Biomechanics of Arm Wrestling (Optimizing Your lifting)

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In this video, we delve into the intricate world of arm wrestling biomechanics. With the guidance of Coach Ray using Devon Larratt and Alexey Voevoda as example, we explore the physics behind arm wrestling techniques and training. Discover the secrets to gaining the upper hand in arm wrestling through a deeper understanding of biomechanics. Get ready to elevate your arm wrestling game!
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@levinelson5285
@levinelson5285 10 ай бұрын
It's funny how everyone cheats Devon Larratt's lift to say they can do more. Yet their form is always worse. Says a lot for how strong Devon Larratt's pronation is.
@nonamenxb6694
@nonamenxb6694 10 ай бұрын
Raise your hand ✋️ for people who didn't cheat in the lift
@JBtheWARVillain
@JBtheWARVillain 10 ай бұрын
I say let them cheat, that way when they grip with Devon and feel how strong his wrist/hand is then they'll be able to understand why.
@bulletproof1581
@bulletproof1581 9 ай бұрын
@@JBtheWARVillain Yeah just let them have the consequence of ego lifting, they will soon learn lol
@nonamenxb6694
@nonamenxb6694 9 ай бұрын
It's ok if ur much different on this lift the only thing needs is to replicate the training u do on center of table for example u do it like voevoda does it means ur training for high hook If u do it like devon does u do it like kings move or open toproll it doesn't matter only matters is when you replicate ur technique in table while ur training get it?
@romanreckless8263
@romanreckless8263 9 ай бұрын
​@nonamenxb6694 I disagree. Devons way of the pronation/back pressure allows for more muscles in the chain to be used. The other lift is more isolated and focuses on less muscles in the chain to be used or engaged. Devonshire lift is more versatile also, imo.
@BarryAllen-ht9jm
@BarryAllen-ht9jm 10 ай бұрын
Finally someone makes a video explaining the differences, thank you.
@voiceofarmwrestling
@voiceofarmwrestling 10 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@ggs5628
@ggs5628 9 ай бұрын
voevoda also uses toes and hip
@callbook8989
@callbook8989 9 ай бұрын
@@ggs5628 Don't forget his knees as well
@CantThinkOfAHandleSoItsThis
@CantThinkOfAHandleSoItsThis 9 ай бұрын
Devon's lift is unreal, I can't imagine having that much weight on my thumb & wrist. Form is everything when working out and his form was perfect, everyone else so far have not replicated his lift.
@zGJungle
@zGJungle 9 ай бұрын
Especially when you consider how long his forearm is, all the leverage working against him.
@MT-fr7tb
@MT-fr7tb 6 ай бұрын
@@zGJungle Exaaaacttly! For Ermes this Lift would be much easier even if he would replicate Devons Form 1 to 1. For Vitaly it actually would be much harder than for Devon. So you can only compared the weight for pullers with similar formarm (lever) length.
@tosmove
@tosmove 10 ай бұрын
This is great to talk about. All of your points are exactly right. The more people understand these fine details, the better we all get. If you guys go full bio on us, it will be fun. 💪
@voiceofarmwrestling
@voiceofarmwrestling 10 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@briannewsome
@briannewsome 10 ай бұрын
​@@voiceofarmwrestlingyou guys should make more arm-wrestling training videos because they are really cool thanks for the training videos
@Matthew-Fish
@Matthew-Fish 10 ай бұрын
Great explanation Coach Ray!
@voiceofarmwrestling
@voiceofarmwrestling 10 ай бұрын
Appreciate it!
@WaspMedia3D
@WaspMedia3D 10 ай бұрын
Great explanation. Hoever, this is still far beyond the understanding of Devon haters.
@timlewis5527
@timlewis5527 9 ай бұрын
8 minutes of Ray trying to not say vectors
@voiceofarmwrestling
@voiceofarmwrestling 9 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@EvanRo
@EvanRo 9 ай бұрын
Yes more of these physics and bio-mechanics vids. I learned a lot today
@jamesnm21
@jamesnm21 9 ай бұрын
Someone should make posters out of that shot of Devon cracking that lift off the floor. It's iconic and classic classic Devon.
@raydstacked
@raydstacked 10 ай бұрын
Solid video. Might have damaged a lot of egos though 😂
@voiceofarmwrestling
@voiceofarmwrestling 9 ай бұрын
Probably
@Senedras
@Senedras 9 ай бұрын
The Coach! Thank you for taking the time to explain & share valuable information to us. Have a good day & hope to see you on the table again very soon ❤
@voiceofarmwrestling
@voiceofarmwrestling 9 ай бұрын
Thank you! You too!
@williamiorruz
@williamiorruz 2 ай бұрын
Thats true. The basic principle is when the weight close to ur weight point (your joint) so the the weight load will be heavier. Thank you coach ray 👌🏽
@voiceofarmwrestling
@voiceofarmwrestling 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@mikejensen1473
@mikejensen1473 9 ай бұрын
To anyone who has never done the lift the difference might seems trivial. But the small changes make a big difference. Great explanation!
@sunaan2980
@sunaan2980 10 ай бұрын
best breakdown of the lift. outstanding explanation
@Cr0ssUP
@Cr0ssUP 9 ай бұрын
This channel is one of the best out there. Thank You for your time and effort
@Marc_AD
@Marc_AD 9 ай бұрын
Excellent video! Perfect articulation and the details needed are very useful... something almost nobody does. Well done my friend !
@aeladiaYT
@aeladiaYT 9 ай бұрын
thanks Coach!! always love your videos, keep teaching us and keep kicking ass buddy!
@koaliimossman4457
@koaliimossman4457 9 ай бұрын
Amazing points Coach Ray appreciate all the content. Great deep dive into the complexity of arm wrestling out of the table.
@MchaelTeeter
@MchaelTeeter 9 ай бұрын
Very informative video. Explaining a lot.
@yosht6110
@yosht6110 10 ай бұрын
VERY insightful and informational, thank you for the info!
@voiceofarmwrestling
@voiceofarmwrestling 10 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@Oldsaltydog2
@Oldsaltydog2 9 ай бұрын
I can see where a lot of people would make use of these type of videos, more of these would be appreciated 💪
@bull1890
@bull1890 9 ай бұрын
That was awesoome insight into the technical part of training. Thank you for this it explained alot.
@chrissikora4292
@chrissikora4292 9 ай бұрын
Great video brother! Your training content for arm wrestling is top notch.
@voiceofarmwrestling
@voiceofarmwrestling 9 ай бұрын
I appreciate that!
@woofoosfoosball
@woofoosfoosball 2 ай бұрын
Great video coach 👍. Micro adjustments with this lift are what sets them apart
@voiceofarmwrestling
@voiceofarmwrestling 2 ай бұрын
Yes they are
@HafizShivji786
@HafizShivji786 10 ай бұрын
Spot on !! Hence every Armwresrler has different strengths in different angles 😊👍
@oliviervo6889
@oliviervo6889 9 ай бұрын
My god this channel is gold.
@pascalrouen
@pascalrouen 9 ай бұрын
Excellent video!
@EvolutionaryE
@EvolutionaryE 9 ай бұрын
Would love a video series on this!
@deadseamonster
@deadseamonster 9 ай бұрын
Very informative Ray. Thanks!
@lvl99dust
@lvl99dust 9 ай бұрын
💪💪💪Thanks bro! *Quality* Video 💯
@shashishekharsingh4652
@shashishekharsingh4652 10 ай бұрын
Lifting parallel to the body vs perpendicular to it is also a key difference. It's tougher when you do it parallel to your body body.
@isaacgamez7101
@isaacgamez7101 9 ай бұрын
Man this is a great video
@hamadalsuwaidi8723
@hamadalsuwaidi8723 9 ай бұрын
Please bro I loved this video. We need more biomechanics
@jermojushtteen4936
@jermojushtteen4936 9 ай бұрын
Great video Ray.
@michaellopez2070
@michaellopez2070 9 ай бұрын
This is something about all the back pressure cable comparisons that nobody seems to correctly take into account.
@Marcnshae2011
@Marcnshae2011 9 ай бұрын
Great video! Thx
@alexviero3578
@alexviero3578 9 ай бұрын
Great content
@wojack8272
@wojack8272 9 ай бұрын
Lately Your videos have been just 🔥
@anoniem7062
@anoniem7062 9 ай бұрын
Awesome explanation! Thanks for sharing and also explaining the differences. It all makes sense, but the differences are very easy to overlook, in my opinion. There's also that video comparison between Devon and Ermes in which you can more clearly see, that the exercises they're doing are different.
@kizzmitten1
@kizzmitten1 9 ай бұрын
Thanks so much coach Ray. Super useful. I'm not an armwrestler, but I love the sport and how it is growing. As an older dude (57) I am inspired by Devon and other older strength athletes. It is the power of KZbin that nudged me into some of this unique training. Maybe you can touch on the differences between tendons and muscles sometime.? Stay massive!
@loganschmick792
@loganschmick792 9 ай бұрын
Great video Raymond.
@mikecartier6163
@mikecartier6163 9 ай бұрын
I cant believe Alexey did a Ryan Blowen maneuver.
@clifdunbar7405
@clifdunbar7405 9 ай бұрын
Thanks Ray
@Pablosan7
@Pablosan7 9 ай бұрын
Awesome analytical breakdown, love it! …Voyevoda has probably also seen it and immediately changed his technique 😊
@Thanhatos
@Thanhatos 9 ай бұрын
Thank you !
@tomaszjaskot664
@tomaszjaskot664 9 ай бұрын
Now this was a good, constructive video. 💪
@malikshahzaib97
@malikshahzaib97 9 ай бұрын
Big difference 🔥🔥🔥🔥
@callofdutygamer11
@callofdutygamer11 6 ай бұрын
amazing bro 🔥
@voiceofarmwrestling
@voiceofarmwrestling 6 ай бұрын
Thanks 🔥
@vikingmode9093
@vikingmode9093 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for for the tutorial vids.
@MrDanvillianMonk
@MrDanvillianMonk 9 ай бұрын
The video we all knew we needed 😅
@charlesgress4752
@charlesgress4752 9 ай бұрын
Thanks coach
@lekmusic
@lekmusic 9 ай бұрын
Cool maybe inserting those video clips of them again in the middle and pausing to show the difference in angles and grip would be good (and explaining how each is doing it differently)
@Russellmonroe314
@Russellmonroe314 10 ай бұрын
Good content
@sergeimalynovskyi1370
@sergeimalynovskyi1370 9 ай бұрын
Enjoyed a lot. Please do more with Janis on biomechanics and physics.
@hellboy-sf1fb
@hellboy-sf1fb 9 ай бұрын
I like your explaining my friend 👌👌👌
@voiceofarmwrestling
@voiceofarmwrestling 9 ай бұрын
Thank you so much 🙂
@vedikaraj1101
@vedikaraj1101 9 ай бұрын
Devon proved himself
@dashcamcompilationswithcomment
@dashcamcompilationswithcomment 10 ай бұрын
Simply the leverage topic of physics (Im talking about placing the weight on your arm), thanks!
@voiceofarmwrestling
@voiceofarmwrestling 10 ай бұрын
Welcome!
@ArmwrestlingTrainingCh
@ArmwrestlingTrainingCh 9 ай бұрын
keep doing these type of videos 🙂
@natelsx
@natelsx 9 ай бұрын
Good video. Someone had to do it !!
@hitbm4755
@hitbm4755 9 ай бұрын
Exactly what I wrote on Alexey's video yesterday, he is not working on the same strength scenario than Devon was, due to the narrower angle he took. Devon's exercise is obviously open arm focused, when the match starts, and Alexey's is when he is arguably already in a good position or hook in his match.
@dark-o
@dark-o 9 ай бұрын
Little Devon making sense again 🟢💪
@georgeseccombe4382
@georgeseccombe4382 9 ай бұрын
If your arm is longer then the extra leverage will make this lift harder. Would love to see a video that goes a bit deeper into biomechanics Ray
@audriuskarpavicius2876
@audriuskarpavicius2876 9 ай бұрын
This video made me sub
@BroncoBillyAW
@BroncoBillyAW 9 ай бұрын
More of these videos would be welcomed!
@cliffh7775
@cliffh7775 9 ай бұрын
As the arm angle decreases as the hand rises above the elbow, it seems like some of the tension is transferred off the muscle onto the bone structure. The forearm bones (radius/ulna) become a tent pole that helps support the weight. The more upright the the forearm angle, the greater the effect.
@svman2475
@svman2475 9 ай бұрын
I see good progress on the channel. Cool video bro
@milan.s2681
@milan.s2681 9 ай бұрын
Wtf 😃 they were always first class channel.
@arryharry
@arryharry 9 ай бұрын
Trust the coach to clear this debate up! 💪🏼
@andreaselia2002
@andreaselia2002 10 ай бұрын
BRAVO 👏🏻
@jerrysoini
@jerrysoini 9 ай бұрын
More videos about biomechanics please!
@matteo4266
@matteo4266 9 ай бұрын
Well said bro
@joerossi2669
@joerossi2669 9 ай бұрын
Nice video
@CabalisticSpecies
@CabalisticSpecies 10 ай бұрын
Perfect video 💪🏽 was getting real tired of seeing all the ignorant comments on not understanding how physics works 😅
@Ranger.Vt.
@Ranger.Vt. 9 ай бұрын
Think of it like a crane picking up something heavy. They wouldn’t lay the boom out straight in front of the crane to lift because the crane would literally tip over . They point the broom up for stability and leverage before cabling up and lifting.
@sasabione
@sasabione 9 ай бұрын
Devon is such a deep student/master of the art of strength. Impressive local strength and good form. And what about that Squat?
@ivanvalentin3898
@ivanvalentin3898 9 ай бұрын
Coach Ray is one smart dude. He knows his sport well and he speaks such fluent english and can articulate well
@Hyper__V
@Hyper__V 9 ай бұрын
Very interesting content
@Mr_Jingles_147
@Mr_Jingles_147 9 ай бұрын
My old "mechanic" brain went into overdrive on the strap position, because you're basically describing torque. The further the weight is from the point of energy, the more torque required to move it. Thats why we have 19 different length ratchets in the garage, depending on how big or tight the nut is. Thats why the "over the knuckles" position is the hardest, because it's furthest from the point that the weight is trying to move. Throw in the rotational/pronator aspect and thats an insane amount of leverage required. Great video
@godlyaardvark7265
@godlyaardvark7265 9 ай бұрын
Great video Ray. You forgot to mention how Alexey had a cupped wrist and kipped up the weight with his legs as well though
@jxlp1569
@jxlp1569 9 ай бұрын
make more of this type of video! but with white boards and trigonometry!!
@eslteacherpeter
@eslteacherpeter 9 ай бұрын
You can put a short insert vid of both lifts would make this even better.
@voiceofarmwrestling
@voiceofarmwrestling 9 ай бұрын
I did that on 1s of the video
@AndyandMario
@AndyandMario 9 ай бұрын
Simple and concise description of levers and moment arms. This is why shorter lever arm wrestlers are able to generate more torque than their long lever counter parts. Where longer lever pullers compensate for this is the increased coverage associated with bigger and longer hands, fingers etc (on average). This is where training smart and making lifts more optimal for what you are targeting will allow for better transfer to the table.
@WarmeGrapefruit
@WarmeGrapefruit 9 ай бұрын
damn ray you looking ripped! Also good explanation
@ikonofcoil
@ikonofcoil 9 ай бұрын
Ray, it would be interesting to demonstrate some excersises with bands.
@ogdad3822
@ogdad3822 9 ай бұрын
Yes Truee, Devon move with Letter L, and of course its more hard, and Alexey move with Letter V, yes i know its not easy too, but its not same
@mikedumas2901
@mikedumas2901 9 ай бұрын
Yes we want more!! How about the 90’ can you train it only specifically close to your body or outwards say on the angle you would be at the table but on a 90’ ??
@pprotectas8423
@pprotectas8423 9 ай бұрын
Great content!!! 👍Devon always is called a "Cheater" but he isn't fool himself like others for sure 😅💪
@haranbanjo8024
@haranbanjo8024 9 ай бұрын
Great
@arsalali69
@arsalali69 10 ай бұрын
Great video as always, I seriously learned something here
@voiceofarmwrestling
@voiceofarmwrestling 9 ай бұрын
Glad to hear it!
@LokiLL999
@LokiLL999 9 ай бұрын
Coach 💪
@serotoninless2565
@serotoninless2565 9 ай бұрын
make a video top10 specific exercises for armwrestling
@Sinkatze
@Sinkatze 9 ай бұрын
Janis: Biomechanics Ray: Biomehanics
@robertthompson176
@robertthompson176 9 ай бұрын
Simply looking at the physics aspect it is simple high school stuff. The moment of force is greater when you increase the distance from the fulcrum. Same reason we use a longer spanner or wrench for something that is difficult to loosen.
@Va4esS
@Va4esS 9 ай бұрын
preach, Coach, preach
@henry.bowerslol
@henry.bowerslol 9 ай бұрын
And then we have Ermes who doesnt even know the difference between a pronator based lift and a back pressure based lift... he didnt even wrap belt around the thumb but bragged about doing more weight than devon. Pasta brain :D
@funkysanta9052
@funkysanta9052 9 ай бұрын
Devon's lift is as strict as strict can be. The direction of force that the weight applies is inversely proportional to the angle of the arm from the elbow to the wrist. The more your hand starts to get into the 'uppercut' position, the easier it becomes to lift the weight. Devon's exercise was very tough. Even if guys like Ermes or Voevoda can move more weight than Devon, their arm angle was different.
@SukmaPopeye88-cc1qu
@SukmaPopeye88-cc1qu 9 ай бұрын
devon🔥🔥🔥
@user-dk5rf5ly4t
@user-dk5rf5ly4t 9 ай бұрын
This exercise is very effective
@user-cl8py3ox5m
@user-cl8py3ox5m 9 ай бұрын
Exactly
@henrihermola558
@henrihermola558 10 ай бұрын
Yes yes yes!finally!!!!
@sqwop
@sqwop 9 ай бұрын
That was a great video but where I can buy anabolic air ser?
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