Biology of the Arachnids in Star Ship Troopers Explained | Colonization, Entomology and Lore

Klendathu, Its an ugly planet. Its a bug planet. Its a planet hostile to live as we know it. But even on this barren rock, life has managed to get going and not only that, but they have naturally adapted and have been able to colonize the surrounding planets as a result. When humanity stumbles cross these dangerous beasts, they underestimate them and end up paying high price as a result. But what makes these arachnids such great hunting machines and how did they evolve on such a hostile world? lets discuss that in todays episode!
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[@RoanokeGaming]

Thanks for watching guys! I hope everyone had a great thanksgiving and lets finish out the rest of 2020 the best we can! For anyone interested, heres the link to the fourth channel! new video should be dropping on it tomorrow! kzbin.info/door/3rST8TvG4kLFzuHVYHy7Vw

[@SfRoss]

Well, feels good to be early here :>. The only good bug it's a dead bug. Also I love this movie :>

[@wreath626]

4th channels doing well i see

[@claytontindell9939]

Starship troopers is a federation with limited suffrage. It is still a form of democracy. You just have to earn the right to vote through federal service. The only people who get rejected from service, are those who the psychologists deem cannot understand the oath of service.

[@newmans191]

The reason why the asteroid hit then it's pretty simple it was relatively close and they just missed it the instead of saying that they didn't see asteroid the whole time they blamed it on the closest living species: edit just saw the whole video 😔

[@theegggod8070]

Sus

[@gearsonjackdda1798]

I love it how he keeps getting promoted when someone died.

[@RoanokeGaming]

What a way to climb the ladder!

[@wojo44frompl]

In a way it's nod to novel. In book there are instances of shifts in ranks, when some characters could be promoted or degradeted in mater of days. Of course this is during training or other instances outside combat missions. Over all film (and following sequels - both live-action and CGI animation) is loose adaptation (at best). Why Roanoke didn't even hinted that is beyond me.

[@jacobwilson7030]

Back in the day it was a real thing. All the way up to Korea, field promotions were extremely common. Guys would go to the pacific theatre as Pvts and come back as Sgts because so many NCO’s were killed in the fighting

[@WillO-sh2dz]

I do love the way the book explains the logistical training requirements to keep a field promotion. That and how it clearly defines the basic rationale behind war or trade even enslavement to a point.

[@fabrikator-generalakhilley6896]

@@jacobwilson7030 Yeah but.. Field Sarge to Butterbar when he was barely out of Basic? No Officer-school?! That just ain't gonna happen. Some might even consider it a step down! :p Just a ribbing for all the real Loo(Lef?)-tenants out there, luv ya 4 realz. :p

[@natto4now]

I like to believe that Roanoke made a video just cause a bug bite him To spite that bug

[@RoanokeGaming]

That's actually true lmao

[@jackdaalfbrainork6392]

Sounds about right

[@201doom]

@@RoanokeGaming make sure to do a video if mutant spiders start surging out of the bite.

[@theegggod8070]

Sus

[@andu1854]

I think Wasps are the jerks of the animal kingdom

[@11_EVERYTHING_OEFx2]

The knife scene does bare weight in the story. At the end she cuts the brain bug with it disabling its ability to suck out brains. The enemy’s WMD was basically disabled because it could no longer use its appendage to suck brains. Just like Zims answer to Ace, the enemy cannot push a button if you disable it’s hand. I was Infantry in the Army and there were 3 things I was told to have on me at all times; a knife, a watch, and a good pen. I would expect that even in the future, we will still be encouraged to carry a knife just because of how utilitarian knives are. Your survival chances are greatly improved by having a knife, you can tie it to a stick to make a spear for defense or hunting, you can baton wood to make a fire, you can chop branches to make a shelter. Plus you can stab someone. Again very utilitarian.

[@BloodwolfTico]

what about the pen?

[@impertin3nz]

​@@BloodwolfTicoHave you seen John Wick ? 😅

[@semperfat]

A good marine carries a pen a great marine carries two.

[@justsomejerseydevilwithint4606]

If more weapons are needed for survival or defense of a larger group, you can sharpen sticks easily if you have a knife. As long as war is fought with human soldiers, having a knife will ALWAYS be useful.

[@KillerChrono666]

Still prefer a good trench shovel, but a good knife is just as versatile

[@discounthero9972]

I eagerly await your Helldivers Termenid video. They decompose into a rare oil.

[@TheStrubble1]

I am glad I am not the only one!

[@user-xm6rg7jk7o]

Yeah. Really hope they add more Helldivers 1 terminids to Helldivers 2. Maybe some new additions too.

[@ZaydinTTV]

A vid on the Automatons (And Space Vietnam) would be good too.

[@timesathousand]

My instincts tell me that decomposing Terminids into an organic (carbon based) oil in an /efficient/ manner is biologically impossible because molecules are essentially batteries for the energy that was used to make them. It takes millions of years, high pressures and high heats to turn ~100kg of dead life into ~100kg of oil beneath the Earth's crust. Without that input of heat, pressure and time you simply couldn't turn 100kg of dead stuff into the same amount of oil. Now if you did kill 2.25 million metric tons of Terminids (roughly the total mass of ants on Earth) with a 50% conversion to oil rate you could make 8 million barrels of oil. This sounds like a lot, but the Earth in 2023 used on average 20 million barrels PER DAY. So even if that rare oil skips all of the refining costs humans currently spend on crude oil, it still would mean xenociding 2-3 planets of Terminids per day to meet some modest (by interstellar standards) energy consumption. But we do see a lot of solar panels on Super Earth, so maybe the oil is used for something different than direct energy consumption. My best bet? Space lube :)

[@loryndabenson5840]

"Medical tech is so inconsistent in this movie." In the military we call those budget cuts ☺

[@codynolan3725]

Flesh is replaceable the equipment is not (was the favorite quote we heard)

[@chuckhoyle1211]

Triage is a thing for scarce resources.

[@twoscarabsintheswarm9055]

I mean, this is a highly militaristic futuristic state so you'd think they wouldn't cut the militaries budget

[@literallyglados]

@@twoscarabsintheswarm9055 so is america (minus the futuristic) but they cut budgets all the time

[@twoscarabsintheswarm9055]

@@literallyglados America is A. Not holding the entire worlds (and most like multiple hundreds of thousands of worlds) resources B. A state based around military (it has a large military but is not ruled by the military) C. Not really cutting the budget when in 2020 they spent 778 billion USD on its military, which was 39% of the global military budget (which tallied up to 1.98 trillion USD) and that number went up, from the 718.69 Billion it spent in 2019. It is increasing the budget

[@geofff.3343]

In the book the amputee actually had perfect mechanical prosthetics. He was told not to wear them to dissuade applicants.

[@Joseph-xm4gz]

Why would that dissuade applicants I think see a man without legs would dissuade them a lot more then if they saw robotic legs

[@geofff.3343]

@@Joseph-xm4gz No one wants to lose their natural limbs. It's subconscious psychology.

[@krullachief669]

@@Joseph-xm4gz It's because of how absolutely mangled he looked without any of the prosthetics. Like, he was missing an eye, both legs, part of his arm, etc. It was to give all applicants a hard reality check on if this is the way they will go in life.

[@Xo-3130]

@@Joseph-xm4gz Because despite what idioys like to do... The Government is not fascistic. They do in fact, show you how terrible things are in hopes of making sure only people willing to take the risks and are willimg to put yourself in the way of others. They're actually a strange attempt at taking Sparta and transplanting it into a modern mindset.

[@marekmichalski9803]

@Dick Balls • 30 years ago about dissuading people from joining. If I saw mechanical prosthetics I would join definitely. Not via cyberpunk hype or anything of this sort but by 14-15 years of skin illness. The flesh is weak ^^ And about cacti. I cannot keep them alive. I had two exact cacti in one pot. First one became rotten from amount of water and second one dried.

[@shootinandstabbin]

The communication equipment requires fingers and I used to imagine the Arachnids just carefully using their claws to type in the code to send the distress code. If they screw up then they gotta start over again and brain bug just yelling at them to hurry up.

[@jfangm]

I love this.

[@ExProductions95]

Omg i never thought about that but im dying imaging one of the warriors trying to type and accidentally stabs right through the keyboard

[@TheBubbaclaw]

The funny thing is Dizzy might have lived if he left the leg in her torso. The limb was holding the wound closed. (That's why they tell you to never remove a knife that's imbedded in a stab victim until they get to the ER.)

[@tillmen4444]

As much as I wish it was true, she was stabbed multiple times before that one

[@miming3679]

Not to mention the claws were SERRATED, that bug sawed her insides multiple times 💀 Can't imagine how would they stitch that up

[@alexbibby9641]

@@miming3679 Not to mention the sheer size of those wounds, advanced space tech or not you're gonna bleed out from an injury like that before they can get you in their version of a bacta tank. Her lung was almost entirely split in half from that bug leg no doubt, she was DOA before she even got on the shuttle For context its basically the same as having a helicopter tail rotor blade stab you in the chest

[@ghoost8943]

If they had trained them for first aid then they would be able to resist the drill Sgt, lol

[@averyhaferman3474]

She was impaled about 4 times. She was dead

[@gabrieltallent1658]

The lack of strategy is actually intentional, at least on the film maker's part. The human being a large, alien invasion moving in a swarm with little to no planning or purpose, with the bugs being the ones actually using strategies to destroy the hateful invading force, it's the traditional alien vs. human story flipped on it's head.

[@The_Foxymew]

It's kind of amusing how little the movie has to do with the book, because the filmmaker HATED the book and its author, claiming them total fascists. I do wonder if that made the movie better or worse. I want to believe it makes it better, because it's basically just 'dumb fun' now.

[@gabrieltallent1658]

@@The_Foxymew There's also the idea that it's basically supposed to mimic fascist propaganda films.

[@kirbyculp3449]

Smart book. Dumb film.

[@The_Foxymew]

@@kirbyculp3449 At least it can be dumb fun, there's value in that as well.

[@carlosdgutierrez6570]

@@The_Foxymew he tried too hard to make hateful parody of the book that ended completely going all the way around and ended making a wonderful piece of dumb yet charming pro human propaganda.

[@transhumanistgamer8963]

Starship Troopers is one of the few movies where an audience can ask "Did the director even read the book?" and the answer has actually been verified as "No." Still a great movie.

[@dylanchouinard6141]

More like “Director started reading the book. Realized it was a bunch of jingoistic garbage. Then made a movie as a fuck you specifically to the book.” Edit: and by making the movie a fuck you to the book, making a much better story than the book

[@lordpfeiffer8490]

@@dylanchouinard6141 book is a superior story and i love the book. The movie is a great movie if it didn't have the name starship troopers

[@Reclusiarch_jakal]

@@dylanchouinard6141 yea your a chode dylan the book was gr8 and i always pictured the troopers like jump jet troopers from tiberium sun. awesome novel

[@abysswalker1562]

@@lordpfeiffer8490 so you like fascism? You think fascism is a good thing? Because thats all the book was about. It was not a good book by any stretch of the word and the movie was literally a satire of the book.

[@sillylittleowlguy2392]

@@abysswalker1562 literally any kind of authoritarianism is shit.

[@mdwarenycia]

Here's how I always understood the discrepancy of the opening scene with the planetary defenses. Because it starts out with the invasion and Rico yelling at the camera man, it was showing a flash forward; so we get the call to join, preview of the upgraded defenses, and then the invasion clip. Once that clip is done, it does a flash back to start telling Ricos story, where Buenos Aires is attacked before the defenses are upgraded.

[@Lorkanthal]

exactly, the asteroid defenses were constructed as a result of the first strike. The amount of people who forget that the start of the film takes place 1 year ahead of where the main story starts is baffling.

[@vladimirdragonov]

​@@Lorkanthallike it literally states in big letters "ONE YEAR EARLIER"

[@justinbaker5749]

I think the common consensus is that the asteroid was actually launched by the government as an excuse to go to war, which easily explains away that "massive plot hole". It's pretty much the 9/11 conspiracy before 9/11 happened.

[@Baldwin-iv445]

I wasn't sure if those defenses ever existed before Buenos Aires.

[@shaneregan7745]

It’s also a theory that it was a false flag attack to get support for the war. I think a lot of the “dumb stuff” people do in this movie is intentional to show how a war obsessed fascist society is inherently illogical.

[@michaelkoukaras7515]

If you read the novel, the recruiter reveals that he doesn't wear his prosthesis at the recruiting station intentionally to discourage those people who may not be ready for the price they may have to pay for serving.

[@MJesDK]

In all fairness, the director didn't exactly read much of the novel either.

[@silverprimus321boi9]

@@MJesDK Which is why the movie is the way it is. It's paul Verhoeven skimming the book, proclaiming it as "facist" (its more of a hyper libertarian society), then making the movie to make fun of his preconcieved notion of the book. Then it unintentionally became a legendary film on the indomnitable human spirit, which made verhoeven seethe even more.

[@Shugg-Goff-HHoffical]

​​@@silverprimus321boi9hyper libertarian ( as we see today in- utero) is just fascism with a different label and at the otherside of the spectrum. It's all part of the same bird. It flies down snatches food out your mouth before it shits all over you and all you hold dear, just for it to do another pass. Politics is a Seagull, people want to protect it irrationally no matter the nuisance they are. The markings different on the wings is what people tend to focus on. They get all warm fuzzy feels when they see the baby gull try to fly. 😂

[@randomspid3r142]

@@silverprimus321boi9 It became a legendary satire of facsism and yes the original book was facsist, it constantly glorified hyper militarism and a major thematic element was the idea of moral degeneracy a key part in fascist ideology

[@silverprimus321boi9]

@randomspid3r142 it isn't fascist. Istg people just say that about everything that looks mildly militaristic these days. Heinleins novel depicts the society as a hyper libertarian meritocracy. Literally all the "facist" elements were just shoved in by verhoeven in the movie, but get contradicted by other details, like an actual chain of command, responsibility of the upper command, and whatnot.

[@bigheadrhino]

“Why bother wearing armor?” Probably to protect against friendly fire.

[@DJWeapon8]

Friendly fire. Shrapnel from the really powerful grenades. More shrapnel and debris from man portable miniature self propelled nuclear warheads. And just plain falling and getting scuffed up.

[@deleteduser3455]

Because they are prepared to fight humans

[@deleteduser3455]

DJ Weapon irl most of the armour like knee pads and such a bullet will rip right through most of the average soldier is exposed the only protection is the upper torso even the gut isn’t protected it’s just a small plate on the front and back and a helmet because the two most aimed for places are upper torso and head. Arm and leg shots aren’t common and aren’t that deadly considering someone can realistically survive losing a arm or leg. Meaning it’s not completely vital (though it really sucks) ideally you would cover the whole body but you have to deal with head build up and weight issues for every bit of armour you add to your arms that’s armour that isn’t protecting your head or neck somewhere that’s more necessary to protect ideally the whole body would be covered but like that’s only if the full body protection is comfortable like imagine I told you to run around with 100 pounds of armour you would probably not want to it’s like why people don’t wear body armour in daily life because most of the time you don’t need it and it’s dead weight but if you need it you need it. Soldiers died because they were using EOD suits and they were too slow to avoid bullets and the suit even though it’s better protection than a regular suit and can stop bullets to the torso and has shrapnel protection all around. It isn’t enough to outweigh the mobility. So with armour most of it is just so you don’t get scuffed up because falling hurts and if you fall the wrong way it can mess you up and some of the armour is for actually stopping bullets

[@DJWeapon8]

@@deleteduser3455 obviously the knee pads will do jack shit against bullets. But as I said, its for not getting injured from falls or getting scuffed up when taking a knee. Like real militaries do.

[@daedalusfan3003]

Also in the book the armor was much more advanced, being able to resist up to autocannon rounds, and having a variety of sensors and communications systems, as well as jumpjets. Apparently the reason for not having this in the movie was due to CGI limitations.

[@kizuneko]

I just gotta say for how old this movie is, the bugs still hold up and look amazing now, both the practical and cgi effects. Thanks for doing Starship Troopers videos! I also loved them as a kid and think 'how does any of this make sense?' as an adult lol

[@CyrusEpion]

Yeah they did a good job. I believe the CGI company was the same company that did the CGI in the first Jurasic park movie. I think that company is still going today, being one of the best CGI and special effect companies today. Can't remember the name of it thou.

[@redonslaught3019]

Yah bugs looked great but a couple of the movie's effects are a bit lacking, like the fake hand being stabbed and head being shot in basic training. I still loved it none the less...

[@fukkitful]

Its funny how bad the effects in 2 and 3 are. Even though they were almost a decade later.

[@Panda-cute]

@@fukkitful same thing with tremors. First movie used lot of practical puppets and stuff and looks great. Rest of the series relies heavily on cgi and look awful

[@fukkitful]

@@Panda-cute True. The 2nd tremors wasn't terrible. But what I've of the rest wasn't worth the time I wasted watching. Didn't know there were 7 films now. Thats ridiculous .

[@planetsen]

Who’s here from helldivers2 😂

[@neoextream007]

Shhhhhhhhhhh

[@cardboard1763]

Pushing back those dirty buggers

[@TheUltimateKahuna]

For Superearth

[@Mrl82008]

Liber-tea

[@afreeman1515]

No, I came from the 90's 😅

[@asocialnobody00]

Playing helldivers while watching this is peak

[@alistaircraig7849]

The knife thing, disabling the enemies hand so they can't use their weapons, does have a bit of a pay off in the end.. Carmen uses the knife to cut the brain probe off of the brain bug, technically disabling the enemies ability to use a powerful weapon of theirs

[@ClokworkGremlin]

In the book, the response to the question doesn't even involve a knife. It launches into a lecture from the Sargent about how sometimes lethal force is massive overkill and completely inappropriate when a milder response would be perfectly adequate.

[@deathkorpswatchmaster2414]

@@ClokworkGremlin i mean the version of the movie sets the tone of how brutal the training is and how unprepared the mobile infantry at least were at fighting against the bugs. Also THE ENEMY CANNOT FIGHT IF YOU DISABLE HIS HAND

[@THAC0MANIC]

kool story bro i use my other hand or my Big Brain Penor coz Chicks be into dat Tenticle hentai am i right or am i right?

[@KillerofGods]

​@@ClokworkGremlin Are you sure? I think they use a knife as an example. Like it being quieter and your expected to do whatever they tell you to do, the freeze command being a good example.

[@theyreoutthere.huntinggear]

Nice. I never got that reference till u mentioned it. Haha.

[@Colin-kh6kp]

I love how we have interstellar travel but fight hordes of mindless bugs in lengthy, sustained ground wars.

[@captinundies6049]

They weren't mindless.

[@MyAngela995]

@@captinundies6049 The war propaganda got to him

[@averyhepburn8092]

The bugs were very organized and had ways to combat in the air and space.

[@michaelmonsoon3919]

Exactly

[@Fau499]

@Ярослав ЛWell yes, and also the humans want to colonise planets, not get rid of them, so blowing it up with all the aliens is out of the equation

[@porkjuices8365]

The defense system they were talking about in the beginning was a direct result of the meteor attack on Buenos Aries. The movie tells you its going back months or weeks or something like that via text on the screen at the end of the opening battle.

[@ianmatthewkline8279]

One of my favorite childhood movies. I’d key up the battle scenes when I was painting my Tyranid warhammer 40K army😅

[@PinkProgram]

The Roughnecks animated series introduces nurse bugs that consume local lifeforms to make a genetic slurry they feed to the larvae to adapt the castes.

[@shawnlake1491]

And they had the skinnies and robots which were kool as shit

[@lordnas1107]

@Absolom Hellgate it’s a very old show but you can still buy the series on Amazon which by buying all their series disks it was worth it to have the full series collection

[@support426]

Don’t forget about the giant bug ship that transport whole armies in them and gather fuel from hydrogen rich environments

[@GeryonM]

The cartoons expanded bug lore immensely. If only it focused on the bugs and not the boring humans.

[@the_furry_inside_your_walls639]

@@GeryonM Wouldn't be Starship Troopers without the boring humans. The series and the novel it's based off of is a satirical commentary on overly zealous, overbearing military societies, after all.

[@ragnarok1245]

Might I suggest that while you're doing the Starship Troopers episodes to also look at Roughnecks: Starship Troopers Chronicles and not just the movies. It was an animated series that fit more closely to Robert A. Heinlein's book, and as such not only includes the Skinnies alien race but also several Arachnid variations not present in the live action or cg films.

[@gonzalogutierrez510]

Ah the good times. I remember having a blast watching it

[@Gloomdrake]

Power Rangers: Lost Galaxy reuses the Starship Troopers outfits, and the enemies are bugs, so he should include that, too

[@praetorianrex5571]

@@Gloomdrake if only the Rangers are available to the Federation, lol.

[@ninjabreadman911]

there was also an unoffical video game for the n64 called "armorines: project s.w.a.r.m" kzbin.info/www/bejne/jYmUZnmZdtWip9E

[@herpderp7274]

God I remember that Good times

[@kcluu9390]

Not sure if anyone knows but this is based off of a book. It's one of the best military Sci fi books of all time. The book has more military theory than anything else but one of the things in the book was that there was a 3rd race involved in this war.

[@JokerFace090]

The only people that don't know that are war 40k fans that think everyone else is ripping off gamesworkshop IP.

[@Loudman._]

A game called Helldivers 2 just came out about a week ago… this movie as a whole has been referenced sooo many times 😂

[@helldrew6693]

I was just about to say who's here because of Helldiver's

[@AwareWolfOnWheels]

Starship Troopers is the perfect example of a movie that uses practical FX and CGI in the proper context of delivering the best of each scene.

[@bardukfr33k1985]

Just an fyi: the opening scenes are further in the timeline, as it leads directly to the attack where Rico is badly injured. The orbital defense system you referenced a few times as ineffective wasn't established yet. It was made as a direct result of the Buenos Aires attack

[@davidlee1142]

I noticed that too he should of gotten his facts straight

[@pernorm7679]

Ohhhhh

[@thesupported5430]

Well there is a theory that earth did it themselves to rage war with the bugs.

[@ChuckBerrington]

Yeah, as mentioned previously there’s a theory that the plot of the bugs launch asteroids is just a propaganda tool for the government to expand into other regions. Kinda like the gulf of Tonkin incident which started the Vietnam war being completely fake. The Gulf War had the same situation, along with the Iraq War.

[@nobodybroda3826]

Really? I figured the message, since the movie takes the piss out of the military industrial complex that the movie portrays it was showing that they brag and brag how they have the best system for taking out asteroids but missed this one, hell I make the theory that the bugs didn't send the asteroid but was just missed by humanity and we blamed it on bugs.

[@tyguy6296]

I think when Carmen cuts off the brain bugs appendage, it's sprays ichor pretty violently. In my mind this kind of supports your circulatory system theory, since spraying blood/ichor would require a fair bit of arterial pressure. I know it was just an effect in a cheesy movie, but as long as we are all good to overanalyze... lol

[@Will_Parker]

Considering the god bugs later on can obviously interact instantaneously across the entire galaxy, the bugs having some level of access to slipspace and being able to bypass the asteroid defense makes some level of sense. Or it could have just been a false flag. Either way, it actually kinda makes sense.

[@SSky06]

I always just assumed it was a false flag to give humanity a casus belli for war and stir patriotism to get a rash of recruits. The idea that the bugs redirected the asteroid from Klendathu would imply they did so before humanity had even spawned into existence on Earth lmao.

[@JackPhoenixCz]

The later (animated) movies which are set in the same continuity (technically) mention a wormhole the bugs are using to get to get across the galaxy.

[@JokerFace090]

ofc it is a false flag. They are airing war propaganda with a death toll a few seconds after it happens.

[@Penultimeat]

The human technology being inconsistent at 12:09 is practically only due to budgetary limitations with the film. The original book places the average soldier in a suit of mechanized armor that makes them hop around the landscape with jet propulsion.

[@toddkes5890]

The comic series is between the two. Only a few of the troops are in Power Armor/Robot suits, but all of the troops have basic jump capability

[@harveyanimations8974]

So, an army of doom slayers. Sick

[@herrdoctor2895]

HELL YEAH MARAUDERS

[@yingtyson4493]

@@harveyanimations8974 Essentially, if doom slayer looked like an overgrown albino gorilla. Haven't read the book for a while, but I'm pretty sure that's the official description of the mech suits.

[@rgstever]

@@yingtyson4493 It is.

[@somedude4805]

"Skipping over the shower scene, I know you're crushed..." Yeah, I was.

[@ahardworker2154]

Same those guys are ripped

[@mkaplan1383]

@@ahardworker2154 The fan service door swings both ways.....

[@ahardworker2154]

@@mkaplan1383 yep

[@cloroxusthestainlessone4324]

Dizzy opened 10 year old me's mind.. good film

[@WilbertLek]

Devastated...

[@kyleott7758]

Love how it's definitely not a kids movie but anyone a fan of this most likely watched it growing up as a kid

[@AGizmoProduction]

Loved this film when it came out and a few years later this movie was made even better for me when I found out my future father-in-law was in the movie @10:14. Him being the tall guy in the all black clothes with black hair in the back left side of the healing tube in the corridor walking back and forth in between it. Where I heard his motivation in that scene was "where is the bathroom?" xD Still great video all around 👍

[@misterbitey2107]

Okay, regarding the asteroid defense system because I see it mentioned several times and it's becoming a pet peeve: That asteroid defense system was built AFTER the attack on Buenos Aires. The opening sequence which mentions it takes place after Rico finishes boot camp and they signal this in two ways - first by showing Rico getting injured in the opening sequence and then showing him just fine in school indicating that this was before he enlisted, and secondly when they cut to the invasion of Klendathu and you see the reporter saying the same lines from the beginning. Like, this isn't even something where you have to squint or really think about it: the movie does take the time to signal the asteroid defense thing was built after the attack, not before. Of course, how they managed to put such a megastructure together in a period of, at most, months is a huge question mark. As far as distance goes... yeah, that's something where there is nothing in text or subtext that would explain that unless they clearly established the bugs having FTL capabilities that allow them to transport rocks close to their targets (which would create new plot holes). I mean, given how they establish repeatedly how the media sequences are wholly unreliable (events on screen frequently contradict the story the media cuts tell and only occasionally line up or have useful information), and that anybody with even a basic understanding of the light speed limit would see the problem here, and how the movie's creators were notoriously anti-fascist and intended us to view the Federation as being positively absurd, I can absolutely see them arranging a false-flag attack that kills millions to sell to their people on a war that is just a blatant land grab for living space they don't really need.

[@boe5930]

or just acpt that it is a movie and nothing make's sens:P

[@Djm95454]

It is Heavily implied that the fascist government in charge manufactured the asteroid incident as a justification for going to war

[@liamzakhaev]

@@boe5930 like how we have to accept your terrible spelling?

[@RenegadeSparks]

@Vulkan Lives Cope.

[@araaraaura1887]

@@Djm95454 That's a complete fan theory that has absolutely no support in the film itself.

[@painandsorrowcards]

Several people die in training in the book. Also the person missing limbs at the recruitment desk is used to discourage people from enlisting. He has robotic limbs that look and act like regular limbs but at the time the main character enlist the military is actively discouraging it.

[@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz]

Yep. Its an aspect from the book that the director didnt even know about because he didn't finish it.

[@MandoWookie]

@@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz Whoever wrote the script did, as a lot of stuff snuck in via dialog. But obviously the director framed it in the way he wanted, but even then the way its described in universe by the characters and how the plot goes, doesn't always jibe with how the director intended to to portray things.

[@JoyOfTacos]

@@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballzThe film version of scene is presented basically the same way, just not as an outwardly deliberate deterrent. The clerks confidence when he says “mobile infantry made me the man I am today” followed by a zoom on his missing limbs is one of the many deliberate satires of fascism and militarism in the film, because contrary to what you believe Verhoeven isn’t an idiot. He didn’t finish the book because he thought it was fascist trash and had come to his own vision for the adaptation.

[@buddhapunch2486]

@@JoyOfTacos Him reading part of the book and thinking it was fascist is actual proof that Verhoeven is an idiot.

[@garyuu2003]

@@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz Didn't finish it? I don't think he even started it.

[@mattb6646]

Damn this video was surprisingly good. You do a great job explaining stuff in an interesting and non-annoying way.

[@TeeTerr]

Studying this 3 years later... for Democracy

[@calvinjacobsen7957]

Same

[@meleefox3218]

First Predator, then Tremors, and now Starship Troopers. You are helping me relive and understand movies that traumatized me as a child, but now fascinate me as an adult. Thank you very much for all of your hard work and research, Roanoke.

[@jamiedutton7257]

It always bugged me when Dizzy is running back to the ship and gets caught by the bug, if Rico hadn't shouted her name she would have made it back to the ship.

[@stopaskingforrealnames3853]

Not likely. Warriors outrun humans with ease.

[@mrpumperknuckles1631]

Yeah in the story the bugs were able to run as fast if not faster than horses...

[@GrySgtBubba]

Somewhat true. Honestly, if he had just started shooting it rather than yelling, causing her to slow and turn, THEN begin shooting it...the bug may have slowed or even started waving off as being lit up. Which woulda gotten her attention to the dangers behind her and allowed her time to flee or light it up as well. But, that wasn't in script sadly. I wish they had followed a tad more on the Roughneck Chronicles than the book.

[@stopaskingforrealnames3853]

@@GrySgtBubba Tbf, roughnecks didnt air until later-and its style only really works as a show. I hope that the films and Terran Command garner enough attention for a Roughnecks reboot. 'Lost patrol: Starship Troopers Chronicles".

[@soxpeewee]

It was intentional. He didn't want to be stuck with her emotional needs

[@anthonylewis9149]

The original helldivers

[@loub.redcap3524]

The opening of the movie takes place a while after the first asteroid hit Buenos Ares in the chronology. They say the bugs sent "another" meteor and then cut to the invasion of Klenathu and eventually Johnny getting wounded. When the first meteor hits he's still in training. Aside from that, good catch on the meteor taking that long to cross the galaxy. They would have to shove it through a wormhole or something and we don't even know if those exist.

[@TheCthultist]

That bit about the sheer distance and time it would have to travel are what makes the argument that Earth’s government probably sent the astroid itself as a false-flag to kick off a more passionate recruiting scheme for the invasion make so much sense.

[@shoulderpyro]

@@TheCthultist And that false flag attack makes sense as to why the asteroid defense system didnt kick in. Why would they shoot down their own asteroid? they probably knocked it out of orbit from Saturn, which while still pretty damn far away is a lot more plausible to hit Earth than Klendathu's bugs firing one off. ...And on top of that, the bugs dont attack unless they are attacked first, which implies they dont even know (or didnt know) where Earth was until Klendathu was invaded in response to the asteroid strike

[@ascendedraven1934]

​@shoulderpyro I haven't read the books, but in the animated series Roughnecks planet "P" is Pluto and is the first place the humans encountered the bugs. In fact, they initially thought they were native to Pluto. If that's the case it's much more plausible that bug plasma from Pluto dislodged one our systems asteroids and sent it towards earth.

[@TheStrubble1]

Another tidbit about the asteroid and defense. When Carmen is shown flying the shuttle off the moon to the defense ring. It is still under construction as she heads through the center of it and out.

[@floydyeager2962]

Just so you know Roanoke, there was an animated series called “Roughnecks: Starship Trooper Chronicles” that expands a ton on the bugs and their species. It doesn’t follow the same storyline as the movies, but I grew up watching it and freaking love it.

[@Joshua_N-A]

That's the closest thing to the novel and MIs wearing powered armor. In the book MI numbers are actually very low compared to the Bugs and only a handful are able graduate.

[@doom7ish]

God I love it

[@giordanomarquez7297]

My mom knew my love for starship troopers when I was younger and when she found the roughnecks chronicles on vhs she bought them for me and I miss watching it, we no longer own them since she got rid of everything on vhs which she regrets but roughnecks was so amazing with expanding the starship troopers universe more than the crappy second and third live action films did

[@LoneWolf-kw3ol]

Fun fact: The guy who did the CGI on this movie went on to also do the CGI for the Jurassic Park trilogy and is heralded as an absolute genius within the movie community, and it all started in this movie that many people hate or dont know about. I for one loved this movie as a kid and still do, thought the sequels were pretty bleh.

[@LouisLeGros]

I remember both Jurasic Park & Starship Troopers coming out in Theaters, Starship Troopers was several years later so something doesn't add up with your fun fact.

[@LoneWolf-kw3ol]

@@LouisLeGros maybe it was the other way around, but i know it was the same guy and if im not mistaken he also helped with Alien

[@LouisLeGros]

@@LoneWolf-kw3ol I see that Phil Tippet worked on Starship Troopers & some of the Jurassic Park movies, not sure if he'd be the guy you are talking about.

[@Vscustomprinting]

Come to think of it- I have yet to hear or see one person say they don't like this movie.. and I saw it in theatres too

[@LoneWolf-kw3ol]

@@Vscustomprinting ive been watching this movie since i was a wee lad, plenty of people dont like it but for the same reasons, "it glorifies communism" "it has no depth" "it didnt even have any noteable actors/awards/press coverage" "the sequels were so bad, why would i watch the original" Basically, the only people ive met who dont like it know nothing about it/dont like anything that doesnt have a shirtless jason momoa or john cena acting like every 90s tuff guy jock ever

[@tmcm8159]

Thank you for addressing the asteroid scene, always had a problem with that bit for the same reasons

[@TheNavigator4552]

I like to think the military let it happen for an excuse to go to war. You'd be surprised with how realistic that sounds

[@BanditAviation]

I remember watching this one as a kid. Now they finally have a game that I've waited for a long time!!

[@Whiteknight-xg2pq]

Yes finally!! Remember kids the only good bug is a dead bug.

[@RoanokeGaming]

Hell ya

[@psychogoreman198]

@@RoanokeGaming that's "OOH RAA private, DO YOU GET ME!?"

[@deathbringer9893]

"NOW LETS MAKE THESE BUGS GOOD"

[@ProblmSolvd]

Service guarantees citizenship!

[@Handles-Are-A-Stupid-Idea]

I'm doing my part

[@juliovictormanuelschaeffer8370]

When the Imperial Guard has more logical tactics than a less-technological competitor, you know something's wrong.

[@robertsmalls2293]

The Imperial Guardsmen are (like most in 40k) most likely religious zealots who would happily die for the Emperor. Their tactics mostly center around outnumbering the enemy.

[@theluftwaffle1]

TBF in the rough necks cartoon they have.. stay with me... Tactics.

[@Blutwind]

@@robertsmalls2293 while its true that the IG levages their numbers that is by far not the only tactic only the meme. The Deathkorps of Krieg yes they charge first ask later but even them prefere to hammer the enemy with shells for days beforehand. Cadian regiments always try to go combined forces with tank and long range support. Tanith 1st and only heavily relies on scouting and sniping warfare Catchan Devils up that by adding massive amounts of Gorrila warfare to the mix Yes the IG is a wall of guns but they don't zergrush if its not absolutly nessecary and a General wasting the Emperors Hammer needlesly could end up either facing down the barrel of a gun from a Commisar or get questions from a pissed inqusitor... in some cases a backhand by a space marine chaptermaster is also posdible depending if they are around and what chapter Also outnummbering only works against minor xenos,eldar,tau and necrons and the later 3 have way better guns. Greenskins and Tyranids can easly outnumber the guard heck the former one will outnumber the guards. And full on Chaos forces can also outnumber a whole Crusade

[@TheArklyte]

@@robertsmalls2293 yes, outnumbering enemy with tanks, artillery and squad weaponry. Human wave memetic stereotype was born solely out of incompetent players themselves being too cheap to buy proper units and from misinterpreting image of Krieg(based on french WWI experience) onto whole of the guard.

[@juliovictormanuelschaeffer8370]

@@theluftwaffle1 yeah. Kinda late in the storyline, but they learnt.

[@Fufu0117]

This helldivers lore goes hard

[@luckyassassin1]

Helldivers 2 brought me back here, because i got dunked on by a bunch of bugs in a medium difficulty mission after having done multiple mediums solo against the automatons no problem

[@SpearM3064]

Actually, Roanoke, if I remember correctly, the movie starts at the "current day" and then does a long *flashback* to basic training. So the "planetary defense system that they were bragging about" wasn't built (or at least, wasn't completed) until *after* the asteroid that hit Buenos Aires. Now, whether or not you can build something that size in just a few months is an entirely different plot hole. Of course, I may *not* be remembering correctly, in which case I could be totally wrong.

[@jamerv86]

In either case, it can’t cover all point of the planet. Though considering the speed one should be able to detect the rock coming through space and they have ships around earth and other that could just jump and intercept even without the moon system which is still mostly a space station just with weapons mounted. So there should still be orbiting stations around earth with weapons, like in Halo.

[@dr.jackbright9297]

i had actually heard a theory that humanity bombed themselves with the asteroids to build patriotism so they can declare war on the bugs with no public outcry.

[@cdr_clutch8711]

Yup

[@sjonnieplayfull5859]

You are not mistaken at all. The movie starts with the planetary defense system, then goes live to the invasion of big K, then goes back one year. The moon base could have been in place, the astroid detection system as well (remember, we see them as a threat today already, and want to look for them) just the means to blow them up were added. So this might be less conspiracy confirming then it looks Also, what destroyed Zegema Beach? The Roughnecks were there before Rico joined them. What fight went on there?

[@forrestpenrod2294]

Building something quickly isn’t a plot hole. If slow construction speeds were a vital part of the plot only for them to build something quickly with no explanation, that might be a plot hole.

[@pohateos9394]

I love how when Carmen discovers the asteroid flying at them her co-pilot keeps saying "wait for it, wait for it" before diving downwards.....they could have started diving immediately, saving the thousands on board the ship, saving the antenna and saving Earth the asteroid strike.... haha wait for it.....wait for it....

[@dairebarefoot6763]

Based on modern shipping design I always assumed she scraped the bridge of the ship off haha. I always thought she was about to die when she did that lol

[@The-Man-On-The-Mountain]

They couldn't see anything in the first place. That planet is light years away. That asteroid should be travelling way faster than light (I don't know how), while the ship is going faster than light too in the opposite direction. But they manage to see it coming slowly 😂 That scene is absolute BS, but I love this movie.

[@pohateos9394]

@@The-Man-On-The-Mountain I love this movie also but yes, that asteroid would have to be traveling WAY faster then light to reach earth that quickly haha

[@LHJlives]

Things like that really got me thinking the asteroid was sent by the human government, not by the bugs. Just a false flag to support the war

[@dairebarefoot6763]

@@pohateos9394 Not to mention they got boots on the ground in no time as well haha

[@TottalliGuy]

The helmets have tech that prevent friendly fire from guns in their unit. :P That’s part of the dialogue in the scene. He takes it off because it’s malfunctioning and he’s running through the line of fire.

[@Bluebeast2005]

Liked the video by 1:18 lol! 👍👍 Great content

[@Ghastly_Grinner]

"Why are they wearing armor it slows you down and does nothing against these things" IDk stray rounds fragmentation from grenades the bugs do shoot stingers at one point in the tv show

[@Ghastly_Grinner]

@Zman 1471 They aren't sub caliber rifles the rifles is supposed to be a .308 also in the show and books they wear power armor

[@Ghastly_Grinner]

@Zman 1471 308 has a ton of stopping power & punches right through armor I have always wondered why they use infantry at all why not just do what we do to bugs in our own world just gas em

[@Ghastly_Grinner]

@Zman 1471 Well if you remember the part of the movie where the bugs are attacking the fort for some reason the troopers dont open fire until the bugs are right up against the wall but with the 308 they could have been dropping bugs at hundreds of yards with a shotgun you would have to let the bugs get allot closer also if you do remember their rifle has a underslung shotgun so they have access to both

[@happyjohn354]

@@Ghastly_Grinner i always thought they were using .308 SLAP rounds as well

[@alvarohernani6645]

It may be for psychological reasons. Maybe it makes them feel safer despite making no difference

[@jadynmurrell80]

pov: your a guardsman being told about Tyranids before deployment

[@Numizard]

ASTRA-WHAT ? YOU'RE IN THE GUARD SON

[@brok56]

@@Numizard wall of Guns.

[@ln7929]

FOR THE EMPER!!.!.....AAAAAAHHHHH

[@mmeers89]

You're *

[@jojosothjar9551]

Nothing but a usurper. Death to the false emperor!

[@justindoesthings9355]

I found the end of the video very interesting and the realistic to explain which I get not many people can understand or appreciate that now days so thank you for the video

[@NameName2.0]

I'm doing my part and studying up on their filthy anatomy to better blow apart the bug menace. This message brought to you by Starship Troopers: Extermination.

[@Raven_Frame]

I believe the asteroid defense system was made after the attack. Remember the movie starts with the Klendathu drop and then goes back by a year.

[@robert04872]

I just assumed the Federation actually did it and pinned it on the bugs. The whole movie has a kind of fascist feel to it throughout.

[@randomtechpriest]

@Dick Balls • 30 years ago True

[@RequiemPoete]

@@robert04872 I mean that's more realistic than bugs launching a rock from the other side of the Galaxy.

[@robert04872]

@Dick Balls • 30 years ago "They're doomed. Yes. But there is grace in their failings. A thing isn't beautiful because it lasts. It's a privilege to be among them." -The Vision, Avengers: Age Of Ultron The most destructive and horrific of nature's creations are the most beautiful: Stars, Black Holes, Quasars, Volcanoes, Supernovas, Tsunamis, Hurricanes. All look beautiful from a distance...but are terrifying events of pure chaos in their heart. Should a Star not exist simply because it does nothing but burn and destroy? If they didn't we would not be here. Should a Black Hole not exist because it does nothing but consume? We have every right to exist and by the law of nature we do...we owe it to ourselves to find out why...or die trying...or at least make a reason why.

[@hallowedsiren0224]

@reaven Thank you I was thinking the same thing

[@The_Viscount]

The most brilliant part of this movie is how meta it is. My interpretation is that this was meant to be a propaganda film in universe being shown on TV and thats why there are all those interrupts with "would you like to know more?"

[@teryakibukaki5232]

You are 100% right the director based this off Vietnam War propaganda and the underlying fascism in the USA after the war

[@Goldenkitten1]

The only issue with that idea is that in most propaganda films no matter what country makes it, it builds their army up to be the ultimate warrior who no others can beat and definitely wouldn't show people getting mowed down in violent and excruciating ways.

[@stuglife5514]

@@Goldenkitten1 While yes you’re right on that, the “would you like to know more?” Segments are SUPER reminiscent of American and German WW2 propaganda films that would be shown before the screening of a movie

[@Slaking_]

@@stuglife5514 about the German army bit, it is pretty on the nose given that the uniforms seen wearing by certain military members looks very Nazi-esque

[@chago4202000]

Everybody always compares that to Fascist propaganda. The uniforms were a deliberate choice added for the movie. But they livestream the battles. They actually do the opposite of propaganda, they show you exactly what's going on. In the book, they actually try to discourage people from joining the military. That's why the guy who takes thier paperwork is missing two legs and an arm. He is out there on purpose to discourage you. Also you are free to leave the service any time you want. It's all volunteer.

[@eythor19]

I am late on this and too lazy to make sure if someone mentioned this before. The planetary asteroid defense system mentioned near the start of the movie is built after the attack of BA as the start of the movie is told out of order.

[@kennethshaheenjr.1164]

Finally,,,how the bugs evolved. I've been looking for this information.

[@coreytaylor447]

humans: * has perfected the complex limb that is the arm to the point where it can match in tone and size to the mirroring real arm* also humans: *cant bother figuring out how to make prosthetic legs*

[@NoESanity]

They had prosthetic legs. He even shows them off in the movie. He didn't wear the legs while recruiting to scare off the weak stomached recruits.

[@autistichades5552]

Also also humans: *cant mutate their Genes to regenerate limbs

[@darthmalar9781]

Not feasable, our species would have to flip a genetic 180 turn in our evolutionary path. It'd be easier to develope night vision and sharp hearing, than limb regeneration.

[@ln7929]

@@darthmalar9781 what about a leg transplant

[@insertsomethingfuni2617]

@@darthmalar9781 you could literally stick a metal pole into the thigh and it would count as a prosthetic leg

[@Inferno144]

I know the movie was a commentary, but I was here for the bugs. Nice video on one of my favorite movies, Roanoke. Edit: I merely mentioned the movie was a commentary, ya'll need to chill. I really don't care about the commentary.

[@RoanokeGaming]

Glad you enjoyed it haha

[@Inferno144]

@@RoanokeGaming I'm dreading the part where you cover the Imposters. Thats my worst nightmare. Something alive, like that, crawling INTO you. Theres no defense either, once its in, you're done.

[@k.t.1641]

A lot of these “commentary” books/movies etc fail or get sucked into their own lore too much. Making it less commentary and more intriguing and “cool”.

[@Inferno144]

@Vulkan Lives Never said it was a good commentary, did I?

[@robertsmalls2293]

@Vulkan Lives Yeah, this movie actually had the inverse message from what I’m guessing was intended (fascism bad) in reality the message of the movie is (military government: effective) at least to me. I saw it as a pretty good system. Didn’t ever get the impression of totalitarianism, or fascism. In a cinematic Universe with such hostile aliens it’s no surprise the human race would adopt a very bigoted stance against the bugs. You see Ender’s Game actually did this pretty well because the whole war against the bugs in that movie was started by an accident, they tried to harvest Earth & didn’t realize anyone was there until quite a few people were dead. They left in peace once they realized the mistake but humanity adopted a bitter hatred of their species, and pursued them into their own systems eventually leading to the “victory by total genocide” outcome we see at the end of the film. Starship Troopers never paints the bugs as “misunderstood” or anything else. They are portrayed as a ravenous, ever-expanding species of extremely hostile insects. Therefore the human supremacy is not only justified, it also serves a valuable purpose by giving humanity a common enemy, therefore uniting Earth for a “greater” purpose.

[@thegamingdad7637]

Who's here after purchasing HELLDIVERS 2 😅

[@Durrtyboy]

I'm doing my part

[@Lunesta_XCIII]

Reporting for democracy!!

[@GideonGlorious4336]

I really liked the usage of the Half Life Alyx Antlion combat song in the background when they first encounter the arachnid soldiers, It made me think about the similarities between the Xen and the Arachnids

[@GideonGlorious4336]

And Now I realize how many Half-life songs there are in this video lol

[@heath506]

I heard it too it's the entire sound track from what I can tell

[@Izzyduude]

I never understood why they didn’t give their soldiers better rounds. It took so much ammo to bring an arachnid down. Like a bigger armor piercing round at least. If you have spaceships and warp capability you would think you would want your human cargo to be the best at fighting. I would like to know more.

[@utbsgaming7288]

Exactly. And after knowing the bugs use overwhelming force to defeat enemies. explosive weapons, artillery, and air/orbital bombardment should have become very common.

[@patrickhanlon932]

They have ineffective weapons because the infantry were seen as expendable.

[@VincentGonzalezVeg]

20 in grenades for a mounted grenade launcher would be good & mines A triggerable minefield, after they get to the front one you have the second one behind them prevent reinforcements & RPGs

[@ChextheVes4451]

It's not WHAT they fire, it's WHERE they hit. The guy in the propoganda ad said to "aim for the nerve stem" which brought the bug down in like, 2 shots when it tanked 6-10 rounds on other parts. The troopers normally die since they don't aim, they do the spray and pray manuever

[@polarbearmetals5162]

In the animated series the roughnecks they had mechs and stuff of that nature so it make you wonder why don't use it more

[@glue3850]

As long as spiders don't bother me I won't bother them, it's kinda like a deal we have

[@hakonkvande6767]

Stay away from my body and you can live here and eat all the bugs you can catch, is my deal with spiders.

[@missfortunez3737]

@@hakonkvande6767 same

[@vbgvbg1133]

Big dpider fluffy, nice for crawl on hand

[@mariobadia4553]

@@vbgvbg1133 lol

[@Gyrfalcon312]

How about demons?

[@serosen3950]

if you payed attention, the astroid defence system wasnt built untill after the Buenos Aires asteroid strike. the scene in the begining is a flash forward alongside the video of Rico on the bug planet from the POV of the camera.

[@alexleonie805]

The canyon and rock formations may indicate that the planet was a world that once possessed an ocean but lost it due to maybe when a second sun decided to pop in, saw the other sun and had an infinite dance battle? I mean, weirder stuff happen in real life. It could be possible that another rogue sun just said sup bro to the other one touching base then realizing he couldn't leave.

[@naturalist4life396]

8:22- I think it's implied that the bugs had nothing to do with the meteor; they just used it as an excuse to invade.

[@patrickflying17]

They're mirroring what happened in the book. but due to the way they portray the arachnid empire in the movie you lose the context the bugs are an inteligent space faring empire that decided to bomb their biggest competitor after getting a tip off of earth's precise coordinates by a third faction that was questioning on who to ally with.

[@SirGriffin87]

You need to rewatch the movie. It's not implied, at all. The movie does scenes chronologically out of order. The bugs threw the meteor BEFORE the defense system existed.

[@miraigond8412]

@@SirGriffin87 it's not outright said, but I'm pretty sure even the director knew the timing of the asteroid didn't make any sense if it was intentional.

[@wiseguy01]

@@SirGriffin87 I'm guessing physics is a complete mystery to you lol. It would literally take millions of years for that asteroid to reach Earth.

[@wickedwrite6271]

@@wiseguy01 Yes it would take that long for the steroid to get there, but that also doesn't change the fact that the implication of the false flag does not exist, and for explanation on the asteroid attack I would refer you to Flyboy's reply, just like in the book it was indeed the bugs that attacked first it's just in the movie the Arachnids don't have all their nifty tech, therefore we get a yadda yadda'd asteroid attack.

[@thomashongshagen4912]

"The enemy cannot push a button, if you disable his hand!"

[@IceNinja2007]

*Push

[@speedy01247]

Uses foot to press button.

[@thomashongshagen4912]

@@speedy01247 listen here, you little...

[@yadakakadu]

I often use my head for that, despite being fully functional. Does that count as cheating?

[@thomashongshagen4912]

@@yadakakadu now this is an avengers level threat

[@nikitachirich7985]

Wow come to realize by the end of the video, but his biochemical analysis is really on point regarding O2 atmospheric necessity and the inconsistency of the arachnids being so much bigger than humans with so little oxygen ( normal human range atmosphere) on the desert planet which seems to lack current ability to produce said oxygen. I wish he did all the other movies and game series this way, brilliant.

[@HolyMith]

Interesting point you made about the BA asteroid being a false flag. However, we know that the bugs have interstellar capability. To colonise other star systems in anything close to reasonable timeframes, they would need some kind of FTL propulsion. It's not a stretch to imagine they can adapt this to a huge rock and aim it at Earth. Once it enters the Sun's sphere of influence, if aimed correctly, it will get captured by and subsequently collide with Earth. This goes some way to explaining why it was travelling at subluminal speeds when the Roger Young encountered it. I think the Arachnids probably were behind the BA asteroid, but humans may well have been the original aggressors. As you pointed out, we know that humans and Arachnids have similar biology, and breathe the same atmosphere etc, so they are obviously interested in the same planets. We also know that on at least one occasion, humans did attempt to colonise a planet already reached by the bugs. So in my mind, it seems like the humans probably encountered immature Arachnid colonies on human-habitable worlds, and concluded they were mindless beasts and attacked them, not knowing that they were in fact members of an intelligent interstellar species. When they discovered the extent of the Arachnid species, they saw them as a mindless threat that was occupying worlds that could belong to humanity, so they decided to go for the jugular and take out their homeworld. And we know what happened from there.

[@jamesbannister-tyrrell3734]

My only comment (and I don’t know how many others have commented this): at the beginning of the film, when they are talking on the infomercial about the planetary defence, the news cuts to the invasion of Klendathu being underway - it then cuts to a year earlier with Johnny in school. The first asteroid that Carman misses, that wipes out Johnny’s home, happens before the planetary defence is built. It gets built because of that one asteroid. That is also why Johnny appears on Klendathu at the start of the film, telling the cameraman to “get out of here now”... that scene plays out later with the cameraman getting impaled

[@tachyon8317]

If you look closely, you can see the squibs on the armor. Along with on Dizzy's armor before she gets taken out

[@torvahnys]

In the book the bugs have advanced technology, things like FTL capable starships, infantry based energy weapons, and subterranean industrial infrastructure. Its said that the human ships are better and more capable, but that infantry fighting is a challenge as the bugs are able to spawn fully combat capable, where humans require months of training to become combat effective.

[@mushrooms5601]

I just pictured giant bugs piloting a spacecraft lol

[@ANDREALEONE95]

@@mushrooms5601 giant bugs would be spaceships, much like Tyranids in Warhammer 40K.

[@mushrooms5601]

@@ANDREALEONE95 oh I see

[@MVEZombie]

Pretty sure they were talking about a humanoid alien race they called the skinnies (if I'm not mistaken) not the arachnids.

[@torvahnys]

@@MVEZombie I listen to the book a couple times a year at work, it's the bugs. The skinnies are talked about at the very beginning of the book, and around the middle of the book, he does a synopsis of the bug tech, advantages and disadvantages.

[@tempest3665]

I'm going to start out by saying I love your videos they are awesome. Now the one part I'm actually stuck on is when you did the whole meteor from clandatho to Earth time space blah blah blah. Now at that point in time a lot of different species of bugs were recognized. And during the film footage of what was left of Buenos Aires that did show arachnid carcasses in the rubble. Now who's to say that the bugs riding the meteor didn't do some weird bug magic i.e use wings to catch solar winds or a plasma bug up on that puppy rocking it freaking forth faster than we thought it could travel or whatnot. That was only my thought maybe they were on it to speed it up. Anyways thank you for the great videos and please keep up the great work

[@matsbacklund6471]

I enjoyed this. Thank you

[@extremelyboredtatsumaki.495]

The exaggerated armoured exoskeleton of an extraterrestrial spacebug.

[@Joshua_N-A]

That's the movie bug. The novel bugs have ranged weapons, beam weapons and they probably have armor plating since they are on par with humans in technology. Cyber Bugs.

[@coitusergosum2447]

Don't worry. I understood the reference

[@staytrue1325]

Thank you hiccup

[@Abbandoneer]

I even heard it in his voice.

[@FNPetersen]

Granted it's a different species from "the Bugs," but in the beginning they did dissect an alien beetle. They specifically removed lungs from that beetle, implying a cardiopulmonary system something like tetrapods on Earth. Therefore, large arthropod-analogues having a circulatory system is an established part of the movie. I feel that you're biological analysis is on point. "They're aliens" can establish that they have a circulatory system, but it can't make them magic.

[@maxcarrasco260]

Those beetles are seen when the platoon was sent to that settlement, Rico notices them in the chow hall. Also those same beetles are seen when Carmen and the other guy, encounter the brain bug

[@chrisdefresne3235]

The dissected bug was one of the workers.

[@kismethappel7811]

Those are arachnid bug-types, they're called Chariot Bugs. Small-scale workers/tunnelers, mine-clearers and mobility-systems for Brain Bugs. Mostly harmless but their bites they can slice through flesh, bone and ballistic armor with ease (they bite through stone and ore, it's understandable).

[@Gremlin-Glizzy]

Seems the best Helldivers doing the best research they can, you better get to the frontlines soldiers ✊

[@ObsidianOctopus19]

Just coming here to say you should take a look at Helldivers.

[@stefano7868]

This movie feels like a weird hybrid of Star Wars, Ender’s Game, Factorio, Alien, and Half-Life

[@badrequest5596]

always saw this as something of a movie version of starcraft, minus the protoss. the bugs do somewhat resemble the zerg in social structure

[@voilvelev6775]

Its more of a parody of all of these and a satire of militaristic nations. The perfect description would be ''Anti-Star Trek" - instead of peaceful utopia that solves everything with diplomacy, its a fear-mongering authoritarian regime that is built solely on violence and the need of an ''enemy''.

[@bloodangel19]

It's a 40k movie about the cadian regiment

[@jetjavelin7593]

Well, most of the "space power armor" theme like Starcraft's Marine, 40k's Space Marine or even Gundam are inspired by this book tho.

[@martykowal]

@@bloodangel19 HERETIC!!! The Cadians were the Emperors chosen fodder!

[@buggyboy2849]

Many crustaceans (especially decapods) have partially closed circulatory system (arteries, strong heart etc.) which actually performs similarly to small mammals (mainly rodents). So yes an arthropod can breathe oxygen efficiently even with a semi-closed circulatory system! As for how Klendathu has life and an atmosphere, in some bonus info by the movie team it's implied the Bugs have a fungus or at least fungoid farm underground (like ants and termites) for food, I assume these fungi also produce oxygen. It's also implied the planet is barren because the Bugs pretty much devoured all organic matter aside from the fungus.

[@kennethferland5579]

Fungi don't produce Oxygen though, they are decomposers that consume oxygen to digest other materials, essentially no different then animal life.

[@buggyboy2849]

@@kennethferland5579 That's why I said fungoid, it behaves like fungus but might be bacteria colony or even more close to plants, what I'm saying is that it's a farmable organic substance that the Bugs use as food much like how termites and ants utilize fungus farms.

[@TS-jm7jm]

@@buggyboy2849 most oxygen on earth is produced by bacteria actually, its also how we get the trace elements our bodies and plants and animals need out of the ground, bacteria mines that stuff atom by atom in a recycling system, otherwise we would slowly deplete our trace element supply as it oxidises and becomes rock.

[@buggyboy2849]

@@TS-jm7jm Yup! I'm guessing the movie team was thinking of this but went with fungi since it's more insect appropriate.

[@shaneregan7745]

Very funny that now that Helldivers 2 is so popular I’ve been seeing starship troopers videos pop up on my feed.

[@thebiggrab8558]

I’ve always heard that the Federation used the asteroid strike to make propaganda for an excuse to invade Klendathu. But maybe that was a theory, not cannon.

[@penguixyt3246]

The brain eater bug horrified me as a kid and even now it's one part of the movie that always creeps me out.

[@RoanokeGaming]

Horrifies me as an adult BUT is quite interesting

[@kaldicuct]

I dont think the asteroid is a plot hole, just something youd need to think about. If you want to colonize all the planets, well... best way to start that up is a war. I'm saying it was claimed to be the bugs, it was not the bugs, and it's an excuse for war.

[@minhducnguyen9276]

It could also be a coincidence and the asteroid is neither from the bugs or a false flag operation but a natural occurred one. The federation just exploited the situation. Well it's not much of a different.

[@kaldicuct]

@@minhducnguyen9276 that's what I said. You just boiled it down. Thank you.

[@ggowdy1972]

One could also imagine that the bugs, being capable of colonizing other star systems do have a means of FTL just as the Terrans do. Perhaps they had the ability to use this capability to drop an Asteroid on a path with Earth. or more likely, could have inserted some kind of forward operations and dislodged an asteroid from our own Asteroid Belt.

[@BroomPusher2024]

"Meteors can't melt steel beams."

[@nathanielarellano9581]

He did mention it later in the video

[@StimpacksRequired]

I like how you made this video like it was almost a history and science based lesson.

[@RoanokeGaming]

Glad you enjoyed it brother

[@cammofreestylz6575]

If you’ve read the book, they compare the basic training for their base infantry do the special forces of the 20th century. Going on to say that that level of training was inadequate, and it has been improved upon over the centuries. They also stress how calm, and it was to rarely make it out of basic alive. In the movie, “career, Sergeant Zim“ says this in his opening speech to the platoon of cadets.

[@sharkman7651]

You have opened a whole can of “bugs” and you need to be ready to do your part. Also you need to watch Roughnecks starship troopers chronicles it’s really good and also introduces an even wider variety of bugs

[@gmradio2436]

3 live action films 2 cgi films 2 tv series 1 book series Did I miss anything?

[@electroscoutgaming3966]

The anti-asteroid defense system was placed in response to the attack on Earth, implemented at the same time of the first attack on the bugs: hence why the news feed goes live to the invasion.

[@KrusherMike]

Mediiiiiiic!

[@GX328382]

THANK YOU the bug-metor has always bugged me (lol) about this movie

[@ChrisParrishOutdoors]

Answering your asteroid questions. 1. It's subtly implied that the asteroid was just a random asteroid and the sky marshall used it as an excuse to go to war. Edit: oh you guessed this later haha 2. The beginning of the movie takes place in the future at the initial klendathu invasion and then goes back in time so the astroid defense station hadn't been built yet.

[@tlpineapple1]

I honestly assumed it was a false flag operation. I figured the government purposefully diverted the asteroid to justify war and garner massive war support.

[@serioussilliness2064]

Same as the Lisutania

[@DarkVeghetta]

1. The book makes it quite clear that this is not the case and the movie's director wouldn't know subtle if it hit him over the head with a fish. The bugs begin hostilities after Mormon settlers go to ground on a planet that the Federation expressly told them not to go to, and shortly thereafter said bugs throw the meteor our way, towards a large population center. The movie's edited in such a way that this isn't apparent to many viewers. 2. Correct.

[@transformersrevenge9]

@@DarkVeghetta The book and the movie are two different things. The movie is free to do it's own thing.

[@iprofox3758]

@@transformersrevenge9 Films that destroy a books lore are trash. Of course this movie was awesome.

[@fidelismiles7439]

3:50 actually in the novel he later comes across Rico outside the recruitment center and tells him: "Relax, boy. I don't have to do the after hours horror show, and I don't. ("The man was wearing civilian clothes, walking on two legs and had two arms.")

[@datwongai3903]

23:18 Welp, that was me signing out! I like how easily you could see the rainshadow created by the Cascades.

[@qualwinters8784]

KZbin recommending this to me after watching countless Helldivers 2 clips. Sassy. 😎

[@deathkorpswatchmaster2414]

For everybody talking about “why the army didnt do X” or “why dont they have X thats dumb” Yea. Thats the point. We commonly see humans using their superior tactics to fight an expendable horde of poorly managed troops. But instead we see humans being outplayed time and time again by the smart bugs while the mobile infantry are seen as expendable hordes of troops so they aren’t really considered tactically

[@fukkitful]

That's what happens when you underestimate you enemy.

[@bradymenting5120]

this is especially profound given your username

[@REgamesplayer]

If you watch the movie, it is actually done to promote Terran Confederacy. Government owns up to its mistake, leader resigns. New leader dramatically changes strategy in how war is being fought which is superior to bugs strategies.

[@HolyMith]

@@REgamesplayer SM Tehat Meru knocked it out of the park. She knew that capturing a brain bug was pretty much the only hope of humans understanding the goals, strategies and capabilities of the bugs, since they were so utterly alien to us. She started putting out vulnerable advance teams into potentially hostile bug territory so they could entice out and spot a brain bug, then she had a whole ass invasion force on standby to swoop in the moment one was confirmed. Pretty clever.

[@tothebob]

Im doing my part!

[@RoanokeGaming]

Thanks citizen!

[@creepycraiyons3519]

Ace and Rico are the bromance we all needed in the nineties