Bizarre Cases With Dark Conclusions

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2:06 Amy Carlson
17:25 Joshua Maddux

[@Cadaber]

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[@mitch8072]

great but i live in Europe

[@hughmortyproductions8562]

Who buys this shit?

[@Villianesscupcake-2002]

If ya had to guess what cadaber wore in high school what would people guess? 😂 hmm... my guess would be cool water or CK1 😂

[@atlantictiger]

Phlur is pronounced “Fleur” as in the french way to say Flower! This correction comes with love 😂

[@MaliciousChickenAgenda]

@@hughmortyproductions8562me 💩 I bought a rubber turd a few days ago

[@avebave6550]

Cadaber intro: 👯‍♀️👯‍♀️🗣️🗣️🎉🎉 Cadaber video: 😕😕💀💀😞😞

[@boycub]

The tonal disconnect gets me everytime

[@edac627]

Word 😂😂😂😂

[@YourLoyalHighness87]

Complete with the old school ballroom piano music lol

[@hangedups2608]

😂

[@AnImAtEdCaRmInE]

Heard the song somewhere else the other day and could not remember why I suddenly felt so spooked 😂

[@LittleMushroomGuy]

I am 100% convinced Cadaber does not care about cologne water

[@poindextertunes]

facts 😂

[@sammykane5967]

Real

[@bobSeigar]

Sure he does, keeps the smell off the cadavers.

[@pepsigirl808]

scentbirds also an mlm which i find funny when the first videos topic is about a cult edit: not an mlm but ceo is definitely in a cult and a scammer

[@rocketbilly]

​@@pepsigirl808fr. They're pretty scummy and their atomisers are cheap as all hell, too. GentsScents did a really good video on them.

[@treyturner9707]

11:35 I love how everytime a crazy person talks about reincarnation they always think that they were some of the most famous people from history in past loves.

[@jckun100]

"I died of dysentery 40 times before turning 10" is just not as interesting I guess

[@poindextertunes]

“I was a gong farmer in medieval times. The cesspits were my calling”

[@shark_kisses5153]

I know! Nobody was ever a normal everyday Joe.

[@andrefarnham4435]

No one was a pedo in a previous life. Where did all the pedos go?!?

[@JensenWinchester1]

Not just that. She was like every famous historical person ever 😅

[@Lightfyre281]

I feel so horrible for the family in the second story...first they lose one child to suicide and then a few years later another one mysteriously vanishes and then they find out he died in a bizarre, horrific way and they will likely never get answers as to how it happened :(

[@mogo5055]

The fun part about the Amy Carlson story is that the cult didn't dissolve over her death. They've had a schism since then and have now split into at least two different cults. That story isn't over just yet.

[@endtimesninja1235]

Yeah that's so fucked up. Man. The insanity is baffling.

[@theoneandonly7019]

it seems like it has. no power, no anything.

[@wolfetteplays8894]

good, based cults.

[@tboogz284]

Not a cult, but a religion

[@primesspct2]

Heart breakingly its not a story, its real peoples lives, and families that are affected. Look at all the people she hurt just in her own family alone. There are always others waiting for their "time at the top". Power is always corrupting.

[@barnesablaze]

Eyes are the first thing to decompose [that is visible to the naked eye]*. I own a trade embalming service in Colorado. Her eyes decayed and shriveled. I have to add tissue builder to people's eyes if they've been down for a while due to the climate up here being so dry. Edited to add some more info: There are 2 routes for decomposing - 1. Decay = comes from 'aerobic' bacteria or being exposed to oxygen. 2. Putrefaction = comes from 'anaerobic' bacteria or by not being exposed to oxygen so it's coming from within the body itself, it can be caused by many factors. The 1st option makes you a mummy & is the most common form of decomposition. The 2nd option makes you bloat, swell & turn to liquid. Sometimes bodies can get to double the size they were at the time of passing

[@poindextertunes]

Great comment. I’m always interested in post mortem pathology. HBO Autopsy was my 💩

[@barnesablaze]

@poindextertunes thankya! & dude same I was obsessed with Dr. G. Medical Examiner back in the day lol might be part of how I ended up being a mortician

[@notaperson9831]

Interesting. I always thought most bodies went through putrefaction unless the environment was extremely cold or dry. I feel like most of the time a body is left in a house it putrefies to some extent. So it’s either decay or putrefaction? Or does both usually happen?

[@crispycritter7022]

Very cool, Courtney! I hope your business thrives and that you are doing well! I visited the Denver area a few years ago. I went to this beautiful little town called Ault a.k.a. A unique little town ✨️

[@cosmictraveler1146]

Well that makes a lot of sense thank you for this enlightening comment because the latter decomposition is what one usually think when you think of it.

[@LonelyGamer4]

When people get hypothermia, a common side effect is their body starts feeling very hot. This often leads to people stripping off their clothes in what’s called paradoxical undressing. That’s what most likely happened to Josh and explains his lack of clothes. They can also go through a process called Terminal Burrowing, where they try to warm themselves by hiding in enclosed spaces, explaining his body ending up in the chimney.

[@smackattack97]

I'm fine with occam's razor-ing this case with this explanation, but I still think it's not a good one. I would think all humans in this situation experiencing hypothermia, while they may in fact take their clothes off, they would start with anything on the upperbody. The lowerbody clothes coming first is kinda strange to me. But I could steelman that theory by Josh's reasoning may have been to keep the shirt on as he anticipated going down the chimney backside first, thus wanting some layer of protection against abrasions/soot. Strange either way you cut it and I honestly lean towards foul play regardless.

[@jamesknapp64]

what I've always believed.

[@scottcantdance804]

I always hear people attributing this to paradoxical undressing. But in reading about it, I read in numerous sources that the phenomena has (apparently) never actually been witnessed by anyone. It's just theoretical. You would think someone would have seen it happen by now. Either in war, or during some really unethical experiments they did with freezing, or with people who survived wilderness situations.

[@jmgajda8071]

@@smackattack97 Also, were he, in fact, paradoxically undressing, I don't think he would have neatly folded his clothes. That doesn't seem logical to me. I do think someone else was involved and it's pretty obvious how. Gonna leave my own comment about it but I'm somewhat shocked that LE hasn't even considered this.

[@Middle-AgedWhiteGuy]

But do they burrow feet first up a chimney? It is weird. I've heard of this case before, and I really don't think paradoxical undressing is a good answer. Occam's razor would say that he went down the chimney trying to break in, but then why would his clothing be folded and not directly under the opening to the chimney. Unless somebody else went in there and saw the clothes and folded them, not knowing that he was in the chimney. It's a very weird set of circumstances. Which means the circumstances that led to it, must be weirder still. I always thought that he tried going down the chimney, and found it too difficult, and couldn't get back out. Possibly tried to wriggle out of his pants, which would have been the only thing he could get off, and then somehow turned himself around and passed from compressional asphyxiation

[@cage8375]

Thousands and thousands of years of human history but every woman who "remembers their past life" was always, without fail, Joan of Arc, Cleopatra and/or Marylin Monroe. Before you become a cult leader you should have to do a mandatory world history course just so we can add a few new names in there.

[@WhoamI-yz9nx]

I imagine if there was such a thing as truly remering past life, most people' would be some random person from a village in China or some other random place who lived a completely boring and uneventful life and is long forgotten by history by now.

[@IconoclastX]

Only notable women in history. Historical women were raising the men to be great. Indespensable value, they had

[@rosen_venus]

I feel like I would just start making people up. I was Clarice McShaunstent. She was a farmer and she had the power to heal people with blessed well water. You haven't heard of her? Duh, Big History wants to hide her existence so no one ever finds out about the mystical healing properties of blessed well water. Which I am selling for 69.99 a bottle (11 fl. oz)

[@MrRyan-wu4jx]

@@WhoamI-yz9nx Buddhism, the religion most associated with belief in past lives doesn’t even limit it to that. They include every living thing. According to them your past life could’ve been a worm that lived three days.

[@FUSIONJAZZMAN420]

The scariest case was the one about cologne. So spooky.

[@Aconitum_napellus]

Have some cheese flavoured cheese.

[@MadamHoneyB]

😂😂😂 This almost made me laugh out loud. Love the comment section for this channel!

[@JustBadGrammar]

...I usually fast forward through those, but paused real quick at 'Missing Person'. H'whut.

[@BigBoyJay_69]

Either those cops are sociopaths or the corpse was absolutely terrifying and had a coping mechanism due to their laughter.

[@TheQueenOfSheba]

My guess is the combo of the house and people being weird and it’s a known cult and then finding the body… I think it was just coping. Because it was like a bad cop tv show lol

[@OysterBoyo]

I feel like they were coping for sure. Also you see lots of ugly things in that line of work and we don't know what they have seen in their career, maybe they saw some of the most horrible things ever and that's their method of coping, if it was the first time it was probably an hysterical reaction still to cope with it, I mean, what was described seemed really horrible, imagine being there... I highly doubt they're all sociopaths, the chance is really low that 3 or more cops are all sociopaths...

[@meredithgrubb4497]

It's a cope. She was blue from the silver, had been painted on, and decorated with lights. Imagine seeing that shit, u almost have to laugh to have it not really get to u.

[@rokukou]

Her followers had ”decorated” her face, there was paint and glitter etc. It took awhile to even recognize what the hell it was and the fairy lights probably made it only much more absurd. Im willing to bet most people who handle our deceased wouldve laughed, it’s more about crazy peeps doing crazy things rather than laughing at the corpse.

[@castielnovak6063]

trauma nurse here, definitely coping. Ive seen it mamy times at my work, where something super stressful and traumatizing happens and we just start laughing

[@HelenaBonhamCarnage]

So that stupid scentbird company has a 'missing person' scent? Anyone else find that to be in poor taste? Yikes. 😬😬😬

[@dumbassgoth]

yeah no i was genuinely shocked they did that it seems so tone deaf honestly

[@nonstp24hr]

It’s from another brand called Phlur. Scentbird doesn’t make it they just sell it..

[@sugmanots]

It's not that deep. You're literally watching a video about a cult that kept mummified remains of their leader and a person who was found decomposing in a chimney.

[@Zzz-cm5kw]

The brand is Phlur and it's just because it's reminiscent of the scent of someone you're missing, not someone gone missing.

[@HeliumQueen]

Scentbird doesn't make any cologne, they just sell samples of other companies that make it. Phlur makes "missing person" and they say the name is supposed to mean it smells like a person who you miss, not missing like they've disappeared.

[@Snarl_Marx]

Mt. Shasta native here. I remember when the Love Has Won cult moved into the area. They were actually quite at odds with the well established I Am cult. Both believing in Telos, Lumarians, and that the mountain was a portal. Just disagreeing on which batsh*t nonsense was the *correct* batsh*t nonsense. Beautiful area, truly stunning. But I do *not* miss the people.

[@ZeranZeran]

I find the theory and story of Lemuria / Lemurians to be super interesting.. but I cannot imagine joining a cult or ever taking anyone this seriously about it. Let alone moving to some random location and proclaiming "THIS IS IT! WE JUST KNOW!" - People are weird creatures.

[@hellbound2012]

I fully agree

[@peterkeigwin847]

If I remember correct Amy had silver poisoning. That's why she was so blue before death

[@bryangarcia5599]

That's correct. Argyria resulting from colloidal silver ingestion, to be precise.

[@darlenetroise7079]

Yup, i saw that doc on Max

[@poindextertunes]

It boggles my mind that everybody was in denial of her alcoholism. Cults are a helluva drug ☹️

[@janemiettinen5176]

Colloidal silver messes up your ability to get enough oxygen, hence the blue face, it can be easily taken too far. Alcoholism doesnt help. Their leader was basically angry drunk smurf, I dont know what to think about her followers..

[@audreymuzingo933]

Uh yeah, Cadaber mentioned her use of colloidal silver repeatedly. 😆

[@michaelkleen7991]

Is it possible for a cult to be too extreme? Yes, yes it is

[@falsouth762]

Jim Jones disagrees.

[@subzero07094]

These cults are no more crazy than any other mainstream religion. Religion in general is a bunch of horse sh*t.

[@ZeranZeran]

The Mansons got a bad rap, Charlie was a cool guy (I'm joking, F those killers, and their insane leader)

[@BMR3]

Your intro is such a banger, please never change it.

[@PoptartParasol]

When i put it on my toddler dances to it haha

[@--s--]

it’s the same beat from the kill tony podcast intros. i wonder what the original beat is called.

[@milk11111]

She was 19 billion years and have been over 500 people… Hmm, the math must also be a believer.

[@TheCaptnHammer]

And the whole lifespan of the universe too.😂😂

[@DimesDCP]

The first 10 minutes of Love Has Won is insane. The unblurred body cam view of the woman is so wild. It can only be described as a blue mummy.

[@mommy2libras]

Yeah, I actually had to back it up to watch it again because I wasn't sure what I was seeing the first time. Then I thought maybe they'd put some kind of doll or something to represent her there. Then I realized what I was seeing. She didn't look human, more like some sort of mummy alien.

[@hellbound2012]

Nice

[@mrpanda750]

From what i understand. This is the first time a Cult leader has been trapped within their own cult.

[@MrYelly]

No, and far from it. There have been millions of cults / religions through time.

[@dirckthedork-knight1201]

​@@MrYelly *Oh the edge!!*

[@lostpelican1883]

@@dirckthedork-knight1201 how is that edgy? It's true.

[@filler7149]

Nah theres alot of that esp in new age cults because new age is a hub for religious schizophrenics due to its non descriptive and peace and loveish doctrines that appeal to someones need for a higher spiritual purpose without offering any real reasons other than it just feels good man Take someone with a "heavy presence" (severe mental illness) and make them charismatic and lonely/wanting of validation enough to capitalize on the new attention and it's very easy to get trapped in your own cult

[@mk-sh6iy]

if I had a nickle for every time a leader of a cult who decides to run for president, I'd have two nickles, which isn't a lot, but it's strange that it happened twice

[@DaimyoD0]

1:19 Thank you for resisting the urge to work this scent name into some kind of segue or integration with your channel lol. There are way too many content creators who talk about true crime and then put together some VERY tasteless ad segues lol

[@honeycoves3707]

Did you see the one where he (not sure the tag) went on about police dogs stopping searching for a scent if you were a missing person and they no longer smelt it anymore …. Which is why you should use scent bird for a distinct scent !! That was crazy to me I literally had my jaw drop 😣

[@DaimyoD0]

@@honeycoves3707 Cadaber said that? If so, big yikes. I don't remember it off the top of my head but that is _extremely_ distasteful. When I see that kind of stuff, I always comment to say, you really don't need a segue. Just jump straight to, "this video is sponsored by..." You don't need anything else; with this kind of subject matter, you'll just end up making your sponsored spot more cringe.

[@honeycoves3707]

@@DaimyoD0 nope not him thankfully, just another youtuber with similar content. One of the big ones too tho. I think the way he did it on this video is the best for sponsored content, the end or start . I big agree placing it in the middle is distasteful, especially with the segues

[@booognish]

“Speaking of dealing with the horrifying smell of rotting mummified remains, todays sponsor scent bird can help with that!”

[@sappholily]

@@booognishlazy masquerade? or was it someone else?

[@jojocaitlin8508]

A few things about love has won; The cops did know that there was a body and that it was not a homicide. Their reaction is odd but my guess is the absurdity of it is what got to them. They had decorated her body, wrapped it in lights, and had her hooked up to a few gadgets thinking they could tell when her spirit came back in her body. I imagine it looked ridiculous honestly. Also the way they made their silver supplement was apparently to "cook" silver wire in water with a battery and alligator clamps. Its pretty common in the nutty health communities. She turned completely blue at the end because she thought she could heal herself by consuming more. Maybe its some relief that they weren't selling some kind of mud water or something 😅

[@mabelpines1533]

missing person cologne might have been a bad choice for the channel where missing persons are always murder victims

[@hellbound2012]

Nobody in this video was murdered

[@quixotik1021]

Moral of the Video: Colorado is a scary place to live.

[@jamiekelly3113]

as a colorado native i swear its only a lil spooky!

[@DennisMoore664]

Especially out in those mountain towns and the national forests.

[@elanorjorgensen6912]

I'm from Nebraska. Zachariah's story is so sad, the police were called out to investigate his shouting, but by the time they showed up he had stopped, and they didn't investigate further.

[@Jegbmf]

Also from Nebraska, can’t believe that happened in Norfolk of all places

[@maralinekozial9131]

Something ive learned watching different KZbin channels tge past two years is to never climb into a chimney , never go underwater cave diving & never swim in any body of water in northern Australia

[@SJTJ]

The clothes were NOT found folded up neatly. He got stuck in the cabin and paradoxical undressing kicked in with his hypothermia. He got twisted around in the chimney and suffocated. This poor family just needs some grace. Same with Elisa Lam. Nothing otherworldly or untoward, just young people in unfortunate circumstances..

[@hellbound2012]

How do you know?

[@ElSantoLuchador]

13:23 In her alter area she has a picture of a holy Pepe as the Egyptian god Kek. Seems part of her religious philosophy is borrowed from 4-chan.

[@TORO2036]

His clothes folded neatly at the bottom of the house with the chimney he was found deceased in, is one of the strangest things I have ever heard, considering that his death was ruled accidental. If he was murdered, why would the killer leave those clothes there - then again, why climb in an old stone chimney with no pants??? Good video. Extremely strange stories you delivered today Cadaber!

[@lanadelsultana]

The clothes being folded was in no contemporary source, it came from a Reddit post.

[@kingamity1985]

He had hypothermia and this video pretty blatantly misrepresents the story

[@VomitPinata]

@kingamity1985 I agree. I saw another channel's video on this same case a couple of years ago and they came to the conclusion that he got hypothermia and then they went into other cases and showed examples where people have done similar things when stricken with hypothermia. They kind of go mad. They feel extremely hot and disrobe, even tho they're freezing. They'll try to crawl into tight spaces. People literally lose their minds. In the Daytlov Pass incident hypothermia is the cause of their death. Some think their bizarre behavior before their death, as well as the bizarre scene the rescuers found, were a result of the effects of hypothermia.

[@temerityxd8602]

@@kingamity1985 Actually I think this video pretty accurately represents the story as it currently exists on the internet, it's just that the current version of the story has had lot's of incorrect stuff added to it over the years and is no longer a proper account of the event, but you kind of need to look at primary sources to realize that.

[@poolhalljunkie9]

A lot of the 411 cases supposedly have the clothes folded neatly when they're found.

[@amolegere1]

Not too weird that the clothes would be removed. If he was experiencing hypothermia, there's a point where the body gets too tired to constrict blood vessels and they relax. The rush of blood makes you feel extremely hot so you end up wanting to take your clothes off. Still doesn't explain all the other things though.

[@gregbors8364]

Time to do a doober with Cadaber

[@MrHerbsky]

Smoking it right now

[@big4headedGangster]

Im gay

[@jomoland]

Puff 😊 Puff 💨 Pass 💨

[@aaaawubadugh8054]

You could call him Cadoober

[@rokukou]

Hope you quit your bad habit friend wishing you the best 👍

[@CorvieClearmoon]

The Josh story just made me think of something. When I was in my teens I was at a friends house with 2 other friends (and the one whose house it was). Two guys, two girls. The two guys were running in and out of the house and the friend whose house it was locked the other guy outside after stealing his shirt. The guy outside found an open window and clambered in. He didn't want to be outside the house banging on all the doors and windows while half dressed. I guess what I'm getting at is if the house had been used as a hangout spot and Josh was lured there to be pranked or bullied, Josh may have tried to get inside the house to get his clothes and only saw the chimney as a way to get inside. The person or people who pranked/bullied may have not wanted to get caught when Josh got lodged in the chimney and tried to hide their crime with the breakfast bar before running away. Just a thought.

[@smackattack97]

If I had to invoke occam's razor, I'd feel comfortable sticking with this.

[@meredithgrubb4497]

I think it would hard for more than 1 person involved to keep their mouth shut tho. I do believe it was foul play but I think it was only one person.

[@allineedis1mike81]

According to the owner of the cabin the chimney had a rebar grate fixed to the opening on the outside which was still there when they did the demolition. They do this to keep raccoons and other critters out when nobodies there. And if there was an updraft through the chimney its possible nobody would smell the decomposition. He had to get in it from the inside. It's definitely a weird case. Generally weird cases like this turn out to be due to people doing something weird and unexpected. He could have had a psychological problem he'd been hiding, something that produces hallucinations and delusions. Or possibly drug induced psychosis. Or another person doing something to him that was weird and unexpected for whatever reason. It's a terrible story regardless. Poor kid. People don't always act rationally, even when their own life depends on it. KZbin has thousands of examples of people doing irrational things that got them killed. I'm not victim blaming, nobody deserves to die for a stupid innocent mistake. But reality generally does not care what people think we deserve.

[@thecorruptversion]

@@smackattack97 the entire comment section has people saying the words "occam's razor". I know you wanna sound smart and shit but just say "simplest explanation".

[@smackattack97]

@@thecorruptversion Idk what to say other than I was not trying to sound smart.. thought it was a commonly used phrase, sorry if that offended you somehow. If at all anything i'd expect "invoke" to sound smarty pants..

[@HomoLegalMedic]

Lawyer here. In the legal sector, police included, we see absolutely horrific stuff- the evidence photos and videos I've seen would be enough to put a lot of people on disability for PTSD. We laugh, a lot, we joke, a lot. You either laugh or become emotionally ruined, along with your career.

[@CareenasAdventures]

Even though I've heard of all these stories before, I really enjoyed listening to them in your style. Your voice is so relaxing and the images and animations really bring the stories to life.

[@SG-bp4lg]

Thank god you censored the word suicide in this video about the tragic deaths and crazed cults. I would have been offended otherwise.

[@kennykaniff]

😂😂😂

[@MattLake-kh7by]

KZbin makes you censor certain potentially ‘Triggering’ words

[@kennykaniff]

@@MattLake-kh7byyes anyone who uses YT knows this. you couldn't sense the sarcasm I guess

[@ethribin4188]

Story 2: There us a thing like paradoxical undressing. Also, hunger, thirst, sickness, and cold, can cause dillusion and temporary insanity. I do think Josh's death was an accident, caused by harsh enviromemt.

[@Theconfirmationtruth]

This is one of my top 3 favorite channels on KZbin. I can listen for days on end

[@Cainb23]

man its so disappointing when I'm super hype a youtuber who rarely uploads drops a video, but then the cases in the video are 2 I've already heard a million times just on youtube alone 😭😭 unfortunate part of watching a lot of channels in the true crime and horror communities. if you guys start watching him, nick, lazy masq, eudoxia, etc.. even my all time favorite youtuber, nexpo, you'll quickly find yourself disappointed with most uploads because someone else more than likely covered it already, usually more than one channel.

[@--s--]

agreed 1,000%!

[@fidelio9301]

At least nexpo had cool visuals so that’s fine

[@heatherfeathers]

Mr Ballen is great.

[@Masatisan]

Fascinating Horror is a favorite of mine, if you dont already know it you should check it out

[@negtype13]

Try Beyond Creepy. That guy (X) purposely searches out and tells the tales of those that haven’t been covered a hundred times 🤘 And the best part is that they are all true reports 🤩

[@canadian_cranberry]

Cadaber I just want you to know how much I (and probably multitudes of other people) really appreaciate your work. You're my favourite KZbin spooky guy and I love listening to your videos while I do chores or play video games. You have such a great voice and an amazing channel! Keep up the good work man!

[@answerman9933]

If I were to claim a past life it would be of an average "peasant", not someone well-known from history.

[@IamAnAmerican.]

You just made my day special!! Thank you so much, i needed this 😊😊

[@DesertZo6]

I suggest you do some more research on Joshua Maddux if you found this interesting. Joshs case is way more mysterious and strange then this short synopsis could convey.

[@dirckthedork-knight1201]

Really? Could you perhaps give some hints

[@kennykaniff]

Yea. Don't leave us hanging!!! Spit it out!!

[@Matty_Ice87]

You have the best, most soothing voice. I can listen to your videos all day. Great work on the videos my friend!😊

[@samiam8606]

Woohoo! Ive been waiting!!!!

[@MakeCaliNiceAgain]

It is now completely involuntary for me to do the 'Roxbury Nod' every time I hear your intro music 😭😂

[@beccav4181]

The cops making jokes and laughing is the most horrific thing about the first story

[@Legionmint7091]

Is it possible that Joshua accidentally fell into the chimney and then removed his clothes in a desperate attempt to break free, throwing the clothes down the chimney? Could someone else have found them at a later point and folded them without even knowing Joshua was stuck in the chimney?

[@ReaperSolo]

Love this series, great content as always, thanks Jeff

[@CyberWarezz05]

Ok, what Amy Carlson did was awful, but her followers were just as bad. The fact that she begged to be taken to the hospital and they refused, makes you wonder if they did it as a form of revenge, because I honestly refuse to believe that they were so brain washed in order to refuse medical care for her. That woman needed medical help for her mental problems, not a cult...

[@emmareilly5141]

Happy days cadaber has uploaded 😊

[@benmcreynolds8581]

The accident theory doesn't work. His clothes were folded neatly inside the cabin. A cabinet was pushed in front to block the chimney from the INSIDE. Why would the theory of someone going into a chimney to get in somewhere fit here when people were clearly already inside the cabin? Also it's possible that top grate was taken off and reattached by the same person who moved the cabinet to block the fireplace and folded his clothes neatly.. There's too much to this one to say it's just like the other chimney deaths... Come on..

[@sorinaoancea7994]

When you post feels like Christmas morning.

[@pauloseixas5452]

hey it's been awhile glad you still up and running

[@kennykaniff]

He did a video 3 weeks ago. Not that long ago. Cadaber doesn't upload every week like most channels.

[@deanr1018]

This just made my day.

[@bluberri]

OOO YEEAAA NEW CADABER

[@JoeRogansForehead]

It just so happens I have an obsession with the product that sponsored this video!! How amazing !

[@RG-mt2yr]

Solid work as always

[@BeefSkellington]

"Is it possible for a cult to be considered too extreme?" No, there has never been a cult that has crossed the line until the first cult happened.

[@byggrynsgroet]

please never change your intro❤

[@OverhaulTwenty26-ts7wn]

Maybe Josh sat on the chimney and the mesh covering gave In so he fell in and was kind of in a folded position. Then ran out of breath,maybe his body dropped a bit as his body lost muscle mass as it began to mummify that drop could have then caused his body to slowly collapse into the fetal position given the lengthy amount of time it took for him to be discovered ... Just my thoughts tho

[@yakacm]

Older cop see a dead mummified body wrapped in a sleeping bag, and his 1st response is to laugh manically, well OK. I think that's maybe what's called a coping mechanism?

[@ctenophoras]

The laughing caught me so off guard I think I’d be nervous laughing too tbh

[@camcam794]

My dudes probably seen a lot of crazy shit. Probably desensitized.

[@pv2639]

And your point is?

[@fromgravity]

yes. people often laugh when they're nervous or uncomfortable.

[@rubycube1506]

There were Christmas lights wrapped around the mummified body, too. I think I'd laugh too.

[@MarioGoatse]

Video starts at 2:09 .

[@staygoldpwnyboy923]

I busted out laughing when he was pronouncing those absurd cologne names

[@hotlikewow]

holy shit im from norfolk and the said chimney death was just a block away from me, never expected it to be mentioned in one of these videos. truly such a strange case

[@kurtv.gabhart5441]

Love your channel ❤️

[@patrickmcinerney9491]

That's an unfortunate decision to advertise the missing person scent on this channel, considering you've interviewed family members of missing people on here. Please do more.

[@sandrafaith]

Must be something in the water--just saw a recent video on another channel about the second case yesterday. (Always gonna watch Cadaber, tho) That photo of Josh in front of a fireplace is particularly chilling in retrospect...

[@thestolenlemon]

oh cadaber how i missed you so much

[@darkones4370]

Amy Carlson is not that powerful lol. Its crazy how she went to such "heights", only to end up mummified and eyeless.

[@chefkazeg]

YES! Waking up to another Cadaber video is a great way to kick off a Monday!

[@flogoro]

13:23 Is that a Pepe with "KEK" written under it in the background hahaha

[@cainmathewson1857]

"Is it possible for a cult to be considered too extreme?" Yeah. I dont think thats a question that needs to be asked." Nah for real this was another fantastic vid

[@little.tricks]

These are both very common stories that I've heard multiple times before.

[@kennykaniff]

We're so proud of you! If you think by sharing this anybody will care, you're mistaken.

[@thecorruptversion]

@@kennykaniff I care, because I think the same. Very lazy video.

[@kennykaniff]

@@thecorruptversion well we're proud of you too

[@brianshissler3263]

I love cologne too. And i refuse to wear cheap crap. But i dont like spending money. So i get them at ross for wayyyyyy less than anywhere else i can find.

[@PatRick-zy1vb]

17:58 - Jim Lahey in the background on the left

[@derivesrurale]

maddux: hypothermia induced craziness ? that's an obvious "why" to consider.

[@greedyk]

I fell like She literally got that kabal shit from mortal kombat

[@peachbunnys01]

U want me to believe the people in the cult weren’t using drugs ? Come on now lmao

[@MissMocha]

The definition of hippies is in their house LOL

[@nestcamo1181]

I prefer to smell like sweat, marlboros, and depression. Thanks tho!

[@cjthebeesknees]

He said Marlboros, bahaha. Reds or Blacks?

[@nestcamo1181]

@@cjthebeesknees southern cuts!

[@cjthebeesknees]

@@nestcamo1181 ahhh, my disappointment is immense, haha.

[@SirSpenace]

Google is doing the most to protect cult leaders, huh? I've tried posting a comment about that nutcase like 5 times now, all different iterations. Don't eat silver. It's a heavy metal.

[@sebby324]

First one is like a ready or not mission

[@shadquirk607]

Josh's case is simple, he was trying to get inside the cabin because he was freezing but someone inside tried to stop him. Most likely a transient or someone who was not supposed to be there, and most importantly, frightened of letting him in. Solved.

[@EX7RUD1CON]

It’s kind of lame that this is a sponsored video and things are still censored

[@Skowl3883]

The fact that Carlson took so much colloidal silver that she became a Smurf is frankly bizarre and only a tiny aspect of how delusional this woman actually was.

[@GlurglePop]

Mankind is built with an innate need to have a spiritual connection with something. Believing in a higher power is healthy in moderation. It helps a lot of people feel that they have a purpose, that their being here is intentional.

[@kennykaniff]

Yes I agree. I think the belief in SOMETHING gives people a purpose and a reason to explain things. Like totally random happenings, people will say it's a sign from God🤔

[@GlurglePop]

@@kennykaniff you nailed it. I did the same kind of thing in Iraq, obsessively looking for signs, omens blah blah blah to help me not die. Soldiers turn doubly superstitious when downrange. I mean, I guess I could say it worked, we are here commenting right?

[@kennykaniff]

@@GlurglePop I would like to thank you for your service first and foremost and I have a very close friend who is a Marine and he has told me something very similar so I've had this conversation many times. It was something he was looking for to hold onto. Something, anything, to give him some hope and I think religion works the same way with people

[@TheAnanaki]

Offering absolution is what distinguishes a cult from a religion. Size has nothing to do wirh it.

[@n03111]

Feel bad for the kid and his family from the last story. It's bizarre how they found him, and you definitely don't end up like that on your own without something going horribly wrong. Only reasonable explanation *I* can think of is he was having a "good time" with someone and maybe got caught by someone else with his pants down (figuratively and literally). Maybe like a fight happens and he gets knocked out and pushed into the chimney to hide him? Or maybe he just had a really bad trip and ended up taking a dive? A mystery...

[@m.michaels]

Those cops are Gs!!!! If you're not from a rough town and don't talk to police or their technicians, yeah their behavior seems weird. To me it would seem weird if they hadn't reacted that way.

[@GlurglePop]

Coping can make you seem like a monster to the unaccustomed.

[@sugmanots]

Bffr.

[@m.michaels]

@@sugmanots lol!!!!!!!

[@NIX5Cents]

Somebody dropped Josh down the chimney, then put the metal grate back on the top!

[@catasrophieGrrl]

I think you can force someone (by force, at gunpoint, after beating them, etc) to strip and climb up in a chimney. He may have gotten turned around when he thought he was safe enough to try and climb out, and gotten stuck.

[@tokiwartuthe]

Hypothermia makes people strip like that

[@andre-nb6ts]

I was literally just binge watching your vids and saw you uploaded😩 bless up

[@unownintendo]

Why does Mt. Shasta come up on almost every mystery channel lmao. I literally live in the area

[@meredithgrubb4497]

A lot of legends about a lot of creepy stuff in ur area.

[@unownintendo]

@@meredithgrubb4497 I had no idea until recently. I don’t think people realize how close to the Yuba 5 case this area is as well. I pretty much live right between the two.

[@kennykaniff]

​@@unownintendo I'm sure you know about the documentary called murder mountain. It's like 6 episodes long if I remember correctly. I think that's what it was called. Great docu!!!

[@Snarl_Marx]

​@@unownintendo yooo what up fellow Shasta folk! I literally grew up in the city of Mt. Shasta. Don't meet a lot of us in the internet wilds! Gorgeous area, creepy happenings.

[@norfolkronin6307]

So what's it like in another dimension?

[@andrewkelley9405]

How do people still fall for these things?

[@alisonkalbskopf6817]

Trauma, mental illness?

[@kennykaniff]

Soooooo many answers to that question

[@qinkster]

here before the title change

[@deplorablesteve7442]

13:35 A follower actually confessed to disobeying an order from Carlson in the year 1431 and what's worse is everyone believed it. That is the funniest thing I've heard this week.

[@ludiprice]

I imagine the owner never smelled the dead body because that cabin smelled like shit. Both literally and figuratively.

[@brunanasss]

WAKE UP NEW CADABER VIDEO JUST DROPPED

[@Beeyo176]

24:13 I usually just listen, but happened to look up at this part. Freaked me right tf out

[@kennykaniff]

That's the treat with Cadaber!! You gotta WATCH the content!

[@katiemaycosplay]

The smell in that house could have been described as interesting...