Picking up Tesla Model Y RWD with BYD Blade battery from Giga Berlin

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[@t.d.5804]

Plug for ScanMyTesla OBD Adapter is in the center console. Remove the carpet on the left side of the console, thats where the drivers right leg is. So right of front right side of the drivers seat. Just pull the carpet patch out. Pictures and infos are in the german TFF Forum

[@OlavAlexanderMjelde]

did they move it? In my 2023 VIN YP from Berlin, its in the centre console (rear of it), pulling off the plastic cover and then carefully opening the cable there.

[@t.d.5804]

@@OlavAlexanderMjelde It was changed with the new structural battery pack. The MiG + MiC LR still have it in the rear. Easy to find out, just remove the rear cover and you will see

[@nakfan]

Tesla Bjørn for the VIN 😅

[@korhojoa_]

On the e-Golf, you can run the heater while plugged in, but you need to either use the scheduled charge function or the app. Stupid design decision imo.

[@randommtbing5631]

I didn't know about the 10% inflation over the 2.9 bar on the Nokian tyres. Those Hakkapeliitta 5s defitely felt soft at 2.7 bar before I inflated them to 2.9 bar. I have to try them with 3.1. Thanks Bjørn for the tip.

[@kodez79]

This goes for all winter tires. All of the ones I called suggest adding at least 10% due to the softer rubber and thus side wall. 15-20% is usually also ok, but will worsen your grip as it reduces the contact patch.

[@SpenserFL]

Any plans to take a longer look at the 2024 model 3 refresh?

[@cedarcanoe]

Best channel for EV content, and best personality as well! 👍

[@ricosun]

Like a Bossss !

[@karelfranchoo]

SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIT

[@christianfrohling5220]

What the heck is that?

[@johnair1]

(Amongst) the best also when it comes to honesty and transparency when it comes to true assessment of EV´s.

[@SergiodeAbreu]

Really curious about this test. After 7800km on a similar MYG... using teslamate battery health graph it estimated 1.9% degradation. With usable battery capacity (new ) of 59.4kwh and now 58.2kwh ... Meaning lost 7.7km of range. where, charged 42.9% on DC and 57.08% on AC. keep the great work mister.

[@sargfowler9603]

I am so jealous of the fantastic charging structure you have in your country. In the UK it's absolutely terrible. Most chargers are only 11Kw too.

[@Stewiedude1]

The infrastructure is definitely lacking here. The reason I choose tesla model3 a couple of years ago. I'm optimistic it's improved since then - it'll determine what I get next

[@Markcain268]

Evs aren't taking off as hoped in the uk.

[@Martinit0]

Well maybe BP is going to install some of those Tesla V4 superchargers they announced buying?

[@RENAULTOlivier]

Come in France 😉

[@Tom-bp6no]

@@Markcain268The British tabloid media and Tufton street think thanks are working against them as well. A very hostile environment.

[@LePerlashez]

4:08 0,29 € per kWh is a very good price. Here in France, the lowest price you can get at a supercharger is 0,25 € and 0,3 € at a Tesla SuC.

[@SuspectOnTheLam]

In Canada we have some of the cheapest electricity in the world but Tesla still charges us $0.59/kWh (0,40 €) for the cheapest Superchargers. Not sure why they are ripping us off so hard here.

[@tarbandi]

Haha in the "Democracy" of Hungary, Tesla superchargers are the cheepest which is 0,52 EUR/kWh...

[@maxbiagi3091]

Dream prices guys 😢😢 In Czech rep. Ionity price 0,79EUR. The lowest sellary in EU but the most expensive Kw/h 😂😂😂

[@berthogendoorn2133]

Love your new location, great start to your videos!

[@christophdierker7646]

Do you plan a Range test on EQE with heatpump this winter? It would be interesting to see in comparison vs. the one without heatpump…

[@bjornnyland]

No

[@jacopo.scarpellini]

The problem with charging LiFePO4 cells in cold temperature is that normally below 0°, because that’s when lithium plating occurs

[@kutrix2010]

Charging actually doesn't seem that much quicker than CATL - I did 7%-96% in MY23 CATL LFP in 38mins at SC. With CATL being a slightly larger pack, we might get pretty much same time results in the end. Pitty we don’t get to have MY LFP CATL on 19” to compare to. 20’s are way less efficient.

[@kehletten]

You can also use the service mode on the Tesla screen 😉👍🏼

[@hmsq82]

Any instructions for this?

[@HelloMyFriend_]

Björn, are we ever gonna get the 7 seat version of this car in Europe? Mercedes GLB just isn't it.

[@ecomasterster]

7 seater actually pretty bad, no space at all.

[@Maitreya3001]

The 6 seater model X is cool but quite a lot more expensive

[@davidcarrier8462]

Bjorn go to service mode you will get some info about the battery.

[@ecomasterster]

great content as always Bjorn, would be nice to seep consumption on 1000km challenge but 120km/h stricky, or 123(120 by GPS)

[@Frygisk]

There is no place in Norway where you can test that without going back and forth the same stretch at least 5-6 times, so I think that would be an unfeasible or extremely boring test.

[@FGGiskard]

What would be the difference with the 90/120 range tests? I don’t really understand what additional information you would get. Apart from it being unfeasible, the 1000km challenge is not really about keeping a steady speed (as long as you’re driving at more or less the same average speed).

[@t.d.5804]

My average over 17.000km from June to October here in Germany was 15.6 kWh/100km (bord computer). Now its a bit colder, 16.4Kwh right now, will be a bit more in winter

[@Joe-ud2hb]

​@@t.d.5804Hi do you charge to 100% all the time with the LFP?

[@t.d.5804]

@@Joe-ud2hb No, only for long distance shortly before departure. No battery needs to be charged to 100%. The BMS needs 100% to read the batt condition, but the cells itself do not need and want that. Common misunderstanding that its needed to charge to 100% to calculate SoC but that has nothing to do with the battery itself. Keep it at 70-80% max for best longlivety, same with NMC.

[@giorgi.b]

Thanks for all that videos and reviews, you doing great job to promote EV world wide 👏👍👍👍

[@ostehandleren]

Can you please remove the frunk and check for frontcasting?

[@GB-vk7wu]

18:00 the poor man's Tesla hahahaha

[@ricosun]

Is BYD holding back on the charge performance on their own cars ? The BYD Seal has a 80kwh battery it could easily do 190kw, if it was a Telsa. Yet it. only does 150kw why ?

[@RobertPuklin]

BYDs Thermal management is not as advanced.

[@ricosun]

@@RobertPuklin Yes Telsa has the best for their price range. But BYD comon, your holding yourself back.

[@TheFiftyBlack]

The thermal management can be improved via Software upgrade?

[@ronald4life1]

State side you can get a 2024 Audi E-Tron for about 650,000 nok after Audi incentives and local car dealer discounts... It's a pretty darn good deal considering it's quality over the Model Y and 106kw battery... But the Model Y is still a nice enough car for sure!

[@c.j.9401]

kWh

[@bertp4604]

You can purchase 2 Model Y performances here in OZ. $190,000 au for the Audi😅

[@cokyrobes]

Does the Highland model 3 have the BYD blade too?

[@doktordok7517]

Up

[@LuciaGomez-yb3om]

Awesome, is the BYD battery only from Berlin?

[@BigEightiesNewWave]

GigaBerlin I was hoping Colonel Klink comes out.

[@eos9243]

8:20 "If I navigate to cleavage" Nice one🤣

[@johannesb5807]

Does the Model Y have HW4 upgrade?

[@johannesb5807]

@@BBingo-v5i how do can you tell?

[@ostehandleren]

I dont Think so 😢 Berlin model y lr does not. If Camera linses are red they May be hw4 cameras. Btw model y in the us only Got hw “3.5”.

[@lyonel4044]

Always getting that annoying Speed Limit warning, can't turn it off.

[@MaykThewessen]

Are these BYD Blade from Giga Berlin still produced? Or are only CATL produced currently? Which one to prefer as an overall package? Since BYD charges faster but CATL has less degradation and 62 kWh gross instead of 60 kWh for BYD

[@TheEdmaster87]

They should put new 4680 batteries into new model 3 and upcoming new model y. But seems to have problems with it

[@altair1405]

was this 3%-82% in 22minutes?

[@malteroeper3723]

10-82 he said he made a new session - but probably like 25 minutes from 3 percent

[@t.d.5804]

9-100% in 31min on a V2 charger, 25-90% in 20min on a V3/4 charger. No need to plug it at low SoC.

[@fabriziom]

The 3% to 99% was 39min too.

[@qb4hkm]

Great video! Why you DP the OBD and not use S3XY commander for scanmytesla?

[@RobinKnapp]

"What happened to the Ladestau?" 😂 Love your German comments

[@fabriziom]

1000km challenge with this charging beast model Y will be exciting. Predicting similar time than LR.

[@tmyrdal]

Did you get anser on where the OBD port is hideing? And did you get it to work?

[@IamY00t]

So if I order a Y Performance today as a Norwegian I'll get the BYD battery?

[@danielpenov]

Man, after that crap Nissan even an eGolf looks as a huge upgrade.

[@BigEightiesNewWave]

Niiiiice. Like a BAUS!

[@Elektroauto1984]

It is always doing the same curve more or less, even if you go with 90% to the supercharger it is starting with 180kW

[@FenixFenix-p5p]

Is Tesla 3 new model having byd battery?

[@TheLastMoccasin]

Ugh oh! Long Range needs a boost ASAP to stay ahead of this!!

[@bhmbill]

Should paint one wall of your garage green and use it as a green screen for videos.

[@bjornnyland]

Hell naw

[@hulktheman9248]

What letter is the 7th digit of your VIN?

[@natehill8069]

You cant run the heater while plugged in? In NORWAY????

[@bjornnyland]

Of course we can. Who said we couldn't?

[@swissfreedom7594]

Will you test the Modell 3 highland? That would be very interesting!

[@bjornnyland]

Yes

[@swissfreedom7594]

Hell yea@@bjornnyland

[@mickesvenson]

Björn, do the new model Y from giga berlin come with that blade tech or is it something that one needs to change to?

[@dwalster7538]

? The base model comes with the blade battery.

[@t.d.5804]

All Y SR from Berlin do have the BYD blade, the SR was introduced in 4.2023, all have the BYD from the start. Only China made SR still have the CATL.

[@zachlafond2652]

The model 3 rwd lfp in the US come with CATL.

[@lhrflyguy]

Video about Tesla starts at 5:00

[@lastnightsfavorite]

The BYD has 2kWh less capacity, looses surprisingly a lot more range/capacity over time, but charges measurably faster. Also it's less powerful, about 15kW compared to the CATL, so the German car is slower although it comes with the performance motor.

[@林振华-t4v]

Could be the battery are similar in term of longivity. It was the BYD LFP was charging more aggressivly result in quicker degration. And the newer CATL equiped model peggy back a bit. My 2022 Fermont built Model 3 is claim 57.x kwh. But never get the press range of 400km. It can get a bit over 300 in a good day. But usually doing between 230 to 270.

[@mikkelsrensen1956]

Where did you find that it degrades faster? I thought LFP was much better suited to handle degradation?

[@lastnightsfavorite]

@@mikkelsrensen1956 docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LmyllKqJWBr8J_LKVIAimsOigT4-hpfi5NeFJR8qZhQ/edit?usp=drivesdk

[@Twin.motors]

The 0-100 time hasn't changed officially, maybe that 15kw difference is offset by lighter battery pack?

[@lastnightsfavorite]

@@Twin.motors The MIC Model Y RWD is slightly overperforming. The German car is also a little heavier, but it just gets 5.9 as advertised. Did a dragy run an can bus statistics on both

[@quiz4r]

does model y LR from gigaberlin has byd battery aswell ?

[@ricardoleao5624]

Only 240km for a full battery? I think its lower capacity than before. I'm undecided between a long range or standard range, I think I'll go for the long range 🙄

[@aemdenouden]

Is there a way to check whether a Model Y has the BYD or CATL battery? F.i. by VIN or somewhere in the service menu?

[@林振华-t4v]

I assume you need to ask tesla via vin. The should have the out of factory Oem info for the car in the system. But I dont think it will fly if you want to chose one battery brand over the other when picking up the new car. 😂

[@asaha7547]

Bjorn showed in the video if it is RWD and VIN starts with XP7 then it's BYD

[@lbtobl83]

Charging speed 22 minutes sounds impressive but 46 kWh is good for only 200 km Autobahn. Model S 75D from 5 years ago needs about 6 minutes more for 46 kWh (12-76 %) and consumes the same amount of energy driving 130 km/h. Nevertheless topping up over 80 % on old S and X makes no sense as it takes „forever“. On the other hand LFP batteries will not age well if supercharged often over 80 %, the batteries will roast themselves.

[@declanosullivan8749]

Yeah exactly, charge speed is great and all, but the battery is tiny for a car of this size, 54kWh useable would suit a Clio not a family car like this

[@Tschacki_Quacki]

@@declanosullivan8749 It's more than enough for a lot of people. That's why they sell it.

[@tls3jean590]

Super vidéo, A quand l’essai Bjorn de la modèle 3 highland…😢

[@geirmyrvagnes8718]

Look at the last letter before the final numbers start. That is the factory letter. B for Berlin. No point in memorizing XP7WHATEVER.

[@geirmyrvagnes8718]

...and then you say to the people you are with. "Ah, the XP7-series, those are actually made in Berlin..."

[@Joe-ud2hb]

What happened to the Sun? Guess it went down 😭😭

[@SightsToKeepInSight]

XP7 is not Windows XP 7.... it's XPeng 7 LOL

[@Jensen1307]

Finally a Tesla again 🙌🏻

[@javiervazquez7141]

This battery with this charging speed and the good degradation of Lifepo batteries can convince any ICE lover.... Game changer

[@javiervazquez7141]

​@@BBingo-v5i if I'm not mistaken 170 kW of charging for a 60 kWh battery it's almost 3C charging rate. Is there in the market an NMC battery with more than 3C charging rate? Apart from being cheaper and not having cobalt ofc

[@desmoheli]

Even more disappointing that Model 3 Highland did not receive any battery update. Imagine they put a 80kWh LFP BYD battery into the M3,......

[@Lucas-wp2ph]

Byd are the leaders😊

[@qb4hkm]

It would not fit probably. LFP is not so energy dense. Even CATL does it well above 80% charge. Just got TMY LR, how I would love to have 82kwh LFP instead of NCMA...

[@zachlafond2652]

For what i've read there is no more room in the car to fit anymore battery///as in the current model 3 LFP its crammed full of LFP cells. So you need more energy dense battery cell or a bigger car.

[@4literv6]

@@zachlafond2652 not correct see the Sandy munro visit to our next energy with a torn down model 3 lfp pack on full display. They could fit at least 25% more cells into it and with lmfp or m3p chemistry? Could easily match the nmc pack's but it would be heavier. Tesla also has tested internally 100kwh nmc pack's on the model 3&Y since at least 2020 when it was leaked by one of the famous tesla hackers, who somehow leaks many new features and trims well before tesla publicly says anything about them.

[@nickolassnielsen]

​@@zachlafond2652byd seal have a 82 kWh lfp battery?

[@sender5804]

so how does charging compare to old model

[@bjornnyland]

Is that a question

[@srensrensen3112]

Hej Bjørn Hvilken model syntes du er bedst, den med cobolt eller den med BYD BLADE batteriet ?? Tak for en god kanal 🏎️💨

[@kwaazaar]

Where is your review of the model 3 highland? We need a real down-to-earth review with someone who actually experiences the car and doesn't praise it into heaven, like all others: this means you! Oh, and the Seal would be nice as well!

[@bjornnyland]

Still waiting for delivery.

[@deacbeugene]

Good car unless you’ll have a rock scratching your battery bottom. And Tesla will say “no warranty, physical damage 😊”. Or there will be any moderate accident and car will be written off. So next insurance fee will be like a new car. All this stuff is cool unless you’ll really buy one for yourself for real life.

[@mikak-h4543]

Cheap fast charging, but also cheap diesel and gasoline compared to Finland.

[@EnhanceAuto-S3XY_Gadgets]

Hey Bjorn. We saw your video a bit late, but here is where the OBD port is for this model Y: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nXvEl4uprJKGldUsi=d7cuUYUbHl6o5qLA Let us know if they have changed it again and we will find it for you 😊

[@bjornnyland]

Aha, thank you :)

[@kalvaxus]

A big giant red "X" on a charger as a brand name doesn't seem like good UX :P

[@bjornnyland]

Timestamp?

[@TheDanishSpaceman]

@@bjornnyland He means the Uno-X branding which is a big white on red "X"

[@Twin.motors]

How is it 2000kg? I weighed my rwd lfp myself and it weighs 1860kg

[@paescu_2k350]

When can you test new Model X?

[@bjornnyland]

Next year

[@SustainableGal]

4:08 Thats roughly £0.26/kWh on those hyper hyper chargers, You cant even slow charge at home in the UK for less than £0.30/kWh. Our rapid chargers are between £0.68/kWh - £1.05/kWh in the UK (9 NOK - 14.18 NOK) or (€0.78 - €1.21) UK corporations are so greedy!

[@Tom-bp6no]

You need to get a HGV license Bjorn..

[@bjornnyland]

Why?

[@Tom-bp6no]

@@bjornnyland 1000km challenge and overnight in that Volvo beast

[@tridrean]

❤❤❤

[@elektrischabfahren]

Is Not Berlin....its Giga Grünheide!🤷‍♂️☝

[@dutchbavarian]

Great test, seems it is good to be a poor man 😉. Also you can always charge the LFP to 100% without degradation, so maybe the poormans Tesla is a better long term buy?

[@svein03]

Interesting. I have BYD Atto3 in Thailand. Blade battery is really good in hot weather. I learn a lot from you. Just one thing: Can you please try to articulate. Because sometimes its not easy to hear what you say. Du må ikke snakke så fort. Prøv å snakke tydelig. Jeg har jobbet som lærer i 40 år og vet hvor viktig det er for å få fram et budskap. Jeg snakker flytende engelsk så språkkunnskapene min er gode. :)

[@volkero3132]

4:01 what the heck are kWt?

[@bjornnyland]

t = hour

[@volkero3132]

@@bjornnyland Ok, its called Kilowattime in norway. I thought every language with the latin alphabet use the symbol kWh. From wikipedia: The Swedish Language Council equates the abbreviations "kWh" and " kWt",[1] but the common term for kilowatt hour is kWh ("kilo": prefix for 1000, W: symbol for power in Watt, h: from Latin:hora, "hour"). kWh is recommended for use in several technical references.

[@rcarhouse]

👍👍👍👍

[@olegvihodets8680]

Poor mans tesla 😂

[@Mobimanie]

I find it unfair that you are laughing at gas stations to get some free air… I think you should get a snickers and a coffee there to compensate!

[@bjornnyland]

What about free toilets?

[@Mobimanie]

Oh no, you need to pay 70ct and consume a Snickers for 50ct 😂🎉

[@andrehli]

18:00 - am I seeing right? Ambient interior light in the dash???

[@bjornnyland]

Reflection from Ionity chargers.

[@tyronemcgillick]

Looking forward to the 1000km video

[@tridruankham2657]

❤❤❤

[@Overdiedaf]

the limitation of 140 km/h is because the autopilot (with automatic steering) is on. If you steer yourself, the car is limited to 150 kmh and if the autopilot is completely turned off, you can reach 200 kmh +

[@marianiancu2394]

Bjorn, you can start the heat while charging on AC but only from the app. Good luck!

[@Vrabetzz]

Or by setting a departure time (at least with the facelift e-Golf)

[@walnuts84]

Great marketing for Elbilmek for all disappointed tesla owners seeing the VW after they after walk out with a nice bill 😀😀

[@robertgidaa2705]

This has the same consumption and battery size as my ID.3.

[@deserialized]

Is this similar technology/hardware as the battery in BYD Seal (but smaller)? If yes, I assume it might be possible for BYD to tweak the charging curve the BYD Seal through software?

[@ricosun]

I got the 80kwh Seal, max charge is only 150kw. And you have wait 2 mins before it goes up to 150kw... 2min feels like an eternity, pitty because thats the only complaint i have for the car. The range is pretty good.

[@deserialized]

@@ricosun I know, but it seems, in hardware, it should be possible to do faster. It has 800v architecture. And probably same as Tesla - who does it faster.

[@t.d.5804]

Might be the same cells in BYDs own cars, but they made everything else cheaper, less cooling, less power electronics...etc. Thats important for fast charging.

[@raphi25895]

​​@@deserializedI doubt the 800V, the 82,56kWh Pack in the BYD Seal has 172 Cells which is a nominal Voltage of around 550V.

[@deserialized]

@@raphi25895 you can Google it. Maybe charging station/handshake limitation

[@ronald4life1]

The E-Golf really is a great little car, it's a shame they weren't more popular. They drive very well also.

[@roodick85]

It was my first and favorite EV perfect range and great size too. I wish they kept it up

[@Tom-bp6no]

The analog dials still look good. The GTE was a nice car also, though very small battery.

[@TecnamTwin]

​@@roodick85Perfect range?? Could use double that to make it more useful. And it's completely unusable for long distance travel.

[@ekocumben]

Why do you get 53kw in charge? Isnt it 60kw Byd battery? You should get 58-59kw

[@c0liinify]

Would love to see a review of the BYD Seal

[@VictorBeverloo]

Hi Björn. Did you notice that the windscreen wipers always do two wipes, even in the interval? My Tesla Y (also Berlin) also does this. I find it strange. Next to that the wipers often go too fast or unnecessarily. Do you have the same experience?

[@davidglieder8862]

Autowipers in Teslas have been really bad ever since they decided to remove the rain sensor (2017). Unfortunately don’t expect this to improve with software because it’s been like that since more than 6 years

[@colla555]

Is this LFP then? My knowledge till now was: BYD cars = LFP blade battery. BYD cars have sub-par charging speeds and are sensible to lower outside temperatures. Does this apply here as well?

[@Tschacki_Quacki]

This is true for all LFP packs.

[@colla555]

Ok thank you. So the Model Y then also uses LFP? Or does BYD offer Blades batteries in IMC as well? @@Tschacki_Quacki

[@Tschacki_Quacki]

@@colla555 The Standard Range Model Y always uses LFP (except some US versions). BYD does offer different batteries too and I'd guess that they also have the blade packaging for other chemistries but that's speculation from me.

[@yj.c.]

It is BYD Blade LFP, but the Model Y from Berlin has better BMS and thermal management, which enables them to charge significantly faster than other BYDs with the same battery.

[@BluffMunkey]

To be fair to The Sun (which is one of the worst shitty rags in the UK), public charging in the UK is terrible. As far as I can see we have around 50k public chargers here vs 22k in Norway, but with 15 times the population. A LOT of them are broken too, a lot of the time.

[@zrogon]

The connector you're looking for is in the driver footwell on the right hand side (the left side of the middle tunnel). The one on the right hand side passenger side is not powered, you need a separate power plug for that one. PS. Nevermind, you already got this comment earlier. :)

[@fuelbasti]

So, Elon need to buy BYD to rename it into Tesla then?

[@rogeriogomesosorio4755]

Hello, Bjorn. What’s that cable you are using to split OBD and commander?

[@stefangunnarsson2750]

How do i know of my model y 2023 has catl or byd?

[@torgeirarny6642]

Sup with the wipers? xD

[@BeetleBeetleY]

Hey Bjorn, in your new home area, how much do you pay per kWh?

[@joel8628]

Finally!! Looking forward to geilo test and some proper winter testing

[@yanndooms8892]

What battery type does the model 3 highland from china get?

[@t.d.5804]

Still the CATL LFP. Also all MiC Y SR have the CATL.