Bill Simmons’ Worst NBA Contracts Draft: 2024 Edition | The Bill Simmons Podcast

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01 06:22 Ben Simmons 02 13:50 Jordan Poole 03 22:20 Zac LaVine 04 28:00 Andrew Wiggins 05 23:05 Bradley Beale 06 36:50 Nicola Vucevic 07 39:15 KAT 08 43:40 Trey Young 09 49:00 Diandre Ayton 10 52:05 Keldon Johnson 11 55:00 Jeremie Grant 12 57:40 Kawhi Lenard 13 1:00:00 CJ McCollum 14 1:01:58 Deandre Hunter & John Collins 15 1:06:50 LaMelo Ball 16 1:11:41 Dame Lillard 17 1:17:50 MPJ 18 1:19:10 Sabonis 19 1:22:20 Spicy P 20 1:24:58 Cam Johnson 21 1:28:19 Anthony Davis 22 1:33:10 Ja Morant (ghost pick) 23 1:34:30 Kyle Kuzma 24 1:37:05 Tyler Herro 25 1:39:15 Apologies and honourable mentions

[@nickford17]

Hero

[@smartyjonez5470]

KAT leading nba in rebounds and Knicks playing great. The contract seems very fair now

[@davincerica7232]

Bill's son being named Ben Simmons makes this even funnier 😂

[@AGradeNonsense]

Oh that IS funny. What would be funnier is if he got an easy question wrong in front of the class in the third grade, then started refusing to go to school.

[@davincerica7232]

@AGradeNonsense 🤣 transfer to other school, just can't get the correct glasses?

[@AGradeNonsense]

@@davincerica7232 Did you also notice Vuc lighting it up against the juggernaut Wizards today as if to prove Wos wrong?

[@lilpenny1982]

LMAO. Name change soon coming up.

[@JJ_5289]

​@lilpenny1982 fairly common first and last name. I'm sure there's thousands of people out there who feel the same way lol

[@notkjjk]

Wos picking Sabonis when he plays every game, puts up historic stats, and has provided a foundation for which the lowly SACRAMENTO KINGS are in position to make the playoffs for the 2nd time in like 20+ years is just nuts. Does he have limitations? Sure. So does 98% of the league. You build around him and support him because they don't win shit without him.

[@notkjjk]

MPJ is a key piece of the best team in basketball. What are we doing?

[@kingpick240]

Historic stats don't mean anything if you get handed a first round exit every year

[@FalseNi9e]

He's horrendous on defense!

[@notkjjk]

They lost a 7 game series against the defending champs when he had a broken hand. And Fox had a broken hand. In their first year together. You sound silly. @@kingpick240

[@notkjjk]

@@FalseNi9e Such a casual take, watch the games. Their worst problem is below par perimeter defense

[@Hilltopperpete]

The Sabonis pick is wild disrespect. The Kings averaged UNDER THIRTY WINS per season the previous 15 seasons with a winning record ZERO TIMES since 2006 and they immediately became a perennial 50-win team after the Sabonis trade. And Sabonis does shoot 3s. The last two years he's averaging 19.5pts 13reb 7.8 ast on 61/40/72 shooting.

[@ozberkoz]

I love Sabonis but you should also give credit to the Mike Brown and Fox for Kings ' improvement.

[@SkiLILs]

​@ozberkoz Wos is racist along with much of the NBA media, he's riddled with these takes

[@joedirenzo4002]

“By all accounts, a beloved teammate” is quickly rising up my draft boards of Bill Simmons vernacular

[@КонстантинЕськов-ь1у]

What else is on your boards?

[@Beau838]

@@КонстантинЕськов-ь1у”he’s just out there doing stuff ..” “He’s just in the right places at the right time in big games..”

[@davincerica7232]

​@@КонстантинЕськов-ь1у"as you guys know, I had the Clippers season tickets 🎟 "

[@fortynights1513]

@@КонстантинЕськов-ь1у”I liked his game”, and “I had Clippers season tickets” deserve mention

[@MoochoSawesomeo]

“If you play his career twenty times, is this one of the worst ones”

[@masonparker24]

Picking Sabonis is wild. Wos clearly has watched 5 minutes of Kings ball. Complaining that Sabonis is 6’8 - meanwhile Sabonis 6’10 and leads the league in rebounds and did last year as well.

[@lostyly]

LOL

[@mrcoolguy2530]

The fuck? The dude is not 6-10 he is 6-8, although it’s not a huge difference. The nba exaggerates the heights of their players, ala kyrie who’s 6 ft max and Desmond bane who is similar if not shorter

[@masonparker24]

@@mrcoolguy2530 LMAO you are casual af. He was listed at 7’0 a year ago. Thats definitely a lie. But he’s not 6’8 you goober

[@frayoungblood5029]

😂😂😂 and will choke in playoffs again

[@erikescobar6616]

@@mrcoolguy2530y’all pick and choose who’s height is exaggerated and not. Like people who think KD is 7’ when he’s 6’10.5

[@kennethko1534]

Lol Ben Simmons has come full circle. From #1 pick in the 2016 draft to the #1 pick in the 2024 Worst Contracts Draft.

[@lorennerhus3611]

It was an obvious #1 pick for this segment 😅

[@lamarkpowells]

He isn’t the worst contract though it’s expiring an expiring contract has value cause it allows a gym to reset the books

[@Dan-ri9hw]

It’s funny how he went from being the rookie of the year looked to have a bright future to now be a name everybody will forget in 10 years. Makes me think of Tyreke Evan’s. I don’t remember what even happened to him but I thought he was going to be a big deal back in the day

[@Naiatelu]

Greg Oden is at home punching the air listening to Ben's finessing $100mn whilst sitting on the bench for years

[@HitManHerbert13]

Picking Sabonis was beyond stupid. That guy has been averaging near a triple-double and is pretty efficient on his splits.

[@TheChessRunner]

It is all about how you value a contract. Is it maximizing the chance of a chip, then you could argue he was picked to low. If you want to maximize regular season success for mediocre team then it it stupid.

[@SkiLILs]

​@@TheChessRunnermost teams aren't any where near contenders so if that's your standard every player making a lot of money should be on this list.

[@MrScroogedmcduck]

If he was on the Celtics he would be the best. Charles Fleming Andover Mass. St Augustine elementary

[@MrScroogedmcduck]

​@@TheChessRunneryes

[@doktarr]

I thought Ben Simmons was unassailable but god damn, did House made a good case for Poole

[@MrOctober44]

Ben has one year left.

[@joeb588]

Yeah, Ben might just end up getting salary dumped at next year’s trade deadline in the way Westbrook was

[@MrOctober44]

@@joeb588 Obviously he's insanely overpaid. But it's one more year. Everyone else on this list, while my more serviceable, have at least three years...

[@inimitableminimalist]

Oran Poole. No J no D.

[@deadarmd]

The thing is you feel bad for both. In both instances people made real cheap shots that are obviously having effect. Sucker punching someone into a bad concussion cannot be overstated, people change mentally forever from that. Just look up the behavioral things about post concussion syndrome especially bad ones. Being fouled every time you touch the ball in the beginning of a 3rd quarter can basically make anyone who shoots under 75% from the line (well over half the league and they're professionals) feel unwanted, especially when people are pointing and laughing at you after you were a part of the future of the NBA for 3 years. It's tough, and they're compensated well😊

[@cam8868]

Seeing this pod pop up is like Christmas to me

[@fortynights1513]

Imagine this contract pod in 2017 or 18

[@witchdoctor813]

I’ve been waiting on this episode all season 😂

[@David-iv6je]

House having a real microphone with a stand STILL makes me happy. Now let's get some help for Wos. Simmons, pay these guys more!

[@jacklumsden7444]

Just fire wos please

[@Dridgeism]

He's got something there off camera 30:10, definitely sounds better than the in line mic on those earbuds would offer haha

[@Olecramyelir]

@@jacklumsden7444why?

[@thomasfriesejr.9198]

All you need to know about Glen Taylor is that the best player in franchise history refused to have his number retired while he has anything to do with the team.

[@josereyes1148]

Didnt he promise KG ownership and back out? Now hes pulling ish with selling the team again,

[@sammyttheg412]

​@@josereyes1148you can't do that though

[@ryannelson2653]

No league knows how to give out bad contracts so well like the NBA! Favorite segment of the year!

[@andyh4518]

MLB is fond of giving out bad ones too.

[@Mackster248]

I dont know man, MLB is right there imo. They’re king of giving contracts to what players did in the past as for what they will do in the future.

[@RayanMADAO]

Does any other league have as much guaranteed money as the nba does

[@candidfob8423]

@@RayanMADAO yeah but at least there's no Bobby Bonilla contracts in the NBA where your team is paying a guy every year for the next 4o years

[@cwhitney1972]

@@candidfob8423 Magic Johnson had a similar contract, but that ended 15 years ago.

[@marshallmyers8455]

Ben Simmons is #1 by far. Guy is Professor Finesser

[@pex3]

It's not his fault he had debilitating back injuries.

[@vestanpance99]

@@pex3 hard to tell what’s fact and fiction with him. What’s “debilitating” for him is something that could be lived with for plenty of others. How hard does he work to keep his body right outside the game etc etc

[@michaelturley3457]

The extra years for Wiggins almost makes him worse to me

[@trimrimmer]

wos managed to get through the entire cam johnson segment thinking it was about cam thomas

[@Abhinav-mpeg4]

I can’t believe it and somehow he supposed to know ball

[@AdamHammond-]

And there is no way Bill and House didn't notice

[@jasonwick4714]

You knew house was taking Jordan Poole even if he went first 🤣🤣🤣

[@David-iv6je]

Poole's dropoff is a testament to how well the Warriors system kept guys on the rails.

[@ilovewithcaution]

@@David-iv6jethat’s a stretch, Draymond is the most unhinged player in the nba, Wiggins goes AWOL every season and Kuminga had to call out his coach publicly to get minutes

[@Sam19509]

@@ilovewithcautionWiggins father went on life support allegedly and a Warriors Assistant coach the whole team worked with died of a heart attack during a team dinner in Utah I think.

[@razkable]

Playing with curry klay wiggins green looney porter jr payton III and the others really matters under kerr

[@prod.snqwfall1347]

Ben Simmons in Games 5, 6, and 7 against the Hawks is in the running for the worst three game stretch in the history of professional basketball. The guy came off a stretch where he made 3 All Star games, an All NBA team, and was top 3 in DPOY voting for a super relevant team, and turned into the Sixers’s 7th man in the span of 2 weeks

[@brycetheoddball]

I know it’s expiring but to me the worst contract In league has always been Tobias Harris. When they paid him $180 million it was worse than when the hawks paid Joe Johnson $120 million for 6 years in like 2010.

[@Cultivated.]

Joe Johnson was the best player on multiple playoff teams bro, Harris has been the 3rd best on a team that can’t make the conference final, the Johnson contract wasn’t that bad comparatively

[@brycetheoddball]

@@Cultivated. Then why did the hawks trade him 2 years after giving him 6 years and $120 million dollars

[@treytholen873]

Iso joe is a dawg. Don't get it twisted

[@CraigRLada]

I love Jordan Poole. I get to watch NBA basketball for under 10 bucks live in DC right now.

[@SMOOTHJESÚS]

😂

[@MrScroogedmcduck]

Ahhh. Now I going to museums and HOOPS

[@SamwiseXIV]

As an Australian, I can confirm that Ben Simmons is not well-liked in Australia. He's the antithesis of everything we want in an Aussie athlete, no heart or desire whatsoever. Always says he wants to play for the national team at every major tournament before pulling out last minute. Wouldn't surprise me if he gets offered a deal by a team in our NBL purely because he's a 'big name', but guarantee he'll be booed in most arenas.

[@manideepkondeti9192]

Sorry brah Aussies have no heart or desire in anything. He’s a good representation of Australia

[@andu1854]

You should ask Volkanovski to go beat some sense into him (I have a feeling that UFC fighter makes your country proud

[@PrettyRickyDanko]

Who would you say is the most loved player in Australia?

[@pitakon]

Mami

[@firefistace6407]

It's hard to believe that he has the same Aussie spirit as the Aussie cricketers who have tormented our Indian cricket team in all the big moments

[@JPaw-ud5pk]

Wos really thought cam johnson was cam thomas. Very clearly doesn’t watch the NBA then

[@adeyinkaeniayedun9420]

Don't know what happened there with Wos. Other than that, seems pretty knowledgeable about a lot of the teams.

[@SomeChink]

Wos just says things That’s his schtick

[@synapse913]

No one over 35 actually watches the NBA these days. We catch highlights, look at some stats. That’s about it.

[@shorewall]

@@synapse913 I thought you said "no one under 35 actually watches the NBA these days." Both are true. :D

[@cajxii1]

Wos making the pod go for half hour longer than it needed to be

[@patrickhanlon2325]

Favourite pod every year

[@liferealgood]

This is my favorite series of his. Last years was hilarious. I’m about hop on a flight but I’m downloading this one. I can almost predict Ben Simmons is #1 overall followed by Beal.

[@johnnytimestamp8224]

34:02 Fuccing can't play over 60 games. so disingenuous 60 games in a 82 game season is 73.17% games played. Guess what?? 2019-20 & 2020-21 seasons they played 72 games not 82. Bradley Beal: 2019-20 Washington Wizards 57/72 = 79.17% Bradley Beal: 2020-21 Washington Wizards 60/72 = 83.33%

[@dvowls120]

Why all the negative comments? This was hilarious and wildly entertaining.

[@zachcunningham9054]

I think those haters didn’t finish the vid and just want to complain

[@pstratos7]

I mean the video is pretty negative why not have the comments mirror that

[@KwisBwown]

did you guys get the vax?

[@xencloud]

I've been waiting for this podcast since last year! This combo of people. It needs to be done twice a year.

[@LiamborninDC]

21:30 About Poole handling being punched with "grace". This is very common with victims of violence and so is the depression that follows when their abuser is not held to account. The fact that Draymond Green was not suspended by the league nor his team because they wanted him there for the ring ceremony at the first game of the season is unacceptable. Everyone involved in those decisions from Adam Silver, to the owners of Warriors, to the GM at the time Bob Myers, to Steve Kerr, Curry, Klay, etc should be questioned for how much shame they feel for supporting a physical abuser over a victim. Until they all admit to their wrong doing without caveats. The way that Draymond Green likes to put caveats to downplay his actions is so gross and beyond not okay. All those people need to shout in Draymond's face that he was in the wrong until it gets through his thick skull.

[@danieljoyce4015]

This is a great take.

[@donaldhermann2121]

This is the NBA, not a regular tuesday in the suburbs, this isnt a normal occupation, rules get bent.

[@sammyttheg412]

Nothing new draymond had two outrageous attacks this year on gobert and nurkic he pushed donovan mitchell out of the air and should've been gone for the year minimum. They still cry about him being suspeneded in 16 finals and say it was because he hit lebron. Saying nothing of his multiple groin attacks that same playoffs he was suspened because he got his 16th technical foul

[@berniekerns4281]

This would hold water... if every one else on the team didn't want to punch him too...pooles terrible play isn't about the punch... that's psychobabble. He displayed the exact same deviant behavior and unbalanced play in their championship run...he just had a one off where many crazy 3's went in... go back and watch how many banker 3's he made...how many rattled around and fell in... his percentage was literally 10% higher than it really should have been.

[@LiamborninDC]

@@berniekerns4281 "Deviant behavior"? His other teammates desire to punch him in the face does not justify Green punching a coworker in the face. As for his play, it actually picked up the last month of the season for the wizards. In fact with how poorly Beal played in the playoffs along with his terrible contract, CP3 retiring, the Wizards probably won the trade getting Poole.

[@Chief1887]

This was amazing… entertaining & funny!!! 😁

[@Jeffberg42]

The Raptors began taking the 'God bless' option with Fred Van Vleet.

[@ronaldlo8818]

Way before that. They let Serge Ibaka and Kyle Lowry (essentially) walk in years prior. They also actively wanted Fvv, they just got outbid by Houston.

[@Marlobang]

This is my favorite thing every year….can’t wait to watch big Wos laugh

[@davidcasciari1989]

Foreshadowing with Minnesota jumbo package beating Denver, props

[@sammyttheg412]

Rewatching this an Woz picking Sabonis is ridiculous. Dude is 20 14 and 8 this year. If he was on the block kings are getting good young players and 3 or 4 1sts so clearly hes not on one of the worst contracts in the nba

[@killerk3431]

FINALLY, HERE WE GO BOYS

[@ken58763]

KAT over Ayton is craaazy. At least KAT contributes to winning and cares about basketball

[@12gark]

Well to be fair, KAT is due much more money and he's older. Plus he missed a billion minutes in his life due to any kind of bad luck humanely possible. Ayton is at least healthy for the most part.

[@JalenRawley]

I'm almost 40 minutes in, second Bulls pick, and they're questioning the decision to extend Vooch and I have to pause it to comment. The Bulls front office has been the absolute worst and it has been indefensible. Lonzo goes down and they do nothing, absolutely nothing to bring someone in to fill the hole. Well, there's a ton of guards on the roster and it opens up space for Coby White and Alex Caruso, except both were dealing with injuries throughout. I think it was last season that started with Patrick Williams hurt, it's hard to tell when it's been multiple years of not filling glaring holes in the depth chart. Now Patrick Williams is not Tim Duncan, he's not revolutionizing the power forward position, but when he went down with his injury the Bulls had exactly ZERO power forwards on the roster. "Well, what about Vooch?" He was still starting at center. Even if you move Vooch to your starting PF and have Drummond start at center, there's ZERO power forwards and ZERO centers on the bench now! And with Lonzo out and Coby dealing with his injury at the time, there were ZERO point guards on the roster. Caruso, LaVine, Dosunmu... sure, they can fill in but they aren't point guards. When they picked up Patrick Beverly at the deadline it was a eureka moment, "Oh! They were waiting for the right guy!" And they let him go to Philly, while Lonzo and Coby were still out. Then they pick up Jevon Carter and it was like, "Yes! They get it!" but then they don't play him. We can question decisions made to pick up certain guys all day long, argue over which guy to get and not to get, but when your depth chart is ZERO point guards, ZERO power forwards and ZERO centers on your bench, what in the absolute flying fuck are you doing? They've got DeRozen as the PF right now, Caruso at the SF, Torrey Craig is the backup PF. Why even play the games? Just let everyone go home and we'll pull an NBA 2K and simulate the rest of the season so they can get their middling draft pick and whiff with that too. These meatheads are making Paxson and Heard look like geniuses in comparison. I've been a Bulls fan my whole life but this is inexcusable. I have been voting with my participation, I have not and will not watch one minute of Bulls basketball this year. This isn't tanking, this isn't a strategy, this is incompetence and ignorance and I will not be a part of it. I'll do the same thing next year if they don't bring in anyone to fill these positions. I'm not looking for a championship team, hell I don't even care if they make the playoffs or win a single game... let's start simple, let's just try and put together a complete roster first. We don't need to talk about blowing it up and starting over, we need to START first. Fill a depth chart and then we'll worry about actually playing basketball games.

[@SMOOTHJESÚS]

I wish I could like this comment 578,876,111 times. Bulls advocate life long. Thank God for the Mike years. Sat through the Tim Floyd era. The nonsense of the early to mid 2000s. The Based Rose era. The fact that they didn’t build the best team around Rose (SG and PF positions). The nonsense that happens now. For Lonzo to be signed (obvious signing and fit at the time) and for us to be flat out awful since he’s been hurt…the LaVine nonsensical signings when clearly his teammates despise him… plus everything you eloquently listed and stated… I understand. I don’t even watch them mfs anymore. I caught the end of the Pacers game the other night when DeRozan did what he does to the Pacers. It’s bad. Hope you like baseball. Cubs season begins and the Bears seem to be turning the tide with Kevin Warren and Ryan Poles PAUSE tandem. It’s beneficial. Its improvement. New stadium on the way and it’s also lakefront. Arlington Heights dropped that ball. If you’re not a Cubs and Bears fan then it’s gonna be rough

[@JalenRawley]

@@SMOOTHJESÚS Nope, not a baseball fan at all. 10 minutes of excitement packed into three and half hours. I liked playing baseball, I'd go see a game in person any time, but I couldn't care less how many of the 6,000 money-grabbing games there are in a season they've actually won. I'm a South-Siders, so I always followed the Sox more, but I was never a Cub hater. I didn't watch any of the Cubs world series games, but I would never root against them either. And I was out on the NFL a long time ago too. Too many players, zero loyalty anywhere. And don't get me started on the Bears and quarterbacks. They've had ONE good quarterback in the entire history of the franchise and it's like they don't know what the quarterback is supposed to do. "Passing? Fuck that, this is Chicago. We do things the way we've always done things. Now here's your leather helmet and Chuck Taylors, get out there and run the ball while whistling Count Basie songs." I was remodeling my aunt's living room last year during the game where that D2 QB from West Virginia or whatever had that breakout game. She put on the game for my friend who had come along to help, and I wasn't paying any attention to it when they were talking about the great job this guy was doing, and hearing the cheering and I was like, "Wait, the Bears DRAFTED a quarterback? That's holy shit #1. And he's actually good?! That's holy shit #2! And they're actually playing him? That's holy shit #3! And they're actually THROWING THE FOOTBALL?!? That's a holy fucking shit of the highest caliber, and now I know that life is truly a simulation and we are in the Matrix." Oh, and even though I'm sure the Blackhawks suck, I stopped watching NHL because when they were in the Finals the last time, you couldn't watch most of the games unless you paid for it. My friend is a rabid Penguins fan and he kinda got me into watching hockey for a little while, and when the Blackhawks were in the Finals I was like, "Hell yeah I'll support them! Go Chicago!" But then they can't even get their games on network television? Not even on a cable network that isn't pay per view? Nuh, fuck that, they're not any more of a sport to me than watching junior varsity high school curling. It's okay though. You have no idea how much free time you've got, how much shit you get done, and all of this extra money you get from not paying any attention to sports. As I'm typing this, I'm literally surrounded by Bulls memorabilia. To my right are framed, autographed 8x10s of, in order, Jordan and BJ Armstrong, Jordan Pippen and Rodman, Pippen, Pete Myers, Will Perdue, Jordan, Kukoc, Rodman, Kerr, Luc Longley, Paxson hitting the Phoenix shot, BJ Armstrong, Ron Harper, Randy Brown, Jordan kissing the center court logo, Jud Buechler, and Jordan superimposed over a picture of the Chicago stadium. Got a Chicago stadium brick over on the shelf, along with a 6"x6" piece of the Chicago stadium floor (of the paint, of course), signed jerseys, an actual licensed Benny The Bull mini doll, and on and on and on... Those could be all guitars hanging on that wall instead. That could be a new car out front. You get a whole life back when you stop watching sports! I still was following the Bulls though and I supported them through all of the losing years. I went to games, I bought shit, I watched every game I could. But when the front office flat out refuses to fill a roster, buddy I'm out. Not a minute, not a dollar this year. We'll see what they do to lead up to next year. They pull this shit again, I'm gonna have free time and free money again for another season!

[@blancosmoke]

Very well thought out and put together. I read 2 sentences and continued to scroll down

[@JalenRawley]

@@blancosmoke Reading's hard, right?

[@alexreadscomics6607]

Ben Simmons is the Roman Reigns of awful NBA contracts.

[@jasonwick4714]

ACKNOWLEDGE ME!!!!!😂😂😂

[@jacobesnard]

Is that also a nod to how little he plays

[@JJ_5289]

I have not been following it much since he left philly. Does he actually have a real back injury or does he just not want to play?

[@Kagemusha08]

@@JJ_5289 Seems like it's both. He wouldn't have gotten surgery if he was just faking it. But he hasn't really shown and desire to get back to his previous level or even play.

[@JJ_5289]

@@Kagemusha08 It just seems odd to me that there has been two surgeries for a back injury that a lot of people have been able to work through without surgery. im sure he is in pain bbut he does have access to the best non surgical treatments in the world. Then the agent came out and said its his fault. weird situation

[@brycewinnier]

Honorable mention: Monty Williams

[@rhar3802]

Absolutely shoulda been up there

[@maartenvz]

This comment aged like fine wine, well done sir!

[@davincerica7232]

1:26:53 Wos knows so much about basketball that he thinks Cam Johson is Mikal Bridges

[@BrewstaGreen]

34:54 “the only way to beat them is to outscore them”. Correct, Bill

[@melvinwright4184]

AD and Sabonis???????? Are y'all wilding 😂? Both guys are All-NBA level players and in the Top 5 of minutes played this 2023-24 NBA season. Either of them being taken in this draft is ridiculous, but both of them?????????? Despicable

[@hendog5396]

The AD pick is just true.

[@musestarlight1]

Your mom true ho too

[@psuley1977]

Love these every time

[@deepaknambisan3251]

Listening now. Last year’s is a stone-cold ReListenable 👏🏾👊🏾💪🏾

[@LLPOF]

You should do a lottery with 3 ping pong balls a month before this as an annual edition. I'm telling you Jerry, it's gold. Pure gold.

[@johnnytimestamp8224]

17:45 this didn't age well already. Green is not leaving Rockets any time soon

[@myozimandis]

I was worried this wasn't coming out this year :)))) this is the funniest event of the year, thanks Bill

[@taylor6466]

I've been waiting for this pod for a while 🙏

[@awsomealex24]

The MPJ thing might be true, that he's a bit over payed, but the criticism of him not being the Klay type, that he's going to ask for more touches, that's completely unfounded and to the contrary from any of the reporting and interviews done. He knows his place within the offence, he continues to improve, he's only 25, and has now completed the most games he's played in a single season, likely more than your favorite player.

[@AbdullahFarhanLife]

Think he needs more aggressive and figure out ways to create his own shot.

[@paulwilliams5500]

This trio were the voices of much needed joy during COVID. Always awesome to listen to these guys talk ball.

[@eckhas2524]

Been waiting for this one, great tradition!

[@SuperNova23333]

If Bradley Beal isn't on here I swear.....

[@cmac392]

of course he is $161MM for the next 3yrs of Bradley Beal ...He hasn't played over 60 games since 2018-19 season

[@Kagemusha08]

He is. Still have no idea how the Wizards thought that was a good idea. Even if you wanted to give him the max why would you throw in the no-trade clause? That's why they got such an underwhelming package: no other teams even bothered because they knew Beal could veto it. Steph fuckin Curry didn't get a no trade clause but you're going to give one to Beal?

[@Sam19509]

He is a third banana who is paid like SGA was the best take. Beal also has a no-trade clause so Suns will never be able to trade him somewhere purely for salary dump reasons like Miami traded Lowry.😂😂

[@robertriteman3227]

so he will never be eligible for MVP 🤣@@cmac392

[@johnnytimestamp8224]

@@cmac392 34:02 Fuccing can't play 60 games. so disingenuous 60 games in a 82 game season is 73.17% games played. Guess what?? 2019-20 & 2020-21 seasons they played 72 games not 82. Bradley Beal: 2019-20 Washington Wizards 57/72 = 79.17% Bradley Beal: 2020-21 Washington Wizards 60/72 = 83.33%

[@danielshaltes911]

Between co-signing the Fox pick in this a few years ago & taking Sabonis now, I'm starting to think that Wos just doesn't watch Sacramento.

[@Ranblv]

picking sabonis is really ridiculous. nba leader on rebounds and great passer.

[@Sam19509]

It is because his contract like Lillard is not going to age well.😂😂

[@Zarbon000]

It was fun to root against Poole when he was on the Warriors. And how he plays way out of control. But now, it’s just sad. I don’t root against him anymore.

[@davidhodgin8900]

Love this show

[@mattmorse9521]

Moving forward you can disregard anything Wos says about basketball after those Sabonis comments. Since January he leads the NBA in assists, rebounds, double-doubles, and triple doubles.

[@TheMicklachey]

Cam Johnson never dropped 40 three games in a row. Apparently wos doesn’t know the difference between Cam Johnson and Cam Thomas. Embarrassing

[@ou8428]

Don't worry, he'll just respond to your legitimate criticism by annoyingly and awkwardly laughging at something that is not even 1% funny and that'll distract the room on how dumb he is

[@robertweekes5783]

Loved the chat! Subbed 👍🏼

[@Twhyte96]

What is going on with my favorite sports podcasts? In the last day I’ve heard AD or Kawhi over Tatum for first team all NBA, Sabonis in a worst contracts draft, 12 different episodes of lakers or warriors coverage in one of the most competitive seasons we’ve had in a decade plus….. am I losing my mind?

[@leyeakinnadeju8973]

Wow Bill called it that Minnesota can eliminate Denver in the playoffs

[@isseali6883]

And he called Kat to the knicks trade

[@xaviershelviejohnson5771]

The sabonis hate is crazzzzzy. Dude is a building block on a 50 win team, one of if not the best rebounder in basketball. Elite offensive player and slightly plus defender. Thats the market for a dude at that production. Its just hate frim wos

[@intravenousradio]

Jerami grant is good enough to be a trade asset other teams want, but bad enough that you'll be a lottery team if he's your best or second best player

[@TheRealUcanUwill]

Does he hurt his team on the boards? His rebound numbers are all time badish, for a big I mean.I know he is not traditional Power forward, but he plays at that position.

[@anthonytrevino3191]

He’s like a 4th best player on contender

[@Warrentertainment]

Wos, I respect you bro, but Sabonis belongs nowhere near this list. What are we doing?

[@anycoveryoulike7510]

So happy to see this video come out!

[@DW-rs1pr]

Australia does not want ben simmoms back. You guys can keep him

[@vlada]

You forgot that the jumbo package didn't have to deal with Aaron Gordon. BIG difference.

[@12gark]

No just Gordon. Kcp over Gary Harris is at least 3 more points with the same usage and same defensive impact. And 2024 MPJ is way better than 2020 MPJ, being actually useful on both ends and not just one.

[@BrigadierSolo]

As a diehard member of Heat Nation: I would trade Tyler Herro off my team for a bag of beans. He's made of glass and seems to enjoy his fashion game on the bench and IG followers more than actually playing.

[@SkiLILs]

Heatnation also. Welcome to the NBA, this is the case for most guys that get paid

[@nickgriffin8344]

My favorite podcast of the year!

[@hustheposum]

Basically after 5 they start throwing out contracts they looked at for 5 seconds.

[@hotlineblingisagoodsong]

The Jordan pool stats were crazy 😂 I'm still rocking with him but damn most travels 😂

[@liferealgood]

Yea it’s crazy that we are 60+ games into the season and he doesn’t have a clutch time assist.

[@TheRealUcanUwill]

When you get travel calls in the damn NBA of all places, thats a damn skill.

[@hotlineblingisagoodsong]

@@liferealgood not one is crazy he a super hero

[@hotlineblingisagoodsong]

@@TheRealUcanUwill 😔😂😂 every city he traveling

[@oliverg8085]

Great great show. House ftw!

[@scruffythejanitor1969]

Sleeper pick:Zeke Nnaji. He's literally just a salary match contract for a team that could use a solid bench big - which Zeke just hasn't been consistently.

[@oohellyaa08]

1:11:07 “he is taking it so freaking serious 💅 💅💅”

[@cameronchiesa1031]

The bit about Kuzma made me laugh the most! Great pod!

[@urthpainter]

love this segment

[@Tomatobasil-v9y]

I know it was a different front office but how did brooklyn practicaly danny ainge themselves again

[@randyandino1775]

Comparing playing with Trae Young to playing with Lebron James is a window on Bill subconscious 😂😂. Lebron is not fulfilling his expectations. The most scrutinized athlete of the last 25 years doesn’t get blame enough. 😂 great podcast any way.

[@jgrefrath]

Really trying to understand the bias against Sabonis. Agreed that he is probably more of a power forward than a center, but his defense is solid, he’s running the offense, his triple and double doubles are historically high, and the Kings will make the play-in at a minimum. Nobody outside of Sacramento is hyping him, so he’s not overhyped. Why is everyone consistently down on him?

[@SkiLILs]

Wos has a euro/white bias. Go back and listen to the pods, it's pretty clear and these sentiments are shared by many media members

[@henryhall298]

Portland fan here.... first 40 games of the season DA was trying less than post injury Nurk.... Ayton last 15 games has been revolutionary. Like Duop Reath was my favorite player until the last month dude is trying and its transformative hope he keeps it up

[@nuggz720]

MPJ was the first or second pick the year after he signed his max contract extension. Now he is just consider a quality role player who still has an even higher ceiling. Let's go Nuggets!

[@br548]

Dude thinks Sabonis is 6'8"

[@tonytooshort]

I can't believe Andrew Wiggins JUST turned 29

[@SuspectAccount]

Daymn, the monopoly money figures they're talking about.....crazy.

[@Sbock86]

I'm an Australian. We don't want Simmons in our league or in our country or in our national team. He is the antithesis of the kind of athlete we are proud of.

[@johnnytimestamp8224]

34:02 Fuccing can't play 60 games. so disingenuous 60 games in a 82 game season is 73.17% games played. Guess what?? 2019-20 & 2020-21 seasons they played 72 games not 82. Bradley Beal: 2019-20 Washington Wizards 57/72 = 79.17% Bradley Beal: 2020-21 Washington Wizards 60/72 = 83.33%

[@Dan-ri9hw]

Picking Kat was stupid. Yeah he’s overpaid, but if you have a potential championship team you should pay everybody. They said getting Rudy was a bad idea which I too thought but if it works it works. They might as well throw these guys money now because they won’t have as much money to throw around once they have to start paying ant big bucks

[@keithdale984]

How is Tobias Harris not on here ? Should be top 5

[@lintahpius1112]

That 2019 draft was a mess. There's no one in that draft that is a star. From one injury problem to another.

[@Jaywrites23]

23:27 Zach Lavine was in the 2015 draft, he is in his 9th year in the league, not 10th

[@DJCloroxx]

There's gonna be so many albatross contracts in 2 years that I'm pretty sure next lockout/ strike will result in one amnesty contract per team.

[@davidl5613]

Anthony Davis is the best defender in the NBA. 3rd in rebounds , 5th in blocks, 16th in points. And an NBA champion. Thats not a bad contract.

[@1800LUNATIC]

Last season Terry Rozier shot 32.7% from 3 on 8 a game, so he is also on the list at 17:24

[@tj-23]

And he’s actually helping his team win games..

[@sisepuede5612]

bro I agree that Ben Simmons has a terrible contract, but listening to House at 8:00 be like "he doesn't want to play basketball" is stupid. Nobody in their right mind would get back surgeries if they absolutely didn't have to. Maybe he had an argument when Simmons wasn't playing with the mental health thing (maybe), but it's totally off-base with the back stuff.

[@TheRulersBack18]

when ppl say shit like that, i want them to have a major surgery. i 100% agree with you. the mental health thing is easy to laugh at (while telling us that we're more evolved now and take mental health seriously), but having back surgery is an entirely different animal

[@BigBoyToys-ce5qg]

The back surgery has nothing to do with whether he wants to play basketball. If he needs it then he needs it, regardless of whether he's going to be playing in the NBA. Meanwhile, he has actively sat out multiple seasons, has shown zero improvement since he entered the league, has not improved his jump shot, was apparently a terrible teammate and locker room presence who didn't interact with his teammates, etc etc. The dude clearly doesn't actually like or care about basketball very much.

[@louisb5766]

With some of these contracts drafted, clearly homerism how brown isn’t put on the list. What is he the fourth best Celtic player?

[@Two-ToneMoonStone]

Honestly I'm so happy someone said the CJ thing aloud, his contract has been horrendous and is part of the reason why Dame was never fully in the hunt.

[@deadarmd]

Say what you want about Poole and we all have. That was a vicious sucker punch that obviously badly concussed him. He took punches after being out likely. The story on what was said at the moment he may not even have a say in.

[@Tomatobasil-v9y]

I think Poole is just having some major trust issues. Imagine being a young player unexpected but performs great and the vets took him under his wing. Then one those vets knocked him out, and the GM trades you! Imagine that feeling. He looks like he don't want to be on the court

[@gregnielson7975]

Ayton blew his career crying his way out of Phoenix. Phoenix blew it by drafting Ayton & not taking Luka. 😤

[@him4882]

Sabonis fouls and travels 5 times a game. It’s not AD fault. He has to step up to cover monk and fox because they blow by the guards and also drop back to guard sabonis. On top of that they expect him to get 25+. NOBODY is required to do so much offensively and defensively in the league right now. Get my guy a legit center that can space the floor. Brook Lopez would’ve been so perfect man.

[@SMOOTHJESÚS]

This is a good argument unlike others I’ve seen With that said AD ain’t worth 60M

[@him4882]

@@SMOOTHJESÚS yes he is. Look at who’s making 60m. He does EVERYTHING for the team. 25 and 12 with 3 blocks a game. Stop it. His PER is 30+ as well. Just build a team that suits his style and you’ll see him do even better. The moment he touches the ball teams swarm him because lakers have no other interior presence and they also can’t shoot 3s. Stop AD and you win the game easy. He’s a KG/Tim Duncan Prototype. Boston always had a bruiser center and the spurs when they played TD at center had a bruiser PF like Diaw who could shoot the middy and pass, extremely skilled.

[@adeyinkaeniayedun9420]

​@@him4882seems like Bill Simmons, House, and Wos were mentioning that AD IS worth the money for the next couple of years but that he most likely won't be worth the money 4 to 5 years from now. Especially looking at his injury history as well as how earlier prototypes fared (they used Jermaine O'Neal and his abrupt decline as an example).

[@candidfob8423]

Sabonis doesn't travel 5 times a game just stop, you clearly just don't like him or his dribble...

[@him4882]

@@candidfob8423 he constantly picks up his pivot and don’t get me started on the elbows and shoulder to the chest. I watch basketball buddy.

[@TheDustin151]

Just an FYI on KP with Dallas. To those that didn’t watch Dallas, KP had a higher usage rate there than he does with Boston. Dallas was tired of his injuries. So were the fans. He has been healthier and that’s great. But be careful if you are going to rely on him to make a deep playoff run. He’s never done it.

[@WizardofWestmarch]

Bruce Brown is a team option for next year so I don't see how he's an honorable mention. Toronto can punt him no assets or money lost.