328]

Bill is looking like a genius today!🎯💯🫡

[@jiechou2078]

Laimbeer: " As we got older, it became easier for them". When Jordan beat them Isiah Thomas and Rodman were 29, Dumars were 27, Laimbeer 33, Aguirre 31, John Sally 25. Most of them were in their prime.

[@arwengarcia280]

Their everlasting excuses

[@goankmahdi2022]

Back then you were a senior citizen prime was 22-26

[@copyrightstrikez_bandit143]

Jie Chou exactly! Excuses Excuses Excuses, etc. The Bull's won the 2nd 3-Peat despite being the oldest team in the league.

[@koretv1581]

@@goankmahdi2022 they beat jordan the year before.

[@SalGersGirl]

it didn't hurt that 2 FORMER Pistons played INSTRUMENTAL roles in a few of the Bulls Championships!

[@preyeyinkore7238]

Bill : *I don't really pay attention to the NBA anymore* Same Bill later: *James is the GOAT over Jordan.* 🤣🤣🤣

[@jeff29markyahoocom]

On point 😁

[@JimmyBlues99]

Larry Bird & Oscar Robertson were Goat before these guys

[@migueldegreef6565]

Hypocrisy at its best

[@hirofan]

He doesn’t believe a word of it

[@c-lokes3636]

Laimbeer a certified hater

[@JTan74]

I remember a quote from an old basketball magazine, commenting on Bill Laimbeer's retirement: "Fans want [Bill Laimbeer] back on the court one more time just to boo him." But seriously, at that time my classmates (high school) and I admired the Pistons' defense in the late 80s.

[@NameCallingIsWeak]

Everybody beat Jordan & the Bulls, before the Pistons did.

[@l.rongardner2150]

"Objectivity" and "Bill Laimbeer" should not be used in the same sentence.

[@banquetmeal663]

I hope Laimbeer blows his acl every single year. He was the dirtiest player in the NBA year in year out.

[@chrisrains6464]

Laimbeer talks about the Pistons getting older making it easier for the Bulls. Pistons ages in 1991 when the Bulls swept them from the playoffs. Isiah Thomas 29, Joe Dumars 27, Dennis Rodman 29, Bill Laimbeer 33, Mark Aguirre 31, Vinny Johnson 34, John Salley 26. It's not that the Pistons were old. It's that Jordan's supporting cast finally developed.

[@remyybuxaplentyyy]

That’s old ..

[@remyybuxaplentyyy]

Chris Rains and I don’t believe it was shade . The Bad Boys didn’t get over the hump with Lakers and Celtics till they got up in age themselves .

[@fuddyduddie1205]

Chris Rains exactly. They were so salty they didn’t even shake hands. Just like a bunch of bullies who got stood up to and beat.

[@215IamTheStreets]

THANK YOOOOOOOU! IM SICK OF THAT FALSE NARRATIVE!

[@fuddyduddie1205]

Davarius Javon that’s not old when compared to the Bulls age. They were very close in age and he’s just trying to make excuses and discredit the Bulls for dethroning them.

[@Bonescratcher]

Ok I’m officially changing his name to Salty Bill

[@d-money_smoove]

I am pretty sure if you put him in a room and got him to answer this question he says Jordan. Laimbeer will never give Jordan the benefit of the doubt. The mind games continue.

[@mikegwitty8107]

The pistons still hate Jordan. Any questions about Jordan is gonna be bias coming from a piston

[@breslinhoward6992]

Him and isiah thomas both do this

[@jaybird4571]

Facts and I love it! Deeeeetroit basketballlll

[@leonardomoore1868]

Mike twitty what bill laimbeer is talking about Jordan's 1- 8 record before pippen showed up then he even said that's when they went on their run so how is that hate!

[@edmichaelalobog8886]

Leonardo Moore think about it. If there’s only 23 teams in the league. And you only have 4 teams who have won the title for the whole 1980s and 3 of those teams are from the East. That just says about the concentration of talent at that era. MJ himself wouldn’t be able to pull it off, hey even your Bron Bron cried for help.

[@jmoney4220]

Mike Gwitty makes no sense they usually beat him

[@goosebt1245]

Getting Bill Laimbeer to say nice things about Jordan is like telling ESPN to stop talking about Lebron. Not Happening.

[@CyCamronAnderson]

GooseBT....u hit da nail rite on da head😁💯

[@Iniquityslasher]

Salty mj fans?

[@eazyduzit-tr3nx]

Jay Biersack Is he lying though? I know LBJ groupies are loving Bill right now, if they haven’t already.

[@Perfection212]

His Pistons are the only team that walked out and did not shook hands with the opponents!That should be remembered!

[@dapper892]

Boston did it to them a few years before. That’s not true.

[@nonamewillbegiven6847]

​@@dapper892nope. So dull

[@dagameplayer]

"was better at involving teammates'. well MJ involved teammates just fine within the triangle, but at the end of the day Lebron is a point forward and Jordan was a shooting guard. Not everyone on the court is meant to be a playmaker. If Bill can't get that then he doesn't know the game very well.

[@sportstalkonly1442]

He played the game. I'm pretty sure he knows it better than u

[@christiano2349]

The MJ bitterness all on his face. He still sees him as a rival 🤣🤣

[@curstinconway4787]

what rival? never lost until they where to old to care lol

[@Brianaxel44]

Curstin Conway not really isiah thomas dumars and rodman were all not even 30 when they got swept by MJ the year after they won the chip

[@scopeworth7781]

You don’t think it’s possible he just genuinely think Lebron is just the best?

[@Iniquityslasher]

Lmfao you salty mj fans😂

[@hawkeye0378]

Curstin Conway well considering that they were so bitter that they walked off the court with out shaking hands they seemed to care quite a bit that they lost

[@bigdbo4978]

What I respect the most about Billl Laimbeer is the fact that he did not discriminate....he didn't care if you were black white or brown he hated anybody who wasn't a Detroit Piston....True Hall Of Famer

[@b.ramquist8704]

Wow, yeah. Mad respect?

[@craigsmith6274]

He was a scumbag dirty player very dirty

[@arthasmenethil4297]

Dirty player

[@bigdbo4978]

@@arthasmenethil4297 he wasn't dirty he was tough

[@bigdbo4978]

@A T he's a HOF player because he won two championships as a starter and helped his team beat the best in the game

[@sh43n]

I like when these reporters that never played basketball always disagree with actual NBA players in this debate.

[@MrDay-jw9bv]

Payton, Jordan, James, Garnett, O'Neal

[@thewatcher8343]

says the guy who was part of a team that had to make a specific set of rules just beat jordan

[@sroland3533]

Exactly .....

[@kokiomufc]

Bill Laimbeer played before the Hip Check Era, They Beat Jordan up until Pippen Figured it out, after that it was a Wrap

[@Eb-dw3tq]

Successful at it too.

[@Eb-dw3tq]

@@kokiomufc well Stern also changed the rules

[@elibadass8133]

Thats called a game plan here on Earth.

[@R-L-I]

Bill “always down for a fight” Laimbeer!

[@BrandynThom]

Always down to get beat up. Squabbles were trash

[@alamainscott1825]

Win or Loose. Bill didn't mind fighting....

[@prilljazzatlanta5070]

I love how people complain that todays nba guys all want to be buddies but when you have old school guys holding grudges theyre petty. Doesnt lambier declaring LBJ the goat make old basketball competition better?

[@artboston4787]

I agree with Bill about getting hosed in game 6 of the '88 finals. Kareem was clearly gifted that foul at the end of the game which stole the win and championship from Detroit.

[@vinnnyn32]

This dude JUST SAID he doesn’t watch modern NBA so how tf he gonna say anything about LBJ 😂😂

[@ariesking1036]

Cause he hates the bulls an MJ

[@fusionn4316]

LBJ has been playing since 2003.

[@AngelMVega-qh3uf]

That's is true men....after all this years......he still with the grudge, unreal

[@Jon155mt]

@@fusionn4316 He wasn't even close to being the GOAT in 2003. Nice try tho.

[@fusionn4316]

@@Jon155mt MJ wasn't close to being the GOAT in 1984 either. Nice try though.

[@bryanrolex1292]

he really gone be hurt when mj documentary start😂😂😂😂

[@alanchen7061]

Bryan Rolex no I would take pride in that documentary as a member of the Detroit Pistons

[@paulmkz]

80s NBA was like a bar fight on a Friday night. Was wild and rough. Anybody who says otherwise doesn't no basketball. Watch the highlights

[@Dfturcott]

Also, I’d like to point out in 2008ish Pippen was even on tv saying at that point in their respective careers he would have rather had lebron over mj

[@nonamewillbegiven6847]

Yawwwwn trolll

[@DavidJ222]

Consider the source. That's all you need to know.😂

[@DavidJ222]

Mad Bway No.....send Larry Bird. So he can lay hands on him again. 😂

[@himmie1]

It's his opinion. Why would he need to choose your choice

[@Onlyrealmusic4life]

The source is a guy on a team that beat Jordan more than he beat them. Probably the best source to be honest.

[@JD-xu9nw]

He speaking facts

[@snakeowski6748]

Onlyrealmusic4life I get where you’re coming from, but there is a considerable amount of beef between the Bad Boys Piston teams and Jordan. Just see Isaiah Thomas. I will admit I’m bias, I am raised in Chicago, but objectively I think you have to say that this is not the best source.

[@miguellafortune]

Lmao...like lambier is gonna say MJ? Like seriously..cmon Espn😂y’all already knew what his answer was gonna be

[@DouglasIII368]

You know the pistons in those days hated Jordan with a passion.

[@GildedWarrior331]

Facts but I respect his opinion and the reason why buy we all know what the real deal hollyfield is?????

[@mmshepherds8802]

That’s false plenty of players who played against mj still think he’s the goat it’s just people who don’t fear MJ and know how to beat him know Lebron would be harder to beat

[@loganh7843]

Okay name one Pistons "Bad Boy" that called MJ the goat. That whole team hated the guy and won't admit his greatness

[@BrotherAcee]

Mr Quarantine Isaiah said Jordan the goat ...

[@gordonbryant8144]

Give bill lambeer credit he’s consistent in his feelings about mj it’s 30 something years later and he still doesn’t like or respect him

[@hairjordan2620]

He started laughing at the sound of load management 💀

[@blckbear2074]

😂 BWAAAAAAAHAHAAAAA THATS like asking my ex wife if I’m a good guy 😭

[@EastSideRudeBoy]

Lmfaooo That's facts right there

[@johnle1535]

Like and subscribed!

[@CMcycle]

@Byron Rainer Did LeBron face a team like the Bad Boy Pistons early in his career?

[@BaristaNics]

😂 😂 😂 😂 😂

[@frankmclain3634]

@Byron Rainer but he still hasn't learned how to be clutch Jordan involved his teammates on championship winning plays. Those are lies

[@vincewarren1271]

"I don't pay attention to the NBA much anymore" Also Bill: "Lebron's the greatest"

[@michaeldesanta7746]

To be fair, Lebron has been playing since 03.

[@edwardvargas9909]

I peep that... 😂😂

[@johnladd5454]

Also bill: lebron knew how to involve his teammates in order to win from day one. Reality: 3-5.

[@harveytoofresh8746]

@@michaeldesanta7746 literally no point whatsoever to you saying this.

[@lebronfedererarchiudean7629]

@@johnladd5454 yeah at least he got to those finals, jordan couldn't win a single playoff series without pippen

[@bainer3052]

This is why guys like Isaiah and Laimbeer will always have a stain on their legacy. Rodman played on their team but went on to better and bigger things, and more championships. But those two, are still marinating on the Bulls sweeping them into oblivion.

[@Light23K]

People say MJ never lost a finals but how many times has he failed to reached the finals? Greatness doesn’t always has to be undefeated in the finals but also about taking a bunch of scrubs to the finals.

[@dustinsnell489]

I am one of the biggest MJ fans of all time and I love and respect the Bad Boys. They were neccessary for MJ to be the greatest.

[@chigozie9850]

AgooD Avgguy MJ and the bulls SWEPT the bad boys pistons in the ECF of 1991.

[@joshmcbench5332]

@AgooD Avgguy '88 Pistons beat Bulls 1st rd '89 Pistons beat Bulls semi '90 Pistons beat Bulls ecf '91 Bulls beat back to back champion Pistons via swept in their own court then walkout not finishing the game😊 just saying

[@IJones-yz6qm]

Dustin Snell.... BIG FACTS!!!

[@tooakki]

David Stern and the Machine were necessary for Jordan to win.

[@joshmcbench5332]

@john black is that the ratio of the championships Bulls had against the Pistons not bad really 😢cheers🍻

[@andrefaelnar]

That was the same guy who walked out the court like a sore loser when jordan hit a long game winning buzzer beating 3 against his pistons in 1993 lol 😂😂😂😂😂

[@stefankostovski80]

Also the same guy to beat jordan about 5 times before pippen came along 🤷‍♂️

[@jermainegray4311]

True

[@DrFearfall]

And he still knows that LeBron is the GOAT!

[@datboirell]

Stefan Kostovski a young jordan not in his prime yet

[@BigBrandonMarcel]

@@datboirell He was beating MJ in the late 80s as well.... So when was MJs prime....the 90s...so in his 7th season.

[@CYCLONE4499]

It was a lotta fun watching the Bad Boy Pistons play back in the day

[@frankmerendino1855]

From the guy who wouldn't shake Jordan's and the Bulls' hands when walking off the court after losing to them. Yeah...a real unbiased source. If you have a game 7 and need a win, who are you picking, Jordan or LeBron?

[@QUiNTiNBANKS]

“Changes the game of basketball of The good” *shows footage of a fight* 😂😂😂😂😂

[@kennethgriffin7921]

"lebrons the goat!"... you ever seen him play? ...."nope! i don't watch basketball anymore" LOL bitter old man

[@clownoftheyear3200]

Zaza is the goat 🐐

[@otisdriftwood7094]

Him and his whole team were hacks. LameQueer had no talent and he is a Jordan hater.

[@abcapone]

He’s mad because MJ ruined his streak

[@hakeemolajuwonBESTROCKET]

He just hated Jordan like sooo much, wouldn't even complete the whole game after he got swept to shake hands or anything, like he once said "who's he" Most hated player of all time imo

[@hakeemolajuwonBESTROCKET]

Like what did ESPN expect BILL LAIMBEER yes that guy to say anything good about MJ let alone say he's the 🐐 He probably hated MJ more than he would hate a man that killed his mother 😂

[@theicemachine1574]

He was so powerful the leauge had to step in an remove him off the team

[@301larussomusic]

He's telling the truth

[@-_--_---]

DiamondSamurai Yet him and the Pistons always clapped him so what's your point? Why would he be mad at someone he had a winning record against?

[@karimdilawar]

Nobody knows Bill Laimbeer. The world knows MJ.

[@carlossolomon2248]

It's crazy how his going to be in the hall of fame at some point Well deserved sir