Binson Echorec vs Roland Space Echo

In this video I compare 3 Binson Echorecs with a Roland RE201 Space Echo.
I played a Gretsch '57 RI Duo Jet through a Fender Vibroking.
Recorded with a SM57 into a Neve 1073 to Protools. Just a little bit of reverb.
The 4 units I compared are:
0:35 Binson Echorec 2 T7E
This unit has old tubes, bad heads and the transport is not very stable.
4:31 Binson Echorec 2 T7E in good condition
9:43 Binson Echorec P.E.603-T in good condition
14:18 Roland RE-201 Space Echo in good condition
All units have a higher noise level compared to modern day delays.
I noticed on the P.E.603-T in particular, the input level is set too high which results in a distorted delay signal.

[@Vishnu-xn4vx]

Man, that 10 sec intro was magic

[@ferpesss]

This is what I'm here for

[@TheFarout69]

Thanks for posting this. Awesome.

[@TomPark1986]

Weird how the space echo has the tape just freely doing shit in the tray.

[@STEVELILLEY011117]

Too stop wow and flutter.

[@Zazou21140]

Binson has more mids, more character and a crazy mojo. The Space Echo is more sweet, less ambiant.

[@TheDanGore]

There's just something about the Roland, man... It's just got a little extra musical love to me.

[@xtra4u210]

Not true, Binsons were the King , tape echoes were crap, and compressed sound and noisy

[@robertfair1770]

I'm in the Roland RE 201 camp still super vibey

[@youpi1234]

Nostalgic SOUND 🎼🎵🎶

[@Lysergicfloyd]

Binson is a legend!!!

[@coldwar1977]

Space Echo for me

[@acervoalborghetti]

The first Binson has crazy wow and flutter

[@martynridley3671]

At one point there on the Roland, I'm sure you had the Jetsons space craft!

[@xtra4u210]

I have some Binsons for sale folks, needing a much loved Home, next to a Meazzi its the best

[@ThePinkguns]

Whats your price on one?

[@xtra4u210]

@@ThePinkguns Give me your email and will send you details please . . I have a Baby Binson, for restoration , and two larger 4 knob Echorecs. . one has new original motor so will want fitting and machine setup and calibration ( Sound City badged ) The other is Binson badged.

[@tsj7545]

Hi, please email me [e-mail]

[@Kallistosound]

@@xtra4u210 still have the binsons ?

[@xtra4u210]

@@Kallistosound Yes, where are you based ?, am in UK

[@SirKevin27]

The Roland sounds great, but it's an effect I feel like you could get with a digital emulation like the boss pedal. It's very clear. The echorec has a vibe to it thats hard to emulate. Also a comparison with a good echorec without bad heads would be more fair no?

[@DavidLenney]

The 603 has no bad heads and sounds the cleanest. In the video it was driven hard so the repeats aren’t that clean. The 2nd T7E has ok heads and sounds perfect for the things I use it for. (Guitar) The first T7E has bad heads and I don’t really use it.. The space echo I use mainly when mixing.

[@SirKevin27]

Oh right, my bad! I skipped over the second echorec. Was trying to compare the tones quickly so I was jumping between the 1st T7E and the Spacecho. I would use the two as you described as well. I'm on the search for a T7E right now. May I ask where you acquired yours?

[@DavidLenney]

I got the 2 T7E’s on ebay, the first one (with the bad heads) was located in sweden and had the drum rewound. I got it fairlycheap. The 2nd one came from Italy and was advertised as non working. I contacted the seller and he informed me that the drum was spinning and the tubes were glowing but there was no sound. When i got it, i noticed the inputs had bad connections, so I resoldered them and everything worked fine. Luckily the wiring on both T7E’s had been replaced. Watch out for ones with old wiring! They have all gone bad and are a pain to replace! The 603 I got from a guy here in the Netherlands. He had a collection of vintage echo units and had a lot of binsons. He sold me the as new 603 very cheap. I had the choice which model I wanted cause he had so many. I now regret not buyung the stereo one for the same price.. I tried to find this guy again, but unfortunately I can’t find him anymore...

[@DavidLenney]

Colin Beams I agree, the space echo shines in the studio. For live use, I just love the echorecs. It’s not tape, but a magnetic disc, and it has a whole level of depht to it that can’t be replicated by digital pedals. I tried all the emulations and they sounded great, but not the same..

[@kevinsuhr8464]

Len David I'd like to own both one day, but I just got a T7E off eBay and it's on its way. Too excited! Was thinking about getting the boonar pedal but ya... feared it wouldn't be the same and I just wanted the real thing. Much more badass!

[@i.shadrin]

Is that for sale? I'm looking for 603

[@MadeOnTape]

😍

[@fonzimendoza1979]

No comparison, Roland all the way

[@romuluscreative]

omg yea.. the follower... hmmm .. no? not even? just no Karen.. no!

[@NymphZoic68]

What produces the effect at 9:20 amp reverb?

[@FogTub]

Self oscillation. It's when the echo level is feeding back. What your hearing is the repeat rate being adjusted during this. Thought I'd answer incase you didn't get an answer in the 3 years since you posted this. Lol

[@kriz716]

Roland sounds great but Binson is best

[@TuffKaya]

Beautifully filmed.

[@frankphvrvon3153]

Wow even really like the distress binson ! And all

[@baddriddimworkshop]

Oh that's interesting, i'm about to build an external box to add to my t-rex echorec, with lfo and a slider to control speed, and with compader/frq cuts to get my echoes to sound a bit cleaner and thus, maybe not as precise as a 201, but i'm shure i can get it to make longer and cleaner echoes with feedback (at least as clean as an echoplex, the 201 is very precise and metalic in sound, the echoplex is a bit "muddyer" or lets say woobly), i'm used to doing these kinds of operations(designed and built a bunch of delay units), i even have all the circuits designed for the task. Thanks for the demo...

[@colinsvid]

Got any Binson's for sale?

[@aphextwin6]

16:56 turned me to the space echo side