Perfect timing. Need to use spacer for first time. Thanks for taking the time to make this video. This is gold. 👍
@bmws14m33 жыл бұрын
Absolute must check. People who complaint about wobble or vibration often have the wrong or cheap wheel spacers. I use BBS and H&R spacers on track only and I still check the wheel and spacers for crack or damage after EVERY track weekend. When you wash your wheel after a weekend events its not just to clean them but look for bend and cracks.
@g35mr23 жыл бұрын
Great points, and please keep in mind that even high quality spacers / wheels can be a mismatch based on how they were manufactured. 👍
@sandweiler4640Ай бұрын
Very simply presented with logical explanation. I am about to put spacers on my Mazda Mx5 ND2 for daily driving (no tracking intended ever). But I will go for sure for top of the range spacers. Price is not an issue when your life depends on it.
@dj01003 жыл бұрын
Great info! Pulling my wheels tomorrow to do this paper test. Thanks!
@gmans78593 жыл бұрын
Can only smash the Thumbs Up once. That much more attention to the details. I need to share this Immediately! My son and I are always VERY CAREFUL and VERY CAUTIOUS about the things that are between your butt and the road!
@bwedges Жыл бұрын
I'm going to say something very stupid; if a racecar can use spacer without issues, im going to put it on my road car, as long as i can find high quality spacers and proper installations. You can't stop me this time scotty!!!
@BimmerWorldMedia Жыл бұрын
Oh we certainly aren't saying NOT to run spacers, just need to make sure the ones you ARE running are safe to run. We certainly still run spacers on LOTS of cars around here whether on the street or track.
@bwedges Жыл бұрын
@@BimmerWorldMedia Oh I wasnt being sarcastic haha I am actually going into install it on my car! The scotty part refers to ScottyKilmer on yt who is always against any modifications and loves an old celica. Your explanation has helped me a lot
@abinalencheri6174 Жыл бұрын
😂Scotty 🤦🏼
@salami993 ай бұрын
great info! will use this to check new ones
@karangulati182129 күн бұрын
Great info! Thank you 🙏🏽
@stickiefinger55712 жыл бұрын
Time to start manufacturing a tool for the general public to buy and take down the material on the wheel or the spacer. Maybe large counter bore or a conical sand paper attachment on a drill.
@grantclive324527 күн бұрын
thanks for sharing.
@baduncadonk5 ай бұрын
Appreciate this video; learned useful stuff.
@pngts.g9 ай бұрын
Very simple, yet, very informative! Thanks for the video!
@karlt10 Жыл бұрын
EXCELLENT information in perfect demonstration
@TunekoLtd10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the tips.
@j_d8624 Жыл бұрын
Great video now i feel better about putting spacers on my car.
@MurkSeason3082 жыл бұрын
This is actually great info, thanks trying to put 2 inch spacers on my 06 ser
@bm_wuratli6883Ай бұрын
wow great information
@harryberry47410 ай бұрын
Refreshing to see a video on hub and lug centric spacer and more importantly the chamfer on both wheels AND spacers, I've been aware of it for a very long time and it's so important, another thing that wasn't touched on here are hub rings which can add more problems to watch out for because those hub rings chamfers have to match or be deeper than the wheel spacer. To avoid that possible issue I look for wheels that fit my hub W/O hub rings in other words hub centric wheels. A long time ago I learned something that for younger folks might not even know and that little hub that protrudes out from your axle is meant to bear the weight of your car along with centering the wheel and in the beginning aftermarket wheels were made for specific cars to fit like a stock wheel, it was difficult to find aftermarket wheels early on but then aftermarket manufactures started making the hub bore larger on their wheels and those wheels had different hub rings for different cars and here we are today just about any wheel you desire might be able to fit...remember what I said about the axle hub bearing the weight of the vehicle than think about thermo plastic type hub rings see a potential problem there? If you track your car (or Race) better stick with hub centric wheels the trend of one large hub bore for all isn't as prevalent as it once was thank god. Reminds me of "Jaws" you get in the cage, cage goes in water ...shark in water...farwell and adieu.
@gixxerhoff75023 жыл бұрын
Great Video. Nothing worse then breaking a wheel stud
@speedacademy3 жыл бұрын
Great info, thanks James!
@off-roadingexplained8417 Жыл бұрын
Thanks!!! I will definitely do this test!
@MrRGBTV3 жыл бұрын
Who knew? Great info and demo, James. Thanks for that!
@PropDeskJunkie Жыл бұрын
Wow…happy I found this. Learned something new today. Thanks Clay!
@coolname5223 Жыл бұрын
Good video.... Was/am lookin at spacers...
@cyclistman635810 ай бұрын
Interesting and informative video, kudos. One would think that the manufacturers of wheel spacers and wheels would collectively come together and standardized such a critical detail for the safety and well being of their end users. 😳 I still think wheel spacers are a bad idea for street cars for other reasons besides the issue stated here.
@2be1withU3 жыл бұрын
Great info. Apex wheel do not recommend 10mm spacers for the same reason. The part where the hub goes into the spacer may not fit flush, leaving a gap between the hub and spacer. So they recommend a minimum of 12mm. I just found this out since I broke a stud (probably from this and also did not swap out studs after certain period of time). Now I understand there is also the fitment issue between the spacer and the wheel. I will check both side of the spacer fitment, hub-spacer-wheel. I installed the Bimmerworld racestuds. A little more costly but shotpeened and each stud individually inspected.
@lukaszM46 Жыл бұрын
yeah the issue with them is that the centering ring sticking out of the hub presses against the inside of the bore of the spacer before the back of the spacer can sit on the hub surface. I heard of people that grind down 2mm of the centering ring of the hub so that the spacer can sit flush on the hub surface. I dont really see anything with that, as long as the rest of the fit is fine and you dont plan on going back to running no spacers. this problem doesnt happen on thicker spacers because their bore is deep enough to cover the whole centering ring on the hub
@Doug_Hefernen Жыл бұрын
Life saving tip!!
@hamonbagel3 жыл бұрын
James, Great seeing you this weekend @ CMP. I wish I watched this video before the weekend. After the first of three races, two studs were broken on my right front.
@mattido1233 жыл бұрын
Good info! Thx James
@dasfahrer81873 жыл бұрын
Holy crap that's great info!
@antwonefernandez75547 ай бұрын
Very informative. Nice work.
@SebastianMLN5 ай бұрын
Great video 👍👍 thank you
@stevew80955 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@pedrofradera68943 жыл бұрын
Good job
@carminecupani71872 жыл бұрын
Cool test.
@edmunekАй бұрын
meanwhile for years I am driving on the cheapest spacers. no issues. no vibration... yet.. well. you can always go pro
@jasonlockman87923 жыл бұрын
Do also use the paper test between the spacer and brake rotor hat?
@BimmerWorldMedia3 жыл бұрын
To be completely certain of any possible issues between the rotor hub and spacer it would be smart to check that as well. Same rules apply.
@scaife56682 жыл бұрын
If the spacer lip takes the load as you said how can the spacer that when on wheel moved about a bit , but you said was fine? Doesn't make sense
@jozeccav123 Жыл бұрын
Very helpful
@funkyd043 жыл бұрын
In California the paper test involves Marijuana
@Slidinsidewayz20092 жыл бұрын
Surely a "barrel grinder" approach is dodgy at best! Wouldn't the wheel need to be machined on a lathe to ensure uniformity and accuracy??
@jamesclay15952 жыл бұрын
Less dodgy than not doing it - and at the center of mass, the balance effect is minimal. But sure - if you can do it right, that's always better.
@MeesterQ2 жыл бұрын
Why not grind the spacer instead of the wheel?
@R-EVLMNKY11 ай бұрын
I know right 🤔😁
@twinturbo83042 жыл бұрын
I am taking my spacers out
@AndreiCristt6 ай бұрын
Hub centric rings are needed only for the aftermarket wheels or even for the OEM wheels ? Thank you in advance. Porsche Cayenne with OEM wheels and Japan Racing Spacers. JR Thank you for the paper info. Amazing Please reply with the hub centric rings if I need it or not for the OEM wheels.
@aaronli1639 ай бұрын
question! you mentioned using a barrel grinder on the inner wheel's hub barrel to clear the hub centric spacers. That i understand. Just wondering if it is also safe to do on the spacer instead (reduce the hub lip on the spacer). Would love to know as i much rather not cut into my inner wheel cos its much more expensive and may affect wheel balance (?)
@erwinmerida8891 Жыл бұрын
Facts!!!
@BurntOrangeHorn7823 күн бұрын
Wheels spacers is god's way of telling you that your wheels are too narrow and not of the optimal offset.
@fals13b8 Жыл бұрын
How does. The inner lug nut (spacer lug nut). End up falling out. When. The wall of the wheel is there. Theres no room for a spacer lug nut to come out ( fall off). I would say the. Stud. Broke and hence. Wheel falls off
@CarlosPerdomo10 күн бұрын
So, let me get this straight... You use spacers in race cars?
@BimmerWorldMedia10 күн бұрын
That is correct. The BMW Motorsport M4 GT4 comes from the factory with wheel spacers as do many other GT4 factory homologated racecars. If the spacers are designed correctly and mate to the wheels properly there is absolutely no danger in running them. This is what we are trying to tell people. But IMPROPER wheel spacers are as dangerous in all cases. The Pikes Peak, 1500hp car in the background of this video runs very large spacers, but they mate correctly to their Forgeline wheels and we've had not a single issue or failure throughout running that car over 4yrs up the mountain where safety is absolutely a priority.
@CarlosPerdomo9 күн бұрын
@@BimmerWorldMedia, thanks. That really makes me feel better. I own a 2024 Nissan Z and I just put spacers to bring the rims a little bit more flushed to the edge of the fender. I know that the offset part of the rim is now pushed out more. Just don't want to mess the suspension. The wheels look so much better this way. 🙏
@BimmerWorldMedia9 күн бұрын
@@CarlosPerdomo Again, every car is a different and specific situation that needs to be addressed in a safe way. We are providing a great way to make sure the spacer and wheels fit well together, but there are other areas of the car to be sure is up to the task as well. Things such as extra load/leverage on wheel bearings and suspension for sure and adequate thread engagement on your lug nuts as well of course. As long as you go about it in a safe manner and make sure its mechanically all working properly it should be fine. We certainly are not saying a blanket "running all wheel spacers are fine." here.
@CarlosPerdomo9 күн бұрын
@@BimmerWorldMedia I get it. Thanks so much for your response. I took all pertinent precautions and torque specifications. It rides good. We'll see what happens. Thank you again. 🙏
@dennisward48559 ай бұрын
i will never ever run wheel spacers...ever....
@colettedubose2 жыл бұрын
Question: I brought universal 20in Mazzi 351 hype rims for my 2015 Genesis G80 Rwd. I have a slide on 8mm spacer and the plastic hub rings 72-67.1mm which fits my car but still leaves a gap/movement still. What do you recommend?
@syjdmzx Жыл бұрын
no part of this area should be plastic, especially if you are saying that your hub centering insert (having this instead of a wheel with the correct Center bore is risky on its own) is plastic
@massgrave8x9 ай бұрын
@@syjdmzx incorrect, friend. the vast majority of hub centric rings are plastic, they are very popular. there are fancy aluminum ones but they are unnecessary. they strictly center the wheel, while the lug nuts/bolts/studs will do the actual clamping and bearing of weight. enkei and other reputable wheel companies sell plastic hub centric rings.