Biomechanics of Arm Wrestling (Optimizing Your lifting)

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In this video, we delve into the intricate world of arm wrestling biomechanics. With the guidance of Coach Ray using Devon Larratt and Alexey Voevoda as example, we explore the physics behind arm wrestling techniques and training. Discover the secrets to gaining the upper hand in arm wrestling through a deeper understanding of biomechanics. Get ready to elevate your arm wrestling game!
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@levinelson5285
@levinelson5285 10 ай бұрын
It's funny how everyone cheats Devon Larratt's lift to say they can do more. Yet their form is always worse. Says a lot for how strong Devon Larratt's pronation is.
@nonamenxb6694
@nonamenxb6694 10 ай бұрын
Raise your hand ✋️ for people who didn't cheat in the lift
@JBtheWARVillain
@JBtheWARVillain 10 ай бұрын
I say let them cheat, that way when they grip with Devon and feel how strong his wrist/hand is then they'll be able to understand why.
@bulletproof1581
@bulletproof1581 10 ай бұрын
@@JBtheWARVillain Yeah just let them have the consequence of ego lifting, they will soon learn lol
@nonamenxb6694
@nonamenxb6694 10 ай бұрын
It's ok if ur much different on this lift the only thing needs is to replicate the training u do on center of table for example u do it like voevoda does it means ur training for high hook If u do it like devon does u do it like kings move or open toproll it doesn't matter only matters is when you replicate ur technique in table while ur training get it?
@romanreckless8263
@romanreckless8263 10 ай бұрын
​@nonamenxb6694 I disagree. Devons way of the pronation/back pressure allows for more muscles in the chain to be used. The other lift is more isolated and focuses on less muscles in the chain to be used or engaged. Devonshire lift is more versatile also, imo.
@BarryAllen-ht9jm
@BarryAllen-ht9jm 10 ай бұрын
Finally someone makes a video explaining the differences, thank you.
@voiceofarmwrestling
@voiceofarmwrestling 10 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@ggs5628
@ggs5628 10 ай бұрын
voevoda also uses toes and hip
@callbook8989
@callbook8989 10 ай бұрын
@@ggs5628 Don't forget his knees as well
@CantThinkOfAHandleSoItsThis
@CantThinkOfAHandleSoItsThis 10 ай бұрын
Devon's lift is unreal, I can't imagine having that much weight on my thumb & wrist. Form is everything when working out and his form was perfect, everyone else so far have not replicated his lift.
@zGJungle
@zGJungle 10 ай бұрын
Especially when you consider how long his forearm is, all the leverage working against him.
@MT-fr7tb
@MT-fr7tb 6 ай бұрын
@@zGJungle Exaaaacttly! For Ermes this Lift would be much easier even if he would replicate Devons Form 1 to 1. For Vitaly it actually would be much harder than for Devon. So you can only compared the weight for pullers with similar formarm (lever) length.
@Matthew-Fish
@Matthew-Fish 10 ай бұрын
Great explanation Coach Ray!
@voiceofarmwrestling
@voiceofarmwrestling 10 ай бұрын
Appreciate it!
@tosmove
@tosmove 10 ай бұрын
This is great to talk about. All of your points are exactly right. The more people understand these fine details, the better we all get. If you guys go full bio on us, it will be fun. 💪
@voiceofarmwrestling
@voiceofarmwrestling 10 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@briannewsome
@briannewsome 10 ай бұрын
​@@voiceofarmwrestlingyou guys should make more arm-wrestling training videos because they are really cool thanks for the training videos
@WaspMedia3D
@WaspMedia3D 10 ай бұрын
Great explanation. Hoever, this is still far beyond the understanding of Devon haters.
@timlewis5527
@timlewis5527 10 ай бұрын
8 minutes of Ray trying to not say vectors
@voiceofarmwrestling
@voiceofarmwrestling 10 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@raydstacked
@raydstacked 10 ай бұрын
Solid video. Might have damaged a lot of egos though 😂
@voiceofarmwrestling
@voiceofarmwrestling 10 ай бұрын
Probably
@EvanRo
@EvanRo 10 ай бұрын
Yes more of these physics and bio-mechanics vids. I learned a lot today
@jamesnm21
@jamesnm21 10 ай бұрын
Someone should make posters out of that shot of Devon cracking that lift off the floor. It's iconic and classic classic Devon.
@Cr0ssUP
@Cr0ssUP 10 ай бұрын
This channel is one of the best out there. Thank You for your time and effort
@sunaan2980
@sunaan2980 10 ай бұрын
best breakdown of the lift. outstanding explanation
@Senedras
@Senedras 10 ай бұрын
The Coach! Thank you for taking the time to explain & share valuable information to us. Have a good day & hope to see you on the table again very soon ❤
@voiceofarmwrestling
@voiceofarmwrestling 10 ай бұрын
Thank you! You too!
@aeladiaYT
@aeladiaYT 10 ай бұрын
thanks Coach!! always love your videos, keep teaching us and keep kicking ass buddy!
@Marc_AD
@Marc_AD 10 ай бұрын
Excellent video! Perfect articulation and the details needed are very useful... something almost nobody does. Well done my friend !
@Oldsaltydog2
@Oldsaltydog2 10 ай бұрын
I can see where a lot of people would make use of these type of videos, more of these would be appreciated 💪
@mikejensen1473
@mikejensen1473 10 ай бұрын
To anyone who has never done the lift the difference might seems trivial. But the small changes make a big difference. Great explanation!
@MchaelTeeter
@MchaelTeeter 10 ай бұрын
Very informative video. Explaining a lot.
@koaliimossman4457
@koaliimossman4457 10 ай бұрын
Amazing points Coach Ray appreciate all the content. Great deep dive into the complexity of arm wrestling out of the table.
@yosht6110
@yosht6110 10 ай бұрын
VERY insightful and informational, thank you for the info!
@voiceofarmwrestling
@voiceofarmwrestling 10 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@HafizShivji786
@HafizShivji786 10 ай бұрын
Spot on !! Hence every Armwresrler has different strengths in different angles 😊👍
@bull1890
@bull1890 10 ай бұрын
That was awesoome insight into the technical part of training. Thank you for this it explained alot.
@pascalrouen
@pascalrouen 10 ай бұрын
Excellent video!
@williamiorruz
@williamiorruz 2 ай бұрын
Thats true. The basic principle is when the weight close to ur weight point (your joint) so the the weight load will be heavier. Thank you coach ray 👌🏽
@voiceofarmwrestling
@voiceofarmwrestling 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@chrissikora4292
@chrissikora4292 10 ай бұрын
Great video brother! Your training content for arm wrestling is top notch.
@voiceofarmwrestling
@voiceofarmwrestling 10 ай бұрын
I appreciate that!
@lvl99dust
@lvl99dust 10 ай бұрын
💪💪💪Thanks bro! *Quality* Video 💯
@deadseamonster
@deadseamonster 10 ай бұрын
Very informative Ray. Thanks!
@oliviervo6889
@oliviervo6889 10 ай бұрын
My god this channel is gold.
@wojack8272
@wojack8272 10 ай бұрын
Lately Your videos have been just 🔥
@kizzmitten1
@kizzmitten1 10 ай бұрын
Thanks so much coach Ray. Super useful. I'm not an armwrestler, but I love the sport and how it is growing. As an older dude (57) I am inspired by Devon and other older strength athletes. It is the power of KZbin that nudged me into some of this unique training. Maybe you can touch on the differences between tendons and muscles sometime.? Stay massive!
@jermojushtteen4936
@jermojushtteen4936 10 ай бұрын
Great video Ray.
@Pablosan7
@Pablosan7 10 ай бұрын
Awesome analytical breakdown, love it! …Voyevoda has probably also seen it and immediately changed his technique 😊
@isaacgamez7101
@isaacgamez7101 10 ай бұрын
Man this is a great video
@EvolutionaryE
@EvolutionaryE 10 ай бұрын
Would love a video series on this!
@Marcnshae2011
@Marcnshae2011 10 ай бұрын
Great video! Thx
@anoniem7062
@anoniem7062 10 ай бұрын
Awesome explanation! Thanks for sharing and also explaining the differences. It all makes sense, but the differences are very easy to overlook, in my opinion. There's also that video comparison between Devon and Ermes in which you can more clearly see, that the exercises they're doing are different.
@hamadalsuwaidi8723
@hamadalsuwaidi8723 10 ай бұрын
Please bro I loved this video. We need more biomechanics
@loganschmick792
@loganschmick792 10 ай бұрын
Great video Raymond.
@ArmwrestlingTrainingCh
@ArmwrestlingTrainingCh 10 ай бұрын
keep doing these type of videos 🙂
@sergeimalynovskyi1370
@sergeimalynovskyi1370 10 ай бұрын
Enjoyed a lot. Please do more with Janis on biomechanics and physics.
@dashcamcompilationswithcomment
@dashcamcompilationswithcomment 10 ай бұрын
Simply the leverage topic of physics (Im talking about placing the weight on your arm), thanks!
@voiceofarmwrestling
@voiceofarmwrestling 10 ай бұрын
Welcome!
@CabalisticSpecies
@CabalisticSpecies 10 ай бұрын
Perfect video 💪🏽 was getting real tired of seeing all the ignorant comments on not understanding how physics works 😅
@lekmusic
@lekmusic 10 ай бұрын
Cool maybe inserting those video clips of them again in the middle and pausing to show the difference in angles and grip would be good (and explaining how each is doing it differently)
@woofoosfoosball
@woofoosfoosball 2 ай бұрын
Great video coach 👍. Micro adjustments with this lift are what sets them apart
@voiceofarmwrestling
@voiceofarmwrestling 2 ай бұрын
Yes they are
@Russellmonroe314
@Russellmonroe314 10 ай бұрын
Good content
@vikingmode9093
@vikingmode9093 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for for the tutorial vids.
@toddhutchings906
@toddhutchings906 10 ай бұрын
I’ve always found versions of this lift silly. I agree “all strength is good” But, your arm is rarely at 90 degrees when pulling. Maybe while posting? If you want better carry over, do your lifts off a table. Also, learn to use the term ‘torque’ when explaining the difference in effort for the same weight at various locations from the joint 😉
@milospopovic3931
@milospopovic3931 10 ай бұрын
💯
@mgcpubgclips2410
@mgcpubgclips2410 10 ай бұрын
Devon is doing that so that when he kings move, his wrist will not bend he knows ermes is so powerful and he knows that he can floppress the kings move ,thats why he is training that way.. understand?
@aohjii
@aohjii 10 ай бұрын
no hes doing that for center in the set up so he can post high which is what Toddzilla said lol, thats the only time that 90 degree lift devon does really matters, but devon already said in another video he trains to win and dominate center, as whoever has control of center controls the match@@mgcpubgclips2410
@Kalevi0
@Kalevi0 10 ай бұрын
​@@mgcpubgclips2410U are talking about palm turning up, not wrist bend. Two totally different things. Understand?
@shashishekharsingh4652
@shashishekharsingh4652 10 ай бұрын
Lifting parallel to the body vs perpendicular to it is also a key difference. It's tougher when you do it parallel to your body body.
@alexviero3578
@alexviero3578 10 ай бұрын
Great content
@MrDanvillianMonk
@MrDanvillianMonk 10 ай бұрын
The video we all knew we needed 😅
@svman2475
@svman2475 10 ай бұрын
I see good progress on the channel. Cool video bro
@milan.s2681
@milan.s2681 10 ай бұрын
Wtf 😃 they were always first class channel.
@tomaszjaskot664
@tomaszjaskot664 10 ай бұрын
Now this was a good, constructive video. 💪
@Thanhatos
@Thanhatos 10 ай бұрын
Thank you !
@callofdutygamer11
@callofdutygamer11 6 ай бұрын
amazing bro 🔥
@voiceofarmwrestling
@voiceofarmwrestling 6 ай бұрын
Thanks 🔥
@natelsx
@natelsx 10 ай бұрын
Good video. Someone had to do it !!
@clifdunbar7405
@clifdunbar7405 10 ай бұрын
Thanks Ray
@arryharry
@arryharry 10 ай бұрын
Trust the coach to clear this debate up! 💪🏼
@andreaselia2002
@andreaselia2002 10 ай бұрын
BRAVO 👏🏻
@hellboy-sf1fb
@hellboy-sf1fb 10 ай бұрын
I like your explaining my friend 👌👌👌
@voiceofarmwrestling
@voiceofarmwrestling 10 ай бұрын
Thank you so much 🙂
@BroncoBillyAW
@BroncoBillyAW 10 ай бұрын
More of these videos would be welcomed!
@cliffh7775
@cliffh7775 10 ай бұрын
As the arm angle decreases as the hand rises above the elbow, it seems like some of the tension is transferred off the muscle onto the bone structure. The forearm bones (radius/ulna) become a tent pole that helps support the weight. The more upright the the forearm angle, the greater the effect.
@audriuskarpavicius2876
@audriuskarpavicius2876 10 ай бұрын
This video made me sub
@georgeseccombe4382
@georgeseccombe4382 10 ай бұрын
If your arm is longer then the extra leverage will make this lift harder. Would love to see a video that goes a bit deeper into biomechanics Ray
@charlesgress4752
@charlesgress4752 10 ай бұрын
Thanks coach
@jerrysoini
@jerrysoini 10 ай бұрын
More videos about biomechanics please!
@Mr_Jingles_147
@Mr_Jingles_147 10 ай бұрын
My old "mechanic" brain went into overdrive on the strap position, because you're basically describing torque. The further the weight is from the point of energy, the more torque required to move it. Thats why we have 19 different length ratchets in the garage, depending on how big or tight the nut is. Thats why the "over the knuckles" position is the hardest, because it's furthest from the point that the weight is trying to move. Throw in the rotational/pronator aspect and thats an insane amount of leverage required. Great video
@dark-o
@dark-o 10 ай бұрын
Little Devon making sense again 🟢💪
@mikedumas2901
@mikedumas2901 10 ай бұрын
Yes we want more!! How about the 90’ can you train it only specifically close to your body or outwards say on the angle you would be at the table but on a 90’ ??
@WarmeGrapefruit
@WarmeGrapefruit 10 ай бұрын
damn ray you looking ripped! Also good explanation
@malikshahzaib97
@malikshahzaib97 10 ай бұрын
Big difference 🔥🔥🔥🔥
@godlyaardvark7265
@godlyaardvark7265 10 ай бұрын
Great video Ray. You forgot to mention how Alexey had a cupped wrist and kipped up the weight with his legs as well though
@ikonofcoil
@ikonofcoil 10 ай бұрын
Ray, it would be interesting to demonstrate some excersises with bands.
@AndyandMario
@AndyandMario 10 ай бұрын
Simple and concise description of levers and moment arms. This is why shorter lever arm wrestlers are able to generate more torque than their long lever counter parts. Where longer lever pullers compensate for this is the increased coverage associated with bigger and longer hands, fingers etc (on average). This is where training smart and making lifts more optimal for what you are targeting will allow for better transfer to the table.
@matteo4266
@matteo4266 10 ай бұрын
Well said bro
@sasabione
@sasabione 10 ай бұрын
Devon is such a deep student/master of the art of strength. Impressive local strength and good form. And what about that Squat?
@pprotectas8423
@pprotectas8423 10 ай бұрын
Great content!!! 👍Devon always is called a "Cheater" but he isn't fool himself like others for sure 😅💪
@michaellopez2070
@michaellopez2070 10 ай бұрын
This is something about all the back pressure cable comparisons that nobody seems to correctly take into account.
@arsalali69
@arsalali69 10 ай бұрын
Great video as always, I seriously learned something here
@voiceofarmwrestling
@voiceofarmwrestling 10 ай бұрын
Glad to hear it!
@mikecartier6163
@mikecartier6163 10 ай бұрын
I cant believe Alexey did a Ryan Blowen maneuver.
@eslteacherpeter
@eslteacherpeter 10 ай бұрын
You can put a short insert vid of both lifts would make this even better.
@voiceofarmwrestling
@voiceofarmwrestling 10 ай бұрын
I did that on 1s of the video
@Hyper__V
@Hyper__V 10 ай бұрын
Very interesting content
@vedikaraj1101
@vedikaraj1101 10 ай бұрын
Devon proved himself
@joerossi2669
@joerossi2669 10 ай бұрын
Nice video
@jxlp1569
@jxlp1569 10 ай бұрын
make more of this type of video! but with white boards and trigonometry!!
@ivanvalentin3898
@ivanvalentin3898 10 ай бұрын
Coach Ray is one smart dude. He knows his sport well and he speaks such fluent english and can articulate well
@serotoninless2565
@serotoninless2565 10 ай бұрын
make a video top10 specific exercises for armwrestling
@henry.bowerslol
@henry.bowerslol 10 ай бұрын
And then we have Ermes who doesnt even know the difference between a pronator based lift and a back pressure based lift... he didnt even wrap belt around the thumb but bragged about doing more weight than devon. Pasta brain :D
@hitbm4755
@hitbm4755 10 ай бұрын
Exactly what I wrote on Alexey's video yesterday, he is not working on the same strength scenario than Devon was, due to the narrower angle he took. Devon's exercise is obviously open arm focused, when the match starts, and Alexey's is when he is arguably already in a good position or hook in his match.
@robertthompson176
@robertthompson176 10 ай бұрын
Simply looking at the physics aspect it is simple high school stuff. The moment of force is greater when you increase the distance from the fulcrum. Same reason we use a longer spanner or wrench for something that is difficult to loosen.
@LokiLL999
@LokiLL999 10 ай бұрын
Coach 💪
@Ranger.Vt.
@Ranger.Vt. 10 ай бұрын
Think of it like a crane picking up something heavy. They wouldn’t lay the boom out straight in front of the crane to lift because the crane would literally tip over . They point the broom up for stability and leverage before cabling up and lifting.
@sqwop
@sqwop 10 ай бұрын
That was a great video but where I can buy anabolic air ser?
@ForceRX
@ForceRX 10 ай бұрын
I am amazed that pro's do not know this basic things about mechanics of these lifts. Very good video Ray.
@kmb957
@kmb957 10 ай бұрын
The pros do know. They think you don't.
@ForceRX
@ForceRX 10 ай бұрын
​​@@kmb957 Ok. They think people are stupid and don't realize its different lift. Videos taken for social media buzz. The way they really train might be different.
@henrihermola558
@henrihermola558 10 ай бұрын
Yes yes yes!finally!!!!
@ogdad3822
@ogdad3822 10 ай бұрын
Yes Truee, Devon move with Letter L, and of course its more hard, and Alexey move with Letter V, yes i know its not easy too, but its not same
@Va4esS
@Va4esS 10 ай бұрын
preach, Coach, preach
@user-dk5rf5ly4t
@user-dk5rf5ly4t 10 ай бұрын
This exercise is very effective
@SukmaPopeye88-cc1qu
@SukmaPopeye88-cc1qu 10 ай бұрын
devon🔥🔥🔥
@jakobpowerflexer
@jakobpowerflexer 10 ай бұрын
The word you looking for are moment force. for evrey extra centimeter you move away from the joint 1 exstra Newton meter force. I use it in my work to calculate streangth of steel beams etc. 1kgm = 9.82Nm
@CupidStunttz
@CupidStunttz 7 ай бұрын
Another great video Ray! You gotta stop giving away all of Devons secrets though... 😂💪
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