Bimotal Elevate First Look - Convert any bike into an ebike!

[@EbikeEscape]

What's your take on this innovative ebike conversion kit? Share below 👇

[@figjamuk]

I would love one but unfortunately the price point is too high. Great idea though and I love the fact you could swap between bikes also. being someone that has 2 MTB's that would be fantastic. It also looks 1000% better than some of the E-bike conversion kits out there. But as I said I could buy an e-bike for not much more.

[@gzig61]

Great idea but the $1950 price tag is a no go

[@SolarizeYourLife]

Yes, seriously, you can buy a whole ebike for less than that... Have the system less then $1000, you might have a go competing with dyi middrive systems...

[@Kay0Bot]

Its targeted at mtb community, where emtb start at 3400 usd but average is 5 -7k.

[@davidtinnerello1524]

Wtf? I expected maybe 400 bucks.

[@Sadiq2355t]

In this price, ours go on bike

[@MARSHOL_UA]

​@@Sadiq2355tУ мене велосипед за 1000$ 500w 36v 30 ампер батарея і швидкість не більше 40 і проїжає 50 кілометрів .

[@greadore]

Seems like this would wear out and or cause undo stress on the rotors. Also, I went to their website and this system sells for $2,000. Why would anyone pay that kind of money when you can get a whole and good bike for that amount of money with a more powerful motor? Am I missing something?

[@JT-nc5ib]

The rotor is designed with this stress in mind, but I agree that really only time will tell. BiMotal has people on their team that are no strangers to R&D, so I know it has been tested. Also while I agree the system isn’t cheap, getting a good electric ebike is not going to happen for anywhere around $2k. I think the appeal is also more towards the people who ride on trails where ebikes are no allowed. So you would be able to ride the same bike, and switch it between eMTB and non Electric quickly. Another big selling point is the total weight. Which is more important in the MTB space then commuting.

[@greadore]

@@JT-nc5ib Thank for the comment. Hopefully the rotor will hold up, but as you say, only time will tell. I disagree on not being able to get a good Ebike for anywhere around $2k, there are many very good Ebikes for this price, especially if you factor in the additional power I get. I hear you about people riding MTBs on trails, that is an area I am not into or very familiar with. Time will tell and I wish them all the luck in this endeavor.

[@JT-nc5ib]

@@greadore oh you are correct. I meant eMTBs, there are some very nice ebikes you can get for around $2k. Rad Power and Vvolt immediately come to mind. And I agree, you get some much more powerful bikes for that price also. This product is definitely geared (pun intended) for MTBs currently, but I am willing to get they have some big plans for how to evolve this system in the future.

[@coesforever1735]

@@greadore yup. I bought a second hand excellent condition Trek XM700+ for 800 bucks and I love it!!

[@2309-g4y]

​ @greadore I spoke to the Bimotal folks at Sea Otter. The Elevate is aimed to compete with eMTBs at the top end of the market, up there in the $14k range. The idea is you can take your existing 26lb carbon FS MTB, which you love riding, and turn it into a top spec. eMTB for $2k, rather than putting down $14k or whatever on a whole new eMTB, and then maybe having too many bikes to fit in your apartment. Looked at that way it makes a lot more sense, to me at least. 750W/100Nm, is plenty enough for me. In my case, I have a nice full-rigid adventure bike, custom stainless frame, it cost almost $7k a few years back, weighs about 20lb. For $2k I can turn that into a kickass 26lb adventure ebike. For me it's a good deal cuz I can't afford $9-10k for a new bike these days, and I like that I can remove the Bimotal system in less than a minute for flatland riding on a 20lb bike.

[@Nighthawk20000]

Super curious about the wear on that wheel. Such a clever idea though! Weight reduction alone is huge

[@EbikeEscape]

The wear would be on the gears next to the disc brake. But yeah, it is pretty clever!

[@amandeeproy2565]

which bike you are using in this video

[@EbikeEscape]

That is a good question. I don't remember - it was one of their demo bikes.

[@StewBrew-y7t]

Should do a dual set

[@NegativeSpacesPositiveEntropy]

Like a 2wd front and back?

[@sozoren]

It looks great but price is way too expensive. Hope after mass production price will drop drastically.

[@EbikeEscape]

Agree!

[@lewis2360]

Perfect - now supply to UK and make it fit my recumbent bike!

[@caseyl3631]

Please show how to mount the gear sprocket this thing mates to

[@vmao4868]

Definitely interesting. But waiting for the pedal-assist version. And please drop the price.... $2K is too much.

[@EbikeEscape]

My guess is that it's possible the cost will drop once they get to mass production. That is definitely a sticking point with this system. Still there was a lot of interest in the product and I even talked to one person who had already put the money down for it.

[@coesforever1735]

2k for that system? Too much! I bought a second hand excellent condition 2018 Trek XM700+ for 800 bucks and I love it!

[@ishmaelmayor6738]

How about climbing, is it going To be a help, especially on mountains.

[@kkmixtv2432]

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[@Gamer.playedz]

Where can I buy send link pls

[@bobby0panganiban]

Nice idea, but for the price I can buy a REI Citi 2.1 with mid drive Bosc motor and still have 500 bucks left in my pocket. Don't get me wrong, it's a good product just super over priced. According to the website it's $1,950.00 purchase price.

[@TJMTBChannel]

This is designed for EMTB, where the bikes start at $6000

[@vinnybruno6228]

I would be very interested in putting one on this. This is my ‘91 and have had it since new. Now I’m old , broken-up and retired. I did my best to restore it but just don’t have it anymore. 30years is a long time in manual labor years

[@EbikeEscape]

It's a very cool system.

[@ambiorixcastillocina2730]

Can you use some of this for regeneration braking; or maybe to charge the battery?

[@joserafael524]

Onde comprar este equipamento

[@typowyb4list458]

Props to the cameraman for keeping up with the pace 💯

[@edwardjeffries4540]

It's a gopro mounted to rear of bike.

[@typowyb4list458]

@@edwardjeffries4540 I genuinely refuse to believe that.

[@Maneviyatımız_ve_Değerlerimiz]

Can I install this electric motor on the wheels of my bike trailer?

[@EbikeEscape]

Ha I mean maybe?! But you'd be really hacking something together

[@nick_john]

I’m not sure that quick release is gonna be secure enough for when you get into some serious chunk.

[@qwaerl]

Bro where can i find this!?

[@Watto1505]

How much is it

[@samibenghbalia6296]

Is it water proof

[@user-ph4rx5ex9q]

How much is this?

[@gogutzy]

my calipers are on the inside of the frame, no room to mount it. can i fit this to the front wheel?

[@EbikeEscape]

I believe they just came out with a kit to mount this in the front.

[@anandaraj380]

How much

[@chewchew74]

Anyone could spend $2000 gadget on existing bike will just buy whole new E-bike which they look cool and getting cheaper. If this thing is under $1000 then maybe I would think about give transformation to my old 36LB trail bike.

[@Keepler22b]

I can get a Momas ultimate 80nm/940Wh battery for 1800 dollar on sale where I live. Very good bike.

[@jime9305]

You might mention weight? range? projected cost? Just little things like that

[@EbikeEscape]

Hi Jim, yes we didn't get too in depth but I left the link in the description for those interested to delve easier. Range is definitely tricky given this won't necessarily be used like other ebikes at least as the product stands with just throttle. You are correct though, I could have included more.

[@jime9305]

@@EbikeEscape Good enough...thanks

[@MTBTrekRoutes]

This is actually useful. I don’t think the intension with this is to go downhill with it on but actually to help you ascend nicely and then take it off and literally descend on the normal bike and put this in your backpack. Its purpose seems to be for generic riding on roads or climbing technical terrain

[@rickywoods3101]

Are you sure it would do well on technical climbing being that it only has 50nm of torque without any mechanical advantage that a mid drive would have ?

[@MTBTrekRoutes]

Mid drive is 100% much better. 50nm of throttle only power along with pedalling might be enough but yeah mid drive is superior. Think it’s just made to give you a little boost that’s all. Too expensive though. It’s like £2k. You can get a trek marlin mid drive with 50nm mid drive bikes these days for not much more than this motor

[@matthewtoes6433]

Is it possible to have two one on the front for 2WD AND COULD YOU DESIGN THEM SO THEY CAN BE INCREASED TO 47 MPH BUT DONT ADVERTISE THIS OPTION ITS COULD BE A GLITCH OR DIFFERENT SOFTWARE FOR HIGHER SPEEDS MAKE THE BATTERY'S 110 VOLTS

[@ipaporod]

I wonder how long those small gears inside the unit will last , lots of stress on those tiny gears!😮😢

[@EbikeEscape]

Only time will tell for sure. The founder is an old Tesla employee, so I have some faith. Worth looking into for you, check how small the gears are inside of a rear hub motor. Surprised me when I learned they were essentially made out of plastic.

[@kaltonian]

I am liking this...have been looking at the skarper to,

[@freedo64]

I wonder what the range is?

[@EbikeEscape]

It would be interesting to know range but it's tricky since this isn't exactly a product tailored to someone who is just going to use the throttle. Now range in various pedal assists levels once available would be super interesting. Remember the battery is quite small.

[@peterthomson6161]

They should of just developed a mid drive motor. Looks like a really compact design.

[@EbikeEscape]

It would be awesome to see an American made mid-drive motor. It is surprisingly compact. Thanks for watching Peter!

[@williamnunez9609]

I'm surprised they did not incorporate it as a belt drive system, why the choice for a cog style

[@EbikeEscape]

Perhaps it's one less thing you'd need to replace if I understand what you are picturing.

[@thomas3417]

Sweet

[@EbikeEscape]

Thanks for checking out the video!

[@fatbikearcticnomad2122]

If it was a 1000 watt unit I’d buy it

[@finpark7785]

Are they planning on developing something that could work with single speed bikes?

[@EbikeEscape]

Nothing specific. This system uses the brake rotor. So you could use this on a single geared bike if it had disc brakes.

[@dtape]

Super clever way to motorize a bike.

[@EbikeEscape]

Totally agree - thanks for watching.

[@ontheroadwithyode390]

Throttle control only. No peddle assist. Only 250 watt.

[@Keepler22b]

for 1950 dollar I can get a very good ebike where I live..momas ultimate 80nm/940Wh integrated battery with mid drive Bosch 250W motor and it looks super awesome (wait for sale) Why would I buy this?

[@elliottframe21]

It’s a great idea but for £2000 I think I’ll pass I could sell my bike and with that extra £2000 get a specialised turbo levo comp for the same if not cheaper

[@Keepler22b]

jupp, was thinking the same.

[@topelite666]

absolutely favorite ebike kit ever. only complaint is the stupid small battery. when i get my unit i am going to Frankenstein my own battery to it.

[@tnig]

I hope it doesn't have can bus protocol like Bosch batteries!

[@norm8380]

Why would any one pay for so much for a kit that cost more than a e bike the kit should be way less that’s why it a kit not a hole e bike I wouldn’t waste my time on that kit you wipe out once on the left side there goes all that money down the drain then you have to buy a new disk brake and probably a new wheel . Should be about $500 like qiroll e bike kit

[@jonk8337]

I can see the appeal. Stealth ebike. One can take off the motor and the battery. Less appealing for thieves. It’s a bit pricey though.

[@woodsculptor675]

Brilliant!

[@EbikeEscape]

Agree, pretty unique design!

[@darranhanlon8709]

Ok now make the motor and battery one unit

[@michaelheckhuis8342]

Really nice...but as here mentioned before...too expensive. And i would prefer a battery in bottle style.

[@EbikeEscape]

Yeah, fits the rider that really likes their current bike where price isn't a factor

[@peterfernandezjr5914]

I don't think the rotors were designed to withstand so much stress.

[@dtape]

The attached motor engages with a gear behind the brake rotor, not with the brake rotor itself. You can see the teeth of the gear behind the rotor, which engage with the teeth of the gear seen on the underside of the motor unit.

[@chow-chihuang4903]

The original rotor looks to be replaced with a gear+rotor assembly. The rotor on that is bolted near the periphery of the large gear. It does double the number of bolts you need to check aren’t shaking loose, but the gear itself looks robust. I do wonder how the bolt holes in the hub will do, as braking forces are mostly borne by the front, and are intermittent. Then again, I usually don’t see any difference between those on front versus rear hubs.

[@EbikeEscape]

The other commenters covered it. A bit hard to see in the footage but there are extra gears behind the rotor.

[@anandaraj380]

Indian price

[@Rantanplan-0815]

For 2000dollar?with this little akku? Never ever😅who buy this?

[@TroubleshootGamingMeds]

How does this even work lol.

[@chow-chihuang4903]

Looks like the original rotor is replaced with a gear+rotor assembly. The gearmotor’s output gear meshes with the gear now bolted to your hub. I can see why professional installation is included as aligning the caliper and gearmotor properly could be fussy.

[@EbikeEscape]

A bit hard to see in the footage but there is a gear next to the rotor. If you look at the close up shots you can get a better sense of how it all works.

[@chrisylink]

Incredible I want one for my mtb so bad

[@EbikeEscape]

It's a very cool product!

[@James-c9r3e]

That turns my $3000 bike into a $5000 bike come on

[@rayskiblagblagan]

Only 500 dollar for this item not 2k dollar

[@aspunkyyacker6850]

The price is absolutely ludicrous when compared to the likes of cyc x1... And a 250wh battery is ridiculous!!! You seriously need to consider a more affordable price tag fir what you're offering and a considerably larger battery!

[@Vasileski88]

Seems a little loud...

[@EbikeEscape]

It seems comparable to powerful hub drive ebikes though I didn't test two out side by side.

[@DenzukoDomo]

2k for a device that while fits well into everyday use do not justify the price. That price one can just get a motorcycle instead.

[@frisinafrancesco2334]

For me' this kit is not worth more' than € 500 , the manufacturer has 'given many airs, but if he sold it for this price would have a flood of customers, then laughing would be a great pleasure for me too

[@archlocker]

$1950 USD... Gulp*

[@EbikeEscape]

Not cheap that's for sure

[@TonyMontoya-vr5kh]

Im a true bike rider u will never convince me two go gas or electric because how in the fuck am i ever gonna get cardio or exorcise beingbthat lazy the whole point of owning and using a bike is two lose weigh get cardio and getbthe lungs working plus when your gas or battery run out your stuck pushing roughly 45 pounds of dead weight u dont need

[@ashleynato]

Very expensive

[@Gagan00000]

Fricking 2000 dollars? Get a goddam hub motor instead its only 100$ and way cooler than this little ahhhhh

[@TonyMontoya-vr5kh]

I dont why lazy as ebike riders always pedal there bike when cleary using the electric motor like they sware they pedal the bike that fast famous words of Randy Moss come on man.

[@hurryupanddie-x3d]

What a joke. No way.

[@Madbomber2024]

Not worth thousands for that. What a laughable joke

[@konstantinyakimov1061]

$2k for this bullshit, thanks but no.

[@honestnewsnet]

Way overpriced