Black Death - The Ultimate Budget Modern Deck

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DesolatorMagic

DesolatorMagic

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@GoGoGideon
@GoGoGideon 8 жыл бұрын
Now, I don't usually leave comments, but I decided this deck looked fun to play so I got all the cards together. I play it every single Saturday. I just love it, I added a few different things for my play group but thanks a million for posting this idea, I love to play it, and it's just a load of fun. Love what you do
@john005_
@john005_ 4 жыл бұрын
Logan Gaddis how much did it cost
@Archangel_Kali
@Archangel_Kali 5 жыл бұрын
"Behold blessed perfection" - Sheoldred, Whispering One
@Jakerunio
@Jakerunio 8 жыл бұрын
You could use vampire nighthawk in the 3 drop slot instead of arrogant bloodlord.
@noblecowboy1425
@noblecowboy1425 3 жыл бұрын
There is "Walk the Plank" from Ixalan, it is double black and the text reads, "Destroy Target Non-Merfolk Creature"
@deadchannel8965
@deadchannel8965 3 жыл бұрын
we need a updated version of this
@captainnoobface1124
@captainnoobface1124 8 жыл бұрын
You added my favorite removal card in black! Killing wave is so underrated and fucking amazing I love it
@dylanhooper9276
@dylanhooper9276 8 жыл бұрын
Just so you know protection from black means you cant target that permanent with a black spell therefor bileblight will not resolve and effect it's target, and the secondary effect of "with the same name" will not occur as it is an invalid target and the result is your spell not resolving.
@hsolo97
@hsolo97 8 жыл бұрын
quick question why no tragic slip? it would definitly most likely be a -13 because of morbid.
@THENOOBLEGACYTEAM
@THENOOBLEGACYTEAM 4 жыл бұрын
O-obliterator is b-budget?!
@bm_pug
@bm_pug 6 жыл бұрын
"This honestly makes wurmcoil engine look like crap..." Hilarious mate. Truly hilarious.
@robertoneto6984
@robertoneto6984 8 жыл бұрын
phyrexian obliterator budget??
@EarnestCreations
@EarnestCreations 8 жыл бұрын
+Roberto Neto You obviously didn't watch the whole video, did you?
@EarnestCreations
@EarnestCreations 8 жыл бұрын
Roberto Neto jakx2ob exactly. Plus, he presents Geralf's Messenger as an alternative to Phyrexian Obliterator. Be sure to watch the whole video before posting a comment based on incomplete information.
@HoundXXII
@HoundXXII 8 жыл бұрын
+ErnestoCCB I had a standard deck using diregrafs ghoul/captain, grave crawlers, geralfs messengers, and that green rare fat zombie guy up close picture with an axe that gives +1/1
@IndividuumNot
@IndividuumNot 8 жыл бұрын
what are you trying to say :D?
@sodapopbrosky
@sodapopbrosky 6 жыл бұрын
+Roberto Neto obliterator is 17 dollars now 2 years later. you can finally afford it!
@YodielandInhabitant710
@YodielandInhabitant710 8 жыл бұрын
No way Phyrexian Obliberator is the most powerful black card ever printed. Just look at necropotence, tendrils of agony, yawgmoth's will and griselbrand. It's very powerful, but to say it's the most powerful card would just be kinda dumb.
@DesolatorMagic
@DesolatorMagic 8 жыл бұрын
I said creature. And griselbrand is pathetic compared to Obliterator.
@YodielandInhabitant710
@YodielandInhabitant710 8 жыл бұрын
"This is quite possibly the most powerful black card ever printed." Straight from the video. Also griselbrand can win you the game straight when it hits the field with no possibility to interact, obliberator requires more from you and the opponent. Look up the deck "Grishoalbrand" and decide for yourself.
@Catequil
@Catequil 6 жыл бұрын
jonttualt he did say that there might be better cards at higher mana costs but at 4 its the best
@Morgothik
@Morgothik 6 жыл бұрын
HAHA I read this comment as he was saying it. I totally agree with you.
@Raven.Bloodrot
@Raven.Bloodrot 6 жыл бұрын
jonttualt it’s extremely powerful in this or a deck that revolves around blood artist.
@metalfreekz13
@metalfreekz13 8 жыл бұрын
You should have Duress and Despise, AT THE VERY LEAST in the sideboard.
@erich4274
@erich4274 8 жыл бұрын
Not to hate or anything, but phrexian obliteraor "budget"?
@Fidofie
@Fidofie 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Desolator, great video and awesome deck :) I am working my way towards the whole playset of obliterators, but meanwhile I use Geralf's messenger instead of obliterator and Desecration demon instead of Archfiend because I don't have that one either. It works really well! The decks I have the most trouble against are the mono-blue or blue+anything control decks and they are quite common at my LGS. My struggle might be due to the fact that I am such a noob still, but what would you recommend as sideboard to control? Go lower on the mana curve in order to faster run them over with creatures, or try and add some control/hand disruption to it?
@paulm2163
@paulm2163 8 жыл бұрын
So.....how does this deck beat burn, storm, lantern, ad nauseum, and the multitude of other decks that don't really care about creatures?
@blindsamhare5954
@blindsamhare5954 7 жыл бұрын
undieing ÷ solemnity = immortal creatures?
@Lightman0359
@Lightman0359 8 жыл бұрын
have you tried black sun's zenith or maybe festering march?, march is a bit slow, but they are both recurring mass removal. March is -1/-1 to the whole board as a sorcery for 3BB or 2B suspend 3, but it suspends itself again for 3 every time it goes off so it wipes 1/1s every 3 turns. BSZ is a better alternative giving everything X -1/-1 counters then shuffling back into the deck so it could be a 1 or 2 of and still maybe get multiple uses, maybe instead of a languish
@xXDani6540Xx
@xXDani6540Xx 7 жыл бұрын
Should I rather put in 2 more of the Archfiends of Depravity and a Master of the Feast or some Geralfs Messenger for Phyrexian Obliterator? ( I play casual, so no sideboard, no restrictions and no banlists) The replacement doesn't need to be dirt cheap, it can cost up to 5€ Would you replace arrogant bloodlord? It seems kinda shitty compared to 2 more squelching leeches Hope you get well soon.
@stonerkebab9498
@stonerkebab9498 8 жыл бұрын
I feel like this very very badly needs some form of hand disruption. You cant do anything about noncreature spells, especially combo decks. Maybe even surgical extraction? Very flavourful deck though
@whitegod9810
@whitegod9810 8 жыл бұрын
It is a deck made for creature decks.
@phillipstimmel4780
@phillipstimmel4780 6 жыл бұрын
Thoughtseize
@jasoniorio4528
@jasoniorio4528 7 жыл бұрын
My own Modern deck is spiritually similar, but even more budget. This kind of deck can definitely hold its own, as mine routinely posts >50% win rates against all budget levels of decks. I have been running it for a few years now, and it is amazingly consistent. And at ~$25, the ROI is sick. Instant (16) 4x Disfigure 4x Funeral Charm 4x Hero's Downfall 4x Victim of Night Creature (8) 4x Desecration Demon 4x Vampire Nighthawk Sorcery (15) 4x Duress 3x Haunting Echoes 4x Mire's Toll 4x Sign in Blood Land (21) 21x Swamp
@Aronia55
@Aronia55 8 жыл бұрын
Budget deck with three 20+ buck cards?. And why did you include Squelching Leeches over Lashwrithe and Korlash, Heir to Blackblade?
@DesolatorMagic
@DesolatorMagic 8 жыл бұрын
+Aronia55 Because it's a budget deck :P
@Aronia55
@Aronia55 8 жыл бұрын
DesolatorMagic Not sure if serious, both are cheap cards.
@nathanielheidemann3112
@nathanielheidemann3112 6 жыл бұрын
boy for modern this is dirt cheap
@keatonkuuuun
@keatonkuuuun 8 жыл бұрын
I think lashwrithe might be a little better than squelching leeches. Same casting cost, but 4 generic so you can cast it without reliance of black, and if they kill the germ token you can still equip it to make another creature bigger. Being an artifact might make it a small downside but creature removal is just as high if not higher.
@keatonkuuuun
@keatonkuuuun 8 жыл бұрын
+Stoner Kebab I'm giving upsides to the card in general. I've had times where my nykthos wouldn't be enough without just tapping for colorless.
@pjr-asian-art-songs
@pjr-asian-art-songs 8 жыл бұрын
You could consider "Darkness" as a sideboard strategy against merfolk and/or affinity if you can't deal with their threats quickly enough. It's basically the black "fog". You could include Damnation in severe instances; although I realise it isn't budget. Disowned Ancestor (early blocker)Thoughtseize / Inquisition of Kozilek / Duress (for early hand disruption)Surgical Extraction / Extirpate (exile from graveyard, hand and library)Shadow Alley Denizen (fear) Are other sideboard options.
@TheAndromedaBlade
@TheAndromedaBlade 7 жыл бұрын
Question: Do you put your decks up on tappedout? (i'm sure this has been asked before, but i don't really want to wade through the cess pool that is KZbin's comment section).
@aldinlewis5579
@aldinlewis5579 8 жыл бұрын
Honestly if your deck is having trouble with decks that win turn 4 or 5 your deck is unsuitable for modern. Looking at your deck list I think you aren't stifling your opponents plans enough, you need cards like thoughtseize, duress, or despise to slow down your opponent. ultimately there are just a ton of cards in your deck that I wouldn't even play in standard.
@uswilkibr
@uswilkibr 7 жыл бұрын
This inspired me to make a similar, more budget deck that has been fun, thanks for the idea! I play Vampire Nighthawks, Gifted Aetherborn, Abyssal Persecutor (generally he's easy to kill off when you need to), and Lashwrithes in my version (plus the Gatekeepers) and mutilate over languish. It's awesome to attach a lashwrithe to my vampire nighthawk, attack for 6+ lifelink in the air, then mutilate their board away while keeping my giant nighthawk. I also prefer victim of night over go for the throat considering affinity is still a thing now and then (more so than zombies, werewolves, and vampires I'd say). I even put in Inquisition of Kozilek now that they are more budget. I do think the sideboard ought to be a place for things that deal with combo decks and such though- memoricide, infinite obliteration, tormod's crypt, extirpate; whatever your meta looks like.
@schtendo4464
@schtendo4464 7 жыл бұрын
I would find a way to get Gary in here. You know, the Mono black devotion common that was overpowered in theros block constructed?
@mikejones3865
@mikejones3865 8 жыл бұрын
Love seeing some strong mono black decks, wish I had this to play with if I still played.
@100thfail
@100thfail 6 жыл бұрын
This seems like a deck I could use. I've only got one question. Can it win against Slivers? I know it's an anticreature deck, but I've only seen a Sliver deck been beat once and even then it took two people and a bad hand.
@calebsutherland9207
@calebsutherland9207 8 жыл бұрын
I feel like geralf's messenger would be a great addition along with gray merchant of asphodel and nykthos, shrine to nyx
@davidc4983
@davidc4983 8 жыл бұрын
love the channel. I was wondering if you could build something around the card dark impostor. I feel like there's something wonderful here, but if so it's above my skill level
@agentkhaine2204
@agentkhaine2204 8 жыл бұрын
Approved. I'm a mono-black fanatic, and I'm on a quest to acquire Phyrexian Obliterators anyway.
@ackerizzle
@ackerizzle 8 жыл бұрын
have you considered grey merchant for this deck, Its pretty nutty with the oblitorator, and also everything else
@SuperNorstShow
@SuperNorstShow 6 жыл бұрын
I am running Mono Black at my modern FNM. It is my favorite deck. Full playsets of inquisition of kozilak and thoughtseize. I like Bile Blight and Geths Verdict for my removal. My big hitting creatures are Geralfs Messanger, Phyrexian Obliterator, and Gray Merchant of Asphodel.
@RoxyGotMoxy.
@RoxyGotMoxy. 8 жыл бұрын
So no malicious affliction, smallpox, tragic slip, geralfs messenger, VAMPIRE NIGHTHAWK, gray merchant of asphodel, spawnwrithe, khorlash heir to blackblade, bloodghast, grave crawler, blood artist, inquisition of kozilek, thoughtsieze, tombstalker, hell even something like Vault Skirge would be better than arrogant bloodlord. Smh.
@wwiizzaarrdd808
@wwiizzaarrdd808 6 жыл бұрын
Lol he literally suggests Gerald's messagnger
@htwooyukinari2652
@htwooyukinari2652 4 жыл бұрын
spawnwrithe is green smh
@kudosbear02
@kudosbear02 8 жыл бұрын
may I be the first to say. the font usage for the deck title is very appropriate lol. Also this x mage thing, are there enough other people playing? i invest a large amount of my time with experimental decks and I like the idea of testing them for free. great vids and obviously I am a subscriber.
@jbrake09
@jbrake09 8 жыл бұрын
desecration demon might be a good fit since they're having to sac creatures all the time. 6/6 flyer for 4cmc that forces them to either tap down the last of their creatures and build yours, or eat 6 to the face. what's not to love? also 1-2x liliana of the dark realms seems almost like a must. Great shell nonetheless
@noahbandl1306
@noahbandl1306 8 жыл бұрын
A lot of Devo to black in this deck. I'm assuming you've considered Gray Merchant of Asphodel? A one of included might be a nice additional finisher. Also, would be putting in dismembers be more effective instead of the go for the throats? Kills everything in the format and isn't at the mercy of affinity (kinda costs less too).
@DesolatorMagic
@DesolatorMagic 8 жыл бұрын
+Noah Bandl Devotion is one of my favorite mechanics but it's one of those "if you're already winning, win more" cards. If they let you cast out 2-3 creatures onto the battlefield, you're already going to win. Also dismember is a reeeeally awful card. It costs 3 instead of 2 of risks your life total and then can't kill really, really large creatures, which are all this deck is normally afraid of. Dismember is a kill spell for non-black decks and that's about it.
@noahbandl1306
@noahbandl1306 8 жыл бұрын
+DesolatorMagic Ahhh yea I see what you mean, with both points, really. Why spend mana and lose life when you can just do the same thing (aside from get around indestructible which there is none of in the current meta so disregard that) for less mana and no life loss! :D The benefits about playing in black, eh xD
@DesolatorMagic
@DesolatorMagic 8 жыл бұрын
+Noah Bandl Is that post an April Fools joke or something? Planning against the current meta? The meta that's going to be drastically altered on April 8th since it's some pretend, inaccurate nonsense right now because of Eldrazi? And you're trying to explain why payinf 3 mana to blow up a fun-sized creature is better than spending 2 mana to destroy anything without indestructible? WHAT? You're one day early for a stupid joke post, bro.
@viniciuschaves9736
@viniciuschaves9736 8 жыл бұрын
So your beholder deck is not viable? I liked it very much and was thinking of building my version of it...
@DesolatorMagic
@DesolatorMagic 8 жыл бұрын
+Vinícius Chaves It will shred most tier 1 decks that are gimmicky single purpose combo decks like infect and affinity but it won't beat zoo or jund or merfolk or elves because they spam spells too quickly.
@vincesalas5486
@vincesalas5486 8 жыл бұрын
Hey Desaltor. Thank younfor this. I have a mono black control build i have been strggling with for a while. It is a spell heavy deck. And i need to replace some things with more creatures. I run 12 creatures in the deck right now total. And you have shown me some great options to swap in for some of my spells. So again thank you. And don't listen to the haters in the comments. They are probably net deckers.
@vincesalas5486
@vincesalas5486 8 жыл бұрын
+Jeremy Eppley I sppreciste your concern. I do already run a full play set of small pox in this deck. my issue with what i have is strictly on the creature side. Need more 2 for 1 hitters. I just feel some of the creatures he shared are better than some in my current build.
@DesolatorMagic
@DesolatorMagic 8 жыл бұрын
+Jeremy Eppley This is a great example of why, if you know absolutely nothing about MTG or "good decks" you should not go around assessing other people's decks. I'm leaving this comment here as an example of just how clueless some people are. Smallpox btw is a garbage card for this deck.
@vincesalas5486
@vincesalas5486 8 жыл бұрын
+DesolatorMagic Just want to say. I ove your videos. and regardless of what anyone else says you gave me some great options for my mono black deck that i was unaware of. I just started playing again about 2 years ago. I can share my build for suggestions. But i think some of the options younshare would work well.
@destefy7394
@destefy7394 8 жыл бұрын
how does this deck compare to your mono-black "Surprise"?
@kshockley68
@kshockley68 8 жыл бұрын
This deck would run over $180 on TCG Player now....I guess that's budget for Modern?
@tempestandacomputer6951
@tempestandacomputer6951 8 жыл бұрын
Jund goes way beyond that.
@DDPMonster
@DDPMonster 8 жыл бұрын
Lashwrithe is strictly better than Squelching Leaches. It is a 4 mana equipment with Living Weapon, which means Lashwrithe enters the battlefield equiped to a 0/0 germ. It gives the equipped creature +1/+1 for each swamp you control. I SO highly recommend this card.
@DDPMonster
@DDPMonster 8 жыл бұрын
True, however it gets value after it dies where korlash doesn't. I like it better, call me crazy, but a phyrexian obliterator with lashwrithe is better than korlash.
@ajparker7575
@ajparker7575 8 жыл бұрын
What about a black blue with mill/self mill & draw cards, creatures that can be played or retrieved from the graveyard (maybe some spells that can be exile played from the graveyard) and 4 call from the grave and 4 necromantic summons? If you have enough enemy mill card in this deck, you can literally use their best cards against them (creature cards anyways, not going to win any awards against near pure spell decks).
@Lischofph36rd0r
@Lischofph36rd0r 8 жыл бұрын
Have you considered a Mikaeus the unhallowed? It is kinda manawise expensive, but it gives all of your non-humans undying and +1/+1 for extra fun, and it is a 5/5 so it won't die to a lot of your boardwipes
@DesolatorMagic
@DesolatorMagic 8 жыл бұрын
+Lischofph36rd0r Holy balls that's an insane card!
@Lischofph36rd0r
@Lischofph36rd0r 8 жыл бұрын
+DesolatorMagic It is glorious, kinda pricy, but not quite as pricy as obliterator
@tapfor2mana240
@tapfor2mana240 7 жыл бұрын
Instead of squelching leeches, could you put in nightmare? He is pretty much the same thing but cost 2 more and has flying.
@starmorpheus
@starmorpheus 6 жыл бұрын
Your SB is very lackluster. what do you do against graveyard decks? , combo decks like ad nauseam and storm? How about control decks that don't even run creatures and just counter and bounce your permanents?. This looks like the deck a 3 month old player would make, come on. Edit: *Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth* says "In addition to its other types" so I think you're confusing it's ability for a *Blood Moon* effect
@nimrodkeren783
@nimrodkeren783 5 жыл бұрын
totally agree, also, Desolator, you said opening 3 Urborgs is bad, they can still tap for black, you know that right?
@sageforce6363
@sageforce6363 5 жыл бұрын
@@nimrodkeren783 legendary rule
@nimrodkeren783
@nimrodkeren783 5 жыл бұрын
@@sageforce6363 ah yes... right... *facepalm*
@melakiesimrak2758
@melakiesimrak2758 8 жыл бұрын
Imagine if Killing Wave had Delve.
@Volvary
@Volvary 8 жыл бұрын
Let me just puke.
@TM-oe5mi
@TM-oe5mi 8 жыл бұрын
+Volvary same
@yutsumon
@yutsumon 6 жыл бұрын
That be amazing
@DementedDoom
@DementedDoom 6 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of my "biggest blackest deck" that I lost mid-flight, as it rolled out of my bag under my seat without me noticing. It had 4 Korlash heir to black blade 4 squelching leeches And 4 lashwrithes. And it actually had a use for Liliana of the dark realms, fetching those swamps constantly (first deck I went entirely full art on) It had a use for corrupt, and drain life (which I believe took it out of modern) The problem though, is that it made everything cost 4 Mana, and that is too damn high.
@PugLoverSweg
@PugLoverSweg 8 жыл бұрын
Could you give suggestions and try to make it under 20 dollars, it is my first deck Creatures: 13 2x Liege of Tangle G 3x Desecration Demon B 2x Elvish Mystic G 3x Reaper from the Abyss G 3x Siege Behemoth B Instants: 10 3x Doom Blade B 2x Murderous Cut B 2x Overwhelming Stampede G 2x Feed the Clan G Sorceries: 7 2x Diabolic Tutor B 3x Cultivate G 3x Rampant Growth G Enchantments: 4 2x Market Festival 1x Whip of Erebos 1x Bow of Nylea Lands: 24 12x Forests G 12x Swamp B Planeswalkers: 2 1x Garruk, Apex Predator GB 1x Vraska, The Unseen GB Green Color= 12 Black Color= 8 Green Cards= 32 Black Cards= 27
@70grade37
@70grade37 3 жыл бұрын
Would be Awesome if you did an Upgrade “Options” to this deck.
@steviesleaze612
@steviesleaze612 8 жыл бұрын
I love this budget deck, But I would splash blue within Black Death. Mana Leak Essence Shatter Negate Disdainful Stroke Gitaxian Probe But I would only put around 12 -14 creatures within the deck. So the Black Death deck budget for me would look like this. Lands. 20 4 x Drown catacomb 4 x Evolving Wilds 7 x Swamps 5 x islands Creatures. 14 4 x Delver of Secrets 4 x Nightveil Spectors 4 x Desecration Demon 2 x Lazav, Dimir Mastermind Spells. 24 4 x Despise 4 x Duress 4 x Doom Blade 4 x Mana Leak 3 x Bile Blight 3 x Ultimate Price 2 x Hero 's Downfall Planeswalker. 2 2 x Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver Sideboard. 3 x Negate 2 x Dispel 1 x Torpor Orb 2 x Murderous Cut 2 x Gurmag Angler 2 x Languish 1 x Hero's Downfall 2 x Perplex (just cause it fun but mean)
@nicholaspalmieri9216
@nicholaspalmieri9216 8 жыл бұрын
I feel like this deck needs a few nihil spellbombs for snapcaster/living end/griselbrand decks, and thoughtseize/duress for control decks. And no love for vampire nighthawk??
@soltero8968
@soltero8968 4 жыл бұрын
i actually have a blue black zombies deck that runs gravecrawler, dread wanderer, and prized amalgam so that as long as the graveyard doesnt get exiled, my creatures keep coming back. i wonder if that deck would stand a chance against this
@TheCanofbread
@TheCanofbread 8 жыл бұрын
why not switch vampire nighthawk for arrogant vampire and Lashwrithe instead of Squelching Leeches?
@ubeentrolled
@ubeentrolled 8 жыл бұрын
im super excited to build this deck but here are the prices as of right now on march 31st (prices don't include the basic lands or sideboard) With all cards listed = $165.86 Removing the Phyrexian obliterators the deck costs = $83.43 Removing the POs, and Urborgs the deck costs = $43.44 These prices are the cheapest available from multiple retailers associated with TCGPLAYER... all cards i included in purchasing price are Heavily played or better quality. $43.44 is not a bad starting price for this deck!
@fiddlewheelx
@fiddlewheelx 8 жыл бұрын
I have 4 of geralf m and 4 bloodghasts, would they work well in this type of build?
@richeastwood44
@richeastwood44 8 жыл бұрын
As an upgrade to the leeches why don't you use korlash. It's way better
@richeastwood44
@richeastwood44 8 жыл бұрын
+Chosen 1 of the nonexistent God true but the graduer ability sort of makes it less of an issue
@DracosDiabolis
@DracosDiabolis 8 жыл бұрын
I like this deck. nice brew. I like my little combo with Urborg, so you can put this in the sideboard if ya want. but the cards, Celestial Dawn + Story Circle + Karma.
@EmporioZuagroast
@EmporioZuagroast 6 жыл бұрын
if you manage to consistently get arena (land from time spiral) out, the obliterator can attack and after combat fight a leftover creature again and force the opponent to sac even more. ;)
@kingofsquats2788
@kingofsquats2788 8 жыл бұрын
YO Obliterator is my #1 favorite card of all time, mad respect
@bloodschuch
@bloodschuch 8 жыл бұрын
nice deck! why no discart? maybe 4 duress to side board .., gy hate too, spellbomb are awesome! I think this deck have to mutch removal in the main, and no need more removal in side Lashwrite is another awesome card
@Hayden-vf1ss
@Hayden-vf1ss 8 жыл бұрын
Where do you buy your cards? Cause a lot of those cards are pretty pricey on tcgplayer, last for I checked Go for the Throat was about $2 for example.
@Hayden-vf1ss
@Hayden-vf1ss 8 жыл бұрын
+Hayden Beissel Also, love the deck. Might recommend Isochron Scepter purely because copying removal onto that is always a fun time and gets your opponent sweating real fast cause they know if they play something big it will get murdered.
@Hayden-vf1ss
@Hayden-vf1ss 8 жыл бұрын
th3on3thatb3atu True, and any deck where you can avoid the need to buy fetch and shock lands is always gonna save some cash. I was just thinking that even though individually the cards aren't very expensive, the price could start to add up if every card (except land) runs 1 to 3 dollars. But maybe I'm just being cheap.
@LegoLynden
@LegoLynden 8 жыл бұрын
While you're playing squelching leeches or whatever, the */* swamp card, you should play the strictly better korlash, heir to blackblade that has regen, and the chance to just get two more swamps on the battlefield if you draw a second copy.
@coreyfisher8014
@coreyfisher8014 8 жыл бұрын
No nighthawks? That's my black staple
@loschain2224
@loschain2224 8 жыл бұрын
sadly there are no enemy check lands. I feel white is necessary for a sideboard Stony silence if you have affinity at your locals. this deck is very flexible. some of the kill spells can be swapped out depending on they player. obliterater I feel is non negotiable. gurmag angler and taciturn immediately leap to mind for alternate creatures. keep in mind that undying and +1 counters conflict so that one guy in your side is not that good to have in my opinion.
@southrim9
@southrim9 8 жыл бұрын
+Chain Plays (Sean Murphy) Enemy check lands were printed in innistrad
@jonahkarafiol2912
@jonahkarafiol2912 8 жыл бұрын
Do you think if I wanted to splash red with 4 Bloodstained Mire 4 Blood Crypt I could run terminates and bolts? What would I take out? Would it make the deck better?
@mazeradaville13
@mazeradaville13 8 жыл бұрын
Take out the enchantment that gives life link. Find a good creature with lifelink like vampire visicopa (if you splash white instead of red) get that. You probably don't need the terminate bolt is always good
@phillipstimmel4780
@phillipstimmel4780 6 жыл бұрын
Nykthos, shrine to nyx would be good for dropping everything in your hand if you have enough devotion on the field
@Ianoxen
@Ianoxen 8 жыл бұрын
Its mono-black, I think it should run hand-control/discard. Thoughtseize and Inquisition are not budget so you can go with Duress instead. You could also run card-draw since black is good with that.
@micahdyer9630
@micahdyer9630 8 жыл бұрын
Sure, let's run discard when Madness is a thing.
@Ianoxen
@Ianoxen 8 жыл бұрын
+Micah Dyer (whomikehidden) Uhmm, Madness is not a thing in modern...
@devilhunterred
@devilhunterred 6 жыл бұрын
What if opponent's deck isn't creature heavy or doesn't rely on creature to win? Burn, UW control, different variation of control, Death Shadow, etc. This deck is pretty much dead paperweight.
@unstopablerob214
@unstopablerob214 5 жыл бұрын
cheapest list i could make with the cards he gives us is 4 Bile Blight 3 Geralf's messenger 4 Nyxathid 4 Go for the Throat 3 Arrogant Bloodlord 4 Languish 2 Archfiend of Depravity 3 Killing Wave 2 Squelching Leeches 4 Eternal Thirst 4 Bloodsoaked champion 23 Swamp 3 Virulent Plague 4 Drown in sorrow 4 Murderous Cut 4 Mutilate
@cowlspear8651
@cowlspear8651 8 жыл бұрын
This is awesome; how much does this cost?
@rodrickplum2989
@rodrickplum2989 8 жыл бұрын
question. I already own 2 kalit as traitor of ghet. would it be reasonable to replace obliterator with them?
@DesolatorMagic
@DesolatorMagic 8 жыл бұрын
Oh definitely. It would be in my top 5 choices for replacements and it's practically as good because it meshes with the deck. He also sometimes doesn't die to languish.
@averenwhite9707
@averenwhite9707 8 жыл бұрын
Phyrexian Obliterator has a huge weakness if you can get something on your opponents side of the field to deal damage to it. Dissension in the Ranks, Inner Struggle, Alpha Brawl, etc. My friend threatened to play his obliterator like it was gonna turn the game in his favor i hit it with an alpha brawl and that was that.
@dorping_Wolf
@dorping_Wolf 8 жыл бұрын
you shoud exchange the "Squelching Leeches" with "Lashwrithe"s you'll drop techneacaly the same creature, but its power stays on the field for others if it dies somehow. then maybe exchange the "Arrogant Bloodlord" with an "Vampire Nighthawk", because he can trade any creature if needed, (and a lifelink flyer iwht the Lashwrithe woud be nice too) maybe add a "Gruul Draz Assassin" a creature which can remove sometimes, so it has to be removed. And i like to play "Geth's Verdict" as removel because... reasons.
@SonicUni1997
@SonicUni1997 4 жыл бұрын
Can I play this deck? I wanna try out a mono Black deck since I love the color black and am a goth.
@rocknmetalultima
@rocknmetalultima 8 жыл бұрын
What about Reaper from the Abyss its 6 mana but its a flier and can give you an extra free kill. Say you wipe them down to two creatures now end of turn Reaper kills another for free and then you use murder or tribute to hunger and you have wiped there board completely now your turn hits and you have two power house creature and what ever little ones you have to finish it.
@mattyd7739
@mattyd7739 8 жыл бұрын
Have you considered a disruption package for your sideboard? Duress and the like to stop combo like storm? If combo is the big problem, why not sideboard against it? In many cases getting a turn 1 discard spell off means the combo player gets delayed by multiple turns. I like how you really attack your local meta. Trying to attack the modern meta in general is super hard right now because of the uncertainty still surrounding the Eldrazi. People are playing lots of linear strategies centered on creature decks, but if Eldrazi goes, that could cause a total shift. I love single color decks in Modern. Cuts out the most egregious part of the cost of the format.
@DesolatorMagic
@DesolatorMagic 8 жыл бұрын
+MattyD That's not a bad idea either if you're getting beat by a combo or the #1 bane of this deck, OP-as-hell artifacts.
@mattyd7739
@mattyd7739 8 жыл бұрын
What about Grasp of Darkness over Go for the Throat? Does it hit everything you want? Affinity players hate it when the opponent has main deck Drown in Sorrow or Flaying Tendrils. Often a -2/-2 is enough to get rid of all their creatures or force them to sacrifice them to move counters around. It's bad against the Eldrazi, so it only belongs in the side, but I think Smother might be a good one to consider. I guess it all depends on the local meta. I'm not planning on playing in a competitive GP, Open, 5K or whatever any time soon.
@mattyd7739
@mattyd7739 8 жыл бұрын
Infinite Obliteration would be good against a known Creature Combo. Like Abzan life gain combo naming Melira, Sylvok Outcast
@AmericanAmarok
@AmericanAmarok 8 жыл бұрын
Sideboard artifact hate. Splashing green for some artifact/enchantment hate would be a good idea. I think you have a rough Mach up to tron.
@cimchainman7591
@cimchainman7591 8 жыл бұрын
Could you make a video about what things you have to think of when you make a Tricolored deck? :)
@jonathanwiner2415
@jonathanwiner2415 8 жыл бұрын
I love the deck. Will you update after SOI or no?
@DesolatorMagic
@DesolatorMagic 8 жыл бұрын
+Jonathan Winer I didn't check if anything in SOI was better but black is kinda Innistrad's thing so maybe.
@jonathanwiner2415
@jonathanwiner2415 8 жыл бұрын
+DesolatorMagic Soi itself isn't very good in the black cards but it might be an ok block. Asylum Visitor might be included as a 1 or 2 of, cheaper, less effective version of bob that sometimes works. Mainly for late game though
@drahydra
@drahydra 8 жыл бұрын
Why not Grey Merchant of Asphodel instead of Archfiend of Depravity? It's five mana, and usually by the time you get there, the triggered ability will just kill your opponent right there.
@DesolatorMagic
@DesolatorMagic 8 жыл бұрын
+drahydra I don't like "if you're already going to win, win even more" cards, which describes a lot of devotion cards. If you had enough devotion on the field for it to be good, you'd have won anyway.
@josephemilio
@josephemilio 8 жыл бұрын
+DesolatorMagic So rather than play a card that can win the game on the spot you'd rather run a 5 drop that has no immediate effect to the board and requires it to not only survive the rest of your turn, but your opponents entire turn before it's effect might pay off? That seems just awful. And how is Grey Merchant "win more?" The whole point of the game is to win, so why not do it efficiently? Dropping a turn 5 Archfiend of Depravity will rarely put you in a winning spot as compared to a card that has the potential for huge life swings. Turn 2 removal, turn 3 kicked Gatekeeper, turn 4 Obliterator, turn 5 Merchant. I'd rather be in a spot where my opponent needed to react to my plays faster than "oh shit, they just played a 5/4 that gives me a turn and a half to respond to, and I get to draw a potential on my turn. Better hurry up."
@Loki-5663
@Loki-5663 8 жыл бұрын
does indestructible get over archfiend's effect?
@matthewquinn8465
@matthewquinn8465 8 жыл бұрын
Victim of Night hits more creatures than Go for the Throat. Two creatures you missed; Bloodghast & Demigod of Revenge
@ashers9680
@ashers9680 7 жыл бұрын
I'd go down to 3 Urborgs, because once you have one, it's normally a dead draw.
@zack875
@zack875 8 жыл бұрын
Surprised you didn't run storm and combo hate: Phyrexian Invoker, Pithing Needle, etc. to shut down combination decks.
@TheCardq
@TheCardq 7 жыл бұрын
With so many swamps, maybe add nightmare, 6 mana sure, but it comes in as a 6/6 flyer at least.
@kintoexile
@kintoexile 8 жыл бұрын
so this is only good against midrange creature decks, witch aren't popular in modern....
@DesolatorMagic
@DesolatorMagic 8 жыл бұрын
+kintoexile Name 3 decks in Modern that are actually good that can survive having every single one of their creatures blown up within 1/2 turn.
@kintoexile
@kintoexile 8 жыл бұрын
+DesolatorMagic tron affinity living end burn storm eldrazi reanimator infect zombies control jund and any collected company shell.
@kintoexile
@kintoexile 8 жыл бұрын
+DesolatorMagic www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/modern#online actually any of these to be more specific
@VanXodus
@VanXodus 8 жыл бұрын
Might consider hunted horror? A 2 black mana 7/7 with trample with backdrop 2 3/3 pro black centaurs in an opponents control (which you're going to kill anyway)
@VanXodus
@VanXodus 8 жыл бұрын
+Logan ‘Cynical Bastard’ Ace - fair enough but there is languish, killing wave, archfiend of depravity, gatekeeper of malakir. These don't target so it's easy enough to kill them.
@francescomariavalenti910
@francescomariavalenti910 8 жыл бұрын
what about vampire nighthawk? I think it's a very good card!
@off-meta9962
@off-meta9962 8 жыл бұрын
suggestion Try out Leashwrithe instead of Squelching leeches ... it remains on the battlefield after beeing an Squelching leeches in the first places beeing a potential pump for your creatures.
@pegasus2682
@pegasus2682 8 жыл бұрын
flaying tendrils, They can stop zombie and grave recursion, and also indestructable and creature spam
@nathanweegee1212
@nathanweegee1212 8 жыл бұрын
I recommend throwing in some Dash Hopes into your sideboard for this deck.
@DesolatorMagic
@DesolatorMagic 8 жыл бұрын
+nathan parkhurst That's definitely a good idea and may save you in the case of someone not playing a creature-heavy deck.
@steventinker3958
@steventinker3958 8 жыл бұрын
None of these cards are hard to find lol where are you located?
@scatlauncher
@scatlauncher 8 жыл бұрын
I'd recommend you throw in at least 2 Blood Artists. They'd turn languish into an easy wincon
@ColeTrainStudio
@ColeTrainStudio 8 жыл бұрын
The Rouge Deckbuilder has a decent argument for why this deck won't work with the current rotation of modern (OGW). Even if you do manage to get a nice sweep of aggro monsters, there's still a good chance for counter spells, and by turn three and four most eldrazi/aggro decks will already either have won, or will have their win condition on the field, out of range of much of the removal in this deck. In short, FUCK ELDRAZI. Totes a fun deck though. Black is the bomb.
@DesolatorMagic
@DesolatorMagic 8 жыл бұрын
+CJ How the hell did he make a video about my deck in the last 15 minutes? Anyway, his theory vs me playing this a ton of Xmage and me saying it works certainly suggests that it works. My win ratio is higher than any deck I've ever seen other than the crimes against modern like storm, living end, lantern, etc.
@ColeTrainStudio
@ColeTrainStudio 8 жыл бұрын
DesolatorMagic He didn't make a video about it, it he mentioned that black/kill decks wouldn't really work. But that's his theory.
@AmericanAmarok
@AmericanAmarok 8 жыл бұрын
+DesolatorMagic is your meta mainly mid range because this deck seems like it's good against mid range but looses to agro
@mattyd7739
@mattyd7739 8 жыл бұрын
+CJ Basically if the Eldrazi player gets the type of hand that allows for a turn 2 Thought-Knot Seer, this deck might spend the entire gaming killing things a turn too late. If they take a risky hand or mulligan too aggressively, this deck would punish them. I think that's a pretty good match up against the best deck in the format. Though I think something like Thoughtseize would solve the issue. Instead of putting money into Obliterators, I think disruption like Thoughtsieze and Inquisition would be better long term investments.
@earthbound1231
@earthbound1231 6 жыл бұрын
phyrexian crusader is a sweet card to add and with eternal thirst it becomes a big problem
@booglemcdoogle6157
@booglemcdoogle6157 8 жыл бұрын
Would master of the feast go well with BFZ ob nixilus ult do well?
@DesolatorMagic
@DesolatorMagic 8 жыл бұрын
+Bennett Vana Master of the Feast is INSAAAAAAAAAAAAANE aggro but I pulled it because of Nyxathid :(
@booglemcdoogle6157
@booglemcdoogle6157 8 жыл бұрын
Yea but would a whole rogue deck centered around forcing your opponent to draw and chocking them out with forced discard and painful draws be good?
@Asmodeus555
@Asmodeus555 8 жыл бұрын
Did you say this deck had nykthos? It should have nykthos! Your devotion is going to be very high. And some cards draw to refill your hand so you can drop everything again.
@fairygoodmuller8065
@fairygoodmuller8065 8 жыл бұрын
it doesn't need it. further, it's just another target for land destruction/merfolk shenanigans
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