Mercedes EQS 580 4Matic 1000 km challenge

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Bjørn Nyland

Bjørn Nyland

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@slartybartfarst9737
@slartybartfarst9737 3 жыл бұрын
Is it just me? I base pretty much all my judgements on the progress of EVs on DIN Bjorn and have done since 2015. I appreciate your consistent approach Bjorn just no BS, also judgements on the functions and features so relevant to real world use.
@roodick85
@roodick85 3 жыл бұрын
It's not just you. Dude keeps it real and puts every car in a real world situation with no bias,truly an expert
@taylor92493
@taylor92493 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah Bjorn probably spends like a day at most in one location. Is an EV nomad.
@francescoboselli6033
@francescoboselli6033 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed. I think for example at Teslas: many are distracted by features and games that Elon Musk put on the cars (think for example at the fake fart noise). Yeah they are funny, but a fart noise wouldn't help me increase the range. Instead Bjørn has always underlined they defects: for example the absence of a software update which add a traction mode deviated to snow, which is more useful than fart and Netflix for sure, exepecialy in a climate like the Norwegian one
@ChristophLeitl
@ChristophLeitl 3 жыл бұрын
@Slartybartfarst Yes, that's why I bought a Tesla Model 3. Super happy with it.
@slartybartfarst9737
@slartybartfarst9737 3 жыл бұрын
@@ChristophLeitl Congratulations I was testing the Performance 3 at the weekend its noticeably better built than my 2015 Model S P85 its one hell of a car. My P85 has done 125,000 uk miles over 7 years, the performance, economics, service and overall experience have been a total surprise to me, never going back to ICE probably only ever going Tesla welcome to the future.
@gizmoffm
@gizmoffm 3 жыл бұрын
Top 10 words and phrases on this channel: - Yo wazzup - ABC - Sheeeeet - Nokian Hakerbridde (or something) - Talk to you later - Circle-K - Fossils! - Stormberg - Kempower - Marcus Bil Feel free to extend Hello Bjorn
@TheFreezwater
@TheFreezwater 3 жыл бұрын
Spekeröd
@gassie007
@gassie007 3 жыл бұрын
‘Like a boss’
@tobias..6688
@tobias..6688 3 жыл бұрын
Type 3C Discharge
@c-fb
@c-fb 3 жыл бұрын
Not today son!
@TheFreezwater
@TheFreezwater 3 жыл бұрын
Also “ooohhh! Now we are cooking!” and “kaput”
@AOTanoos22
@AOTanoos22 3 жыл бұрын
The Hyperscreen is actually standard for the EQS 580. Its only optional for the rear wheel drive model EQS 450 and costs ~8 000€ including 19%VAT in Germany.
@lpdude2005
@lpdude2005 3 жыл бұрын
Large screen is included on all models in Norway. 450 costs 92000 Euro. The only addition you can choose is the AMG interior for 1600 Euro and 2 headsets for the rear seat for 210 Euro. You can also choose an upgrade where AMG is included + the following to about 15000 Euro Edition 1: AMG Line exterior 21 "AMG Alloy wheels, alloy wheels Decorative elements - walnut ship floor Panoramasoltak Multi-contour seats in front obsidian black metallic Designer belt buckles at the back and front Seat cover - nappa leather - gray / blue (reflex) Comfort seats Floor mats for special model - 580 costs with everything including also AMG 115 000 Euro.
@JohnDoe-vx3z
@JohnDoe-vx3z 3 жыл бұрын
Still freaking expensive
@sk.43821
@sk.43821 3 жыл бұрын
@@JohnDoe-vx3z We are all speaking of wasting resources. Good that not too many people can afford that car.
@lpdude2005
@lpdude2005 3 жыл бұрын
@@Kauppamopo x 10
@lpdude2005
@lpdude2005 3 жыл бұрын
In Germany - 450 cost Euro 97000 Euros. In Norway it cost 92000 and thats includes + version and 4 matic. We dont have Vat on electric cars.
@MrKroolboy
@MrKroolboy 3 жыл бұрын
Mercedes EQS 450+ will be even better, due to higher efficacy. Please test it with the amg aero package and 19“ aero wheels. Thank you for this great test 😊 👏⚡️
@philipptielmann
@philipptielmann 3 жыл бұрын
yes that would be great. of course ideally also on summer tires in summer. then 1 charging stop should be sufficient for 1000km. under good conditions 170Wh/km are achievable at 120km/h
@OenkePoenke
@OenkePoenke 3 жыл бұрын
Efficiency difference is quite BIG between 450+ in it's most efficient trim and the 580. WLTP range of 450 is upto 768 km, while 580+ is 671 km and the config you've been driving (if I got it correctly chosen) is 654 km "only". That's 114 km difference in WLTP range or a gigantic 17% more range for the most efficient 450+. A 1.000 km challenge in summer conditions would make a BIG difference when driving the 450+. The 450+ in the same config (wheels & stuff) as your test car would have 720 km WLTP range btw. I'm sure you know all that, so this is mostly for the other watchers :-) Still very exciting to the the EQS in real street action and an interesting test as always! And achieving a time unter 10 hours in winter and calling it "slow", well that's funny ;-D Today's EVs realy have evolved! Thumbs up and many thanks for the test, Bjørn!
@Raptorel
@Raptorel 3 жыл бұрын
Do you have any data on the EQE? Thanks!
@dragosmihai3489
@dragosmihai3489 3 жыл бұрын
The 450 would probably be more efficient, but I don't think the tires and temperature would make such a huge difference. Those would only impact aero drag and tire energy losses. If those are predominant, it would mean the powertrain is super efficient and DC loads are super low, which dunno, are they? The car feels well rounded, and they've done a great job to charge fast, but the power consumption is staggering.
@OenkePoenke
@OenkePoenke 3 жыл бұрын
@@Raptorel You can find the EQE on Mercedes-Benz dot DE already, with some data: Upto 660 km WLTP, upto 215 kW, charge time 32 minutes 10%..80%. The battery will be the same as in the lowes trim EQS, the 350, which can already be ordered in Germany. 90.6 kWh net capacity. You can find more data on Wikipedia (english and german version, the english one holding more data). The EQS 350 has officially (upto) 638 km of range with that battery, so the EQE will be even more efficient (as it's less wide, and less heavy, which counts in WLTP's city sections). Downers are, the EQE's boot is 430 litres only (see the vido I mention below) and will have a classic compartmend lid rather than the EQS' hatch door. So classic sedan style and a rather small boot for such a big car. Reason according to a german youtube video I saw is, the door would have taken roof space, which would have limited the passengers' head romm. As the passenger seats are as far in the back as possible to enable max knee and feet clearence. That might turn out to be too much of a compromise to some. We'll see. I've watched some german EQE videos when it was revealed in static reviews in september. Looked them up, see e.g. Auto Bild's video from 5th september.
@hrrrrr2084
@hrrrrr2084 3 жыл бұрын
WLTP range of EQS 450 is 784 km!! NOT 768, it depends on standard features in some countries.
@OenkePoenke
@OenkePoenke 3 жыл бұрын
@@hrrrrr2084 yepp, sorry, saw that a bit later aswell. My 768 km figure is the standard WLTP range of the 450+ in the german configurator. Taking that as the base and adding AMG exterior plus the 19" AMG aero wheels finally leads to the 784 km range.
@thomasalbrecht5914
@thomasalbrecht5914 3 жыл бұрын
I suppose it’s a press car. I’ve been in car PR myself and I can only shake my head at the fossil policy of full spec Christmas tree press cars when it comes to EV models. It’s obvious that for EV tests range is paramount. I would at least have one 19“ wheel car in the press fleet, and when a certain Björn Nyland calls up that’s the car he would get. Beating Teslas should be the minimum for an S class EV novelty.
@Nelson-Man
@Nelson-Man 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Imagine the poor engineers who perfected every detail of this cars aerodynamics including the rims and tires. Seeing those SUV wheels they probably facepalmed so hard their faces are flat now.
@BilldalSWE
@BilldalSWE 3 жыл бұрын
It's a long way ahead of the Tesla in tems of comfort and quality which is the most important thing in an "S-class" . I mean, it's not like people ever faulted the regular ICE S-class for being less fuel efficient and slower than other cars... But yeah, the fact that the 450+ with 19" likely beats it in range as well is a big plus.
@ΘάνατοςΧορτοφάγος
@ΘάνατοςΧορτοφάγος 3 жыл бұрын
I"m starting to fall in love with MB again... 360 km on the highway...my blatter would have made me stop at least 2 or 3 times already 😁 A C class station EQ would be awesome. Although the EQB is nice too
@zeedustrakok
@zeedustrakok 3 жыл бұрын
Not really considering a Mercedes’ EV. I do like the EQS and EQE, but even the EQE is just out of budget. The other cars have a bad range and I really don’t want an SUV that’s less efficient on a car with already limited range.
@DG-uv3zw
@DG-uv3zw 3 жыл бұрын
360km at 120 is at most 3h... You should check the prostate :D
@Holozon
@Holozon 3 жыл бұрын
@@DG-uv3zw i think he is an elder guy :) i hate travelling with my father for this exact reason
@intereztedcom5166
@intereztedcom5166 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Bjørn - Another great video from you! Greetings from Denmark :) Mercedes range calculator for EQS lists 580-model range as: 410km (90% 120kmh /10% 90kmh / 0 deg c / Climate control on) 480km (90% 120kmh /10% 90kmh / 0 deg c / Climate control off) I noticed that you had temp around 22-23 degrees, so their own range calculator seems to be quite close. Max range on the calculator: 580-model : 713km (100% 90kmh / 30 deg c / Climate control off) 450-model : 780km (100% 90kmh / 30 deg c / Climate control off) Would be interesting to see how well the 450+ model performs - At least im Interezted ;) Looking forward to many more videos from you!
@Wenerrix
@Wenerrix 3 жыл бұрын
7:29 exactly how I express my emotion whenever I look at my Toyota Prius
@thomashierzberger6945
@thomashierzberger6945 3 жыл бұрын
Please do this also with EQS RWD and 19'. Nice anyway!
@fabriziom
@fabriziom 3 жыл бұрын
Wow - impressive. Fastest of them under these cold conditions. And I bet you felt like you drove 300kms only with such level of comfort!
@CR-di1lg
@CR-di1lg 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly, I really think comfort is overlooked as a metric.
@dragospahontu
@dragospahontu 2 жыл бұрын
@@CR-di1lg Citroen is still more comfortable
@zyxlsy
@zyxlsy 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate how uniform the headlight rays are.
@randomdriver
@randomdriver 3 жыл бұрын
Julmust and påskmust is really good soda. I like it
@roybm3124
@roybm3124 3 жыл бұрын
Star wars pod racer sound 🤣😂 @10:51
@anibalasubramaniam4153
@anibalasubramaniam4153 3 жыл бұрын
I bought and returned a Polestar 2 due to the numerous software issues it had. I'm waiting for my EQS to arrive and thanks for your review, it's made me even more excited for mine. I got the 450+ but it's kitted out with almost everything, including hyperscreen and all kinds of comfort stuff. 🤩👍
@kiddcisco
@kiddcisco 3 жыл бұрын
Darn, did not want to hear this. Mind sharing what some of your software issues were and how long ago this was. The Polestar 2 and GV60 are my backups to the Ioniq 5 I am hoping to own quite shortly as long as the demo drive is what I expect. Congrats on the EQS 450+ I am sure you will enjoy it!
@anibalasubramaniam4153
@anibalasubramaniam4153 3 жыл бұрын
@@kiddcisco sorry to be the bearer of bad news! I only returned it about 3-4 weeks ago. I got a fully loaded model with performance pack, leather and everything. I went through 2 updates, P2127 and then 1.7. Each time the update left me with no GPS, LTE and I was left driving a dumb car for weeks at a time. Polestar also delayed CarPlay, which might have helped with the connectivity issues. They also reneged on the remote parking assists on the P2 despite being advertised earlier on. I also experienced issues with Google Assistant randomly crapping out and the phone app rarely working - if ever. In addition to software issues, my brakes also used to get stuck on the rotors after driving/parking in the rain (and I've seen others complain on the FB group about this too) and cause a thumping noise when driving until braking in neutral "wipes" whatever residue away. Overall it was a frustrating ownership experience for me and thankfully my dealer wanted to make things right and took my car back instead of making me suffer through it, for which I'm glad 🙏 I can't wait for my EQS to get here, I do think this is the right car for me.
@vasilispoyiatzeas9137
@vasilispoyiatzeas9137 3 жыл бұрын
Bjorn the hyperscreen is optional ONLY for the 450+ model but for the 580 it comes as standard.
@CR-di1lg
@CR-di1lg 3 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of a Ted Talk where the argument was if the trip between Paris and London was made more comfortable with free champagne etc people would have prefered it to take even longer instead of spending 5 billion to make it shorter. Like I would rather have a longer travel time in EQS then shorter travel time in the Kia.
@jobicek
@jobicek 3 жыл бұрын
It's not a trivial question. I would prefer to spend 7 hours in a luxurious train to spending 5 hours in a luxurious car. If I'm driving, I have to drive. It's five productive hours lost. Driving faster means less time wasted. Spending more time in a better car? I guess it depends on how much I value my time vs. how much more tired/ worn out I would be from the worse car. It's nice when a train is fast, but it's even nicer when it's on time. When it's comfortable. When you don't have to change trains multiple times (being on time helps with connections, but it's still nice when you can sleep through a journey or at least you don't have to lug your baggage around again and again). Speed helps in competition with aircraft. But it's not the most important factor in making the experience pleasant. Speed is, however, an important factor in how often you can make that trip (the other is price). It makes the world smaller.
@XTreMe2k6
@XTreMe2k6 3 жыл бұрын
21:08 hey uncle bjorn, BMW has this feature even in the i3 :D
@ev-joerg6114
@ev-joerg6114 3 жыл бұрын
The low temperatures prevented that the EQS has won this challenge. But no other car is better compared to this temperatures. Good video👍
@shockwave1xD
@shockwave1xD 3 жыл бұрын
Are you sure? I feel like the consumption at this speed is really bad for the amount of aero optimization this car has, despite the temperatures. The slow charging M3 LR had about 30% lower consumption at around the same temperatures. I was expecting max. 25kWh/100km tbh.
@ev-joerg6114
@ev-joerg6114 3 жыл бұрын
@@shockwave1xD My wife drives an Ioniq 28, I drive an EV6. Because the battery capacity is lower at temperatures about 0 degrees celsius, both cars have in winter a lower range and a higher power consumption of about 30%. I think, the same range difference you can adapt to the EQS when driving in winter.
@shockwave1xD
@shockwave1xD 3 жыл бұрын
@@ev-joerg6114 I've seen EQS do 15-17kWh in summer on the Autobahn. I'm also aware that range in winter is lower, but not THAT much lower
@Klettermeister
@Klettermeister 3 жыл бұрын
Not sure if I am too impressed. Ok, it beats pretty much everything - expect for the Tesla Model 3 LR in the 1000 km test - but wouldn't you expect this from a newly developed cat at this price?
@kiddcisco
@kiddcisco 3 жыл бұрын
Not necessarily, on another note it's comfort level is light years ahead of a Model 3
@billymania11
@billymania11 3 жыл бұрын
@@kiddcisco I think the price is a little different as well.
@kiddcisco
@kiddcisco 3 жыл бұрын
@@billymania11 sure, all relative to some.
@valarauco
@valarauco 3 жыл бұрын
9h is "Lightspeed limit" for 1000k challenge. Near that, cars start to struggle. To go beyond you need a warp engine... and a bigger bladder.
@erathol
@erathol 3 жыл бұрын
Now we’re cooking!
@nicholasmetreu4668
@nicholasmetreu4668 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Bjorn, I almost watched all of your videos man, you are legend. I am dying to see your EQS 450+ 1000km challenge. much love from Australia
@tomoldigs1353
@tomoldigs1353 3 жыл бұрын
HUB Brightness is adjustable, it’s to bright, if you can see the “square box” during the night. Noise insulation must be good, with a 5 chamber air suspension, and is not comparable to the Polestar 2, being at least 4 times more expensive. I have driven both EQS versions and was disappointed about the build quality, a lot of cheap plastic doesn’t matches the price, and the electric supported doors and door handles are useless. Ride comfort, beside the big battery, are the main advantages of the EQS.
@bjornnyland
@bjornnyland 3 жыл бұрын
I already adjusted it down.
@Malibukenn
@Malibukenn 2 жыл бұрын
If I’m not mistaken, the “Hyper Screen” is not an “option” in the U.S. The hyper screen is ONLY available in the 580. If I’m incorrect can someone please correct me. Thanks.
@KamiraXIV
@KamiraXIV 3 жыл бұрын
7:56 - "It's fried rice, you plick!"
@aliendroneservices6621
@aliendroneservices6621 3 жыл бұрын
0:04 *Marcusbil* *AS* Car dealer in Billingstad, Norway. Billingstadsletta 83, 1396 Billingstad, Norway
@SirHackaL0t.
@SirHackaL0t. 3 жыл бұрын
That QR code on the door pillar shows the rescue document but it’s missing lots of text on my iPad. Does anyone else have issues with it? If so then Bjorn should let Mercedes know that there’s an issue.
@Infinion
@Infinion 3 жыл бұрын
Does the light strip change color? Blue would be a bad choice for night time. Red would not affect the eye's vision at night.
@SufferJoker
@SufferJoker 3 жыл бұрын
What about yellow?
@hrrrrr2084
@hrrrrr2084 3 жыл бұрын
Light strip takaes any colour you want in the parameter menu
@JoeyDee86
@JoeyDee86 3 жыл бұрын
These numbers will be much better when it’s not cold, but it’s still striking to me that a Tesla with a battery that’s at least 30kwh smaller still wins. Amazing progress though.
@JoeyDee86
@JoeyDee86 3 жыл бұрын
@@bernhardleopold6702 can’t wait for him to get his hands on the plaid…
@User.Joshua
@User.Joshua 3 жыл бұрын
The Model 3 is significantly smaller though, so this isn't that surprising.
@Bismarck666
@Bismarck666 3 жыл бұрын
Did I hear something about Dacia Spring? Will you test it soon?
@batliff
@batliff 3 жыл бұрын
Those headlights are amazing.
@achim.t
@achim.t 3 жыл бұрын
The voice control is hilarious! :-D
@Yachtzeee
@Yachtzeee 3 жыл бұрын
How are the headlight’s compared to Model 3 Perfo? Schmutzy?
@Dee-Ell
@Dee-Ell 3 жыл бұрын
I find it interesting that most reviewers avoid to mention '[X] beats Tesla". They won't hesitate to say "[X] beats [Polestar or any other non-Tesla]". When they want to include Telsa, they'll say "[X] beats everything". (For this video, I have the noise level comparison in mind.)
@jkev1425
@jkev1425 3 жыл бұрын
My conclusion: Mercedes builds luxury fantastic cars from driving and comport perspective. Software and EV Drivetrain is just standard and below expectations of such a great car.
@Timson1973
@Timson1973 3 жыл бұрын
I too got disappointed by the UI/UX of the 'big' brands. Audi, VW, BMW. None of them are getting it 'right' in my opinion. The interface seems dated and doesn't feel very intuitive. Those cars would be better of just using Android Auto.
@jkev1425
@jkev1425 3 жыл бұрын
@@Timson1973 yeah - "just" using car play or Android auto would make it better. Andbhow much would the spend to do so? 0.00001% of the cost compared to develop such old UI/UX they nowadays deploy. Polestar makes it right! Mercedes Isclike Nokia, they always believed that they have a great product for the future.
@c-fb
@c-fb 3 жыл бұрын
That ”not today son” cracks me up every time!🤣
@markot4627
@markot4627 3 жыл бұрын
How about the influence of the temperature and weather. It seems not fair to compare a car that was driven in +20C to a car driven in -3C.
@davidkendall2272
@davidkendall2272 3 жыл бұрын
I love to see Bjorn's take on new EVs, as I am comfortable that he provides unbiased analysis with real life experiences. I really love his take on food during his episodes. Always entertaining.
@nakfan
@nakfan 3 жыл бұрын
Same here 😀 Some time ago he cut it out because someone complained - but we (the people) demanded it back 😅
@nils2868
@nils2868 2 жыл бұрын
It’ll precondition the battery if the car is planing the charging itself afaik Edit: It also seems to do it if you select a charger as your destination in the latest software version
@frankblok1743
@frankblok1743 2 жыл бұрын
This is very important information. MB themself don’t say anything about preheating the battery in their guides. Very strange. So can you confirm this is really true, and which update are we talking about?
@nils2868
@nils2868 2 жыл бұрын
@@frankblok1743 I’ve seen it on the KZbin channel car maniac with 250k subs and I don’t know the specific version
@frankblok1743
@frankblok1743 2 жыл бұрын
See todays video of Bjorn Nyland in the EQE. It is confirmed there.
@JuanGonzales-or6pu
@JuanGonzales-or6pu 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Great challenge the 1000Km I noticed something important missing on your list: The Lucid Air. Can we have the Treat...! From Specs, Lucid should top your list!!
@dragospahontu
@dragospahontu 2 жыл бұрын
That car is amazing
@RobertHellberg
@RobertHellberg 3 жыл бұрын
You have to test the 450 longrange version for 1000km and range test
@Das-Radio
@Das-Radio 3 жыл бұрын
Mercedes is the benchmark
@praero551
@praero551 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, the MecerdesBenz mark, deutz mark, not Euro;) Nice car, however expensive, and not leading tech, just a HUGE battery. It will do fine, customers will be happy and willing to pay for the good brand, but leading anything will be a stretch. If they added a battery trailer as option, it could go even further, setting new MercedesBenz mark
@swecreations
@swecreations 3 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this, just really want you to do the 450+ with 19 inch tires as well as that will likely be much better.
@peevee605
@peevee605 3 жыл бұрын
I enjoy all your videos, bro.
@baitish1
@baitish1 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Björn.. You're the shiiieeettt. The best reviewer on the tube. Respect and hello from Israel
@Lucas-nh2mk
@Lucas-nh2mk 10 ай бұрын
Prices?
@juliusbs
@juliusbs 3 жыл бұрын
Dear Björn, thank you so much for this eagerly awaited test! Your continuity, motivation an professonial approach set the standard for all "auto/EV journalists". Although I am sadly disappointed by the EQS 580´s real life winter performance, which affects usability in 8 out of 12 months. It might be comfortable, quiet and nice to look at, which was expectable for an electric S-class with its shiny pedigree, immanent superiority claim and huge price tag. But its coolgating = malfunctioning thermal management is unacceptable when paying double the price of the benchmark Tesla MS. Its really sad, after almost 10 years the "best auto engineers in the world" prove themselfs as unable to fulfil such a simple and important task? How ignorant and unworldly of MB. I either am suprised that other users did not complain about this big fail. Such a brandnew expensive alpha-animal car should set a groundbreaking new benchmark, leaving the competition far behind. Not well done, Mercedes, very disappointed. Hope at least a very soon OTA-update will solve this ambarrasing fauxpas. Herzliche Grüße aus Salzburg von Julius!
@zeedustrakok
@zeedustrakok 3 жыл бұрын
That a bit far fetched. Remember a tesla only charges with a few kw on a cold battery. And on the price. When sitting in a Mercedes S or EQS you immediately know where the additional money went. On quality and comfort the cars aren’t comparable. And a few updates will sole the small issues.
@RuffyDotOne
@RuffyDotOne 3 жыл бұрын
I’m missing entertainment apps like Netflix or KZbin!
@stebarg
@stebarg 3 жыл бұрын
26:48 What about the Model S Plaid?
@bjornnyland
@bjornnyland 3 жыл бұрын
Not available in Europe yet. And for the best time, don't use Plaid. Use Long Range which is more efficient.
@StormyDog
@StormyDog 3 жыл бұрын
@@bjornnyland More efficient, much less expensive and still way fast. The LR is the one I'd buy. But I ordered a Model Y LR until my Cybertruck arrives.. Even more room, and I'm cheap. The model Y is still MUCH faster than the 1964 Pontiac GTO "supercar" of my youth.
@kanaljenskanal
@kanaljenskanal 3 жыл бұрын
JULMUST for the win 😂
@nallebrean
@nallebrean 3 жыл бұрын
Julmust och surströmming... 😂
@Wolfraider87
@Wolfraider87 3 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to see the 1000 km challenge for TMY in winter for comparison since it is so close to the EQS
@markusmuller9193
@markusmuller9193 3 жыл бұрын
yes, especially after the recent charging update for the TMY. Should be charging like 10-15% quicker than during Bjørn's test. This should compensate parts of the increased winter consumption.
@FNFleExZ
@FNFleExZ 3 жыл бұрын
Great Car and good Video of course!
@i-dinen-lug
@i-dinen-lug 3 жыл бұрын
does anyone else feel remembered of the old Tesla UIs when looking at the Hyperscreen (most notably that climate control bar)?
@The81ubb
@The81ubb 3 жыл бұрын
race eqs vs model s ?
@pezomarko
@pezomarko 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like you are missing "total time spent charging" column.
@peterlutken
@peterlutken 3 жыл бұрын
The weather forecast view on the map is a toggle switch option on both my previous Mini Countryman PHEV (so I’d expect it to be there on BMW as well) and my current Citroën ë-C4 (so, most likely available in other PSA/Stellantis cars on the same platform)
@hrrrrr2084
@hrrrrr2084 3 жыл бұрын
EQS has the best range of all cars and it's also the first autonomous Level 3 car on the market with Mercedes-Benz S-Class. Congratulations. Mercedes shows again they're ahead of the others and the best of the best.
@NextGHaHaHa
@NextGHaHaHa 3 жыл бұрын
didnt his range test find that its shorter than model s range
@praero551
@praero551 3 жыл бұрын
Monster big 130kwh battery weighing in total 2700+ kg can make most cars have long range:) Well, somehow they do lead again, in weight at least, and also more thirsty than an E-tron, that takes some piping.
@hrrrrr2084
@hrrrrr2084 3 жыл бұрын
@@NextGHaHaHa Mercedes is limousine luxury car, and this version is the least efficient one, tested in freezing winter. Doesn't compare with the long-range version of the tesla tested in summer.
@hrrrrr2084
@hrrrrr2084 3 жыл бұрын
@@praero551 lol Mercedes has a 113 kWh battery, not 130, you fanbois are stupidly wrong. Mercedes is also the most aerodynamic and most luxurious of them all.
@nakfan
@nakfan 3 жыл бұрын
You mentioned it in the video that shorter stints might reduce coldgating and improve the total time (by 2-4 minutes ?) But with such a flat charging curve, couldn't that potentially be even more? Thanks for the test - I really look forward to the other tests with the EQS ---and eventually the tests when you get the EQE in 2022/23 😊
@dorzsonszki
@dorzsonszki 3 жыл бұрын
what is that music Coconuts by gvid....4:21
@dorzsonszki
@dorzsonszki 3 жыл бұрын
can i get the full name of the music?? pls
@andreasfrose9150
@andreasfrose9150 3 жыл бұрын
That was realy slow. The German tester made in summer a consumption with 105km/h from 16,5 kw. But it was the most efficient EQs. So I Think the most efficient EQs in summer will make 9:10.
@dwalster7538
@dwalster7538 3 жыл бұрын
Does it precondition? Considering the semi fast first stop I suspect it doesn’t.
@bjornnyland
@bjornnyland 3 жыл бұрын
Yes and no.
@dwalster7538
@dwalster7538 3 жыл бұрын
@@bjornnyland 🤔
@TheFreezwater
@TheFreezwater 3 жыл бұрын
He means yes for your first question.. so obviously the answer for the second statement is no. So he says “yes and no”
@dwalster7538
@dwalster7538 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheFreezwater Gotcha. However, why is the charging speed not max then?
@shockwave1xD
@shockwave1xD 3 жыл бұрын
Will you attempt this again with the more efficient EQS in spring? Also really curious how Lucid will stack up against EQS. If it matches the efficiency this would be really bad for Mercedes, because the Lucid looks way better.
@mattetjus
@mattetjus 3 жыл бұрын
I seriously doubt that the lucid will be a threat to the Mercedes - the brand is a really strong selling argument, you know what you get. The lucid is a wild card, a newcomer - will they really be able to do better than Tesla on service and build quality?
@jonathanm3635
@jonathanm3635 3 жыл бұрын
I think the eqs "long range" with other tires in Sommer will be a beast considering range
@shockwave1xD
@shockwave1xD 3 жыл бұрын
@@jonathanm3635 definitely. But the huge difference is quote surprising. I was expecting it to be at least on par with M3LR.
@StormyDog
@StormyDog 3 жыл бұрын
@@shockwave1xD And you can buy 2.5 Model 3 LR Teslas for what the Mercedes EQS 580 4Matic costs. Or a small house.
@stennordenmalm1735
@stennordenmalm1735 3 жыл бұрын
The Benz is totally beating Tesla M 3 LR in range
@Alex-bl8uh
@Alex-bl8uh 3 жыл бұрын
Great car, but I am hugely surprised by how big the difference between summer and winter is in range with this vehicle. Model 3 LR is a beast regarding cost effectiveness.
@MAMAMAdatarock
@MAMAMAdatarock 3 жыл бұрын
Test MG Marvel R, please, Bjørn? 😊
@newscoulomb3705
@newscoulomb3705 3 жыл бұрын
27:00 From what I've seen, the single hardest concept for people to wrap their head around is that the driving itself still takes a majority of the time. It's like people in fossil cars think that they just teleport from place to place. No, driving takes time. Even in a slow charging Chevrolet Bolt EV (which takes about 11 hr 45 min to do 1,000 km), more than three quarters of the time is spent driving.
@annampakodimou9197
@annampakodimou9197 2 жыл бұрын
Hello to all!! i just don't get it why the EQS is 1400 price, much more expensive in charging than rest and Bjorn skipped also 1 charging...
@bjornnyland
@bjornnyland 2 жыл бұрын
That price is for the car, not the charging.
@annampakodimou9197
@annampakodimou9197 2 жыл бұрын
@@bjornnyland Ohhh you mean the price for getting the car to test it, or other taxes because is expensive car. Anyway thanks for info!! :)
@lucianminea
@lucianminea 3 жыл бұрын
Not even 400 km, and that car isn't cheap. I drive 1000 km with one full, with my Mazda 6. So good luck with the EV. :)
@headwins
@headwins 3 жыл бұрын
Is the EQS equipped with L3 autopilot? If available, can you test the autopilot? Thanks.
@Ramkumar-cn7cx
@Ramkumar-cn7cx 3 жыл бұрын
No it's not. L3 autonomy on EQS would come in Q2 2022
@Ramkumar-cn7cx
@Ramkumar-cn7cx 3 жыл бұрын
@@bernhardleopold6702 he never asked it to test on 1000km challenge. And moreover it's not about what it's capable of rather of what is allowed legally. It can only do upto 60kph speeds because of legal regulations and only Germany came up with a law and Mercedes wants to do it only legally unlike Tesla.
@praero551
@praero551 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ramkumar-cn7cx Tesla is illegal? Where?
@ZKITPO
@ZKITPO 3 жыл бұрын
@@praero551 Tesla isnt Level 3. Its Level 2.
@markpage3813
@markpage3813 3 жыл бұрын
I noticed that the track artist and sing title are truncated even on a big ass screen. First world problem.
@Bpuad
@Bpuad 3 жыл бұрын
Drove the EQS 450 the other week and it's a really nice car, I loved it. I have a Plaid on order but will also be really interested in the EQE coming to Sweden this spring. Hope you will test that one to... Would be interesting to see you do a range test on the 450 as it suppose to have a ot better range and did amazing in an US test (I think it did ca 670km). I love the details you go into in your tests, with also the charging speed at different %(which I realised is mega important for me and my ID4 is way to slow), the long 1000km challenges which for example showed a problem with the otherwise really good ev6. Can wait for you to also test the new model s plaid or longrange! Great review as alway!
@Bpuad
@Bpuad 3 жыл бұрын
@@rogerstarkey5390 Yeah correct but still can't wait for Björn to test it :). Just got an email from Tesla the other day about deliveries for as you say earliest second half next year.
@fjalics
@fjalics 3 жыл бұрын
It time for the get your hands on a Lucid challenge. 😁
@Genuiini
@Genuiini 3 жыл бұрын
I just had to buy Julmust today. Not bad.
@ericvet8b
@ericvet8b 3 жыл бұрын
Still really good time!!!
@ionut8091
@ionut8091 3 жыл бұрын
2:07 spring
@Valsiphez
@Valsiphez 3 жыл бұрын
10:55 the vivid flux has some transformers 2 vibes
@davidshipp623
@davidshipp623 3 жыл бұрын
As we get closer to the ICE time it becomes clear that charging roads are the only way it could ever beat the ICE. However the limiting factor really is the human one in the end, no one should be driving 9 hours without a break.
@marcelrehmann9901
@marcelrehmann9901 3 жыл бұрын
22.5 degrees is a bit too hot.
@bjornnyland
@bjornnyland 3 жыл бұрын
Not at all compared to other cars at 21°C.
@kf6857
@kf6857 3 жыл бұрын
Good s*it Björn! We got our Model Y last week and it’s so nice to see the EV game moving forward 🙌🏼
@johnnysmile01
@johnnysmile01 3 жыл бұрын
Alien tech UFO coming 👽 shiiiiiiit man can't beat that tech holy crap 😜😬😀😏👌
@gsusmorales
@gsusmorales 3 жыл бұрын
Model 3 LFP 2022 for the win. Imagine a world with only 50 Kw chargers, who will win?
@hrrrrr2084
@hrrrrr2084 3 жыл бұрын
Dacia for the win
@Holozon
@Holozon 3 жыл бұрын
horse carriage probably.😁😁😁
@redfirekla
@redfirekla 3 жыл бұрын
Finally someone that can truly compete with a model S
@raphi25895
@raphi25895 3 жыл бұрын
@@rogerstarkey5390 as far as the performance is concerned, yes. Equipment and range rather no
@antimatter4733
@antimatter4733 3 жыл бұрын
It's in a different category all together. Model S is a fast premium vehicle, this is a luxury vehicle. It's like comparing an BMW M3 to a Rolls-Royce
@leod9463
@leod9463 3 жыл бұрын
@@antimatter4733 more like m3 and 7 series. Eqs very nice car but not RR Level
@antimatter4733
@antimatter4733 3 жыл бұрын
@@leod9463 likely more comfortable, Rolls-Royce is overrated and overpriced. But yeah you can say 7 series
@kuznacbendelejev6924
@kuznacbendelejev6924 3 жыл бұрын
lmao
@matsandersson3176
@matsandersson3176 3 жыл бұрын
Dude! Julmust is da shizznit!
@nowmyway
@nowmyway 3 жыл бұрын
I am looking forward to a Lucid Air test. Impressive Mercedes but i have still Dieselgate in mind.
@bbpleg
@bbpleg 3 жыл бұрын
It’s nice looking for an EV, but an E or S class look much nicer in my opinion. I think the EQS is designed with good aerodynamics as a priority, hence the blobby shape (like Tesla model X and Y). Can’t wait till manufacturers start making estate EVs. Do you have an opinion on why there aren’t any yet?
@BurbonUFA
@BurbonUFA 3 жыл бұрын
@@AndrewSienx why “Partly” EQS? Merc is THE MOST efficient in terms of design out of these three.
@angazbergen
@angazbergen 3 жыл бұрын
Очень дорого! Очень тяжёлая машина. Но, очень классная.
@marcelbeaucamp9330
@marcelbeaucamp9330 3 жыл бұрын
Take the EQS 450 with rwd and more aerodynamic rims - and you can go the 450 km + without a break 😎
@PatrikNordlund
@PatrikNordlund 3 жыл бұрын
Why would you?
@marcelbeaucamp9330
@marcelbeaucamp9330 3 жыл бұрын
@@PatrikNordlund I would not necessarily drive 450 km without a break. It is dangerous - but without charging. Ski trips, traveling under time pressure etc.. Was traveling 280 km one way and back, twice per week for 6 months under time pressure… For me 450 km should be possible under all circumstances at 130 km/h also in Winter. This would require a wltp range of 700 + km at least…
@SamuraiTacos1
@SamuraiTacos1 3 жыл бұрын
the car is a boss
@teamswix
@teamswix 3 жыл бұрын
Bjorn for the win! But I would suggest that u skip all the sodapop drinking..Plain simple water is the best for the health BTW eqs is a monstercar!
@phiiz3r
@phiiz3r 3 жыл бұрын
Does it have the ability to set the LED lighting theme to more of a red hue? as that is the best colour to use for preserving night vision.
@TheSweMusicMan
@TheSweMusicMan 3 жыл бұрын
The ambient lighting ?! Yes, of course. There's 64 colours to chose from. And you can always turn the brightness down if you like.
@lurwas
@lurwas 3 жыл бұрын
Don't diss Julmust, it's holy in Sweden!
@desmondchan6092
@desmondchan6092 3 жыл бұрын
Which Thai-restaurant again?
@lexxro87
@lexxro87 3 жыл бұрын
Its already beaten the Tesla in every way already.
@SirHackaL0t.
@SirHackaL0t. 3 жыл бұрын
How large is that battery? Sheesh! 45% and 50kWh? Yes, it does the distance but the massive battery will cost a lot more to fill up!
@ararakoyori8078
@ararakoyori8078 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, man!! Can you test the Cupra Born, please!! 🙏🏻 The boxes test, measurements and range please, master!! 💯 😉
@tablecraft2426
@tablecraft2426 3 жыл бұрын
I like your German parts!
@ravinagaraj7003
@ravinagaraj7003 3 жыл бұрын
I am not sure why Bjorn is so surprised by how quiet it is inside the EQS. I bet Jonah did not hear the ocean either when he was in the belly of the whale :)
@Hvitserk67
@Hvitserk67 3 жыл бұрын
It is quite interesting that the profile on the EQS is very similar to the Citroën C6 that came on the market 16 years ago. Of course, the cars can not be compared and I must say that Mercedes-Benz has really constructed something special with this car. In a figurative sense, EQS is very similar to how the W126 (S-Class in the period 1979-1991) was in relation to the competitors. Absolutely unique and with an appearance that only Mercedes-Benz had at the time.
@ModPhreak
@ModPhreak 3 жыл бұрын
If I recall correctly Bjørn did do a comparison with a higher speed limit as well some time a go, would be interesting to keep track of projections with 130km/h as well where the ICE cars shine.... he might still have it, I forgot.
@Nelson-Man
@Nelson-Man 3 жыл бұрын
Can anyone offer a good explanation why car manufacturers don't insulate battery packs properly? I have a hard time to believe that Mercedes' engineers haven't come up with this idea. But why shouldn't one do it at a high priced vehicle like this?
@topgunm
@topgunm 3 жыл бұрын
You can't isolate it too much. Charing, hot weather and hard driving (track) heats up the pack and it needs to be cooled down. You need a good cooling and heating circuit for the pack. If it's too cold, divert heat to the pack, if it's too hot, the heat needs to be pulled away from the pack.
@Nelson-Man
@Nelson-Man 3 жыл бұрын
@@topgunm This may be a reason for it but I don't think it's a good one. Because when it gets really hot the air and especially the asphalt, which is right below the battery, can get well above a tolerable battery temperature. Then additional heat flows into the pack by conduction and radiation. At that point you have to use AC to cool down the battery and insulation is helpful again.
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